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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.15, Get your D800/D4 now !

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post Apr 16 2012, 10:54 AM

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So, has anyone speculated on the D400? It's the camera I'm most looking forward to to upgrade a D300s and D90. I'm definitely hoping that it'll be D800 style body with D3s or D4 sensor for my shooting work, but the rumors are flying otherwise (24mp DX, wtf?). What are all your thoughts on this?


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post Apr 16 2012, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 16 2012, 03:54 PM)
D800 and D4 also have AF-A mode.


Added on April 16, 2012, 3:58 pm

pros who use both FX and DX will want a DX body that has similar control layouts as their FX bodies, so its either nikon redesign the D7000 replacement, or keep D300s replacement as DX.
doubt a redesign will happen, unless its called a D8000 tongue.gif
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Perhaps even put a newer body style for the D7000. Not as large as the FX bodies but slightly larger than the current D7k.

But I really feel that the trend will push the D300s replacement to be FX. Heck, a new D700 can be had for abt RM6k. Previously the D300s originally came out about that price IIRC. Even better it'll explain the reason why Nikon has not put out any pro-class DX glass.
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post Apr 16 2012, 05:36 PM

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I'll specify then.

Constant, large aperture lenses (both zoom and prime), with or without a gold ring. High build quality with magnesium alloy and extensive weather sealing. Or at least how I see it. There haven't been any of those for DX for a while other than those you've just quoted. Even then, lenses of moderate, but constant aperture which are well built are absent for DX.

While you're right that yes, you can use FX glass to cover your DX needs, sometimes I do wish that my kit was actually smaller but just as well built. Also, putting out 10k for a FX body to go wide with the associated glass is out of reach for a lot of people, especially enthusiasts. So I do believe that there is a need for some good DX glass.
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post Apr 16 2012, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 16 2012, 07:34 PM)
ohh ok.
so both still in production.
but anyway, imo the DX ones dont need that much upgrading, compared to FX which needs much better glass in order to get corner sharpness etc...guess thats why the 17-35 got discon.
i dont think the 24-70 needs replacing tho tongue.gif
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A prosumer constant aperture zoom and a couple of primes would be nice for the hobbyist actually.

In fact, the high end market is all FX already. If they're going to cannibalize their lower end DX with the Nikon 1, I'd be pretty sure that the mid end will start shifting upwards in response as an upgrade path from the Nikon 1. Look at the D7000, when it came out it practically rivalled or even some ways superceded the D300s in specs, and startled the heck out of Canon when their 60D came out. That there is proof that Nikon would be quite happy to get the jump on their competitor in each target market, hence the FX shift.

Then, I also think it's quite hard to continuously iterate the D300s in DX form. What more can you throw in? Improved video, a better AF system? When the D7000 already is close to the D300s in specs, the differentiator then becomes either number of pixels, or upping the size of the sensor.

Also, I believe that the target market for the D700s and the D800 is different in terms of the amount they are willing to pay and their requirements. Going through the bythom poll and the nikonrumors polls, you can see that the feedback is split in half. Half want the high res D800, some just want a D700s. It is quite possible to just keep a slightly improved D700 with the D3s sensor, and improvements from the D800. Simply by keeping the pricing where it currently is, the gaps in the lineup are filled. The people who want 36mpix will go for the D800, the people who don't need it go for the D700s. And I also think that simple economics can come into play. Sell more of the lower end camera and get higher profit instead of selling less of the higher end one. The current D700 demand is proof, even though the camera is considered last generation.

Well...thats just my 2c why the there would be a cheaper FX body. smile.gif


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post Apr 18 2012, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 18 2012, 01:29 AM)
well hes got no 50mm in his office to borrow.
technically the best choice would be the 18-200 set to 50-80mm for full length, but if the 70-200 is in there and he can choose that, by all means go take that tongue.gif
i'm not a fan of using wide angles for any form of portraits due to distortion.
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I'd agree with the 18-200. It's the most versatile of the bunch. If you went with the others, you would need at least 2 lenses like previously mentioned. In other news, somewhat cute girl.

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QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Apr 18 2012, 05:36 PM)
hi guys, any rumoured replacement for sb700?
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That flash is relatively new. I don't foresee a replacement any time soon. Just get one biggrin.gif
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post Apr 20 2012, 08:56 PM

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Can't stalk in low light though sad.gif tongue.gif


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post Apr 21 2012, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 20 2012, 11:24 PM)
low light just go in front, they wont notice our dark camera biggrin.gif
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As soon as you hear camera go "click clack", you better stick your tail between your legs and cabuts before a purse comes flying at your face

Pics pics pics (dowan grow fungus on camera maa)

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Damn wish I had some real high ISO capability. Sigh.
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post Apr 21 2012, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(kennexionz @ Apr 21 2012, 01:06 AM)
No Black Tie! hahaha u were there tonite for Natasha's performance?
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Unfortunately, nope! Damn sick, also didn't ask management so tak jadi....you got a good eye tho haha. Are you a jazz fan?
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post Apr 21 2012, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Apr 21 2012, 09:48 AM)
Done. 1,2,3, learn to see and flash workshop at nikon centre. 2 private workshop and numerous walkabout. In the end, still felt newbie at heart, its not like there's a photography degree to distinguish.

Busy at work la. Shooting star need regular update right?
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No worries man, if it's any consolation I never feel I'm ever good enough, or I feel I suck sad.gif Just keep doing what you love!
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Apr 21 2012, 12:04 PM)
Haha. If only they have photography toastmaster style. That would make things very interesting.

Personally I prefer mentoring, what u learn is only as good as what u ask.
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Curiously enough I met veteran photographer John Ishii in person last Friday, he also expressed that if you really are serious about learning more about photography, you gotta find a mentor and also shoot some personal projects. He was nice enough to layan me that day haha. But looking for a mentor is somewhat hard nowadays, with so many people roaming out and about shooting.
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post Apr 22 2012, 02:28 PM

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I can strongly recommend the think tank bags. Fantastically made (better quality than lowepro imo), sturdy construction, and very well designed. The only downside is the cost.....

Actually there is a Retrospective 5 and 7 if 10 is too big. But in reality the 10 isn't that large to start with. It's also very discreet.

I've used a Speed Racer V1 and currently use the Sling-O-Matic 20 as my shooting bag.
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post Apr 23 2012, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ Apr 23 2012, 01:54 AM)
some typical spider around the house ...
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Haha dude, you're really into macro of insects and stuff? Have you gone out jungle trekking to look for insects etc before? Got a friend who's into this, pretty hardcore at it to boot.

Everdying, where was this? It's a footsal tourney if I'm not wrong?
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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 23 2012, 08:18 PM)
icic....

i wonder if i use a grey color spray paint and paint on some prepaid card, can it be use as my grey card for white balance? laugh.gif
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safer to pick up a proper grey card to make sure it's actually middle grey, but I figure it won't hurt to try biggrin.gif Do report back!
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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ Apr 23 2012, 04:01 PM)
Hehe. Macro, insects, small items, products ... that's what I enjoy doing when I didn't go outing with friends.  (rarely go outing due to time constraints also  cry.gif )
Anyhow, it is easier coz can do it just at home & own time.  tongue.gif
Really inspired by those hardcore macro+insects photogs with awesome lenses ... can zoom in so much and with a lots of details intact ...
I'm just using cheapo setup + macro lens : d3100 + tamron SP AF90 + raynox filter ... taking macro+super macro is really damn tricky and tedious ...need patience.
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Kit is nice to have, more importantly your pics turn out nice and you enjoy what you're doing.

Haha for my friend, it's as what you say la, patience, time, and the will to go out hunting. I'm sure you'll be able to go out hunting for stuff soon enough!
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post Apr 24 2012, 12:20 PM

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I'm headed out to dataran this sat. I got activist friends there who are planning to camp out. Not sure of my plans yet though....gotta be really careful this time cause the police can have the area boxed in.
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Apr 24 2012, 12:22 PM)
How are u gonna go dataran this sat if all road and train block?


Added on April 24, 2012, 12:25 pm

Googled. wingsoon camera service but cant find any details.
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Therin lies the problem. Option 1 is to camp out with my friends. No real option 2.
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post Apr 25 2012, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Apr 25 2012, 08:46 AM)
I still love my d300 (consoling myself not to change camera bodies)!

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Sweet, it's got this "out of this world" feel biggrin.gif How'd you get 2 moons in there?

Rikef, I liked going from D60 to D90, the increase in picture quality and additional control was worth it. Maybe now you'd like to go to D7000 instead tho.
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QUOTE(gnome @ Apr 25 2012, 03:00 PM)
Oh yeah finally found someone who sells Kodak Portra 400 films rclxm9.gif but RM32 per roll sweat.gif  laugh.gif
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whoa. How much does it cost to have it developed and scanned as well?
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post Apr 25 2012, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(sokdotcom @ Apr 25 2012, 10:59 PM)
I tried outdoor also. same problem.
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Really? That's odd. Try this:

Fluorescent lighting : shoot at 1/60, cause that's the cycle the light flickers (or 1/30, that's half cycle). Keep on shutter priority.

If outdoors same prob, try with a different copy of the lens. I am not sure how you get the cast problem.


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