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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Bye Dirk Kuyt!

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post May 21 2012, 03:53 PM

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Dammit, I really do miss KD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kko3Sd-lu0...9IvU9eLkfNXWUmU

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@xmonkzRafa,

Before Kenny was fired, I asked you a question about who Liverpool needs to compete in the top 4 next season and you replied that you didn't want to talk about that as we had staff in charge at LFC.

Now that we don't have staff and many of us are hoping that you will be the new boss; can I ask you that question again?

Who do you think Liverpool need to bring in to compete in the league? Or do you think we just need a different mentality?

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Hello, still I can't answer sorry.


Rafa has high respect for K Dalglish. Never at all offer any attempt to cast a shadow over Dalglish spell. Still as stubborn Spanish dude whistling.gif cool2.gif


We are in the need to be be informed of the situation at lfc (anxious). Nothing we can do but wait.


While the tide from several forums may indicate the response towards wanting our ex gaffer, I think to be fair, FSG may want to practice impartially on their candidates.

Part of me would like to see the return of bentitez, part of me accepts the possibility it can be someone else. My only wish whoever it is, if its the someone else, won't fail in the pressure department or the need to be spell bound to fergie's mind games aka roy the englund manager.

That's all cool2.gif

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amirbashah
post May 21 2012, 06:43 PM

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I guess Martinez will be getting the job. Hope it's not true sad.gif
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QUOTE(amirbashah @ May 21 2012, 06:43 PM)
I guess Martinez will be getting the job. Hope it's not true sad.gif
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all the interview will be held this week, so nothing to sure yet..just have to wait and see

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post May 21 2012, 06:55 PM

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my choice on order of preference

1) Mourinho (vast experienve)
2) Capello ( a no nonsense man )
3) AVB ( youth and dare to try youngster )
4) D Matteo ( master tactician and youth )

abt Rafa, NO Way, he is a spent force, maybe he will be better as a sports writer


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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ May 21 2012, 06:46 PM)
all the interview will be held this week, so nothing to sure yet..just have to wait and see
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I know, but most of the candidates have rejected the offer so we only have Martinez, AVB and Rafa.

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ May 21 2012, 02:11 PM)
If you look all the way to the top I guess H&G is responsible for the Barry/Alonso saga for not providing Rafa with sufficient funds. To be fair, since H&G took over Rafa hasn't really been provided with decent funds apart from the signings of Torres, Mascherano and Keane but he was sold back almost immediately to Spurs. We were lacking depth in so many departments, we have no proven striker apart from Torres, Kuyt was played as a winger, N'gog isn't good enough to lead the line for Liverpool. But in all honesty, I feel he could have chose some other players to be offloaded rather than Alonso.

Personally I agree with Rafa's statement. Offense win games but Defense win titles. Yes you have to score to win but more often than not you will end up losing points due to poor defenses (look at Arsenal) hence balance is important. He said wingers are important, yes if you view them as the source of creativity in the final 3rd but look at the wingers we had Kuyt (hardworking but not creative), Riera (only decent), Babel (wants a more central role), Benayoun (lacks pace, more of a free role player). Maybe not Rafa's fault as I remember reading an article where he stated he wanted to buy some attacking flair players (forgot who) but wasn't provided with the funds.
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Defence and offence of Rafael Benitez.

The best defenders in our squad, Agger and Skrtel.
The best defensive midfielders in our squad, Mascherano and Lucas.
Look at the quality of these players and that will tell you what exactly Rafa was trying to build.

Attacking, Rafa had to rely on Torres and Gerrard, with players like Kuyt, Riera, Babel and Benayoun as support.
Didn't he build the attacking force?
There were few big names he tried to sign, David Silva, Juan Mata, David Villa etc.
Without sufficient funds, there is no way to sign these players.
And you know which clubs these players eventually joined.

Rafa didn't have the chance to finish his jigsaw puzzle.

P/S Rafa built his foundation on defence. Yes, I think he did.


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QUOTE(digilife @ May 21 2012, 06:55 PM)
my choice on order of preference

1) Mourinho (vast experienve)
2) Capello   ( a no nonsense man )
3) AVB   ( youth and dare to try youngster )
4) D Matteo ( master tactician and youth )

abt Rafa, NO Way, he is a spent force, maybe he will be better as a sports writer
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Bad fortune teller.

This is the list of Liverpool FC records, go look at record record transfer fees paid and received.

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post May 21 2012, 07:09 PM

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But Rafa should not have sold Alonso, we went downhill after selling the Maestro.
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QUOTE(amirbashah @ May 21 2012, 06:57 PM)
I know, but most of the candidates have rejected the offer so we only have Martinez, AVB and Rafa.
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i think only martinez and avb is in the list..FSG doesnt want rafa because he know that rafa will have fans backing and if they sack rafa then everyone will hate FSG. Martinez now seems to have villa in his mind, so now left AVB, thats why he is telling the world he is not rushing because he knew he is the only one who is suitable because everyone else rejected liverpool
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ May 21 2012, 07:10 PM)
i think only martinez and avb is in the list..FSG doesnt want rafa because he know that rafa will have fans backing and if they sack rafa then everyone will hate FSG. Martinez now seems to have villa in his mind, so now left AVB, thats why he is telling the world he is not rushing because he knew he is the only one who is suitable because everyone else rejected liverpool
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i am fine with AVB, he is young and have FIRE, just like the young SAF smile.gif
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QUOTE(digilife @ May 21 2012, 07:09 PM)
But Rafa should not have sold Alonso, we went downhill after selling the Maestro.
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We went downhill when both Torres and Gerrard lost their form.
We were like Torres-Gerrard team.

P/S
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%93...ool_F.C._season
We still had solid defence in season 2009/10. We were top 3 in terms of defence.
We just couldn't score as many goals as other teams.

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Somebody correctly pointed out to me about this.

if you look at the list of managers that have been confirmed approached,

Matinez (unconfirmed)
Rodgers (rejected FSG)
AVB (approached)
De Boer (rejected FSG)

their play styles are about the same, which favours tactics fluidity and high tempo. They are also Spanish / Barca related, with exception of AVB being an Iberian.

Hence this person said that our DoF is highly possible, could be Txiki (Barca's own DoF) but hasn't been revealed yet.
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QUOTE(digilife @ May 21 2012, 07:12 PM)
i am fine with AVB, he is young and have FIRE, just like the young SAF smile.gif
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AVB is alright, but remember he wanted the job at roma and have no interest in liverpool untl roma hire montella then only he turn his head to liverpool, and since now he know he is the prime candidate he can still tell us he wont be rushed into signing for liverpool. liverpool will just be another source of income to him, when better club came knocking im sure he will turn to them and left us behind
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I do want AVB to get the job. I like him when he was in Porto and had hoped he would manage Liverpool. But he went to Chelsea instead plus King Kenny got the job.
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QUOTE(amirbashah @ May 21 2012, 07:18 PM)
I do want AVB to get the job. I like him when he was in Porto and had hoped he would manage Liverpool. But he went to Chelsea instead plus King Kenny got the job.
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AVB produced produced a treble in one season.
He seems good.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...as'?cc=4716
Does AVB have ego like Mourinho? blink.gif
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Yes he does. apparently his ego is as big, if not worse than Mourinho's.
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Makes me wonder,if its true FSG is trying to hire a young manager who favours fluidity, passing, high tempo football then where would Carroll stand?

I can't think of any team emplying this type of football and uses a tall target man such as Carroll that is meant for direct long ball style.

Just wondering because I can't see Carroll fitting into that system. Carroll is more of a power type target man unlike perhaps Crouch or Berbatov who are both very skilled and have finesse for their height. If its gonna be AVB, just look at Drogba and Lukaku, I can imagine whats probably gonna happen to Carroll

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 21 2012, 07:23 PM)
AVB produced produced a treble in one season.
He seems good.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...as'?cc=4716
Does AVB have ego like Mourinho?  blink.gif
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same country man, same taste ,

lets have AVB, the younger Mourinho , also "graduated" from Porto
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ May 21 2012, 07:14 PM)
Somebody correctly pointed out to me about this.

if you look at the list of managers that have been confirmed approached,

Matinez (unconfirmed)
Rodgers (rejected FSG)
AVB (approached)
De Boer (rejected FSG)

their play styles are about the same, which favours tactics fluidity and high tempo. They are also Spanish / Barca related, with exception of AVB being an Iberian.

Hence this person said that our DoF is highly possible, could be Txiki (Barca's own DoF) but hasn't been revealed yet.
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How did Rodgets is spanish/barca related? shocking.gif
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eh, didn't notice that

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