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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Bye Dirk Kuyt!

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post May 18 2012, 11:13 AM

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hi, new here...
just wanna to wish YNWA fo KD...
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post May 18 2012, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 18 2012, 11:04 AM)
apparently too clever for u.
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You? LMFAO. You can't even string a proper argument.

That's right, you are the Kenny fanboy who chants "I'll follow My King to whatever end."

Now, it's starting to make sense to me.
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post May 18 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 18 2012, 10:32 AM)
Gasping for air? We have so many managers who are more qualified and reputable than Martinez available at the moment.

Rafa Benitez, Capello, Hiddink just to name a few.

Not happy with the selection of Martinez doesn't mean we are regretting our stand to replace Kenny Dalglish.

Capische? You clearly still bitter about the decision to remove KK and trying to vent your little childish frustation on non KD supporters.
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Do you honestly think, Capello an Hiddink would want to manage Liverpool? Fantasy football?
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post May 18 2012, 11:30 AM

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The best part is owners don't have to pay any compensation to KD bcoz he told them to use the money to buy new players... LEGEND!
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post May 18 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 18 2012, 11:16 AM)
You? LMFAO. You can't even string a proper argument.

That's right, you are the Kenny fanboy who chants "I'll follow My King to whatever end."

Now, it's starting to make sense to me.
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waste my time arguing wif you? laugh.gif
Got better things to do. Sry.
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QUOTE(all blacks @ May 18 2012, 11:30 AM)
The best part is owners don't have to pay any compensation to KD bcoz he told them to use the money to buy new players... LEGEND!
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Ya. That's class act from King Kenny! rclxms.gif

But I'm not surprise though. smile.gif
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post May 18 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(all blacks @ May 18 2012, 11:30 AM)
The best part is owners don't have to pay any compensation to KD bcoz he told them to use the money to buy new players... LEGEND!
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EPIC
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post May 18 2012, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(weichieh007 @ May 18 2012, 11:28 AM)
Do you honestly think, Capello an Hiddink would want to manage Liverpool? Fantasy football?
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why not? just becos liverpool dunt have ucl spot?
they are brought to make liverpool achieve tat... if we already hav ucl spot then KD will still be here
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post May 18 2012, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(Adryan @ May 18 2012, 02:32 AM)
@MarkMoraghan
So Kenny rejected severance payment saying spend it on players Class act
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Stan Collymore tweeted the same thing. No confirmed sources yet but it's all over the forums. I won't be surprised if it's true. Kenny is a class act and the only blemish in the media seems to be how he handled the Suarez-Evra affair. Maybe he was a little naive but Kenny has always been one of us, not a snooty executive in a suit and tie. He's always in his trainers jumping with joy when we score, and burying his head in his hands when we miss, just like us.

QUOTE(Burningsunz @ May 18 2012, 04:24 AM)
Former Liverpool star Gary McAllister has told talkSPORT that he doubts if Roberto Martinez would be able to attract the players the club need to get back into the top four.
Like I said earlier, Gary Mac for no.2!

QUOTE(Adryan @ May 18 2012, 05:14 AM)
I personally like Martinez as a man and as a manager because he sets his team to play football but I don't know if he'll be the ideal candidate.


Is Martinez a step up from Kenny? I don't think so. He's younger but that's about it isn't it? He likes attacking football but that's what Kenny got us playing almost immediately after taking over. Missed chances, goalposts, get tiring mentioning and hearing this over and over isn't it? Still, facts are facts. If they do appoint Martinez, then I just have to question the sacking of Kenny.


QUOTE(Adryan @ May 18 2012, 05:14 AM)
Kenneth Dalglish ‏@kennethdalglish

Overwhelmed by support of the fans. Always been special but even more so now. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. YNWA and I never have.
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Nice. Against Swansea, the travelling Kop were still chanting, "Dalglish". Good to know that by and large, we embodied the spirit of YNWA and Kenny felt appreciated. I'd have hated for him to have felt discarded after having given so much.
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post May 18 2012, 12:00 PM

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I rather lose n be relegated AS LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB than being the champion of europe as a corporation.
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post May 18 2012, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 18 2012, 12:00 PM)
I rather lose n be relegated AS LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB than being the champion of europe as a corporation.
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well...
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post May 18 2012, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 18 2012, 01:00 PM)
I rather lose n be relegated AS LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB than being the champion of europe as a corporation.
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Ahh.

But not many shares those sentiments.

You know, those called for..
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post May 18 2012, 12:11 PM

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What did Rafa win before Valencia ? What did Villa Boas win before Porto ? How about Klopp or Conte before becoming head coaches for Dortmund and Juventus respectively? Who was Shankly before he ended up at Liverpool ?

Sometimes, to break the cycle - you have to do the unexpected. You have to go for the long shot and take the risk. I've no idea if Martinez will be that man, as there are no guarantees in football. But he's young, modern and energetic. If he or any other manager for that matter, can inject those characteristics into the team then we stand a chance to surge forward.

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 18 2012, 12:00 PM)
I rather lose n be relegated AS LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB than being the champion of europe as a corporation.
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Let's gain some perspective la. Modern day football is a results based industry. It's up to the management team and the boardroom to get results on the pitch and deal with the day to day business operations of increasing revenue. It's a reality we all have to accept. Moores and Parry were guilty of being short-sighted, not wanting the club to be sold to non-Liverpool fans, and not wanting to "sell our souls" to corporations. They wanted to keep the club local. This is all well and good except for the fact that everyone else has already to some extent sacrificed identity for profit. A necessary evil in today's game.

We are fans however and we can afford to be sentimental. We don't make the business decisions. Our primary duty is to support the club through thick and thin and if we do contribute to the business, we do so via memorabilia and merchandise. Wanting success and trophies doesn't have to come at the expense of sentiment. We can still show a quiet appreciation to one of our own who has tried and failed. We can still talk about the past and reminisce because it reminds us who were are as LFC, the past glories and legendary stories. If we didn't, would our expectations be so high? Would there be pressure on us each season to contest for Europe? The classic mistake made by those accusing us of living in the past is assuming that we are all good with being former champions living in past glory. Wrong. We appreciate the past which makes us realise how precious victories are and we don't take it for granted having fallen from grace. It's why we savour even small moments like a League Cup victory. We want the Premiership but it doesn't mean we should take anything else that comes along the way for granted, arrogantly dismissing it as not good enough for us. We can be ambitious and humble at the same time.

I would not want to see us relegated but I would also never want us to lose our soul. The former is up to the manager and the owners. As for the latter, it is the duty of the fans to ensure that we never lose our identity and we continue to remind those after us of our traditions, history and culture. Without any of that, we are no different from anyone else.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 18 2012, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 18 2012, 12:00 PM)
I rather lose n be relegated AS LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB than being the champion of europe as a corporation.
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post May 18 2012, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 18 2012, 12:13 PM)
Let's gain some perspective la. Modern day football is a results based industry. It's up to the management team and the boardroom to get results on the pitch and deal with the day to day business operations of increasing revenue. It's a reality we all have to accept. Moores and Parry were guilty of being short-sighted, not wanting the club to be sold to non-Liverpool fans, and not wanting to "sell our souls" to corporations. They wanted to keep the club local. This is all well and good except for the fact that everyone else has already to some extend sacrificed identity for profit. A necessary evil in today's game.

We are fans however and we can afford to be sentimental. We don't make the business decisions. Our primary duty is to support the club through thick and thin and if we do contribute to the business, we do so via memorabilia and merchandise. Wanting success and trophies doesn't have to come at the expense of sentiment. We can still show a quiet appreciation to one of our own who has tried and failed. We can still talk about the past and reminisce because it reminds us who were are as LFC, the past glories and legendary stories. If we didn't, would our expectations be so high? Would there be pressure on us each season to contest for Europe? The classic mistake between those accusing us of living in the past is assuming that we are all good with being former champions living in past glory. Wrong. We appreciate the past means we realise how precious victory is and we don't take it for granted having fallen from grace. It's why we savour even small moments like a League Cup victory. We want the Premiership but it doesn't mean we should take anything else that comes along the way for granted, arrogantly dismissing it as not good enough for us. We can be ambitious and humble at the same time. 

I would not want to see us relegated but I would also never want us to lose our soul. The former is up to the manager and the owners. As for the latter, it is the duty of the fans to ensure that we never lose our identity and we continue to remind those after us of our traditions, history and culture. Without any of that, we are no different from anyone else.
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Thats exactly wut my post means.
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post May 18 2012, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 18 2012, 12:00 PM)
I rather lose n be relegated AS LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB than being the champion of europe as a corporation.
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Good luck supporting Everton then laugh.gif
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oh wait, they finished above us shocking.gif
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post May 18 2012, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 18 2012, 12:17 PM)
Thats exactly wut my post means.
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Do reread Duke's post, you know the last paragraph.
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post May 18 2012, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ May 18 2012, 12:21 PM)
Do reread Duke's post, you know the last paragraph.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ May 18 2012, 12:20 PM)
Good luck supporting Everton then  laugh.gif
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U Manchester City or Real Madrid supporter?

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Actually I do kinda follow Manchester City hmm.gif

As for the reading of Duke's posts, the both of us have agreed to disagree quite a number of times, but I respect his views and I do hope the feeling's mutual.

This post has been edited by madmoz: May 18 2012, 12:29 PM

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