QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 27 2012, 11:26 AM)
I have in my closest circle of friends, 4 Man Utd fans. Out of the 4, two read and therefore know the club's history. One of them even follows RAWK which is a Liverpool forum, just to know more about us. Respect. He knows more about Liverpool and what does on day to day than most Liverpool fans. Not shy meh? One other only watches games when it's convenient and the other doesn't watch at all but still "celebrates" when they win. Go figure. Younger fans in general don't find knowing a club's history important. I know this because I started a "Real Fan" thread sometime back and the general opinion was that history isn't important. Watching every game is. Well I beg to differ but there isn't a need to get into this again. Therefore I think it's safe to assume that the reason many of us think Malaysian Man Utd fans in particular don't know jack about the club's history is because they comprise mainly of younger fans (due to "recent" success), and in this day and age, younger fans in general don't think the past is important. You'll note that many younger Liverpool fans don't even know the lyrics to YNWA, let alone know about our history. Those that do read need to do their best to educate and stress the importance of needing to know about our past especially as Liverpool fans. It's sometimes hard to do so however without sounding condescending especially when they are reluctant to listen.
Like you I enjoy friendy banter with not older, but more seasoned Man Utd supporters. I feel that many don't even understand why we hate the other, and this dates back to the days when both port cities were fighting for economic superiority. A lot of the hate you feel these days are manufactured. Fans were thought to hate the other without truly realising why? The reason that trolls are mostly Man Utd supporters is because they are the current dominant force in the league and therefore have a bigger number of younger supporters, which makes up the majority of posters in this forum. Older fans tend to stay away or post less frequently because it's really hard to have a decent discussion with someone who knows nuts about their club or has only a very basic understanding of the game. Sadly, now that clubs are whoring themselves to a global audience and portraying themselves as a brand, you get a lot more of this kind around. Fans who support the club but don't watch games. Eh?
The problem is, the way I see it, Man Utd fans (read fans not the team itself) has problems with every other teams that came in their way, not just Liverpool and that happened just like others said, because of arrogant. Hence, ABU was popularized. They are in good position under SAF and honestly speaking, those fans never really tested and supporting a strong team was easy. Just go to other teams thread and see which teams fans troll much more than the others. I have both real life Man Utd and Liverpool friends. In fact, im surrounded by them more than any other clubs. I have no problems to discuss with intellect but when it involved inadequate knowledge and troll, i just walked away. Thats better than having a real life friend unfriended me on facebook coz he thought I chose side, when all I did was joking around on the wall. True story.Like you I enjoy friendy banter with not older, but more seasoned Man Utd supporters. I feel that many don't even understand why we hate the other, and this dates back to the days when both port cities were fighting for economic superiority. A lot of the hate you feel these days are manufactured. Fans were thought to hate the other without truly realising why? The reason that trolls are mostly Man Utd supporters is because they are the current dominant force in the league and therefore have a bigger number of younger supporters, which makes up the majority of posters in this forum. Older fans tend to stay away or post less frequently because it's really hard to have a decent discussion with someone who knows nuts about their club or has only a very basic understanding of the game. Sadly, now that clubs are whoring themselves to a global audience and portraying themselves as a brand, you get a lot more of this kind around. Fans who support the club but don't watch games. Eh?
And yeah more attitude from the fans because there are more of them. Liv has 8.8mil on facebook. MU has 23.6 mil. Need say more?
Mar 27 2012, 11:58 AM

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