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 GENNEVA MALAYSIA, some facts.., READ and UNDERSTAND

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post Oct 3 2012, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(HighRoller84 @ Oct 3 2012, 11:58 PM)
Jib worrying about submarine got time to worry about scam company?
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got budget 2013 also.

now now, the topic is on Genneva. Don't derail the thread blush.gif
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QUOTE(HighRoller84 @ Oct 3 2012, 11:42 PM)
Very clever Jason. rclxms.gif

Anyway, hope the kopitam readers come to this thread to read from the first page about genNEVER.
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wondering wat reaction of those vvip who involved in genneva investment.
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There were word when coaxing ppl tp buy that this company belongs to Dr M, Daim & Najib, how true is it will never be known
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QUOTE(Garmin_GPS @ Oct 4 2012, 12:02 AM)
wondering wat reaction of those vvip who involved in genneva investment.
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as long as u made money, and got your physical gold, u no need worry. VVIP for sure gets their gold early.

just those...still waiting rolleyes.gif
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I have to salute celicaizpower thumbup.gif he so stubborn say he not scamming others to invest in his 'guarantee' scheme
but there is no consistency in profit for high risk stake gambling, managing loss is part and parcel of the game brows.gif
anyway, he got more guts and balls keeping to his 'quicksand ground' than those genneva management nod.gif
they need to hire celicaizpower as PR director rclxms.gif

look at all those genneva deluded souls shakehead.gif
http://www.facebook.com/GennevaWorld
till todate, no one from the top has spoken out nor even stand up for them, not even their punjabi lawyer cum out to giv reassuring statements laugh.gif
I bet everyone would be laughing at this tense moment after looking at his face, if celicaizpower was genneva PR director

ok, since we're all adults here, I believe we can smell ponzi or non ponzi stuff, we leave zack with his own siggy smile.gif he also need to cari makan
anyone fall for it, then caveat emptor lah... eg. those in genneva still are deluded, its all KAPUT liao, learn to live with it and move on whistling.gif
btw lets giv celicaizpower a break la, his entire history and even tel no. is displayed for the whole world to see along with his hobby shocking.gif
but he better dun spread his advertisement in genneva thread or another round of gang-bang will cum biggrin.gif

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post Oct 4 2012, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Oct 3 2012, 11:35 PM)
Judging from the comment on the last 2-3 pages or so, seems that everyone has given up on Genneva and proceed to some other discussion  laugh.gif

Back to Genneva..... thumbup.gif

I read in the newspaper today that some customers and agents are claiming Genneva is a legitimate business and asking BNM to allow the company to re-open. Openly declaring this, they effectively are losing all together their legal recourse against the directors of the company for negligence in management of company's business which caused financial lost to the stakeholders and customers

So, to those customers and agents who are still in support of the Company, do think it over before taking sides. Which action is better ?

1. Support company ? hoping pressure from the 6000 customers and agents will lead BNM to declare Genneva is all well ?
2. Get together and initiate a class action to sue the people behind the company for their negligence and/or mismanagement of assets ? Even possibility of defrauding customers ?

BNM will not budge. That is a foregone conclusion. Hence, fat hope on option 1.

Option 2 has a better chance (even higher chance if the boss are very wealthy) given the current circumstances. It would be in the better interest of the customers and agents to get their acts together. Argue and present facts of the business. If there are some "upper" management who were previously involved in decision making, and are now willing to give some insider information, that will certainly make your case a lot stronger.

It is not a time to get emotional. You all got to manage the crisis and find the best course of action to redeem the money rightfully yours
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Back to Genneva..... thumbup.gif <-- Agreed. thumbup.gif

I think this investigation can end in 3 ways.

1. Either BNM leaves the company alone and let them run BAU and save the face of the King, Dr. M, YAM and Kak Ros.

or

2. Hold the investigation as long as possible to protect those mention people.

or

3. Re-open the company for BAU (save the mentioned people's faces) and perform investigation and correct back what is wrong (if any).

Out of those 3, answer 3 will be the WIN-WIN situation.

QUOTE(barry80 @ Oct 3 2012, 11:46 PM)
saw them seeking help from najib  blink.gif some even said he's a reasonable men & symbol f rakyat?

i wonder those Singaporean will seek for Lee Hsien Loong for help or not  hmm.gif

if xiao lee ignore them, then xiao lee not a reasonable men & symbol f rakyat?
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I can some what assume if Ah Jib kor comes in and re-opens the company there might be a very high potential that he will gain 60K voters. smile.gif


This post has been edited by celicaizpower: Oct 4 2012, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 3 2012, 12:31 PM)
But based on what you just wrote, arent u walking down that same path? U say others are arguing without facts but how many facts have you provided yourself? From what ive read on this thread, many ppl have raised questions which have until now gone unanswered. Its pointless coming out here claiming to be mature and yet you go around calling others names. If you want others to respect you, then earn that respect. Argue like an adult.
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Read my previous post!! Don bla bla bla! Do your homework before bla bla bla! You are just lazy to check and just pick one post and start your ignorant comment! Better you don reply bcos you are just a lazy blogger. If there are ten of you like this, i have to repeat 10 times. posts are still there in the pages, so go back and read what a blogger has said before. That is your job before you comment.....are you really a blogger or just a cheap shot! Tis what irritates people. No wonder it is the same old people blogging in concerted effort. my friends told me so!
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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 4 2012, 01:25 AM)
I shall take this as a compliment. Thanks Bro  thumbup.gif

I too agree with you, Genneva should put a face through times like this so that their customers/investors are protected or at least feel like the company is helping them.

Besides the above I heard from my friend (A Genneva Agent) a few things today about Genneva..

1. They are going to call BNM hotline and bug the crap out of them for this case number 1300885465 in hopes that BNM will expedite the investigation.

2. A rally to protest the seizure of Genneva.

I think no 1 is already happening and no 2 is going to happen with in the next 2 weeks.
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QUOTE(learn2earn8 @ Oct 4 2012, 12:47 AM)
I have to salute celicaizpower  thumbup.gif he so stubborn say he not scamming others to invest in his 'guarantee' scheme
but there is no consistency in profit for high risk stake gambling, managing loss is part and parcel of the game 
anyway, he got more guts and balls keeping to his 'quicksand ground' than those genneva management
they need to hire celicaizpower as PR director

look at all those genneva deluded souls 
http://www.facebook.com/GennevaWorld
till todate, no one from the top has spoken out nor even stand up for them, not even their punjabi lawyer cum out to giv reassuring statements
I bet everyone would be laughing at this tense moment after looking at his face, if celicaizpower was genneva PR director 

ok, since we're all adults here, I believe we can smell ponzi or non ponzi stuff, we leave zack with his own siggy  he also need to cari makan 
anyone fall for it, then caveat emptor lah... eg. those in genneva still are deluded, its all KAPUT liao, learn to live with it and move on  whistling.gif
btw lets giv celicaizpower a break la, his entire history and even tel no. is displayed for the whole world to see along with his hobby  shocking.gif
but he better dun spread his advertisement in genneva thread or another round of gang-bang will cum  biggrin.gif
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I shall take this as a compliment. Thanks Bro thumbup.gif

I too agree with you, Genneva should put a face through times like this so that their customers/investors are protected or at least feel like the company is helping them.

Besides the above I heard from my friend (A Genneva Agent) a few things today about Genneva..

1. They are going to call BNM hotline and bug the crap out of them for this case number 1300885465 in hopes that BNM will expedite the investigation.

2. A rally to protest the seizure of Genneva.

I think no 1 is already happening and no 2 is going to happen with in the next 2 weeks.
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gee... my england mus be extremely bad sad.gif
anyway, how cum no investors take the trouble to find out wat happen to genneva part 1, 2 & 3
some more, all complain all same stories, money for tiution and medical all stuck, are they reading from the same CONsultant script brows.gif
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/money-mi...3861300-42.html

I know can't laugh but the situation reminded me of a time many moons ago before a condo project kena abandon cry.gif
as the project got delayed, the management started sending out letters that they will pay LAD
they claim that cost of raw material high, cannot find workers & etc. they say no worries & blah blah
the letter unsigned and stated 'from the management', most likely mus be the same punjabi lawyer advising them to scam again vmad.gif

QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 4 2012, 01:25 AM)
I shall take this as a compliment. Thanks Bro  thumbup.gif

I too agree with you, Genneva should put a face through times like this so that their customers/investors are protected or at least feel like the company is helping them.

Besides the above I heard from my friend (A Genneva Agent) a few things today about Genneva..

1. They are going to call BNM hotline and bug the crap out of them for this case number 1300885465 in hopes that BNM will expedite the investigation.

2. A rally to protest the seizure of Genneva.

I think no 1 is already happening and no 2 is going to happen with in the next 2 weeks.
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If people cant learn from past history/experience, let them be.

advises have been given. We can't stop those people who want to get rich.

Scan & win, we've read so many news from the paper, media..etc. But how the hell these people still get scammed? GREED. These victims thought they were so lucky to win big money at the first place.
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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 3 2012, 10:27 PM)
Jezz man, now I really wonder what the hell have I done to you. Is all this "hate" in you because of the team? Remember bro, I sponsored the court, I paid for the shuttles that you guys play for... and I never claim a cent from you[SIZE=7][COLOR=red]. (bukan nak berkira, tapi nak remind). Btw the team tak jadi cause we didn't get any men veteran and any ladies for the team. if you don't know the status la.

How do I make myself a sohai? what's up with me, I have a life, I know it's not that great but I am trying & so far so good la... so what's up with that?
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If sponser from bottom of the heart....why the reminder??

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Seriously??? got march? hopfully kena teargas and put some senses into them.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/genneva-mala...275561055895126
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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 4 2012, 01:25 AM)

3. Re-open the company for BAU (save the mentioned people's faces) and perform investigation and correct back what is wrong (if any).

Out of those 3, answer 3 will be the WIN-WIN situation.
I can some what assume if Ah Jib kor comes in and re-opens the company there might be a very high potential that he will gain 60K voters. smile.gif
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Wishful thinking tongue.gif

You dont understand govt dept mentality. Thei face is bigger than anything else laugh.gif
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Genneva Malaysia Supporters will be organizing a MARCH TO PUTRAJAYA to appeal to Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak and the government.



We were informed by Genneva management last week that we will get our gold, hibah and commissions this week. On Monday 1 October 2012, Bank Negara Malaysia raided Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd and froze GMSB's bank account. More than 60,000 families and their livelihoods are affected.



OUR DEMANDS:



1. Gold confiscated by Bank Negara Malaysia to be returned to Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd (GMSB) immediately for delivery to us.



2. Unfreeze GMSB CIMB bank account immediately as Hibah and commissions to over 60,000 customers are due.



3. Stop attacking, persecuting and tarnishing Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd in the media for assumptions and suspicions without evidence.



4. Remove the good name of Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd from the BNM Consumer Alert List as gold trading is an unregulated industry in Malaysia.



5. Acquit Genneva Sdn Bhd. This court case is ongoing since 2009.



More to follow. LIKE http://www.facebook.com/GennevaMalaysiaSupporters for updates on the march details. Post all videos and photos you may have at the wall.



~ Genneva Malaysia Supporters


http://www.facebook.com/GennevaWorld?flyingspaghettimonster=t...275561055895126

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What does Genneva think they are? March to Putrajaya now?

Point No. 2 - Hibah DUE..........DUE? Does this mean there is a CONTRACT? Does this mean there IS DEPOSIT taking activity? hmm.gif

Lookie at the point No.5..............it confirms the company is just changing names from one to the other.........

Why does a legit company need to change their names constantly?

RED FLAg
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Oct 4 2012, 08:37 AM)

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Tis ppl r all siao liao. U invest into sthg in dreamland and blame BNM for the raid. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 3 2012, 11:28 AM)
1. I really feel sorry for those people cause right now their loved ones are in trouble. Put yourself in their shoes, how would you feel?
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Put myself in their shoes? You mean empathy? If I put myself in their shoes, I WOULD only blame myself for being too stupid to believe in a Ponzi scheme, and not let myself go so low as to resort to desperate, deluded game of blaming BNM lar, Malaysian government lar, Singaporean goverment lar...

I have no sympathy whatsoever to people who steal other people's money to pay for their mother's dialysis.

If they did it unknowingly, then they are bloody stupid. If they did it knowingly, then they deserve to rot in hell.

QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 3 2012, 11:28 AM)
2. Is if FACT that Genneva is scam? can you show me proof? please be reminded that they are being investigated & not found guilty yet. Please do not be a Typical Malaysian, "Guilty before proven innocent".
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Yep, you're right, why don't you tell that to the Singaporeans oso?

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/money-mi...ut-3861300.html
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 4 2012, 07:57 AM)
Genneva Malaysia Supporters will be organizing a MARCH TO PUTRAJAYA to appeal to Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak and the government.



We were informed by Genneva management last week that we will get our gold, hibah and commissions this week. On Monday 1 October 2012, Bank Negara Malaysia raided Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd and froze GMSB's bank account. More than 60,000 families and their livelihoods are affected.



OUR DEMANDS:



1. Gold confiscated by Bank Negara Malaysia to be returned to Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd (GMSB) immediately for delivery to us.



2. Unfreeze GMSB CIMB bank account immediately as Hibah and commissions to over 60,000 customers are due.



3. Stop attacking, persecuting and tarnishing Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd in the media for assumptions and suspicions without evidence.



4. Remove the good name of Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd from the BNM Consumer Alert List as gold trading is an unregulated industry in Malaysia.



5. Acquit Genneva Sdn Bhd. This court case is ongoing since 2009.



More to follow. LIKE http://www.facebook.com/GennevaMalaysiaSupporters for updates on the march details. Post all videos and photos you may have at the wall.



~ Genneva Malaysia Supporters
http://www.facebook.com/GennevaWorld?flyin...275561055895126

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What does Genneva think they are?  March to Putrajaya now?

Point No. 2  - Hibah DUE..........DUE?  Does this mean there is a CONTRACT? Does this mean there IS DEPOSIT taking activity?  hmm.gif

Lookie at the point No.5..............it confirms the company is just changing names from one to the other.........

Why does a legit company need to change their names constantly? 

RED FLAg
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Fr wher r they gonna start??? PJ Precint 1 to Precint 2??? Its not sincere le if doin tis short march.

Do it fr Istana baru Hartamas then I salute them la. Really cant und y they stil wanna free genneva to con more ppl. Beta go hire annoying me to sue them back. He is quite gd in giving rubbish facts (kononnya)

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