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stinger82
post Apr 7 2012, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:27 PM)
normally how long to wait for second batch?

i plan to wait for review from first batch, the specs, the features, the fancy stuff, all very gooding, only one aspect left to be considered, the famous low quality of proton cars....

if the review is good, i straight go book preve 1.6L premium....in second batch...
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best to avoid first batch.

you very smart.

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post Apr 7 2012, 11:38 PM

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post Apr 7 2012, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 7 2012, 04:24 PM)
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im sure u guys have seen it... but just sharing
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you forgot to add one more thing, Resale value. Proton, not so sure, Toyota, ok lah, honda, sure good one.
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post Apr 7 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Volfeed @ Apr 7 2012, 09:55 PM)
You're spot on. This is how I drive my Honda City IDSI and Exora Bold CFE. In normal condition, just need to maintain about 2100 RPM for EB, and 2600 RPM for IDSI to smoothly accelerate. To overtake, use the S or L mode. The surge is there. Especially for EB, the engine will scream when I floored the pedal, but the speed gain is so smal, comparatively. Malaysians are probably could not get used to drive with CVT. That's why Honda dropped it altogether and replaced with conventional AT for the new Honda City, I believe.
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 7 2012, 10:26 PM)
No need to wait for Preve, if you just wanna test the 1.6 IAFM+ CVT variant (since we are talking about max torque @ 4k RPM), the Saga FLX SE shares the same powertrain and characteristics, minus the weight.

The CFE CVT variant reaches max torque at 2k RPM.
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for 0-100 sprint, torque plays a role, just as horsepower. the hp at 2k rpm wont make it to 100kmh. but i do agree, with the CVT, normal day driving, u'll rarely rev it to redline

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post Apr 7 2012, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(juztborn @ Apr 7 2012, 07:58 PM)
Super Gd news! My SA can offer cash rebate up to rm 250 on tops of freebies such as steering lock, smart tag, full tank=) pm me!!
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my ideal of "Goodies from SA"
1. Cash rebate - this not sure how much can SA offer.
2. smart tag - The SmartTAG will be sold at RM130 per unit inclusive of FREE Touch ‘n Go
card with RM10 reload value.

steering lock, i think better to buy a good one unless SA can give a good one.
security etching already included.
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post Apr 7 2012, 11:50 PM

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ooh~ lol, now u guys become the marketing already liao la... LOL... saw the sms shot at the last thread~

btw, congrats!
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post Apr 7 2012, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:34 PM)
best to avoid first batch.

you very smart.

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flaming?sarcasm?
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post Apr 7 2012, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:43 PM)
for 0-100 sprint, torque plays a role, just as horsepower. the hp at 2k rpm wont make it to 100kmh. but i do agree, with the CVT, normal day driving, u'll rarely rev it to redline
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:49 PM)
my ideal of "Goodies from SA"
1. Cash rebate - this not sure how much can SA offer.
2. smart tag - The SmartTAG will be sold at RM130 per unit inclusive of FREE Touch ‘n Go
card with RM10 reload value.

steering lock, i think better to buy a good one unless SA can give a good one.
security etching already included.
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Forget steering lock, ask for locktech brows.gif
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post Apr 7 2012, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:50 PM)
flaming?sarcasm?
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it depends on how u look at it. historically the 1st batch guys will be the white mouse, myself included.
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post Apr 7 2012, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:53 PM)
it depends on how u look at it. historically the 1st batch guys will be the white mouse, myself included.
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And not just Proton, might I add.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 7 2012, 07:10 PM)
off topic, also sharing thought. After reading all the reviews on preve by media, i think that i notice, all saying the iafm+ cvt variant really loud in term of engine sound.

If u follow closely, they mentioned it loud when pedal to metal@at 5k rpm. Not only the engine sound but cvt whining also contribute to that.

The question is, do u need to pedal to metal to overtake driving cvt or even driving uphill or driving up to speed 140-160kmh?

The answer that i gain from my source, is no. Malaysian still new with cvt gbox even its already been around long time ago.

Driving a cvt is not the same as driving twin clutch, conv at n manual where to extract all the power and torque by pedal to metal.

By pedal to metal cvt, the full cvt mode change to 'slow sat mode' where u can see the rev counter climbing slowly to redline(not too slow, it like u r driving only 1 speed gbox, u can see the rev climbing), while in full cvt, the rev can jump to any rpm, depend on input from throttle.

When it reach highest rev, it will static, n of course, u will hear the sound really loud, like driving manual, first gear, rev to redline n never change to next gear.

Pedal to metal only apply in cvt if u need to reach its top most speed(km/h) which is rarely unless u want to test up what is the top speed of ur car or just suka suka.

For example, those who are driving iafm+ cvt, only need to rev around 2k rpm and below for town driving, n 2.5k-3k rpm highway driving, depend on speed u want to reach. If only u want to overtake@needed all the torque available, just pedal up to 4k rpm where the max torque available in engine. Max 85% of throttle input is needed coz beyond 85%,its enter the slow sat mode.

So, in daily or normal driving, balik kampung driving, conquer hilly route, climbing high places n etc,no need to rev beyond 4k rpm. Need better power, just slotted to L mode, it rev 20% higher than normal D mode, n throttle will be crispier n engine braking will be apparent.

Then, if u drive cvt like what it supposed to, then, the engine sound wont be bugging u too much.

Even if u want to gauge the century sprint timing, no need pedal to metal. Just rev up to 4k rpm only coz all torque is there. If u want to get faster timing, slot to L, then rev 4k rpm. While the others keep pedal to metal to reach century sprint n stress the engine to get there(means other 1.6 na with conv auto@manual), u just relaxing cruising at 4k without any jerk due to gear shifting.

Erm, it seems they really used 90kmh control env data for fc in cvt iafm+1.6,rather than target fc @90kmh as in flx 1.3. Coz the real data for flx 1.3 iafm+ cvt is 5.65 L/100km@90kmh, but they publish 6 L/100km based on target fc@90kmh. While mixed fc around 7.68L+-/100km

So, i think combine fc for iafm+1.6 cvt is around 8L+-/100km.

For cfe cvt, no need to comment coz all torque available at 2k rpm, n at 1.5k rpm, already has better torque than iafm+. Just my advice for cfe cvt owners,, try to control ur right foot, dont drive reaching 2k rpm in town driving if u want to extract to most fc for cfe.
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Hearing from my friends who are driving turbocharged cars, they said there is not much difference between half throttle and full throttle once the boost kicks in. But those are high performance SR20s with huge turbos. In the case of the Preve, is it the same?

QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 7 2012, 07:16 PM)
and for stopping distance, why preve out brake all its benchmark competitors, look at preve disc size front n rear, it 15 inch disc, n check the others in b@c segments. Try to compare the size, evem for focus
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the disc itself is 15"? you sure bro? The rims 15" i faham la but the disc? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:50 PM)
flaming?sarcasm?
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it is a right move. a few gen 2 caught fire when it first launch.

unless u very sure first batch plastic is better, lol.
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post Apr 7 2012, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:53 PM)
it depends on how u look at it. historically the 1st batch guys will be the white mouse, myself included.
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yup, i do feel 1st batch may not be the best batch to get.

too bad i can't wait till FL or SE or LE. sad sad sad
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post Apr 7 2012, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:57 PM)
it is a right move. a few gen 2 caught fire when it first launch.

unless u very sure first batch plastic is better, lol.
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last i heard the Gen 2 front bonnet (hope the term is correct) burst open when some crazy ppl drive the car to the max speed...


Added on April 8, 2012, 12:00 am
QUOTE(stargate8 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:58 PM)
yup, i do feel 1st batch may not be the best batch to get.

too bad i can't wait till FL or SE or LE. sad sad sad
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no need to wait that long what...i think second batch is sufficient....
cant wait to smoke those 1.8 civic....hehehe brows.gif

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post Apr 8 2012, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 7 2012, 11:54 PM)
And not just Proton, might I add.
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yaya..like those honda city guys, 1st batch kena nicely from honda. not to mention the civic's power steering


Added on April 8, 2012, 12:05 am
QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 7 2012, 07:16 PM)
and for stopping distance, why preve out brake all its benchmark competitors, look at preve disc size front n rear, it 15 inch disc, n check the others in b@c segments. Try to compare the size, evem for focus
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the inspira has 15/14, do u know the figures for the inspira?

The altis has 15/15 as well, but i am not sure about he civic.



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post Apr 8 2012, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 8 2012, 12:02 AM)
yaya..like those honda city guys, 1st batch kena nicely from honda. not to mention the civic's power steering
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I dunno the story leh, do educate us brows.gif


Added on April 8, 2012, 12:08 am
QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:57 PM)
it is a right move. a few gen 2 caught fire when it first launch.

unless u very sure first batch plastic is better, lol.
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Not long after it was launched, I saw a Gen 2 stalled in the middle of the road, upon closer inspection, I see the entire left front wheel has come off, complete with hub and disc. The lady owner was standing beside the road crying cry.gif

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:59 PM)
last i heard the Gen 2 front bonnet (hope the term is correct) burst open when some crazy ppl drive the car to the max speed...


Added on April 8, 2012, 12:00 am
no need to wait that long what...i think second batch is sufficient....
cant wait to smoke those 1.8 civic....hehehe brows.gif
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ya lor can't wait for that long, shld be getting 2nd batch.

hmm,if 1st batch got problem, how soon or which batch normally they will apply the fix?
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 8 2012, 12:05 AM)
I dunno the story leh, do educate us  brows.gif


Added on April 8, 2012, 12:08 am

Not long after it was launched, I saw a Gen 2 stalled in the middle of the road, upon closer inspection, I see the entire left front wheel has come off, complete with hub and disc. The lady owner was standing beside the road crying  cry.gif
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dont have to think too far, during the saga flx launch, the cvts were recalled.

Yes, i know other makes have problems with the 1st batch as well, but the most recent one was the saga flx.

the pros, feel good factor,

cons, when ur car hv problem, u r the only one. smile.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 8 2012, 12:05 AM)
I dunno the story leh, do educate us  brows.gif


Added on April 8, 2012, 12:08 am

Not long after it was launched, I saw a Gen 2 stalled in the middle of the road, upon closer inspection, I see the entire left front wheel has come off, complete with hub and disc. The lady owner was standing beside the road crying  cry.gif
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seriously ...my goodness
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:57 PM)
it is a right move. a few gen 2 caught fire when it first launch.

unless u very sure first batch plastic is better, lol.
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i witness one of that myself in MRR2... so mani yrs ago!

but still fresh in memori

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