20 mins to go...

Even Uncle Roy's West Brom?

This guy reminds me of El Zhar.

With budget constraint, Rafa had bought many world class players, Torres, Alonso, Mascherano and Reina.
Let's not forget our current players like Agger and Skrtel were signed by Rafa too.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...-Liverpool.html
http://www.empireofthekop.com/anfield/2009...rafael-benitez/

We got £50million from the sale of Fernando Torres, which is £30million pure profit.

I enjoyed reading at Liverpool.fc message boards.
They have the similar debates like we have here.

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Added on March 26, 2012, 4:49 pmInteresting.
Look at the league table, our league position, the stats of our players (i.e. top goal scorers) etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%93...ool_F.C._season
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%93...son#Top_scorers

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Mar 26 2012, 04:49 PM

I read messages at liverpool.fc forum.
I have mixed feelings. Many different opinions there.
Kenny is the legend. Some said many teams are still below us. No one is bigger than the club. Rafa is the one. Huddink is the one. Bielsa is the one. Mourinho is the one. Leg humping. Glory hunter. Kenny deserves another season. Rome isnt built in a day etc etc etc...

Well, are we supposed to be mid-table?
How many mid-table teams have the luxurious 100million transfer kit?
Obviously we screw up big time.
Many have the feelings that KK is losing the dressing room. Questionable signings and tactics.
I feel disgusted when teams with lesser transfer kit are now ahead of us.
It shows we spent the 100millions on rubbish players (let the result speak for itself).
Or we just dumped that 100millions into the tong sampah (do we seem like building Rome?)
And Man U is on the way for the number 20.

Even if we can win the remaining matches, this could still be the worst league position we have in the past 10 years.
IMO, if we lost in FA cup semi-final match, I think King Kenny should go.

Sad day...

(100 millions gone. Someone please create the Hitler video clip and post it on youtube)

Last I checked, we lived the spirit of YNWA at the support for the club.
Managers that couldn't deliver the result were sacked.

I guess Harry did not expect to spend 100millions to be a mid-table team.
I think that is too much to swallow.

We didn't give Roy much time too.

Don't let the legend cloud our judgement.
He should deliver the result. We don't ask for EPL champion but at least a reasonable result and league position.

That 100 millions signings have caused a lot of damage. None of the players seems good.
I doubt we will have another 100 millions to build the Rome.
Neither we have another 50 millions player to sell.

Fergie achieved good league position during his first full year EPL in 1987/88.
He made good signings.

1988/89, Fergie brought the team to 3rd place & also title challenger at one stage. Too many draws cost them the season.
1989/90 was the worst year. But obviously the board of directors acknowledged Fergie's contribution in coaching and scout system. Part of the reasons of the poor run was caused by absence of key players due to injury.

http://www.sportamok.com/football-soccer/t...eague-1987-1988
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Ferguson


Points to ponder.
1) Fergie brought MU to No.2 spot during his 1st full season as manager.
2) He made good signings.
3) Fergie had had good coaching and scout system. The board acknowledged that.

(enough rant about Fergie)

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Apr 2 2012, 10:03 AM

You make King Kenny look like an innocent bystander.
Illogical. Beyond comprehension.

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Added on April 7, 2012, 11:06 amHalf truth.

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Added on April 7, 2012, 11:08 amWe can't blame the owner of the club this time (like we blamed the previous 2 American owners).
For he allowed KK to spend 100millions on players.

(Managers are always blamed for delivering poor results)

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Apr 7 2012, 11:17 AM

How many times we had ugly display (including the Carling Cup final vs Cardiff City)?
If the players are not able to convert chances into goals, those are poor players. Questionable signings.
There is a problem in tactics too.

We are in a very embarrassing position, where Newcastle are now ahead of us by 10 points.
Everton, one that has no transfer budget, is ahead of us too.
We just spent 100million for a poor league position.
It is fair to let the league position speak for itself.

Rafa couldn't play him because he was injured. Thus it was half truth.
Gerrard is fragile too. He has no played well due to injury for many seasons now.

To be honest, Aquilani was not given a chance by both Roy and KK.
We fans were very excited to see Aquilani play during pre-season games.


Questionable signings. Questionable tactics. Poor results.
Blame owner? Managers? Or the players?
Owner can't take the blame this time. We have not seen our previous owners splashed 100 millions in a single season (our previous owners pocketed the money from the sale of players).
Manager to blame. Players too. Many pointed out we have signed too many mid-table team players (thus we ended like mid-table team. Wait, we spent big bucks on mid-table players).
Look at the past, managers take most of the blame. I don't see exceptional case this time.
You said KK is not blameless. Yet you think he is a scapegoat. It's contradicting.
Scapegoat? As I said, look at the result, let it speak for itself.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Apr 7 2012, 01:25 PM

For me, ManC put a wrong man in charge.
ManC squad has so much depth as compared to our team.

ManC spent 100millions on Gareth Barry, Roque Santa Cruz, Kolo Touré, Emmanuel Adebayor, Carlos Tévez and Joleon Lescott.
It makes perfect sense as compared to our 100 million signings.

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Added on April 7, 2012, 6:18 pmWe have the worst league position in 10 years.
Speaking of Suarez, he netted 16 goals since he first joined Liverpool.
Look at the stats, no good.

Every manager deserves a chance.
Those who can't deliver result should go.
We spent 100 millions for poor league position. Are we going to have another 100 millions to spend?
For me, KK has done a huge damage.

He was unfit. Rafa was sacked and did not have a chance to play him.
Roy shipped him out on loan. Likewise, KK.

I think we all repeated the same points too. Just different stance.
Scapegoat? Look at the league position and the signings.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Apr 7 2012, 06:18 PM

For me, if KK can win the FA cup, I personally think he deserves another season.
We need results to justify that.

Fergie brought ManU to 2nd place during his first full season in charge as manager.
His coaching and scout system had convinced the owner and it was justified to give him the job.

Lucas, he was young and was one of the most cursed players when he first joined Liverpool.
He was just a backup, as the first team was Mascherano.
We didnt need Lucas to step up as we had better players in our squad (depth of the squad).

Look at our starting line up and the depth of our squad, are we getting better or worst?
100 millions "questionable" signings.

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Added on April 7, 2012, 8:45 pmHenry is a businessman.
No businessman would like to spend 100 millions for a poorer league position.
It is just too much to swallow.

IMO, he keeps quiet because he is just simply speechless (after seeing teams with lesser transfer budget sit higher than us in Premier League).
Besides, I think the Carling Cup saved KK.
Without the Carling Cup, I bet KK would have sacked by now.

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Added on April 7, 2012, 9:05 pmIf my memory serves me right, Charlie Adam was very good at long range shot (thunderbolt) at Blackpool.
He consistently gave the opponents threats when he played for Blackpool.

What changed that?
He got carried away? Poor form? Wrong team tactic?

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Apr 7 2012, 09:17 PM

Silky smooth here.
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/117458/...ston-villa.html

http://www.asssportsnet.com/p/stream2.html

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Added on April 7, 2012, 10:56 pmThere is still 45min to go.
Keep the faith.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Apr 7 2012, 10:56 PM

F-ck the god-like keeper, f-ck the goal post.

We need the f-cking god-like finisher instead, who can beat the god-like keeper and goal post.

Looking at the depth of our squad, he could be the best we have now.

I just pointed out that's the depth of our squad. I didn't blame him. I really meant it.
With the absence of Lucas and Adam, he is a better choice as compared to Spearing and Sterling.