AS1M/ASM/ASW2020/ASN/ASB and other PNB funds V3, lending your money to the government
AS1M/ASM/ASW2020/ASN/ASB and other PNB funds V3, lending your money to the government
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Nov 25 2012, 09:46 PM
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Wuld investment in the PRS scheme be better than Amanah Saham?
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Nov 26 2012, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(nond @ Nov 25 2012, 08:53 PM) hi, just curious anyone able to top up or c any unit available of ASW2020/AS1M at cimb clicks? someone mentioned he managed to top up for AS1M, i think is jacklew. ASM and ASW is a zero success in so far as my experience goes. I do not have AS1M, so no hands on experience there. I do not know how it works, but I think you cannot see how many units are available. The whole thing is very shabby in details. If one manage to, I think they will open a free text for you to key your amount, then they might reject or accept your topup, failure or success of which will be charged RM1 regardless.do you think should i register my asw2020/as1m account in cimb clicks ? Thanks Up to you to register or not, it is independent of unit availability. You can just register and wait until maybe a nationwide opening of subscription, then you can do it there. On the other hand, funds where units are always available will be there for online subscription, like ASB.. This post has been edited by frontierzone: Nov 26 2012, 12:18 AM |
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Nov 26 2012, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(frontierzone @ Nov 26 2012, 12:15 AM) someone mentioned he managed to top up for AS1M, i think is jacklew. ASM and ASW is a zero success in so far as my experience goes. I do not have AS1M, so no hands on experience there. I do not know how it works, but I think you cannot see how many units are available. The whole thing is very shabby in details. If one manage to, I think they will open a free text for you to key your amount, then they might reject or accept your topup, failure or success of which will be charged RM1 regardless. Thanks a lot ! Up to you to register or not, it is independent of unit availability. You can just register and wait until maybe a nationwide opening of subscription, then you can do it there. On the other hand, funds where units are always available will be there for online subscription, like ASB.. I manage to find jacklew's previous post mentioning his successful top up using cimb clicks ya according to him rm1 will be charged regardless of the outcome ok i 'll go register my acccount tmr to standby thanks for ur help again ! Added on November 26, 2012, 12:50 am QUOTE(jacklew77 @ Oct 12 2012, 04:17 PM) I was trying to add my ASM & ASW2020 as favourite account in CIMB clicks this morning AGAIN. Can't remember how many times i tried and get rejected !! Know what, this time i manage to get it THROUGH !!!!!! I went to Maybank to update my AS1M passbook this afternoon, at the same time try to add more units (for AS1M, ASM, ASW2020), but it was FULL, as usual.[attachmentid=3097257] hi there,can i ask around how many times you tried before you get the rm400 units ? did you try more than 10 times ? Thanks This post has been edited by nond: Nov 26 2012, 12:50 AM |
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Nov 26 2012, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 25 2012, 09:46 PM) You already question this on other thread, the fund is not guarantee and may goes up or down depend on the performance, as mentioned 30% of the fund can be withdraw every years while remaining 70% can be withdraw once each 55 year old. This is only other form of mutual fund, just like you purchasing an insurance plan (NAV) prices is not fixed, only a small number of private companies mutual fund can beat return up to 12% each year.For Private Retirement Funds, there are a lot to consider especially it a private companies. While government can fall into big hole of debt, private companies can goes as well. |
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Nov 26 2012, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(nond @ Nov 26 2012, 12:44 AM) Thanks a lot ! Do you mean by 10 times in a single day? those agents not gonna tried that much for you. Up until now, i question some banks and PNB, they mentioned for new account to open for Chinese is almost zero except announcement return on that day, number of banks say, never for AS1M while PNB say yes but not many, other fund almost zero. You may try your luck too.I manage to find jacklew's previous post mentioning his successful top up using cimb clicks ya according to him rm1 will be charged regardless of the outcome ok i 'll go register my acccount tmr to standby thanks for ur help again ! Added on November 26, 2012, 12:50 am hi there, can i ask around how many times you tried before you get the rm400 units ? did you try more than 10 times ? Thanks |
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Nov 26 2012, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(nond @ Nov 26 2012, 12:44 AM) Thanks a lot ! i managed to top-up the AS1M for RM400 during the FIRST try. At this moment, you can only try to top-up AS1M. Even thought I have registered my ASW2020 & ASM in CIMB clicks, but these two funds are not available for selection when you try to top-up.I manage to find jacklew's previous post mentioning his successful top up using cimb clicks ya according to him rm1 will be charged regardless of the outcome ok i 'll go register my acccount tmr to standby thanks for ur help again ! Added on November 26, 2012, 12:50 am hi there, can i ask around how many times you tried before you get the rm400 units ? did you try more than 10 times ? Thanks |
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Nov 26 2012, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(adolph @ Nov 26 2012, 09:01 AM) Do you mean by 10 times in a single day? those agents not gonna tried that much for you. Up until now, i question some banks and PNB, they mentioned for new account to open for Chinese is almost zero except announcement return on that day, number of banks say, never for AS1M while PNB say yes but not many, other fund almost zero. You may try your luck too. No i mean how many times he tried to top up online until successfully get the RM400 units. Added on November 26, 2012, 7:19 pm QUOTE(jacklew77 @ Nov 26 2012, 09:40 AM) i managed to top-up the AS1M for RM400 during the FIRST try. At this moment, you can only try to top-up AS1M. Even thought I have registered my ASW2020 & ASM in CIMB clicks, but these two funds are not available for selection when you try to top-up. wow you are lucky. I tried to register my as1m in cimb clicks today but get rejected. already email to ask for the reason.... This post has been edited by nond: Nov 26 2012, 07:19 PM |
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Nov 26 2012, 07:57 PM
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do u guys think AS-funds' annual return of abt 6% is able to beat inflation? Or maybe precious metals is better for safeguarding values?
Added on November 26, 2012, 8:25 pmRemember i asked one time why i cannot register ASM on CIMB Clicks? I actually finally managed to, but it was not from any assistance from those correspondence I had with the bank people. I actually ran through some of my deposit slips of ASM from which I had transacted at the physical bank, and observed the details. I saw one line where my IC number was, and it looked usual until I looked more intently, I saw that there was a 0 padded in front of it. Damn, so I went to try and key in again to register online, this time typing my IC with the extra 0 padded in front, ie. 0 followed by YYMMDDxxxxxx, and only then I was accepted. I wonder whether you guys have your IC numbers padded with 0 as well. This post has been edited by frontierzone: Nov 26 2012, 08:33 PM |
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Nov 27 2012, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(frontierzone @ Nov 26 2012, 07:57 PM) do u guys think AS-funds' annual return of abt 6% is able to beat inflation? Or maybe precious metals is better for safeguarding values? real inflation rate is more than that. 10cent rise in a cup of teh tarik can easily be more than 6% |
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Nov 27 2012, 03:06 PM
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Nov 27 2012, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(frontierzone @ Nov 26 2012, 07:57 PM) do u guys think AS-funds' annual return of abt 6% is able to beat inflation? Or maybe precious metals is better for safeguarding values? Hi all, cimb just give me this short reply. Added on November 26, 2012, 8:25 pmRemember i asked one time why i cannot register ASM on CIMB Clicks? I actually finally managed to, but it was not from any assistance from those correspondence I had with the bank people. I actually ran through some of my deposit slips of ASM from which I had transacted at the physical bank, and observed the details. I saw one line where my IC number was, and it looked usual until I looked more intently, I saw that there was a 0 padded in front of it. Damn, so I went to try and key in again to register online, this time typing my IC with the extra 0 padded in front, ie. 0 followed by YYMMDDxxxxxx, and only then I was accepted. I wonder whether you guys have your IC numbers padded with 0 as well. So we can only register when there is unit available? I thought is register first to stanby faint... QUOTE Thank you for your message dated 26-Nov-2012. With regards to your enquiry below, we wish to inform you that Amanah Saham 1 Malaysia (AS1M) for non bumiputra already fully subscribed. *Subscriptions of funds are subject to funds availability. Should you have other enquiries, please do not hesitate to contact our CIMB Call Centre at 1-300-880-900 or 03-2295 6100 between 7am to 11pm (Malaysia hours) daily including public holidays for information and assistance. Warm Regards, |
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Nov 27 2012, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(nond @ Nov 27 2012, 03:53 PM) Hi all, cimb just give me this short reply. Register as in registering your membership (which you already have opened the AS1M previously via physical agents) onto the online banking service right?So we can only register when there is unit available? I thought is register first to stanby faint... |
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Nov 28 2012, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(frontierzone @ Nov 27 2012, 10:41 PM) Register as in registering your membership (which you already have opened the AS1M previously via physical agents) onto the online banking service right? ya. this is what i meani already have the AS1M, i tot register in cimb clicks to standby if any new units available then i can try my luck to grab it. ai....so is she give me wrong instruction ? |
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Nov 28 2012, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(nond @ Nov 28 2012, 12:47 AM) ya. this is what i mean How come you have some sort of like an 'email' message? I believe one can just register straight away at the Investment-related tab, then go to ASNB and then Add Favorites. When we add favorite, we will key in fund membership number and IC then wait one day, for it to be Approved or Rejected. Even rejected there wouldn't be any message to you, just tht its Rejected. Did you use the Message Center to ask them? If so I suggest you go straight to the Add Favorites to try.i already have the AS1M, i tot register in cimb clicks to standby if any new units available then i can try my luck to grab it. ai....so is she give me wrong instruction ? -- Looking back on your post, I believe you sent them a message to ask and you probably have not tried the actual registration. Based on that message their explanation is valid, as you usually can't subscribe new units as long as it is considered 'quota full' for your race. I do not know how you asked them or they may have misinterpreted. Do note that register and subscribe are 2 different terms. Register means you just let them verify your membership and attach it to your account e-banking facility. Whereas subscribe means to 'purchase' units. In summary, you may not be able to subscribe but registration is definitely possible. So, suggest you try to go to "My Investment" then "ASNB", then "View Account Status", then "Add New". Hope it works out. (As my experience goes with the Message from those e-banking, sometimes they really lack knowledge on the thing you asked or due to time constraint, so they rather reply you some generic 'nonsense'.) This post has been edited by frontierzone: Nov 28 2012, 11:33 AM |
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Nov 28 2012, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(frontierzone @ Nov 28 2012, 11:04 AM) How come you have some sort of like an 'email' message? I believe one can just register straight away at the Investment-related tab, then go to ASNB and then Add Favorites. When we add favorite, we will key in fund membership number and IC then wait one day, for it to be Approved or Rejected. Even rejected there wouldn't be any message to you, just tht its Rejected. Did you use the Message Center to ask them? If so I suggest you go straight to the Add Favorites to try. Thanks for ur step by step info bro-- Looking back on your post, I believe you sent them a message to ask and you probably have not tried the actual registration. Based on that message their explanation is valid, as you usually can't subscribe new units as long as it is considered 'quota full' for your race. I do not know how you asked them or they may have misinterpreted. Do note that register and subscribe are 2 different terms. Register means you just let them verify your membership and attach it to your account e-banking facility. Whereas subscribe means to 'purchase' units. In summary, you may not be able to subscribe but registration is definitely possible. So, suggest you try to go to "My Investment" then "ASNB", then "View Account Status", then "Add New". Hope it works out. (As my experience goes with the Message from those e-banking, sometimes they really lack knowledge on the thing you asked or due to time constraint, so they rather reply you some generic 'nonsense'.) i did the registration but get rejected, that's y i msg to ask y This post has been edited by nond: Nov 28 2012, 02:40 PM |
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Nov 28 2012, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(nond @ Nov 28 2012, 02:39 PM) [] Fyi, i managed to have my ASM & ASW2020 REGISTERED successfully via the add function in cimb CLICKS, but that's AFTER MORE THAN 10 TIMES REJECTED :-) Even i have had it registered successfully now, but no way to purchase additional units for ASM & AS2020 as the field in additional purchase only have AS1M as option.Thanks for ur step by step info bro i did the registration but get rejected, that's y i msg to ask y |
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Nov 28 2012, 09:38 PM
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Guys, im bumi, and im interested in opening this account. already have ASB. Do you think bumi units still available in large quantity. what is the max we can invest?
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Nov 28 2012, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(jacklew77 @ Nov 28 2012, 05:09 PM) Fyi, i managed to have my ASM & ASW2020 REGISTERED successfully via the add function in cimb CLICKS, but that's AFTER MORE THAN 10 TIMES REJECTED :-) Even i have had it registered successfully now, but no way to purchase additional units for ASM & AS2020 as the field in additional purchase only have AS1M as option. Keyed in the same information each time? Mine was only finally registered after I realized there is a 0 in front of my IC according to the deposit slip. However that IC was handwritten on my passbook according my actual IC with dashes, on Amanah slip, there is no dash but a ZERO padded in front. If I did not recheck my slip, I think I will never be registered.This post has been edited by frontierzone: Nov 28 2012, 11:48 PM |
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Nov 29 2012, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(frontierzone @ Nov 28 2012, 11:46 PM) Keyed in the same information each time? Mine was only finally registered after I realized there is a 0 in front of my IC according to the deposit slip. However that IC was handwritten on my passbook according my actual IC with dashes, on Amanah slip, there is no dash but a ZERO padded in front. If I did not recheck my slip, I think I will never be registered. ok will try to add a 0 infront. Actually I cant find any IC no. neither the passbook nor the slip. Just my name only Added on November 29, 2012, 12:15 am QUOTE(jacklew77 @ Nov 28 2012, 05:09 PM) Fyi, i managed to have my ASM & ASW2020 REGISTERED successfully via the add function in cimb CLICKS, but that's AFTER MORE THAN 10 TIMES REJECTED :-) Even i have had it registered successfully now, but no way to purchase additional units for ASM & AS2020 as the field in additional purchase only have AS1M as option. >10times.... This post has been edited by nond: Nov 29 2012, 12:15 AM |
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Nov 29 2012, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(weezer @ Nov 28 2012, 09:38 PM) Guys, im bumi, and im interested in opening this account. already have ASB. Do you think bumi units still available in large quantity. what is the max we can invest? Just go apply la, the amount is still big. Even Amanah Saham Didik still not yet full.Bumi never fully subscribed except Amanah Saham 2020. Added on November 29, 2012, 5:24 pm QUOTE(roger_faderar @ Nov 29 2012, 02:25 PM) What you guys think on taking a ASB loan? Between the conventional and islamic which one is better ? Just find the lowest Based Lending Rate (BLR) among banks. This post has been edited by adolph: Nov 29 2012, 05:24 PM |
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