QUOTE(amduser @ May 3 2012, 09:39 AM)
shutter speed to fast it will freeze the motion la, i want those panning effect to show the car is moving
but too slow will be more worst right ? P.S: PS can make motion blur.
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May 3 2012, 10:08 AM
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May 3 2012, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:08 AM) PS can make Panning effect?If you use fast shutter, the tyre's won't be spinning the background also will be clear. It will look like the car stop there for you to shoot. That's why people use panning for moving objects. The shutter speed depends on the speed of the moving object and you need to follow the object as you pan and press the shutter. ![]() |
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May 3 2012, 10:25 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Still ok maa. This kind of grain still can be easily removed in LR or PS if done right. Pardon my noobness/beginner-ness, but this is what I did in LR : Before : ![]() After : ![]() In LR under Noise Reduction, i just increase luminance and color and nothing else.... I try to retain some grains a lil' bit. If done straight from your RAW after doing the sharpening, I think should be better. *oh well, I'm also stuck with 1600/3200 only of my D3100... 3200 i use only when urgent or really needed. Had to use 1600 max most of the time only. Wish I could get D5100/D7000 sensor and push to 3200/6400 when I need it (yeah D700/D800 would be nice but ...but ... but ....*sigh* huhu...) This post has been edited by mmohdnor: May 3 2012, 10:30 AM |
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May 3 2012, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:08 AM) dont rely on post process la, get it right in the shot is more important QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 3 2012, 10:21 AM) PS can make Panning effect? this is that kind of panning i wanted to make, but sometime my zoom lens cant track the subject well with AF-C because it is a crop lens and AF is slow If you use fast shutter, the tyre's won't be spinning the background also will be clear. It will look like the car stop there for you to shoot. That's why people use panning for moving objects. The shutter speed depends on the speed of the moving object and you need to follow the object as you pan and press the shutter. hard to hold zoom lens steady without monopod especially after running around the area for different angle |
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May 3 2012, 10:34 AM
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May 3 2012, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ May 3 2012, 10:25 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Still ok maa. This kind of grain still can be easily removed in LR or PS if done right. Pardon my noobness/beginner-ness, but this is what I did in LR : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « In LR under Noise Reduction, i just increase luminance and color and nothing else.... I try to retain some grains a lil' bit. If done straight from your RAW after doing the sharpening, I think should be better. *oh well, I'm also stuck with 1600/3200 only of my D3100... 3200 i use only when urgent or really needed. Had to use 1600 max most of the time only. Wish I could get D5100/D7000 sensor and push to 3200/6400 when I need it (yeah D700/D800 would be nice but ...but ... but ....*sigh* huhu...) Added on May 3, 2012, 10:47 am QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:34 AM) another question: how fast shutter speed for make the car stopped? how slow the shutter speed to make eveything blur? ![]() If you look at water drop photography, they use high shutter speed to freeze the water drop. The same concept applies. try go shooting at a water fountain. Try fast to slow shutter speeds, its easier to understand This post has been edited by gerald7: May 3 2012, 10:49 AM |
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May 3 2012, 11:06 AM
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bright daylight & outdoor ok la 100-400 ... but indoors ... D3100 not so good dy, if not sure get slow shutter speed.
when I'm doing product shots, I use 200-400 also, coz the light alrdy bright and I'm always on tripod. |
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QUOTE(gerald7 @ May 3 2012, 10:43 AM) wow. everyone so extreme. ISO 200-400 cannot shot indoor without flash la, many of my indoor photos are shot at ISO 1000+ especially during pc fair, nikon no need worry about low light la Added on May 3, 2012, 10:47 am This was shot actually at 5kmph.. but looks like going at faster speed. Shutter speed was 1/30 of a second.\ If you look at water drop photography, they use high shutter speed to freeze the water drop. The same concept applies. try go shooting at a water fountain. Try fast to slow shutter speeds, its easier to understand i use 1/30 shutter speed but cannot pan well, got those minor blur/handshake |
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May 3 2012, 11:46 AM
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new here, wassap
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QUOTE(amduser @ May 3 2012, 10:28 AM) dont rely on post process la, get it right in the shot is more important I agree, try get it right first time....so you can avoid spending time in PP (I malas PP lol)this is that kind of panning i wanted to make, but sometime my zoom lens cant track the subject well with AF-C because it is a crop lens and AF is slow hard to hold zoom lens steady without monopod especially after running around the area for different angle QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:34 AM) another question: how fast shutter speed for make the car stopped? how slow the shutter speed to make eveything blur? QUOTE(gerald7 @ May 3 2012, 10:43 AM) wow. everyone so extreme. Thom Hogan (http://www.bythom.com/index.htm) has a good hint on his page today for panning, you might find it helpful Added on May 3, 2012, 10:47 am This was shot actually at 5kmph.. but looks like going at faster speed. Shutter speed was 1/30 of a second. If you look at water drop photography, they use high shutter speed to freeze the water drop. The same concept applies. try go shooting at a water fountain. Try fast to slow shutter speeds, its easier to understand QUOTE(mmohdnor @ May 3 2012, 11:06 AM) bright daylight & outdoor ok la 100-400 ... but indoors ... D3100 not so good dy, if not sure get slow shutter speed. Yup yup you are right! Looking back at it we were very light handed with the noise reduction. I think we were worried we would wipe out too much detail, but I tried it again and we got better results when I'm doing product shots, I use 200-400 also, coz the light alrdy bright and I'm always on tripod. QUOTE(amduser @ May 3 2012, 11:08 AM) ISO 200-400 cannot shot indoor without flash la, many of my indoor photos are shot at ISO 1000+ especially during pc fair, nikon no need worry about low light la Yeap, standard shooting ISO 100-400 for max image quality...it's only when you go to the extremes like sports, events and concerts when you need a silly level of ISO. (D700 pls i use 1/30 shutter speed but cannot pan well, got those minor blur/handshake QUOTE(teetaatee @ May 3 2012, 11:46 AM) Hi! |
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May 3 2012, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(gerald7 @ May 3 2012, 10:43 AM) wow. everyone so extreme. this looks dangerous...looks like you open the car door and head out to shoot in car. Added on May 3, 2012, 10:47 am This was shot actually at 5kmph.. but looks like going at faster speed. Shutter speed was 1/30 of a second. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « If you look at water drop photography, they use high shutter speed to freeze the water drop. The same concept applies. try go shooting at a water fountain. Try fast to slow shutter speeds, its easier to understand with low angle? hmm there i got a question quite long already... a body with auto focus motor and witout.... does it help auto focus faster with AFS lens? |
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May 3 2012, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(amduser @ May 3 2012, 10:28 AM) dont rely on post process la, get it right in the shot is more important Doesn't matter, people still do with kit lens anyway. I'm using Tamron lens, and the AF is also slow and not all the shot will be good, there will be many fail shot. this is that kind of panning i wanted to make, but sometime my zoom lens cant track the subject well with AF-C because it is a crop lens and AF is slow hard to hold zoom lens steady without monopod especially after running around the area for different angle You need to test with different shutter speed to see which match the best with the object speed. For GRA/autocross/autokhana, the speed can vary a lot and also depends, cause GRA involves more turning, so you need to also shoot at the right place.. QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:34 AM) another question: how fast shutter speed for make the car stopped? how slow the shutter speed to make eveything blur? E.g. The tyre is not spinning (try shooting spinning fan, is your shutter speed is fast, the fan is frozen in your photo) The background doesn't have the effect like the panning photo. Panning means, your camera is moving tracking the subject. So, in slow shutter and you move your camera, what happens? So how come the subject is not blur? Because you're FOLLOWING the subject. It's best if you try it out, you can even pan people walking, or cars on the street, etc. Can even do with mobile phones. One you're done trying it, with Flash, you can do much more, like rear-sync. Saw Initial-D effect, the cars leavin the trails of their back/brake light? |
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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ May 1 2012, 07:10 PM) is this just pure 105mm micro ... nothing else attached? that is a cropped photo also, is this taken at 1:1? ... makes me envy over my tamron sp90 ..lol. can share the exif info? thanks nothing else attached.. not even UV filter... juz the lens n body but i set the PC to Vivid Exif Info anyway.. i always here ppl say tamron macro lens are better? |
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:34 AM) another question: how fast shutter speed for make the car stopped? how slow the shutter speed to make eveything blur? the pic below i use 1/40 http://i.imgur.com/70trd.jpg Added on May 3, 2012, 2:16 pm QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 3 2012, 10:21 AM) PS can make Panning effect? ya, PS can make panning If you use fast shutter, the tyre's won't be spinning the background also will be clear. It will look like the car stop there for you to shoot. That's why people use panning for moving objects. The shutter speed depends on the speed of the moving object and you need to follow the object as you pan and press the shutter. This post has been edited by teetaatee: May 3 2012, 02:18 PM |
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QUOTE(seather @ May 3 2012, 02:08 PM) that is a cropped photo In terms of price, but there's many difference in what it offers.nothing else attached.. not even UV filter... juz the lens n body but i set the PC to Vivid Exif Info anyway.. i always here ppl say tamron macro lens are better? Nikon's 105 have IF, Nano Coating, Much Faster and Silent Focusing, Excellent build, VR2, etc. |
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QUOTE(zhinsara @ May 2 2012, 11:34 PM) ISO3200 on a D300s. Shot RAW, applied NR in LR3 then added fill light, that might explain the grain. I WANT A D700 Based on latest reports, you should want a D800 instead. Meanwhile, I think most have come across these but just in case you missed them, I have listed the ones I found very good and well thought out reviews of the D800/D800E. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/...pressions.shtml http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_p...d=7-11676-12555 Lastly, some samples of the D800 as a sports camera shooting polo ! http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1108889 QUOTE(amduser @ May 3 2012, 07:29 AM) want to ask how to improve my panning? i tried using zoom lens that day with slow shutter speed at 1/30, many picture appear blurred due to handshake, only some of this picture usable, but still quite blurry Practice, practice and practice. 1/30 maybe ok for wider angle shots depending on your focal length. If longer focal length, you may want to use a faster shutter speed until you're most comfortable. This may differ from person to person unfortunately. A VR lens would give you better advantage of using slower shutter speeds.https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2...09147537&type=3 QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:34 AM) another question: how fast shutter speed for make the car stopped? how slow the shutter speed to make eveything blur? QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 12:08 PM) a body with auto focus motor and witout.... does it help auto focus faster with AFS lens? Usually bodies with AF motor built-in are Pro bodies with better AF module. So therefore most of those bodies with built-in AF motor will indirectly have faster focus with AF-S lenses.QUOTE(seather @ May 3 2012, 02:08 PM) anyway.. i always here ppl say tamron macro lens are better? Who says? Tamron is good bang for the buck but if you compare just performance alone, the Nikkor is almost always the better lens. |
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May 3 2012, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ May 3 2012, 03:22 PM) In relation to panning? That's a very generic question ! Depends on your focal length and how fast the car is actually moving. general question!? hmm next time i got chance stand there shoot car then i try ask again, even now got answer still cant remember one. i m [very] dumb in study one Usually bodies with AF motor built-in are Pro bodies with better AF module. So therefore most of those bodies with built-in AF motor will indirectly have faster focus with AF-S lenses. hehe seeing the nikon rumor about the not-so-sure-is-true-or-not D600 that FF body without AF motor makes me think this lol |
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May 3 2012, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ May 3 2012, 03:22 PM) Based on latest reports, you should want a D800 instead. i think i second some of those comments that i rather own the 400mm f/2.8 that he used Lastly, some samples of the D800 as a sports camera shooting polo ! http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1108889 |
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 3 2012, 04:05 PM) i think i second some of those comments that i rather own the 400mm f/2.8 that he used Of course ! Who wouldn't... It's more than double the price of the D800.Anyway, the original shooter posted that he already had that lens and had used it on several Nikon bodies. The D800 yielded the best and most satisfying results. |
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