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post Apr 23 2012, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(smwah @ Apr 24 2012, 12:00 AM)
Some times very hard to judge during the test drive. First there are over hundred ppl already test drive the car, and worst they are not test drive but trying to spoil the car. Come on u dun drive such way if the car belongs to u. Any way u drive violent also will break lar. U can drive a sedan like driving a 4wd or driving like a sport car.
My only concern is the quality itself. For example when a thing is manufactured there will some tolerance or buffer before it breaks down. That why some design are made to compensate any possible damage could happen. Of course the cost of manufacturing will cost more. So there come the cost down factor.
I not saying this car is bad. Just want to understand how well the car is make. A simple continental car or a simple vios, after driving more than 5 years it still going well. But if a simple proton car maybe after 3 years driving many problem appeared. Sometime i dun think is the qc prob, it could be the design and costing side. So conclusion is how is the preve team would be preform. This is very interesting. Specs wise no problem, now will be coming to reliability.
But still very poision to buy.
Lastly design is very subjective, I think those ppl like continental car will like preve. But for those looking for jap or korean modern design, they may complain it. Personally I like it coz the design is simple and classy.
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hey y u bash proton? alot of people will attempt to sabotage the car in show room so blame them. bruce.gif
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 23 2012, 11:02 PM)
hey y u bash proton? alot of people will attempt to sabotage the car in show room so blame them. bruce.gif
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i dont think he's bashing. lol. just his personal opinion
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 23 2012, 11:02 PM)
hey y u bash proton? alot of people will attempt to sabotage the car in show room so blame them. bruce.gif
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No lar, my point is not bashing p1. Is juz difficult to judge the car coz ppl keep banging the car when test drive. Of course is hard to judge the car itself during test drive.
Time will show the true of the car.

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post Apr 23 2012, 11:13 PM

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Test drive review.
Went to view with open mind while same time expecting to worst due to numerous non positive reviews by others.

Design
First off prevee looks bigger in real life than photos. Front looks OK could had been worst looks better in black as the grille will look one piece with rest of bumper fenders and bonnet. Its neater that way.

A pillar to C its streamlined much to the profile of the new Civic which isn't here yet.

The rear is where it gets messy with two layers of break off lines one at the first curve from side panel to rear. Second line is few inches after making the rear too untidy unlike the front. Having the first line is understood to assist air flowing away from the rear lending a hand to reduce air turbulence but the second line is just plain unnecessary.

The rear lamps a matter of taste to buyers even though it doesn't seem to be related to the nose.

Interior
Feels big didn't bring my measuring tape to confirm. Wait a darn minute the dash even the aircon vents looks familiar like old W type Merc....ditch that faux wood.

Plastics much like Lancer inspira savvy saga etc... what improvement I noticed where those that matter most to daily users. Glove box was big good for SLR or handbag. Center box was superbig for your fav CDs. USB port hidden neatly infront console. Driver right side again a huge sunglasses or smarttag bin ? But this bin rattles when I did corners fast. They need to add some felt or foam to stop the rattling.

Steering feels good even without tele-scorpic function not that I need any. Paddle shifters works well and feels positive. Didn't fancy the auto stick though.

The seats front and back were fine much better body hugging in front thanks to the side seat airbags. Rear seat space is good with clearance below front seats for you to stretch your toes or place a superb amp there.

Nice things like hooks behind seat and the teh-tarik hook in front. What I liked was finally they got those pesky roof grab handles to bounce back slowly without a big sounding Thug!


Engineering
Pop up the hood and you are greeted with a campro and a small turbo unit which is mounted very near the manifold to spool up faster. With such a small turbo don't expect gtr killer prevee OK its what they call a soft turbo and it really goes about doing what it's intended to do. That is to give you a light power boost when you need it.

Mated with a cvt it makes a noisy combo which you will have to get use to. Response below 3k rpm is low mostly dead from below 2k rpm. Wonder this will effect on town fc trying to lug around 17++kg by the way exora is 19++kg you can check this info at right side door pillar.

The low end feel is compounded by the weight of prevee hence you feel like driving a pre-kompressor merc. For the more mature customers they may like this though. Hot blooded boy racers will cringe to think they will be left behind at traffic lights to traffic lights shoot out. Throw in a few light mods to prevee may help remove that lag.

No complains on the cvt gearbox it goes about its auto mode in D with minor whine and doesn't allow full revs if you are used to standard autobox.

Drop to S mode and it will hold any gear you select either via stick shift or steering paddles. This is good for tracking corners or up down genting but it will not shift up by its self you need to up shift else the engine just roars and whines loudly like any manual car.

My fav combo is S and paddles manually toggle each gear like a manual car at each turn and wot down to kick up the turbo fuss. This is the way to get that torque kick we expected and boy does it goes.....

Wait a minute did they upgrade the brakes? With the wot turbo surge you'll better becareful not have any car infront as it's not sufficient to pull you down instantly proton really needs to look into this else we may see a few prevee rear ending others.

To be continued....
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post Apr 23 2012, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(smwah @ Apr 23 2012, 11:00 PM)
Some times very hard to judge during the test drive. First there are over hundred ppl already test drive the car, and worst they are not test drive but trying to spoil the car. Come on u dun drive such way if the car belongs to u. Any way u drive violent also will break lar. U can drive a sedan like driving a 4wd or driving like a sport car.
My only concern is the quality itself. For example when a thing is manufactured there will some tolerance or buffer before it breaks down. That why some design are made to compensate any possible damage could happen. Of course the cost of manufacturing will cost more. So there come the cost down factor.
I not saying this car is bad. Just want to understand how well the car is make. A simple continental car or a simple vios, after driving more than 5 years it still going well. But if a simple proton car maybe after 3 years driving many problem appeared. Sometime i dun think is the qc prob, it could be the design and costing side. So conclusion is how is the preve team would be preform. This is very interesting. Specs wise no problem, now will be coming to reliability.
But still very poision to buy.
Lastly design is very subjective, I think those ppl like continental car will like preve. But for those looking for jap or korean modern design, they may complain it. Personally I like it coz the design is simple and classy.
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Well in terms of reliability my Waja 2001 4g18 not bad. Got the car last year, replace all wear and tear parts, maintain it nicely and the car never let me down. Even managed to survive one day on the track. Only thing is the door handle broke once but that's about it. My friend who bought an Audi A4 year 2000 for 23k said he rather have my car. His car giving many problems to him. While overtaking somebody in a housing area, his driveshaft just patah and fall to the ground leaving chunks of metal behind. His interior also squeaks and creeks alot worse than my car. He spent almost rm10k to service the car and it's still not in the best condition since conti parts are expensive as hell if you compare with Proton. How a car handles age depends on how the owner maintains it and IMO since *many* Proton owners aren't that well off so they tend to skimp on repairs and ending up blaming proton on every fault while drivers of more premium T & How brand are more well off and are more than willing to keep their car in the best condition possible.
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post Apr 23 2012, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(smwah @ Apr 23 2012, 11:00 PM)
Some times very hard to judge during the test drive. First there are over hundred ppl already test drive the car, and worst they are not test drive but trying to spoil the car. Come on u dun drive such way if the car belongs to u. Any way u drive violent also will break lar. U can drive a sedan like driving a 4wd or driving like a sport car.
My only concern is the quality itself. For example when a thing is manufactured there will some tolerance or buffer before it breaks down. That why some design are made to compensate any possible damage could happen. Of course the cost of manufacturing will cost more. So there come the cost down factor.
I not saying this car is bad. Just want to understand how well the car is make. A simple continental car or a simple vios, after driving more than 5 years it still going well. But if a simple proton car maybe after 3 years driving many problem appeared. Sometime i dun think is the qc prob, it could be the design and costing side. So conclusion is how is the preve team would be preform. This is very interesting. Specs wise no problem, now will be coming to reliability.
But still very poision to buy.
Lastly design is very subjective, I think those ppl like continental car will like preve. But for those looking for jap or korean modern design, they may complain it. Personally I like it coz the design is simple and classy.
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I think Proton already got the clue on how to make a reliable car... blush.gif

When the time I want to buy a Persona, every friends of mine, including foreman that I know, tell me not to get Persona.
They give many reasons, from built quality to "local made" Campro Engine etc...
But only the owner will know, and in fact, among the cars that I have been owned, I drive my Persona the widest way, and it really rough and tough! flex.gif
This also out of my expectation, it's a surprise how reliable the so called "local made engine" can withstand my torture... rclxms.gif (although I'm not the craziest driver compare to some people here).
Because of the Persona, Proton gain back my confident, and I am confident to this Preve too! nod.gif


Added on April 23, 2012, 11:22 pm
QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Apr 23 2012, 11:15 PM)
Well in terms of reliability my Waja 2001 4g18 not bad. Got the car last year, replace all wear and tear parts, maintain it nicely and the car never let me down. Even managed to survive one day on the track. Only thing is the door handle broke once but that's about it. My friend who bought an Audi A4 year 2000 for 23k said he rather have my car. His car giving many problems to him. While overtaking somebody in a housing area, his driveshaft just patah and fall to the ground leaving chunks of metal behind. His interior also squeaks and creeks alot worse than my car. He spent almost rm10k to service the car and it's still not in the best condition since conti parts are expensive as hell if you compare with Proton. How a car handles age depends on how the owner maintains it and IMO since *many* Proton owners aren't that well off so they tend to skimp on repairs and ending up blaming proton on every fault while drivers of more premium T &  How brand are more well off and are more than willing to keep their car in the best condition possible.
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Me too had a friend driving brand new Audi A4 (ok, about 10 years ago), but after less than 6 months ownership, while he was driving along North South Highway, the car stalled!
The reason, timing belt (or timing chain, I can't remember) broke and a few valve putus also...
I'm not bashing Audi, but just want to point out, sometimes a brand new car could broke down also lar..... it's by luck maybe... sweat.gif

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post Apr 23 2012, 11:28 PM

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my friends a few of them say why waste money to buy this car cause got lot of negative comments about the dislocated tires. Bad plastic dashboard. bad door welding. I said I book already even not yet test the car at the proton power of 1 event. those are speculative and some not true statement by lots of different people views. I've also test drive and loving it. That's why i buy it. Further more if someone says why waste 73k buy proton when you have lots of other oversea cars option...i think i should say " think about it if i have extra 73k to waste and play around with proton cars why cannot. is my own money not their money. end of the day i am the one who drive and maintain and pay monthly installment for this car not them.
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QUOTE(Az prevay @ Apr 23 2012, 09:29 PM)
i think.. i hv made a correct choice... white is superb
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i wonder where you got that wheel to crop into...
btw, spray the roof black brows.gif

or stick the sticker that a lot of people stick nowadays to replace "respray" i forget what it called
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how to move around town if the car only moves above 2000 rpm? this is not good for fc and my feet since i need to press the pedal all the time just to move slightly. anyone care to explain?

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any brands of car also got so called lemon car..just how many the lemon amount

assuming/example:
fatlari..1 lemon in 1000 car
beemer/merc 1 lemon in 500 car
T/H 1 lemon in 200 car
kimchi 1 lemon in 100 car
potong 1 lemon in 50 car

so the QC is so important,years and years goes on no doubt T/H done very good in QC
potong previos QC is a let down,but start from these few years they become better and better,especialy when DSZ in helm
i am confident with proton too...especialy preve...my car is coming soonnnn.. nod.gif


just my 2 sen smile.gif
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Hope P1 did learn to make a reliable car. I think most ppl concern is the reliability, wear tear is normal. But things like funny noise sound, loose dashboard, things broken etc...... No prob is I do my service accordingly, change things wear and tear. But I hope the car still in tip top condition after 4 years or plus. Owning a car here is not cheap, moreover a car is like a must. Family could at least 1 or 2 cars. I blame gov for imposing high sale tax for car. I not sure local car did subject to sales tax or not. If can, govt should not tax the local car. If u earn more u afford more, but majority still earn cukup makan. So I also hope to have a cukup bagus car to drive.
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QUOTE(smwah @ Apr 23 2012, 11:45 PM)
Hope P1 did learn to make a reliable car. I think most ppl concern is the reliability, wear tear is normal. But things like funny noise sound, loose dashboard, things broken etc...... No prob is I do my service accordingly, change things wear and tear. But I hope the car still in tip top condition after 4 years or plus. Owning a car here is not cheap, moreover a car is like a must. Family could at least 1 or 2 cars. I blame gov for imposing high sale tax for car. I not sure local car did subject to sales tax or not. If can, govt should not tax the local car. If u earn more u afford more, but majority still earn cukup makan. So I also hope to have a cukup bagus car to drive.
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http://www.maa.org.my/info_duty.htm

Yes, even proton is subjected to tax
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Preve is truly global car with teh tarik hook front n back. I bet those mat saleh will wonder what the heck are those hook for.

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i booked black preve. thinking to change to silver.

Reason to change
1. Black is heat. Heat heat..
2. More heat - more AC.
3. More AC - more non-environment friendly.
4. FC also may not be good.

Seriously need you guyz feedback.
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QUOTE(shareDARK @ Apr 23 2012, 11:49 PM)
Preve is truly global car with teh tarik hook front n back. I bet those mat saleh will wonder what the heck are those hook for.

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got meh? i didnt even notice it doh.gif gonna go to the showroom once more this wed then tongue.gif


Added on April 23, 2012, 11:59 pm
QUOTE(xXwasabiXx @ Apr 23 2012, 11:53 PM)
i booked black preve. thinking to change to silver.

Reason to change
1. Black is heat. Heat heat..
2. More heat - more AC.
3. More AC - more non-environment friendly.
4. FC also may not be good.

Seriously need you guyz feedback.
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i doubt, proton ac always cold as freezer even my 15 years old wira only service aircon with recond parts and gas when it is not cold. now i feel like i'm in a freezer (only applicable on normal 30°C days, not like today's 50°C laugh.gif )

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QUOTE(xXwasabiXx @ Apr 23 2012, 11:53 PM)
i booked black preve. thinking to change to silver.

Reason to change
1. Black is heat. Heat heat..
2. More heat - more AC.
3. More AC - more non-environment friendly.
4. FC also may not be good.

Seriously need you guyz feedback.
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Kinda true. Why chose black in the first place?
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Why not get a good tint which rejects most heats and prob solved no?

Actually black welcomes more 1-2 degree celcius compares to other color iinm.
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Because it reeks yakuza!
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post Apr 24 2012, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Apr 23 2012, 11:53 PM)
got meh? i didnt even notice it  doh.gif gonna go to the showroom once more this wed then tongue.gif
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Got... got.... biggrin.gif

One is here:
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Another two at both sides here (or these hook are for other purpose?):

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Some basic info on how to choose car colors.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2096349_choose-car-color.html



What the color of the car says about you.

http://www.squidoo.com/car_color

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