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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Liverpool 2-1 Everton- FA CUP FINAL NEXT

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Rotuham
post Mar 24 2012, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Mar 24 2012, 12:16 AM)
Where did you guys get the news about Adam out for the season? =.=
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...nee-injury.html

It's a blessing in disguise actually.Shelvey will get game time now and sterling will be promoted to the bench.


Added on March 24, 2012, 5:36 pm
QUOTE(faizdtk @ Mar 24 2012, 01:37 PM)
Raheem Sterling is still young. His age is about 17 or 18. He need to be patience and wait for his chance.
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Michael owen,rooney and messi made their breakthrough roughly around this age.There is no better time to give sterling a chance.Shelvey should be playing regularly like henderson.We have nothing to lose at this point.

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post Mar 24 2012, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Mar 24 2012, 06:02 PM)
Agree, talent like these cant be 'rushed' else a burnout or some sorts. Unless he one of hellava talent like messi, maradona, or pele.

His mum must not be lured by 'cites of false greatness'  tongue.gif  I don't like such meddling (treatenning to leave), even if he succeed here, getting into First team, when it comes to contract negotiations, vultures may plant Rubbish to lure him away
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Steven gerrard and robbie fowler made their debut at 18 as well.My question is if we dont play him now when will he get his chance? I remember krisztian nemeth supposed to be the next best thing since owen but he failed here because he wasn't given a proper chance.
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post Mar 24 2012, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(anip94 @ Mar 24 2012, 07:19 PM)
THIS.
you all say use player this use player that (sterling la, suso lah), while only watching some compilations vids on youtube.
coaches and manager knows better! as they monitor them at training everyday.
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perhaps.But we have nothing to lose at this point in the league anymore and we can rest our so called ''stars'' for the fa cup.
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post Mar 25 2012, 12:02 AM

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f*** kuyt,henderson and downing.Bring on sterling carroll and shelvey.
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post Mar 25 2012, 01:05 AM

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Carroll comes in we score.He is doing defending job instead of carra.Should have started with him.As long as kenny keeps repeating this mistake we will NEVER win.Carroll+Suarez+Gerrard is the way to go.

Like i said,sterling should be given game time.But this doesn't mean he should be starting the next game.It's true what heizad said just now that if we play him too much he will suffer from burnout.Kenny should gradually increase his game time.

Shelvey looking more like gerrard successor rather than henderson.

Seriously,our youngsters show more promise than our so called stars. sweat.gif

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post Mar 25 2012, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Mar 25 2012, 01:07 AM)
No boos this time  laugh.gif

Wonder if we will be getting new gaffer/new player this end of season if this continue... Doubt the yanks will be happy for an 8th after the money spent. sweat.gif
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There were boos at the final whistle.
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post Mar 25 2012, 01:21 AM

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Before people start calling for rafa,plz be reminded that he is much worse and obstinate.His substitutions are in the 85th minute and 90minutes.Rafa will make us play negative football again which i dont want.At least kenny realises his mistake fast enough and brought carroll on at half time.Rafa would never do that.
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post Mar 25 2012, 03:05 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 25 2012, 01:26 AM)
Rafa even with many said negativity football, did not has the same as worst situation now, nor the same worst scoring record as currently has, if not mistaken.
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Rafa started our ''out of champions league'' rot.Bringing him back will only make things worse.
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post Mar 25 2012, 06:16 AM

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QUOTE(Adryan @ Mar 25 2012, 05:59 AM)
This is getting ridiculous.

Two wins, two draws and SEVEN defeats from 11 games in 2012.

The squad is definitely not good enough. They lack that mentality and hunger to even want to get anything out of a football game. I'd play Shelvey, Sterling and alot of other youngsters now because they actually do much better than the majority of the shit we put out and especially since our players are 'tired'.

While Kenny does make questionable substitutions and starting eleven choices, I have no doubt that I believe he is still the man to lead the Reds. I've seen enough of him and know enough about him, that he can make things happen for this club.

You can't blame Kenny Dalglish when our strikers don't score or we can't defend a simple ball.

I'm aware maybe he hasn't signed the right players but he's only human and humans make mistakes. He isn't stupid and he'll rectify this mistake in the summer if he believes it is right.

Kenny Dalglish isn't the problem. The problem is the overpaid British prima donnas who have let him down big time.

One of his biggest mistake this season is not bringing in a striker who can score goals in January and that has cost us even a remote chance of getting a top four slot. Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez are not going to score 20 goals each.
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Is it as simple as bringing in a striker and it would solve all of our problems?Even someone as prolific as suarez is struggling to score in liverpool.Is it suarez's inability or the team's inability? Before you answer,can we agree that suarez was/is prolific for ajax and uruguay?Why is it only in liverpool that he struggles to score?

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post Mar 25 2012, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 25 2012, 08:08 AM)
A poor game considering we were playing at home. One would have expected the team to bounce back especially against a Wigan side who were distinctively average. If anything we failed to capitalise on this by isolating Suarez up front on his own in the first half. I would have thought that given the circumstances, we'd have started with two strikers, adopting a more positive looking formation. By the time we went behind and had to chase the game, Wigan were literally defending with 11 men in their own half.

Adryan, ignore the manc. He'll go into hiding again if they end up winning feckall at the end of the season. Typical of a club whose mantra is based only on winning.
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I am interested to hear your views now on suarez playing alone up top.
You advocated this throughout the season.

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post Mar 25 2012, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(bitebug @ Mar 25 2012, 03:03 PM)
In case you didn't see. He is (was) amazing indeed.
Only Torres was worth more than 20 million. And here we have 3 players who we spent more than 75 million to get.... doh.gif
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Add robbie keane,morientes,voronin,el zhar,nunez,dossena,aurelio(glass),pennant,zenden,jovanovic,babel,ngog,mark gonzalez,momo sissoko rolleyes.gif

Seriously,if you guys think kenny is failure then rafa will be a failure as well because you are going back to the past for managers.Rafa was great up to 08/09 but he lost the plot after that.Of course HG are to blame but rafa went to inter and screwed up there as well.If the manager job becomes vacant i wouldn't want rafa back for now until he goes somewhere else and proves himself again.

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post Mar 25 2012, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Mar 25 2012, 03:26 PM)
@Rotuham:

You're not entirely wrong, but Rafa's success has something to do with what King Kenny is lacking right now: the right guy to do the right training when it comes to fitness

After Pako Ayestaran broke up with Rafa (they had several wonderful seasons together, its just like S.Clarke and J.Mourinho during their time in Chelsea) Rafa was literally managing everything on his own. Pako Ayestaran was his most trusted right hand man, but nothing much has been said about why they went separate ways, but one article insists that Rafa said "Pako betrayed him (Rafa)".

I wonder.


Added on March 25, 2012, 3:32 pm
yeah, you manc inside a liverpool supporter's thread. Go back now, would you? we don't need two-headed snakes, the likes of you here.
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I actually think our medical team is better than what it was a few years ago.We are much more cautious and don't rush players back like what rafa used to do.Which was why gerrard and torres were injured frequently.

Our defence was great until agger went out injured.Johnson was out but it didnt really affect us badly because kelly was there.Now both rb are out and our defence is leaking goals like earlier in the season.The main culprit here is carragher.

but i agree rafa's backroom team was much better than kenny's currently.I don't know what steve kean has done since coming here.Steve clarke is the exception to this which is reflected on our defence this season.

I am pretty sure that reina's dip in form in the past two seasons has to do with the departure of xavi valero.

Xavi valero was crucial to us just like pako was. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavi_Valero




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post Mar 25 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 25 2012, 03:36 PM)
You have answer your own.

Don't get me wrong,
I am not calling KD to be sacked, nor want Rafa back.

But as compared, at current display since the start of 2012, it is very very poor, much poorer than Rafa era, be it result wise or performance, tactic wise, club, players and manager should shoulder the blame.
Poor is poor, don't need to find excuse for it, but sort it out and rectify the situation.
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Kenny's mistake now is persisting with 4-5-1 formation and favouritism for the likes of adam and henderson.Adam isn't LFC material and henderson shouldn't be playing 90minutes every game at his age.If kenny realises his mistake i can pretty much guarantee we will get our season back on track soon enough.Adryan gave us our form guide in the previous page when carroll started and didn't start.Is it a surprise?I sounded like a broken record stating these as nobody understood me for the past few months sad.gif

With agger,johnson,kelly and bellamy to return i think we can still salvage this season with a top 6 finish.Contrary to what most think,we stand a good chance of making it to the finals of the FA cup as we do well in the cup games.
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post Mar 25 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Mar 25 2012, 03:52 PM)
which was why the new medical team from Australia was Rafa's last signing, but of course Roy got the credits for them.
Rafa had a very good backstaff.

KD doesn't. He started from scratch.

I still believe in Rafalution. Had we kept him even under the earlier Yankees, we might have a better team today.
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Hmmm,i didn't know the medical team was rafa's signing.when did this happen?

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post Mar 25 2012, 07:40 PM

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Lifeless douchebags invading the thread again.This thread is for five times european champions.Three times champions only that way>>>>>>>
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post Mar 25 2012, 08:03 PM

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Anyway guys,did i not say i rate shelvey higher than henderson?He's 10 times cheaper than henderson and younger as well.

Adam's injury is a blessing in disguise for shelvey.He looks commanding and towards the end he was in line to take the free kick ahead of even gerrard.We need more brave players like shelvey.


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QUOTE(Wan @ Mar 25 2012, 08:02 PM)
Never knew it's for Liverpool fans only. It's a public forum where everyone is free to post, unless they are obviously WUMming here, which they would be dealt with by the mods.

KD may be a legend in the past but his whole actions in the Suarez saga and his handling of things in the media showed how out of touch he is with current times. Might as well kept Hodgson if all KD can do with the same squad plus 100m investment is 42points at this current stage of the season.
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Yeah,free to post with the intention to mock,insult and rile the fans here.Don't get me started on your manager.If other club managers came out to condemn KD regarding the issue i would have understood.But they didn't.I can't tolerate ''Saint'' Alex Ferguson trying to take the moral ground.Your history of bad players have been much worse.

You don't have to tell us who to appoint or keep.Mind your own business.You don't need to come here to talk about liverpool.I thought you guys were already doing that alot in your pathetic excuse for a thread.

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post Mar 26 2012, 01:26 AM

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The day manu fans stop obssessing about liverpool will be the day it snows here in malaysia.
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post Mar 28 2012, 06:40 PM

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Bitters it is then for the semi final.If we play 4-5-1 again this season,kenny better step down. sweat.gif
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post Mar 29 2012, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Mar 29 2012, 02:30 AM)
we can do them a big help by giving moral support instaed of being a shebby singh
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This is no excuse for underperforming.Instead of admitting we have been poor and need to get their act together,every week a player comes out and waxes lyrical about how we made 'progress'.Shut up already and do the talking on the pitch.Wearing the liverpool badge should be enough motivation for them to perform.If that's not enough,they have top training facilities to maintain their fitness and they are being paid weekly a sum that most people wouldn't earn in one year.

If they can't do it,just GTFO of the club.

This week it's enrique's turn http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...on-lfc-progress

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post Mar 30 2012, 12:02 AM

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Today is kenny's turn.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...s-at-all-levels

Who will it be tomorrow? hmm.gif
Can't be adam,downing or enrique because they have already done it.I am guessing it's gonna be gerrard or carragher.

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