QUOTE(radio_head @ Mar 25 2012, 07:49 AM)
Using one of the top 5 excuses ar.....hmmm im still searching for "keeper on God mode" and "liverpool dont spend as much as club X, how to win?, when liverpool do spend more then club X, its cause its for "transition" "
kapitano vidic out for the season, what happens? our twit player, jonny evans stepped up. and stepped up well. If a club would miss those players of "quality", then the club should ensure the players do not get banned for doing stupid things, ie racial abuse, one finger salute.
how is it that liverpool "didnt exactly play badly". how can a team lose to QPR and Wigan, wigan who havent got out of relegation zone for 5-6 months? QPR whose form is shit.....may i please have your definition of "playing badly"?
when is it that liverpool plays badly? when they concede 10 goals a game then only can classify as badly? Lose to wigan at home is....not EXACTLY bad.
I never said anything about keepers having a blinder. Yeah, I think money plays a big part in football now. Liverpool are a team in transition and your point is?
Take a break and look at the facts properly. Liverpool spent 100 million last season but unfortunately for them, they are spending and competiting in an era where Man United, Man City and Chelsea are also spending.
Take a look at your United ...
Juan Veron £28,100,000
Ruud Van Nistelrooy £19,000,000
Rio Ferdinand £27,550,000
Cristiano Ronaldo £12,200,000 (for a teenager)
Wayne Rooney £27,000,000
Michael Carrick £18,600,000
Anderson £15,000,000
Owen Hargreaves £17,000,000
Nani €25.5 million
Demitar Berbatov £30,750,000
I excluded Antonio Valencia (£16,000,000), Phil Jones (£17,000,000), David De Gea £(18,900,000), Ashley Young (£17,000,000) because they came after Ronaldo left for 80 million. Point is, your club has been spending way more money than anyone since 2001 so obviously your team is more settled by the time year 2008 came.
If you're thinking Liverpool can compete with just 100 million spend (and thats 50 million coming from Torres), you must be deluded. United spent over 200 million pounds on the players above without selling anyone (before Ronaldo's depature).
So what the hell are you going on about the "racial abuse" and one finger salute? First of all, there is still no concrete evidence that Suarez racially abused him, it was just that liar Evra's word against Suarez and the FA believed Evra (no surprises there) and one finger salute .. stop being a baby. I'm sure you do it in real like and Suarez isn't the first to have done and and certainly isn't the last. Rooney did it but escape any punishment. Gary Neville did it and also escape punishment. Once again, no surprises there as well.
Definition of playing badly is when the team doesn't turn up. I didn't watch the game last night but Liverpool had more possession and more shots. Stats can be misleading but they do tell a story as well. Definition of playing badly is example, Bolton beating Liverpool, Sunderland 1-0 Liverpool, Spurs 4-0 Liverpool. Liverpool played well enough against QPR to win the game but somehow some shit just happened in the last 13 minutes. Obviously losing at home (in fact, not winning at home at all is a bad result) but we are talking about "playing" i.e. performance, not result.
Now, move along, you Liverpool-obsessed, Manc.
QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 25 2012, 11:01 AM)
If season start 2012, Liv will be in the relegation battle.
I don't know KD is the man or not, but tactic wise, for me is totally wrong, you don't play 1 striker upfront against a relegation battle team, and a team seldom keep a clean sheet one.
I don't see hunger and urgency to win the game. All head down only after conceding.
You make the choice to buy, how to play, you shoulder the blame, if the player no good, manager is the responsible to bring in the player in the first place.
Manager decided how to play, when you play 1 upfront, and the rest of players are not interested to join in to attack for go into penalty box when cross come in, how to score?
Often I see many players stay outside of penalty box when attack from the flank by fullback, how to score like that?
It is not the like the club has no money to pay for new recruit, whereby manager hand is tight and limited choice. 40-50 million had been spent, and cannot even win against relegation battle team
s, it is not one off poor game, but a string of poor result since 2012 start.
Play poorly against Bolton, Sunderland, Wigan, even Cardiff.
Everton, Sunderland hardly got money to spend one, only 2 points below, even Newcastle is performing way better than what Liv had shown.
Fair enough about the tactics. I never personally felt that KD gets all his tactics right (he's human afterall) but in the last 14 months, I've seen enough and I know enough of him that he should be given more than just one season. I understand the league season is a disaster and there's no doubt about it but as I've said many times before, we've not got more points than we actually deserved. I know football is not about 'deserve or not' but the majority of the performances, especially in the first half, shown that we can play and we are NOT THAT bad. It's just that we lack goals and that has cost us.
Agree. The manager makes the choice of buying a player, setting up the formation, telling the tactics and all but at the end of the day the players go out on the pitch to play, not the manager. I highly doubt KD actually tells the team "Downing, you put a cross in and Suarez, I only want you in the box while the rest of you wait outside". I'm sure he doesn't say that.
When it comes to good positions in the game, it's up to the player to decide how he wants to shoot the ball, how he wants to pass, where he wants to put it and stuff. KD definitely doesn't say 'Look Suarez, please hit the woodwork twice today'.
I agree that the league is unacceptable at the moment especially since the turn of the year. In fact, there's a possibility that this season may end up even worse than last season but King Kenny, as the Anfield faithful call him, has won trophies, titles, doubles as a player and as a manager. He's probably the most Liverpool-like person we have at the moment and he deserves the support of the fans and to give him time.
Remember, after the 2009/2010 season, many fans called for Rafa Benitez's head and look what we got? Roy Hodgson who brought very average players like Konchesy and Poulsen to the squad, insulted the fans and players in public, set us up to play eye hurting football and brought the club down to one of the lowest positions in my life as a fan. The league form under Kenny is FAR from ideal but there's a difference between last saeson and this season - we've got the League cup in the bag, we're in the FA Cup semi final and we've qualfieid for Europe.
Mar 24 2012, 12:08 AM, updated 14y ago
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Thankfully KD & SC realize their tactical flaws recently (though a little late) and opt for a more direct play. The HEAVY investment on HG talents & potentials aren't really reaping much either and look unconvincing at times.
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