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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.15, Get your D800/D4 now !

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post May 3 2012, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(amduser @ May 3 2012, 09:39 AM)
shutter speed to fast it will freeze the motion la, i want those panning effect to show the car is moving
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but too slow will be more worst right ? whistling.gif

P.S: PS can make motion blur. brows.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:08 AM)
but too slow will be more worst right ? whistling.gif

P.S: PS can make motion blur.  brows.gif  whistling.gif
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PS can make Panning effect?
If you use fast shutter, the tyre's won't be spinning the background also will be clear. It will look like the car stop there for you to shoot. That's why people use panning for moving objects.
The shutter speed depends on the speed of the moving object and you need to follow the object as you pan and press the shutter.

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post May 3 2012, 10:25 AM

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Still ok maa. This kind of grain still can be easily removed in LR or PS if done right.
Pardon my noobness/beginner-ness, but this is what I did in LR :

Before :
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After :
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In LR under Noise Reduction, i just increase luminance and color and nothing else.... I try to retain some grains a lil' bit. If done straight from your RAW after doing the sharpening, I think should be better. tongue.gif

*oh well, I'm also stuck with 1600/3200 only of my D3100... 3200 i use only when urgent or really needed. Had to use 1600 max most of the time only. sad.gif
Wish I could get D5100/D7000 sensor and push to 3200/6400 when I need it (yeah D700/D800 would be nice but ...but ... but ....*sigh* huhu...)

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post May 3 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:08 AM)
but too slow will be more worst right ? whistling.gif

P.S: PS can make motion blur.  brows.gif  whistling.gif
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dont rely on post process la, get it right in the shot is more important tongue.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 3 2012, 10:21 AM)
PS can make Panning effect?
If you use fast shutter, the tyre's won't be spinning the background also will be clear. It will look like the car stop there for you to shoot. That's why people use panning for moving objects.
The shutter speed depends on the speed of the moving object and you need to follow the object as you pan and press the shutter.
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this is that kind of panning i wanted to make, but sometime my zoom lens cant track the subject well with AF-C because it is a crop lens and AF is slow sad.gif

hard to hold zoom lens steady without monopod especially after running around the area for different angle
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post May 3 2012, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 3 2012, 10:21 AM)
PS can make Panning effect?
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another question:

how fast shutter speed for make the car stopped?

how slow the shutter speed to make eveything blur? hmm.gif unsure.gif

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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ May 3 2012, 10:25 AM)
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Still ok maa. This kind of grain still can be easily removed in LR or PS if done right.
Pardon my noobness/beginner-ness, but this is what I did in LR :

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In LR under Noise Reduction, i just increase luminance and color and nothing else.... I try to retain some grains a lil' bit. If done straight from your RAW after doing the sharpening, I think should be better. tongue.gif

*oh well, I'm also stuck with 1600/3200 only of my D3100... 3200 i use only when urgent or really needed. Had to use 1600 max most of the time only. sad.gif
Wish I could get D5100/D7000 sensor and push to 3200/6400 when I need it (yeah D700/D800 would be nice but ...but ... but ....*sigh* huhu...)
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wow. everyone so extreme. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif haha I seldom go past ISO800. Normally shooting at ISO200-400


Added on May 3, 2012, 10:47 am
QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:34 AM)
unsure.gif

another question:

how fast shutter speed for make the car stopped?

how slow the shutter speed to make eveything blur?  hmm.gif   unsure.gif
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This was shot actually at 5kmph.. but looks like going at faster speed. Shutter speed was 1/30 of a second.
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If you look at water drop photography, they use high shutter speed to freeze the water drop. The same concept applies. try go shooting at a water fountain. Try fast to slow shutter speeds, its easier to understand smile.gif)

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bright daylight & outdoor ok la 100-400 ... but indoors ... D3100 not so good dy, if not sure get slow shutter speed. sad.gif
when I'm doing product shots, I use 200-400 also, coz the light alrdy bright and I'm always on tripod.
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QUOTE(gerald7 @ May 3 2012, 10:43 AM)
wow. everyone so extreme. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  haha I seldom go past ISO800. Normally shooting at ISO200-400


Added on May 3, 2012, 10:47 am

This was shot actually at 5kmph.. but looks like going at faster speed. Shutter speed was 1/30 of a second.\

If you look at water drop photography, they use high shutter speed to freeze the water drop. The same concept applies. try go shooting at a water fountain. Try fast to slow shutter speeds, its easier to understand smile.gif)
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ISO 200-400 cannot shot indoor without flash la, many of my indoor photos are shot at ISO 1000+ especially during pc fair, nikon no need worry about low light la tongue.gif

i use 1/30 shutter speed but cannot pan well, got those minor blur/handshake sad.gif
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QUOTE(amduser @ May 3 2012, 10:28 AM)
dont rely on post process la, get it right in the shot is more important tongue.gif
this is that kind of panning i wanted to make, but sometime my zoom lens cant track the subject well with AF-C because it is a crop lens and AF is slow

hard to hold zoom lens steady without monopod especially after running around the area for different angle
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I agree, try get it right first time....so you can avoid spending time in PP (I malas PP lol)


QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:34 AM)


another question:

how fast shutter speed for make the car stopped?

how slow the shutter speed to make eveything blur? 
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QUOTE(gerald7 @ May 3 2012, 10:43 AM)
wow. everyone so extreme. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  haha I seldom go past ISO800. Normally shooting at ISO200-400


Added on May 3, 2012, 10:47 am

This was shot actually at 5kmph.. but looks like going at faster speed. Shutter speed was 1/30 of a second.

If you look at water drop photography, they use high shutter speed to freeze the water drop. The same concept applies. try go shooting at a water fountain. Try fast to slow shutter speeds, its easier to understand smile.gif)
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Thom Hogan (http://www.bythom.com/index.htm) has a good hint on his page today for panning, you might find it helpful smile.gif


QUOTE(mmohdnor @ May 3 2012, 11:06 AM)
bright daylight & outdoor ok la 100-400 ... but indoors ... D3100 not so good dy, if not sure get slow shutter speed. sad.gif
when I'm doing product shots, I use 200-400 also, coz the light alrdy bright and I'm always on tripod.
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Yup yup you are right! Looking back at it we were very light handed with the noise reduction. I think we were worried we would wipe out too much detail, but I tried it again and we got better results smile.gif

QUOTE(amduser @ May 3 2012, 11:08 AM)
ISO 200-400 cannot shot indoor without flash la, many of my indoor photos are shot at ISO 1000+ especially during pc fair, nikon no need worry about low light la tongue.gif

i use 1/30 shutter speed but cannot pan well, got those minor blur/handshake
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Yeap, standard shooting ISO 100-400 for max image quality...it's only when you go to the extremes like sports, events and concerts when you need a silly level of ISO. (D700 pls cry.gif )


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QUOTE(gerald7 @ May 3 2012, 10:43 AM)
wow. everyone so extreme. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  haha I seldom go past ISO800. Normally shooting at ISO200-400


Added on May 3, 2012, 10:47 am

This was shot actually at 5kmph.. but looks like going at faster speed. Shutter speed was 1/30 of a second.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

If you look at water drop photography, they use high shutter speed to freeze the water drop. The same concept applies. try go shooting at a water fountain. Try fast to slow shutter speeds, its easier to understand smile.gif)
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this looks dangerous...looks like you open the car door and head out to shoot in car. shocking.gif
with low angle? unsure.gif thumbup.gif

hmm there i got a question quite long already...

a body with auto focus motor and witout.... does it help auto focus faster with AFS lens?
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QUOTE(amduser @ May 3 2012, 10:28 AM)
dont rely on post process la, get it right in the shot is more important tongue.gif
this is that kind of panning i wanted to make, but sometime my zoom lens cant track the subject well with AF-C because it is a crop lens and AF is slow sad.gif

hard to hold zoom lens steady without monopod especially after running around the area for different angle
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Doesn't matter, people still do with kit lens anyway. I'm using Tamron lens, and the AF is also slow and not all the shot will be good, there will be many fail shot.

You need to test with different shutter speed to see which match the best with the object speed. For GRA/autocross/autokhana, the speed can vary a lot and also depends, cause GRA involves more turning, so you need to also shoot at the right place..

QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:34 AM)
unsure.gif

another question:

how fast shutter speed for make the car stopped?

how slow the shutter speed to make eveything blur?  hmm.gif  unsure.gif
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If you use fast shutter, everything is FROZEN.
E.g. The tyre is not spinning (try shooting spinning fan, is your shutter speed is fast, the fan is frozen in your photo)
The background doesn't have the effect like the panning photo.

Panning means, your camera is moving tracking the subject. So, in slow shutter and you move your camera, what happens?
So how come the subject is not blur? Because you're FOLLOWING the subject.

It's best if you try it out, you can even pan people walking, or cars on the street, etc. Can even do with mobile phones.

One you're done trying it, with Flash, you can do much more, like rear-sync. Saw Initial-D effect, the cars leavin the trails of their back/brake light?

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hi, so whats the topic now? hehe
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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ May 1 2012, 07:10 PM)
is this just pure 105mm micro ... nothing else attached?
also, is this taken at 1:1? ... makes me envy over my tamron sp90 ..lol.

can share the exif info? thanks
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that is a cropped photo blush.gif testing b4 paying the shop...

nothing else attached.. not even UV filter... juz the lens n body but i set the PC to Vivid

Exif Info

anyway.. i always here ppl say tamron macro lens are better? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:34 AM)
unsure.gif

another question:

how fast shutter speed for make the car stopped?

how slow the shutter speed to make eveything blur?  hmm.gif   unsure.gif
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usually panning shot i use 1/50 or 1/60

the pic below i use 1/40 biggrin.gif

http://i.imgur.com/70trd.jpg


Added on May 3, 2012, 2:16 pm
QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 3 2012, 10:21 AM)
PS can make Panning effect?
If you use fast shutter, the tyre's won't be spinning the background also will be clear. It will look like the car stop there for you to shoot. That's why people use panning for moving objects.
The shutter speed depends on the speed of the moving object and you need to follow the object as you pan and press the shutter.

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ya, PS can make panning brows.gif but not really natural


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QUOTE(seather @ May 3 2012, 02:08 PM)
that is a cropped photo  blush.gif testing b4 paying the shop...

nothing else attached.. not even UV filter... juz the lens n body but i set the PC to Vivid

Exif Info

anyway.. i always here ppl say tamron macro lens are better?  hmm.gif
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In terms of price, but there's many difference in what it offers.

Nikon's 105 have IF, Nano Coating, Much Faster and Silent Focusing, Excellent build, VR2, etc.
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QUOTE(zhinsara @ May 2 2012, 11:34 PM)
ISO3200 on a D300s. Shot RAW, applied NR in LR3 then added fill light, that might explain the grain. I WANT A D700  icon_question.gif (or even better a D3s lolol  doh.gif )
Based on latest reports, you should want a D800 instead. biggrin.gif

Meanwhile, I think most have come across these but just in case you missed them, I have listed the ones I found very good and well thought out reviews of the D800/D800E.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/...pressions.shtml

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_p...d=7-11676-12555

Lastly, some samples of the D800 as a sports camera shooting polo ! notworthy.gif

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1108889

QUOTE(amduser @ May 3 2012, 07:29 AM)
want to ask how to improve my panning? i tried using zoom lens that day with slow shutter speed at 1/30, many picture appear blurred due to handshake, only some of this picture usable, but still quite blurry sad.gif

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2...09147537&type=3
Practice, practice and practice. 1/30 maybe ok for wider angle shots depending on your focal length. If longer focal length, you may want to use a faster shutter speed until you're most comfortable. This may differ from person to person unfortunately. A VR lens would give you better advantage of using slower shutter speeds.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 10:34 AM)
unsure.gif

another question:

how fast shutter speed for make the car stopped?

how slow the shutter speed to make eveything blur?  hmm.gif  unsure.gif
In relation to panning? That's a very generic question ! Depends on your focal length and how fast the car is actually moving.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 3 2012, 12:08 PM)
a body with auto focus motor and witout.... does it help auto focus faster with AFS lens?
Usually bodies with AF motor built-in are Pro bodies with better AF module. So therefore most of those bodies with built-in AF motor will indirectly have faster focus with AF-S lenses.

QUOTE(seather @ May 3 2012, 02:08 PM)
anyway.. i always here ppl say tamron macro lens are better?  hmm.gif
Who says? Tamron is good bang for the buck but if you compare just performance alone, the Nikkor is almost always the better lens.


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QUOTE(jchue73 @ May 3 2012, 03:22 PM)
In relation to panning? That's a very generic question ! Depends on your focal length and how fast the car is actually moving.
Usually bodies with AF motor built-in are Pro bodies with better AF module. So therefore most of those bodies with built-in AF motor will indirectly have faster focus with AF-S lenses.
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general question!? hmm next time i got chance stand there shoot car then i try ask again, even now got answer still cant remember one. i m [very] dumb in study one tongue.gif

hehe seeing the nikon rumor about the not-so-sure-is-true-or-not D600 that FF body without AF motor makes me think this lol tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ May 3 2012, 03:22 PM)
Based on latest reports, you should want a D800 instead.  biggrin.gif
Lastly, some samples of the D800 as a sports camera shooting polo !  notworthy.gif

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1108889
i think i second some of those comments that i rather own the 400mm f/2.8 that he used tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 3 2012, 04:05 PM)
i think i second some of those comments that i rather own the 400mm f/2.8 that he used tongue.gif
Of course ! Who wouldn't... It's more than double the price of the D800.

Anyway, the original shooter posted that he already had that lens and had used it on several Nikon bodies. The D800 yielded the best and most satisfying results.

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