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post Mar 3 2012, 05:12 PM, updated 13y ago

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IOI going to launch 1,000 units of high-end condo located at the highest point of Puchong with beautiful skyline of PJ, Shah Alam and KL. Launcing next year. Expecting price psf anything between RM 600 to RM 700 or could be more.
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post Mar 3 2012, 05:33 PM

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skypod rename to skyz?
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post Mar 3 2012, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(airline @ Mar 3 2012, 05:33 PM)
skypod rename to skyz?
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Project will consist of Skyz and Skypod, both are different project but will be the 2 projects under IOI belt in the upcoming launch.
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post Mar 3 2012, 05:51 PM

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Ya according to following article, skyz and skypod are different. Skypod 600 unit of service apartment and skyz 1000 unit condo, high density oh ...

And also they develop big shopping in putrajaya resort city almost similar size like midvalley.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...80&sec=business
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post Mar 3 2012, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(nkhong @ Mar 3 2012, 05:51 PM)
Ya according to following article, skyz and skypod are different. Skypod 600 unit of service apartment and skyz 1000 unit condo, high density oh ...

And also they develop big shopping in putrajaya resort city almost similar size like midvalley.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...80&sec=business
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Gosh it goes to show the muscle of IOI has, one of the PFCC tower is going to be MSC cybercentre status.

Skypod is behind IOI business park. Skyz also in puchong jaya, I supposed it is near Ladang Harcrof chinese school ?
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post Mar 3 2012, 06:15 PM

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so many condos in puchong..which more expendive

skyz or skypod?
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post Mar 3 2012, 06:37 PM

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Lol... gone are the days when SW is ridicolously priced. Now, it seems damn cheap!
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post Mar 3 2012, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(davkong @ Mar 3 2012, 06:37 PM)
Lol... gone are the days when SW is ridicolously priced. Now, it seems damn cheap!
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But nobody knows the price of skyz and skypod now. The guess figure mentioned might be right, but it's still a guess.
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post Mar 3 2012, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(truly_malaysian @ Mar 3 2012, 05:12 PM)
IOI going to launch 1,000 units of high-end condo located at the highest point of Puchong with beautiful skyline of PJ, Shah Alam and KL. Launcing next year. Expecting price psf anything between RM 600 to RM 700 or could be more.
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1000 units. Density too high. Wonder how to become high end condo.

If IOI launch the word of high end condo, most probably RM 650 per sq ft or much higher.

Seems many high rise going to land on Puchong.
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Wow.. I thought Zefer Hill will be highest peak, now another condo will be in higher ground .. wink.gif


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post Mar 3 2012, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(airline @ Mar 3 2012, 06:15 PM)
so many condos in puchong..which more expendive

skyz or skypod?
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Skypod rumoured @ 550psf

die die wanna buy puchong jaya, forget this Skyz la .. get skypod for future LRT linkage ba

but if buy skypod, why not buy One City MCT, same psf price, catalyst aplenty, but now 7788 with no early bird discounts dy
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Mar 3 2012, 07:45 PM)
Skypod rumoured @ 550psf

die die wanna buy puchong jaya, forget this Skyz la .. get skypod for future LRT linkage ba

but if buy skypod, why not buy One City MCT, same psf price, catalyst aplenty, but now 7788 with no early bird discounts dy
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One City MCT is near the LRT station, but cannot walk there. Have to take bus. Skypod is not exactly very near LRT station, but still walkable.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Mar 3 2012, 07:49 PM)
One City MCT is near the LRT station, but cannot walk there. Have to take bus. Skypod is not exactly very near LRT station, but still walkable.
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Given a choice, still One City for me. Puchong rental is still at it's infancy stage, IOI as usual more interested in their profits, my company accountant was formerly with IOI, no good words from him either in terms of their money grabbing mindset.

One city, just the residential units quantity over development acreage, win beautifully over IOI dy.
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post Mar 3 2012, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Mar 3 2012, 08:07 PM)
Given a choice, still One City for me. Puchong rental is still at it's infancy stage, IOI as usual more interested in their profits, my company accountant was formerly with IOI, no good words from him either in terms of their money grabbing mindset.

One city, just the residential units quantity over development acreage, win beautifully over IOI dy.
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Bro, the one city got residential? Can share more info?
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Mar 3 2012, 05:56 PM)
Gosh it goes to show the muscle of IOI has, one of the PFCC tower is going to be MSC cybercentre status.

Skypod is behind IOI business park. Skyz also in puchong jaya, I supposed it is near Ladang Harcrof chinese school ?
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Quoted from The Star:

"The PFCC has five towers, two blocks which are already 60% and 40% occupied. One of the 2 completed towers is expected to receive its MSC Cybercentre status soon."


I can't actually see the 60% and 40% tenancy on the 2 blocks of PFCC, can you guys?


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post Mar 3 2012, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(T816B @ Mar 3 2012, 10:14 PM)
Quoted from The Star:

"The PFCC has five towers, two blocks which are already 60% and 40% occupied. One of the 2 completed towers is expected to receive its MSC Cybercentre status soon."


I can't actually see the 60% and 40% tenancy on the 2 blocks of PFCC, can you guys?
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Maybe what was meant is that IOI secured the tenancy. The tenants might not have moved in.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Mar 3 2012, 10:32 PM)
Maybe what was meant is that IOI secured the tenancy. The tenants might not have moved in.
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From what I see, it is not even 10% at this moment.


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QUOTE(T816B @ Mar 3 2012, 11:15 PM)
From what I see, it is not even 10% at this moment.
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The report did reveal these details :-

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The 12-storey Tower 1 has a net lettable area of 124,831 sq ft and has secured a university tenancy which takes up 60% of the floor space.

Meanwhile, the 20-storey Tower 2, with a net lettable area of 253,212 sq ft has secured tenancy from a telco company and an oil and gas company. The buildings have state-of-the-art commercial features such as high speed voice and data facilities.
With this amount of details, I don't think it's blow water. Btw, I don't work for IOI. rolleyes.gif


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post Mar 4 2012, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(airline @ Mar 3 2012, 06:15 PM)
so many condos in puchong..which more expendive

skyz or skypod?
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There will be 3 condo ,

Skypod, behind ioi business center.
Skyz - Just right On top of the Vistaria Superlink House. Works already started 2 months ago. Just because they are on top of the hill so, no one can see it.
Puteri Hill Condo - Puchong Bandar Puteri 11.

See the attached map for the location of puteri hill condo if you are not familiar with puteri 11.
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i hv also attached some nice n big semi-d taken recently in puteri 11, .. really nice house. long time hv not seen semi-D with such a size.. and land.

Corner Unit
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Another Corner Unit
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Standard Size - U can park up to 6-10 cars in front of your car porch, depend on car size and how you to park. :-)
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Anyway standard size all sapu, left with 3 corner only.

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QUOTE(nkhong @ Mar 3 2012, 09:42 PM)
Bro, the one city got residential? Can share more info?
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One city has the SOHO which sits on top of the "smaller" shopping mall. Higher floors commercial title, and lower floors residential title. Certain facility is pay per use, for more "classy" facility, one can use the ones in the bigger shopping mall. So the maintenance fees is relatively cheap ! Killer feature ! smile.gif

I was quite interested in this one. But the sales person was truthful enough to tell me, it's not walkable to the LRT station, because it's separated by highway. Have to take bus. I guess the bus have to have a big U-turn somewhere and that makes the distance very far ? Sigh.

If one is optimistic about the entire one city township, the residential title SOHO is worth it.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Mar 3 2012, 11:26 PM)
The report did reveal these details :-
With this amount of details, I don't think it's blow water. Btw, I don't work for IOI.  rolleyes.gif
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They have been talking about the university/college and the oil and gas company as early as 2 years ago. Anyway, I do hope that is true.


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QUOTE(sameday @ Mar 4 2012, 01:54 AM)
There will be 3 condo ,

Skypod, behind ioi business center.
Skyz - Just right On top of the Vistaria Superlink House. Works already started 2 months ago. Just because they are on top of the hill so, no one can see it.
Puteri Hill Condo - Puchong Bandar Puteri 11.

See the attached map for the location of puteri hill condo if you are not familiar with puteri 11.
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i hv also attached some nice n big semi-d taken recently in puteri 11, .. really nice house. long time hv not seen semi-D with such a size.. and land.

Corner Unit
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Another Corner Unit
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Standard Size - U can park up to 6-10 cars in front of your car porch, depend on car size and how you to park. :-)
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Anyway standard size all sapu, left with 3 corner only.
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Any idea how much is the standard size semi-d?


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post Mar 4 2012, 12:11 PM

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Very strong opposition from existing Puteri 11 and Puteri 12 residents on the Hill condo right? I think eventually it will never be built.
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post Mar 4 2012, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(T816B @ Mar 4 2012, 08:04 AM)
They have been talking about the university/college and the oil and gas company as early as 2 years ago. Anyway, I do hope that is true.


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Any idea how much is the standard size semi-d?
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2.4m 6700sft for smallest landsize. only 1 unit, was sold.
all the other standard is 2.5m 6900sf, 2.7m 7400sft, 3.0m 10k sft also sold already.
last time i visit their office, only left 3 corner. the biggest corner 4.2m, 18k sft already sold.

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Looks like very high density!!!
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QUOTE(davkong @ Mar 4 2012, 12:11 PM)
Very strong opposition from existing Puteri 11 and Puteri 12 residents on the Hill condo right? I think eventually it will never be built.
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the so-called "puteri hill" is a small piece of land......you cant imagine that someone would build residential house there....
I think it is just enough space for parking lot for those spill-over cars (park at road side) from 300 ft away puteri bayu apartments..

IOI just want to make PROFITS by building high-end condo + town-house.
it is not a hill at all....juts hill bottom......rumours say puteri buyers was promised of good view during puteri11 launching...and now IOI to build high-rise.

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QUOTE(diylover @ Mar 4 2012, 11:08 PM)
the so-called  "puteri hill" is a small piece of land......you cant imagine that someone would build residential house there....
I think it is just enough space for parking lot for those spill-over cars (park at road side) from 300 ft away puteri bayu apartments..

IOI just want to make PROFITS by building high-end condo + town-house.
it is not a hill at all....juts hill bottom......rumours say puteri buyers was promised of good view during puteri11 launching...and now IOI to build high-rise.
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If like that, then the sub-sale prices for Puteri 11 will not go up much already.... prices have shot up after VP...
It attracted keen interest due to its view although this area is prone to lightning...
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QUOTE(buzzle25 @ Mar 5 2012, 08:26 AM)
If like that, then the sub-sale prices for Puteri 11 will not go up much already.... prices have shot up after VP...
It attracted keen interest due to its view although this area is prone to lightning...
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this Puteri 11 area not really "especially" prone to lightning because its adjacent to Puteri 12 which is much higher, and surrounded by Laman Granview (which is much much higher) and also flanked by Bayu Puteri apartment which acts like a lightning arrestor...

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QUOTE(dcwhz83 @ Mar 5 2012, 11:02 AM)
this Puteri 11 area not really "especially" prone to lightning because its adjacent to Puteri 12 which is much higher, and surrounded by Laman Glenmarie (which is much much higher) and also flanked by Bayu Puteri apartment which acts like a lightning arrestor...
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Laman grandview.

Laman Glenmarie is something else. brows.gif
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i was told of the the now under construction tower at PFCC was already bought by Bank of China, is that true? anybody hear anything?
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QUOTE(JayC75 @ Mar 5 2012, 12:58 PM)
i was told of the the now under construction tower at PFCC was already bought by Bank of China, is that true? anybody hear anything?
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bank China ?
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QUOTE(JayC75 @ Mar 5 2012, 12:58 PM)
i was told of the the now under construction tower at PFCC was already bought by Bank of China, is that true? anybody hear anything?
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Not surprised if it is... The Golden Mile from IOI Mall, IOI Boulevard, SW, PFCC, Bdr Puteri commercial and Naza's Puchong project will be the driving force
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post Mar 5 2012, 02:10 PM

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1000 units ... too high density to be consider as luxury condo.

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QUOTE(thunderaj @ Mar 5 2012, 02:10 PM)
1000 units ... too high density to be consider as luxury condo.
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Ya, when I 1st heard of High end Condo on top of Vistaria, my imagination is unit with big size, 1600-2200sft, low density.
when the news come up stating 1000 units, OMG. more higher density than skypod.. I am not sure how ioi view density vs high end.

maybe their view is different.


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QUOTE(diylover @ Mar 4 2012, 11:08 PM)
the so-called  "puteri hill" is a small piece of land......you cant imagine that someone would build residential house there....
I think it is just enough space for parking lot for those spill-over cars (park at road side) from 300 ft away puteri bayu apartments..

IOI just want to make PROFITS by building high-end condo + town-house.
it is not a hill at all....juts hill bottom......rumours say puteri buyers was promised of good view during puteri11 launching...and now IOI to build high-rise.
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That's what ioi good at doing, turning wonder and profit from small pieces of land.. u can see from puteri 11 olivia, those road between houses is so narrow.. pity them, no wonder a lot of them wanna sell.

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QUOTE(sameday @ Mar 5 2012, 04:01 PM)
Ya, when I 1st heard of High end Condo on top of Vistaria, my imagination is unit with big size, 1600-2200sft, low density.
when the news come up stating 1000 units, OMG. more higher density than skypod.. I am not sure how ioi view density vs high end.

maybe their view is different.


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That's what ioi good at doing, turning wonder and profit from small pieces of land.. u can see from puteri 11 olivia, those road between houses is so narrow.. pity them, no wonder a lot of them wanna sell.
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You are comparing Olivia road with which housing project?
Also mind to tell us how many of Olivia's owner looking to sell their units? A lot of them? Probably you should check again before making false claims.

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QUOTE(thunderaj @ Mar 5 2012, 02:10 PM)
1000 units ... too high density to be consider as luxury condo.
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typo error.. shouldbe 100 units only
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post Mar 5 2012, 05:09 PM

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with the market condition i dont think so they could sell at that price ..
need more benefit or discount.

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QUOTE(thunderaj @ Mar 5 2012, 05:09 PM)
with the market condition i dont think so they could sell at that price ..
need more benefit or discount.
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Sorry bro...what price are they offering?
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From the earlier comment , i saw the price per sqft between 600 to 700 rm

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Added on March 5, 2012, 4:03 pm
That's what ioi good at doing, turning wonder and profit from small pieces of land.. u can see from puteri 11 olivia, those road between houses is so narrow.. pity them, no wonder a lot of them wanna sell.
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Those that are selling are trying to make a huge profit from the demand... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(thunderaj @ Mar 6 2012, 03:39 PM)
From the earlier comment , i saw the price per sqft between 600 to 700 rm
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600 - 700 rm psf only assumptions from forum members based on current market price, not from IOI or inside ifo
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trigon also slow sales. this can sell meh?
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You are comparing Olivia road with which housing project?
Also mind to tell us how many of Olivia's owner looking to sell their units? A lot of them? Probably you should check again before making false claims.
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My friend staying there and he told me he wanted to sell his unit, coz he own 3 cars, a lot of people own 3-4 cars, and since his house is intermediate and the road is very narrow, he's planning to sell it.

2nd reason is the price is quite good when compare to purchase price, it's almost double.

So, i may make the wrong assumption when search for puterii 11 and 5-6 pages of house for sales. However, according to him, those staying intermediate, the road between houses is really narrow and also have problem when come to parking. And not just his problem, everyone facing the same thing.

I am actually comparing to puteri 12, the road in front of house is not narrow. But that does not mean the house there got no value due to on high ground. But if you own a intermediate unit and not near to corner and own 3-4 cars due to big family, then it's not that a good place. But this is from what he told me and also from my many visit to the place.

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QUOTE(sameday @ Mar 7 2012, 03:36 PM)
My friend staying there and he told me he wanted to sell his unit, coz he own 3 cars, a lot of people own 3-4 cars, and since his house is intermediate and the road is very narrow, he's planning to sell it.

2nd reason is the price is quite good when compare to purchase price, it's almost double.

So, i may make the wrong assumption when search for puterii 11 and 5-6 pages of house for sales. However, according to him, those staying intermediate, the road between houses is really narrow and also have problem when come to parking. And not just his problem, everyone facing the same thing.

I am actually comparing to puteri 12, the road in front of house is not narrow.  But that does not mean the house there got no value due to on high ground. But if you own a intermediate unit and not near to corner and own 3-4 cars due to big family, then it's not that a good place. But this is from what he told me and also from my many visit to the place.
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Olivia launched during 2007 when the house price is about to pick-up so talking about the price is almost double seems preety average. Most of the properties owners bought during this time will experiencing almost or more than 100% capital appreciations. if you search in iproperty for puteri 11, you will found that most of the units that looking to sell consist of Nadia 1 & 2 and Primrose. Olivia has the lowest selling rate as most of the owners bought this unit for own stay due to nice layout as compared to the rest especially Nadia. if you feel Puteri 11 has many sellers, then try to search under Puteri 6 for Zarra and Serena, you will be even more surprise.

Frankly, I'd been to Puteri 12 many times and I can tell you the road there is the same size as what Puteri 11 have. I wouldn't say the road size is big but I believe it's on average size. If the house has 3-4 cars then nobody can help on this as for big family they should get themselves Semi-D or super link houses. My car porch can easily accomodate 2 cars side by side and still can have visitors park outside my game and the access still remain wide enough to let the car passby.

By the way if your friend intended to sell his unit so probably you can let me know as I have some people looking at this area and plan to get a unit, better still if have corner unit due to it's magnificent view.
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listed in iproperty, it's an end lot extra 10ft land, price around 1.05mil.
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Vistaria and skyville no more privacy after this built

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QUOTE(sameday @ Mar 8 2012, 12:07 AM)
listed in iproperty, it's an end lot extra 10ft land, price around 1.05mil.
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By the way can I have your friend owner contact that selling this end lot?
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5 blocks

phase 1:
- 2 storey car park
- 3 storey car park
- block C : 33 floors (233 unit) floor 1 - 30
- block D : 30 floors (211 unit) floor 1 - 27

phase 2:
- 4 storey car park
- 1 storey car park
- block A : 26 floors (193 unit) floor 1 - 25
- bloack B : 28 floors (211 unit) floor 1 - 27

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Ioi had advertised skypod since
last year. When are they launching skypod n somemore now the skyz....gosh
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if it is on top of the hills, then may be is good for own stay as can enjoy cool winds in the evening.....

BUT, the density are too high thus it seem like low-medium cost apartment.....If high end, then should be big size with low density.
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Anyone know where is the entrance for this project?
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post Aug 15 2012, 04:32 PM

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Is this skyz surrounding by the ex-apartments developed by IOI?
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Is this skyz surrounding by the ex-apartments developed by IOI?
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Try this, it's not totally correct but roughly ok lar :-

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=...8f3bbd8d95&z=14

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i cant find any info for this development wor...mind sharing?
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Very high density macam medium cost apartment liao lo...
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Can go in from Bukit jalil highway leading
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QUOTE(Neoh1979 @ Aug 15 2012, 10:44 PM)
Can go in from Bukit jalil highway leading
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Nice! But I understand the exit near shell is in terrible traffic in evening+ upcoming lrt, even worse.
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1000 unit how to be luxury??

do you guys know that IOI has another project at Puchong Jaya as well? is in Jalan Pipit same row with Villamas, Sri Bayu..
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Location of The Skyz : http://wikimapia.org/25073965/The-Skyz-by-IOI-properties

I can't find any info on The Skyz too sad.gif


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will there be an access from the Tempua housing area?
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The residents of Puchong Jaya protesting against the The Skyz

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Puchong-Resi...216956228429523
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QUOTE(truly_malaysian @ Feb 2 2013, 10:34 AM)
The residents of Puchong Jaya protesting against the The Skyz

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Puchong-Resi...216956228429523
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I wonder how they able to protest it since the land belongs to IOI.

However, with the land had history of landslide, IOI should not built 5 blocks ( quite many ) and somemore 26-33 storey each. Too high dense and much higher risk.



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Any concern of landslide or not? Abit concern if landslide means investment gone. I'm glad to know this one more pricey than skypod. Vested skypod very early before public launch, with dibs and %%. rolleyes.gif
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Any concern of landslide or not? Abit concern if landslide means investment gone. I'm glad to know this one more pricey than skypod. Vested skypod very early before public launch, with dibs and %%. rolleyes.gif
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first posted on https://www.facebook.com/groups/115179435202482/

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QUOTE(re_freako @ Nov 9 2013, 12:17 PM)
Any concern of landslide or not? Abit concern if landslide means investment gone. I'm glad to know this one more pricey than skypod. Vested skypod very early before public launch, with dibs and %%. rolleyes.gif
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How to register?
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IOI website, no project specific
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Sizes are from 1,095 sf till 1,580 sf.

There will be two allocated car parks for each unit and expected price is about RM650 psf.


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build on top of hill can hav nice view


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Hi All, I'm new to this discussion topic.
Went to IOI's sales gallery at the CUBE Bandar Puteri.

Ard set up the model & show unit but not fully renovated yet. Digital door lock for each unit. Quality of the tiles is good.
Indicative price RM650psf.... so expensive price range. In such a economic climate, response may not be hot.

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QUOTE(jejudo @ Apr 28 2014, 10:31 PM)
Hi All, I'm new to this discussion topic.
Went to IOI's sales gallery at the CUBE Bandar Puteri.

Ard set up the model & show unit but not fully renovated yet. Digital door lock for each unit. Quality of the tiles is good.
Indicative price RM650psf.... so expensive price range. In such a economic climate, response may not be hot.
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QUOTE(jejudo @ Apr 28 2014, 10:31 PM)
Hi All, I'm new to this discussion topic.
Went to IOI's sales gallery at the CUBE Bandar Puteri.

Ard set up the model & show unit but not fully renovated yet. Digital door lock for each unit. Quality of the tiles is good.
Indicative price RM650psf.... so expensive price range. In such a economic climate, response may not be hot.
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RM650psf is expensive even compared to Kelana Jaya or Ara Damansara. And its 1000 unit highly density, imagine the morning rush hours.. Phew!!
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QUOTE(jejudo @ Apr 28 2014, 10:31 PM)
Hi All, I'm new to this discussion topic.
Went to IOI's sales gallery at the CUBE Bandar Puteri.

Ard set up the model & show unit but not fully renovated yet. Digital door lock for each unit. Quality of the tiles is good.
Indicative price RM650psf.... so expensive price range. In such a economic climate, response may not be hot.
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Not sure about the tiles but the digital lock thingie is the same as skypod ke ?
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Saldo, it's high density. I agree with u. Anyone staying there will not feel exclusive but the price tag is exclusive. On weekend, adults will not feel pleasant to swim in a pool full of children - tai gui tao.
Buying an expensive condo that looks nice & secure in your unit only but what's the point the owner cant enjoy the facilities freely.
IOI shd lower the launching pr or rebate int during cons.
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I think price should around RM580 - RM630 pdf and their website is alive at Skyz Residence

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I think price should around RM580 - RM630 pdf and their website is alive at Skyz Residence
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Should be around RM580 - RM630 psf ? Where do you get the info from ? You sound like very confident.
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Should be around RM580 - RM630 psf ? Where do you get the info from ? You sound like very confident.
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1,041 units, high dens leh.....
but it seems vry grand based on their gallery
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1,041 units, high dens leh.....
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The Z residence has 1136 units over a smaller area right ?
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The Z residence has 1136 units over a smaller area right ?
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yes, but i oso foresee this is good project too.
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Whether it will be a good project or not, ties strongly with the pricing. You know IOI is kind of hard headed and their pricing can often be pretty prohibiting.
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yes, but i oso foresee this is good project too.
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Went to their sales gallery yesterday at The Cube, Bandar Puteri..the SA just show the concept soft copy of the brochure.
Price wise based on the built up area on average RM580 for bigger size, mid size at RM610 and lower range size around RM630.
What I pick-up based on brochure..5.8 acre landscape deck with 3 themed podium garden, and 14 no of sky lounges. They plan to open Block E with Petaling Jaya and Sunway view. And based on arrangement of site plan, all the units not going to be block by other building. I think the view should be nice as there are no other future development around this area.

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Should be around RM580 - RM630 psf ? Where do you get the info from ? You sound like very confident.
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Let see the current rate at surrounding development :

a. Le Yuan Residences - Happy Garden (FH) 670 Units at RM580psf
b. OUG Park Lane - OUG (FH) 1053 Units at RM490psf.
c. Benteng 8 - Old Klang Road 220 Units at RM730psf.
d. 9 Seputeh - Old KLang Road 824 units at RM800psf.
e. Pearl Suria - Old Klang Road 403 units at RM590psf.
f. Tiara Mutiara 2 - Old Klang Road 367 units at RM570psf.
g. Avantas Residences - Old Klang Road 198 units at 765psf.
h. The Petalz - Old Klanf]g Road 565 units at RM650psf.
i. Verve Suites - Old Klang Road 321 units at RM1,000psf.

And sub-sale at KM1 West Bukit Jalil is around RM690psf. with 350 units. With a similar range built-up area with Skyz i.e 1,335 to 1,508sf. do you think RM580 - RM630psf is a fair price rate ?. Ok let say we factor IOI Properties name, high ground, amenities and accessibility ...at 5% higher it should range from RM610psf.

Just my 2 cents.

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QUOTE(mes23 @ May 23 2014, 11:38 AM)
Let see the current rate at surrounding development :

a. Le Yuan Residences - Happy Garden (FH) 670 Units at RM580psf
b. OUG Park Lane - OUG (FH) 1053 Units at RM490psf.
c. Benteng 8 - Old Klang Road 220 Units at RM730psf.
d. 9 Seputeh - Old KLang Road 824 units at RM800psf.
e. Pearl Suria - Old Klang Road 403 units at RM590psf.
f. Tiara Mutiara 2 - Old Klang Road 367 units at RM570psf.
g. Avantas Residences - Old Klang Road 198 units at 765psf.
h. The Petalz - Old Klanf]g Road 565 units at RM650psf.
i. Verve Suites - Old Klang Road 321 units at RM1,000psf.

And sub-sale at KM1 West at Bukit Jalil around RM690psf. with 350 units. What similar built-up area with Skyz range 1,335 to 1,508sf. Do you think RM580 - RM630psf is a fair price rate. Ok let say we factor IOI Properties name...at 5% higher it should range from RM610psf.

Just my 2 cents.
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But that's your prediction. May or may not be the same as IOI's pricing.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 23 2014, 11:47 AM)
But that's your prediction. May or may not be the same as IOI's pricing.
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Agreed with you. Some time IOI price is very difficult to predict. OK let factor some "FREE" items into basic price calculation let said...IOI offer (a) Free SPA legal fees (b) Free interest during construction (not DIBS) maybe something like interest reimburse during construction © Free kitchen cabinet (as their project Parc Ville came with kitchen cabinet and air-cond)..and all this rate factor into SPA price, it should be around RM620 - RM650psf.

Maybe we need to check with them what package they are offering.
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don't forget the LRT extension station 5 (currently dropped due to objection from resident)
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don't forget the LRT extension station 5 (currently dropped due to objection from resident)
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Will the station No 5 still be constructed ?

I know the other stations (forgot the station no) in somewhere Puchong prima will still be constructed even if it will not be put into service.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 23 2014, 12:05 PM)
Will the station No 5 still be constructed ?

I know the other stations (forgot the station no) in somewhere Puchong prima will still be constructed even if it will not be put into service.
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portal piers was built, not sure the station.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 23 2014, 12:05 PM)
Will the station No 5 still be constructed ?

I know the other stations (forgot the station no) in somewhere Puchong prima will still be constructed even if it will not be put into service.
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Station 5 should be around Kinrara near the Taman Perindustrian Kinrara and Bandar Kinrara 3 is it? I think Station 12 is still pending with the final location before reach Station 13 at Putra Height and link it with Kelana Jaya line near Persiaran Putra Indah.
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portal piers was built, not sure the station.
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The portal piers is there to support the LRT track switching from one side of the road to another side, or is there to support the LRT station ?

If you read the post above, the location of the portal piers do not quite match the located intended for station 05. The portal piers are opposite petronas gas station. Whereas the station 05 is at the shell gas station.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 23 2014, 12:21 PM)
The portal piers is there to support the LRT track switching from one side of the road to another side, or is there to support the LRT station ?

If you read the post above, the location of the portal piers do not quite match the located intended for station 05. The portal piers are opposite petronas gas station. Whereas the station 05 is at the shell gas station.
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you're making me confuse, wouldn't the building inside my picture was sri teratai?
so the piers near to shell instead petronas.
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you're making me confuse, wouldn't the building inside my picture was sri teratai?
so the piers near to shell instead petronas.
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Before Sri Teratai Apartment next to the factory before the Shell station and entrance road to Persiaran Puchong Jaya Selatan. If you drive further the similar structure also can been seen before Blossom Court.
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QUOTE(elmond @ May 23 2014, 12:03 PM)
don't forget the LRT extension station 5 (currently dropped due to objection from resident)
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confirm drop? very bad news for skyz. otherwise they could sell higher psf.
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confirm drop? very bad news for skyz. otherwise they could sell higher psf.
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Looks like indeed dropped otherwise IOI's marketing material will mention it.

But if prasarana still constructs the station, then there is a chance it could be revived later.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 23 2014, 01:50 PM)
Looks like indeed dropped otherwise IOI's marketing material will mention it.

But if prasarana still constructs the station, then there is a chance it could be revived later.
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Yeah...inside Skyz website, they never mention or indicate Station 5 on the location plan. If not is should be a great selling point to the Skyz.."Walking distance to Station Kinrara LRT Ampang Line". I think it just around 600 meter only.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 23 2014, 01:50 PM)
Looks like indeed dropped otherwise IOI's marketing material will mention it.

But if prasarana still constructs the station, then there is a chance it could be revived later.
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Do you all think station 5 (near Skyz) & station 6 (near IOI mall) is too close to each other?
Building the LRT station to convenient the people or benefit the developer?

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Do you all think station 5 (near Skyz) & station 6 (near IOI mall) is too close to each other?
Building the LRT station to convenient the people or benefit the developer?
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just imagine if station 5 not there, anyone need LRT go to station 6, LDP not jam?
station was study against population density and suitable location, of course future development too, in this case skyz have 1000 units

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QUOTE(chewlee @ May 23 2014, 02:41 PM)
Do you all think station 5 (near Skyz) & station 6 (near IOI mall) is too close to each other?
Building the LRT station to convenient the people or benefit the developer?
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Don't under estimate the distance.

I just checked. From skyz to station 6, it's easily > 1km walking distance. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Do you all think station 5 (near Skyz) & station 6 (near IOI mall) is too close to each other?
Building the LRT station to convenient the people or benefit the developer?
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The missing station in between Kinrara BK5 and Bandar Puchong Jaya. There is a gap space at the station marking that may...may be used in the future.
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QUOTE(elmond @ May 23 2014, 02:52 PM)
just imagine if station 5 not there, anyone need LRT go to station 6, LDP not jam?
station was study against population density and suitable location, of course future development too, in this case skyz have 1000 units
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I don't know who were the ones who objected to station 05, probably the higher end landed houses on the top the hill. Otherwise, I don't see it making sense !
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QUOTE(elmond @ May 23 2014, 02:52 PM)
just imagine if station 5 not there, anyone need LRT go to station 6, LDP not jam?
station was study against population density and suitable location, of course future development too, in this case skyz have 1000 units
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Ok, a proper population density study.
BTW, if u stay in kinara, u can go to station 4 instead of 6 if there is no station 5.
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I don't know who were the ones who objected to station 05, probably the higher end landed houses on the top the hill. Otherwise, I don't see it making sense !
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sri teratai & BK3

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QUOTE(elmond @ May 23 2014, 02:59 PM)
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Then it does not make sense to me.
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I think is should benefit Sri Teratai Apartment owner. and also another apartment behind Shell..D'Cahaya Apartment. You can just easily rent your unit with slightly higher rental..imagine how convenient is it to the tenant.
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QUOTE(mes23 @ May 23 2014, 03:04 PM)
I think is should benefit Sri Teratai Apartment owner. and also another apartment behind Shell..D'Cahaya Apartment. You can just easily rent your unit with slightly higher rental..imagine how convenient is it to the tenant.
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Hope the Station 5 and Station 12 under extension LRT Ampang Line can be reality someday.
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QUOTE(elmond @ May 23 2014, 02:59 PM)
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I thought owner of Sri Mekar apartment objected?
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I thought owner of Sri Mekar apartment objected?
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sri mekar not near station 5, ok.
they object he line too near them, not station 5

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I thought owner of Sri Mekar apartment objected?
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Sure have a lot of anti-development people ! shakehead.gif
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Anyway whoever who plan to invest in skyz have to do a bit of gambling with respect to station 05.

If it is re-instated in the future, then it works out to be a nice bonus.
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Sure have a lot of anti-development people !  shakehead.gif
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i agree to develop, but i also understand why sri Mekar owner objected.
The LRT line is too close to their apartment.
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i agree to develop, but i also understand why sri Mekar owner objected.
The LRT line is too close to their apartment.
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This one is totally understandable.

They will get the noise pollution without the convenience and easy access !
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I know there were few owners of BK3 landed house owners actively meeting govt to protest on station 5. They are not LRT commuters and they dont like an increase in cars sending passengers or parking nearby the dropped LRT station 5 ie. nearby their housing area. So selfish.
Skyz Residence's temporary brochure stated it's 23 acres of land then this shd be a large piece of land. But I always pass by Jalil hiway and saw the ground doesnt look like hard 'stone' type but soil only. Exposed to soil erosion on rainy days. Dont forget during rainy season, rain can last for many hours and heavy too. Saw trees are cut, soil movement can happen in future.

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I know there were few owners of BK3 landed house owners actively meeting govt to protest on station 5. They are not LRT commuters and they dont like an increase in cars sending passengers or parking nearby the dropped LRT station 5 ie. nearby their housing area. So selfish.
Skyz Residence's temporary brochure stated it's 23 acres of land then this shd be a large piece of land. But I always pass by Jalil hiway and saw the ground doesnt look like hard 'stone' type but soil only. Exposed to soil erosion on rainy days. Dont forget during rainy season, rain can last for many hours and heavy too. Saw trees are cut, soil movement can happen in future.
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That's a valid concern, furthermore our country has quite a few infamous incidents of land slide and all those unfortunate happenings. And all these development all of them started up nicely and everyone is optimistic about it. But after a few years, the drains get clogged and water is trapped and underground soil movement causing problem.

Nevertheless there are of course also cases of successful development on hilly areas.

I thought there were protests initially about this project. Now IOI seem to have kautim MPSJ. What have they guarantee MPSJ about the development safety ? Anyone knows ?
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That's a valid concern, furthermore our country has quite a few infamous incidents of land slide and all those unfortunate happenings. And all these development all of them started up nicely and everyone is optimistic about it. But after a few years, the drains get clogged and water is trapped and underground soil movement causing problem.

Nevertheless there are of course also cases of successful development on hilly areas.

I thought there were protests initially about this project. Now IOI seem to have kautim MPSJ. What have they guarantee MPSJ about the development safety ? Anyone knows ?
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We hv all sort of remedies for hilly development including sharp cliff, not an issue at all.
The main concern here is who is the proprietor?
IOI? Me tala confidence
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We hv all sort of remedies for hilly development including sharp cliff, not an issue at all.
The main concern here is who is the proprietor?
IOI? Me tala confidence
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Not too long ago there was a case where bungalow owners in Bandar Puteri were evicted from their homes...

http://www.thestar.com.my/story.aspx/?file...ntral%2f8978829
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Heavy rain is scary. Foundation work to prevent soil erosion looks not done yet.
BTW, I heard can start booking already, anyone of you have booked ?
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We hv all sort of remedies for hilly development including sharp cliff, not an issue at all.
The main concern here is who is the proprietor?
IOI? Me tala confidence
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I agree with you.

But in Bolehsia how many developers can give you the needed confidence? And it seems malaysian buyers have very short term memory and also pretty forgiving.
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I agree with you.

But in Bolehsia how many developers can give you the needed confidence? And it seems malaysian buyers have very short term memory and also pretty forgiving.
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But saw the land at slope near terrace house and facing Bukit Jalil Highway ... They did a soil nailing. Maybe they learn from the mistake they did at Puteri 9. If this land fail ... I think habis IOI forever and I don't think so they will let it happen. Now I saw they younger son start taking over from the Senior Lee.
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Heavy rain is scary. Foundation work to prevent soil erosion looks not done yet.
BTW, I heard can start booking already, anyone of you have booked ?
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Yes, they do accept booking for Block E and offering discount voucher
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So what is the package and psf ?
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So what is the package and psf ?
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Rumour 610-650psf. No details on package yet...

The scale model is quite interesting due to the interactive feature. Once you select an unit via the touch screen computer, the unit at scale model will light up, then the details of the unit such as unit layout, floor layout will display on the computer screen thumbup.gif

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Rumour 610-650psf. No details on package yet...

The scale model is quite interesting due to the interactive feature. Once you select an unit via the touch screen computer, the unit at scale model will light up, then the details of the unit such as unit layout, floor layout will display on the computer screen  thumbup.gif
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Earlier it was said to be bookable. How do people book if there is no detail package ?
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Earlier it was said to be bookable. How do people book if there is no detail package ?
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Perhaps due to booking fee merely RM1K?

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Yet got units booked when I was there yesterday  rclxub.gif

Perhaps due to booking fee merely RM1K?
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Yet got units booked when I was there yesterday  rclxub.gif

Perhaps due to booking fee merely RM1K?
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At their office : Actually they are selling a discount voucher for this project value at RM10,000 at price of RM7,000. So if anyone interested with the unit they can just pay the voucher at RM1,000 and select the unit. The balance to be paid when it officially launch.

No package confirm..but may similar package with DIBS to be introduced.
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At their office : Actually they are selling a discount voucher for this project value at RM10,000 at price of RM7,000. So if anyone interested with the unit they can just pay the voucher at RM1,000 and select the unit. The balance to be paid when it officially launch.

No package confirm..but may similar package with DIBS to be introduced.
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The entrance remind me of Foresta Damansara, the facilities and development layout remind me of Armanee Damansara Damai‎

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At their office : Actually they are selling a discount voucher for this project value at RM10,000 at price of RM7,000. So if anyone interested with the unit they can just pay the voucher at RM1,000 and select the unit. The balance to be paid when it officially launch.

No package confirm..but may similar package with DIBS to be introduced.
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I really wonder if this sales practice is legal. Kakaka.

Buying a property by first buying voucher and without knowing the confirmed package and selling scheme, and then use to voucher to get a booking for the property. Do they already have obtained the AP and others ! How about those booking receipt etc etc ! whistling.gif

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I really wonder if this sales practice is legal. Kakaka.

Buying a property by first buying voucher and without knowing the confirmed package and selling scheme, and then use to voucher to get a booking for the property. Do they already have obtained the AP and others ! How about those booking receipt etc etc !  whistling.gif
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I think they got their DL & AP as I saw it their registration ads inside iProperty magazine May 2014 issue....DL 5579-25/05-2015(49). This is one thing that I like IOI Properties, they obtain their all approval first before they talk to market compare to other big player like Ecoworld on their Eco Majestic in Semenyeh and Mah Sing at Bangi..they collect the booking fees even without APDL and put the money under stakeholder. Which one is more ethic?

Some of them maybe watch this project for very long and they don't mine to pay it as long as they got their desire unit.
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I think they got their DL & AP as I saw it their registration ads inside iProperty magazine May 2014 issue....DL 5579-25/05-2015(49). This is one thing that I like IOI Properties, they obtain their all approval first before they talk to market compare to other big player like Ecoworld on their Eco Majestic in Semenyeh and Mah Sing at Bangi..they collect the booking fees even without APDL and put the money under stakeholder. Which one is more ethic?

Some of them maybe watch this project for very long and they don't mine to pay it as long as they got their desire unit.
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Build-up, price, facilities, carparks, maintenance fees, FH or LH?
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Any details on this project?
Build-up, price, facilities, carparks, maintenance fees, FH or LH?
Thanks.
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Info that I got this morning..There are 5 blocks in total with various height from 25 to 30 storey sitting on the 5 storey car park podium. A nice arrangement on all block without blocking each other. As told by SA I can summaries their USP into (a) FREEHOLD (b) 200 meter on the highest point of Bandar Puchong Jaya with uninterrupted view. © 5.8 acres landscape podium with 18 lifestyle facilities + club house + 2 swimming pools etc. (d) 3 themed garden podium decks. (e) 14 sky lounges ... and each block got at less 2 sky lounge with both direction view. Some of the block as seen in the model got 4 sky lounges per block. (e) 7 tier security (f) Old the unit layout either semi-d or bungalow..Built-up area as show on interactive panel screen for Type A 1,518 sf, Type B 1,302, Type B1 1,281, Type C 1,130 Type D 1,625, Type D1 1,367, Type E 1,324 and Type E1 1,325. If they plan to open Block E there are 3 types A, B & C to choice for.

SA told each unit will get 2 car parks as accessory parcel and maintenance fees around RM0.35 psf.

Brochure not ready.

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I think they got their DL & AP as I saw it their registration ads inside iProperty magazine May 2014 issue....DL 5579-25/05-2015(49). This is one thing that I like IOI Properties, they obtain their all approval first before they talk to market compare to other big player like Ecoworld on their Eco Majestic in Semenyeh and Mah Sing at Bangi..they collect the booking fees even without APDL and put the money under stakeholder. Which one is more ethic?

Some of them maybe watch this project for very long and they don't mine to pay it as long as they got their desire unit.
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They are one of a few developers that capable of BTS or only open for sale with construction already started long ago thumbup.gif

Willing buyer willing seller. The voucher is also transferable. Fair enough.


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Info that I got this morning..There are 5 blocks in total with various height from 25 to 30 storey sitting on the 5 storey car park podium. A nice arrangement on all block without blocking each other. As told by SA I can summaries their USP into (a) FREEHOLD (b) 200 meter on the highest point of Bandar Puchong Jaya with uninterrupted view. © 5.8 acres landscape podium with 18 lifestyle facilities + club house + 2 swimming pools etc. (d) 3 themed garden podium decks. (e) 14 sky lounges ... and each block got at less 2 sky lounge with both direction view. Some of the block as seen in the model got 4 sky lounges per block. (e) 7 tier security (f) Old the unit layout either semi-d or bungalow..Built-up area as show on interactive panel screen for Type A 1,518 sf, Type B 1,302, Type B1 1,281, Type C 1,130 Type D 1,625, Type D1 1,367, Type E 1,324 and Type E1 1,325. If they plan to open Block E there are 3 types A, B & C to choice for.

SA told each unit will get 2 car parks as accessory parcel and maintenance fees around RM0.35 psf.

Brochure not ready.
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Thank you for sharing rclxms.gif

Additional info, side by side CP, ceiling height at 11ft.

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Thank you for sharing  rclxms.gif

Additional info, side by side CP, ceiling height at 11ft.
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11ft? Sure?
If yes, tats SUPER Wonderful !!!

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Info that I got this morning..There are 5 blocks in total with various height from 25 to 30 storey sitting on the 5 storey car park podium. A nice arrangement on all block without blocking each other. As told by SA I can summaries their USP into (a) FREEHOLD (b) 200 meter on the highest point of Bandar Puchong Jaya with uninterrupted view. © 5.8 acres landscape podium with 18 lifestyle facilities + club house + 2 swimming pools etc. (d) 3 themed garden podium decks. (e) 14 sky lounges ... and each block got at less 2 sky lounge with both direction view. Some of the block as seen in the model got 4 sky lounges per block. (e) 7 tier security (f) Old the unit layout either semi-d or bungalow..Built-up area as show on interactive panel screen for Type A 1,518 sf, Type B 1,302, Type B1 1,281, Type C 1,130 Type D 1,625, Type D1 1,367, Type E 1,324 and Type E1 1,325. If they plan to open Block E there are 3 types A, B & C to choice for.

SA told each unit will get 2 car parks as accessory parcel and maintenance fees around RM0.35 psf.

Brochure not ready.
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35cents maintenance is rather high for a full resi titled development imho.
or is this a commercial titled development?
is it inclusive of sinking fund?
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11ft? Sure?
If yes, tats SUPER Wonderful !!!
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According to SA...

To justify the premium price perhaps

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According to SA...

To justify the premium price perhaps
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They always claim their ceiling is high. Skypod also claimed something like that though I don't have the exact figure.
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Will 11ft height be stated in SPA? If not useless also, later they built lesser also you cannot bite them eat.
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35cents maintenance is rather high for a full resi titled development imho.
or is this a commercial titled development?
is it inclusive of sinking fund?
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Land under residential - condominium title.
Agreed with you...it should lower that RM0.35 psf. If we do a basic calculation on average built-up 1,200 sf. x 0.35 x 1039 units = RM436,380 per month maintenance collection.
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Will 11ft height be stated in SPA? If not useless also, later they built lesser also you cannot bite them eat.
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I tell you, 90% of those condos / service apts' show units are built with higher ceiling, it is the greatest and most successful marketing tricks applied by Developers, unconsciously you deem to feel the "space" is 10%-15% larger, good enuf to fool the buyers. Width and length are manipulated sometimes
Never belif in developer's condo show unit

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Info that I got this morning..There are 5 blocks in total with various height from 25 to 30 storey sitting on the 5 storey car park podium. A nice arrangement on all block without blocking each other. As told by SA I can summaries their USP into (a) FREEHOLD (b) 200 meter on the highest point of Bandar Puchong Jaya with uninterrupted view. © 5.8 acres landscape podium with 18 lifestyle facilities + club house + 2 swimming pools etc. (d) 3 themed garden podium decks. (e) 14 sky lounges ... and each block got at less 2 sky lounge with both direction view. Some of the block as seen in the model got 4 sky lounges per block. (e) 7 tier security (f) Old the unit layout either semi-d or bungalow..Built-up area as show on interactive panel screen for Type A 1,518 sf, Type B 1,302, Type B1 1,281, Type C 1,130 Type D 1,625, Type D1 1,367, Type E 1,324 and Type E1 1,325. If they plan to open Block E there are 3 types A, B & C to choice for.

SA told each unit will get 2 car parks as accessory parcel and maintenance fees around RM0.35 psf.

Brochure not ready.
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Thanks for sharing!! rclxms.gif

My observation:
1) Freehold quite good selling point.
2) Too many sky lounges, not easy to maintain.
3) 7 tier security?? How to 7tier? Usually 4 tier already very geng.
4) All units built-up quite big, nothing less than 1000sft. Price will be on high side. Suitable for own stayers, for flippers need to consider.
Just my inexperience 2cents.

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I tell you, 90% of those condos / service apts' show units are built with higher ceiling, it is the greatest and most successful marketing tricks applied by Developers, unconsciously you deem to feel the "space" is 10%-15% larger, good enuf to fool the buyers. Width and length are manipulated sometimes
Never belif in developer's condo show unit
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Fully agree!!
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The only thing to tackle this...if the developer is really genuine ask them to show the building plan approved by local authority. If they reluctant to show it..there is something that they try to hide it.

I remember last time during IOI office at Bandar Puchong Jaya (now HSBC) the SA always show the building plan and share with their prospect the actual measurement of the building and show how they got certain built-ho area. Now..I don't think the SA of most developer know how to read building plan.

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Yes, dont trust if developers sa say they are offering something much better unless got black n white. Developers never promise but sa say only.
It is before disc from rm580 (largest) -630 (1162sf).
sure got dibs alike ?
23 acres is large piece of land.
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Yes, dont trust if developers sa say they are offering something much better unless got black n white. Developers never promise but sa say only.
It is before disc from rm580 (largest) -630 (1162sf).
sure got dibs alike ?
23 acres is large piece of land.
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630 x 1162 = RM732,060
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This is before discount & other early bird rebates.
imagine driving out from skyz,u hv to keep to right. make a u-turn on yr right by waiting the traffic light near ioi turn red. It's not a smooth journey.
and traffic jam on lebuhraya jalil from astro to skyz start 6am I guess bcos I always use this road at 6.45am and saw traffic jam.
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QUOTE(kochin @ May 29 2014, 08:30 AM)
630 x 1162 = RM732,060
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I like RM888,888! rclxms.gif
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More expensive than the nearby (older) landed house with the same or bigger built up, by the same developer.
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This is before discount & other early bird rebates.
imagine driving out from skyz,u hv to keep to right. make a u-turn on yr right by waiting the traffic light near ioi turn red. It's not a smooth journey.
and traffic jam on lebuhraya jalil from astro to skyz start 6am  I guess bcos I always use this road at 6.45am and saw  traffic jam.
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Just ask about the jam...is it due to LRT construction now or maybe future also still the same?
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Just ask about the jam...is it due to LRT construction now or maybe future also still the same?
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Another Sky open for registration ...
SKYVILLE 8 @ Benteng Old Klang Road
952sf to 1052sf @ RM750psf.
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Another Sky open for registration ...
SKYVILLE 8 @ Benteng Old Klang Road
952sf to 1052sf @ RM750psf.
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This one was known as 'benteng'. Now they decided to change name to give it more gwai lao flavour.
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This one was known as 'benteng'. Now they decided to change name to give it more gwai lao flavour.
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Received email from IOI on Skyz "LAUNCHING SOON!" Show gallery ready for viewing. The building got 'Highly Commended' under residential high rise category from Asia Pacific Property Awards 2014 / 2015.
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Received email from IOI on Skyz "LAUNCHING SOON!" Show gallery ready for viewing. The building got 'Highly Commended' under residential high rise category from Asia Pacific Property Awards 2014 / 2015.
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Not sure if this award has anything to do with people's buying decision. If noy mistaken Villamas got the previous year award for the Cristal residence. But it did not make it the hottest property though. wink.gif
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Not sure if this award has anything to do with people's buying decision. If noy mistaken Villamas got the previous year award for the Cristal residence. But it did not make it the hottest property though. wink.gif
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Received email from IOI on Skyz "LAUNCHING SOON!" Show gallery ready for viewing. The building got 'Highly Commended' under residential high rise category from Asia Pacific Property Awards 2014 / 2015.
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Hi bro where is the sales gallery?
I plan to go and have a look
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Gallery in bandar puteri. After columbia asia u will come to McDonald's. Its a few doors down from McDonald's. Open 9 to 6 daily
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Hi bro where is the sales gallery?
I plan to go and have a look
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I hv been to sales gallery. 2 show unit avail. 13xx sqf and 15xx sqf. All 3 room 2 bath. Very specious.
But overall i find parc ville better layout.

Price avg 780k and 900k. No promo yet.


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QUOTE(linkor @ May 31 2014, 06:27 PM)
I hv been to sales gallery. 2 show unit avail. 13xx sqf and 15xx sqf. All 3 room 2 bath. Very specious.
But overall i find parc ville better layout.

Price avg 780k and 900k. No promo yet.
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Boss ada masuk? Agree parc ville better layout... but location sux. Too much of traffic to be crossing that bridge daily with all the projects there

Hoping the tempua houses start moving up in price due to this

By the time they launch the final block prob be another 15pct from now so easily cross the 1 million mark for highrise in puchong?
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I hv been to sales gallery. 2 show unit avail. 13xx sqf and 15xx sqf. All 3 room 2 bath. Very specious.
But overall i find parc ville better layout.

Price avg 780k and 900k. No promo yet.
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not cheap, early phase should be lower but this project seems not.
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not cheap, early phase should be lower but this project seems not.
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I think this is a last project at Bandar Puchong Jaya by IOI under residential title - condominium. Maybe this is the factor for the price and with almost 5.8 acres landscape podium deck, glass wall and soil nailing at the hill slope it simple increase the construction cost to IOI.
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QUOTE(ruben7389 @ May 31 2014, 08:18 PM)
Boss ada masuk? Agree parc ville better layout... but location sux. Too much of traffic to be crossing that bridge daily with all the projects there

Hoping the tempua houses start moving up in price due to this

By the time they launch the final block prob be another 15pct from now so easily cross the 1 million mark for highrise in puchong?
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I don't know how to play condo la, so never bought 1 in my life.

People waiting 5% rebate , free kitchen cab and air cons then we will see it moves
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I don't know how to play condo la, so never bought 1 in my life.

People waiting 5% rebate , free kitchen cab and air cons then we will see it moves
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Yup if 5pct then shld start moving. Not sure if thats gonna happen yet.

Wah never play condo. Amazing man!
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Yup if 5pct then shld start moving. Not sure if thats gonna happen yet.

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What's the per floor price increase for this one ?

If not mistaken, the skypod per floor increase is 3k. It shoots up the price very quickly.
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What's the per floor price increase for this one ?

If not mistaken, the skypod per floor increase is 3k. It shoots up the price very quickly.
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Same as skypod. 3k
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many many missing sector in the eye of fengshui. rclxub.gif bad design
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many many missing sector in the eye of fengshui.    rclxub.gif  bad design
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1500 sq feet comes with 3 balconies and 4 bathrooms? Waste of space la. So living kitchen n bedrooms will prob be smaller to accomodate the 3 balcony and 4 bathrooms
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many many missing sector in the eye of fengshui.    rclxub.gif  bad design
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Yup esp type C
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Care to elaborate what are these "missing sectors in the eyes of fengshui" ?
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The feng shui is already complicated subject when the house is square shape. Different sifu might has different theory. This one odd shape and comlicated, better dont look at fengshui if wanna buy it, u invite 10 sifu to look at it and you will get ten opinions.

To me simple is beauty. All square square even boring but better. This one just type C is ok coz just balcony odd shape, the other two type master bed room and balcony are odd shape.
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Jun 1 2014, 12:33 PM)
The feng shui is already complicated subject when the house is square shape. Different sifu might has different theory. This one odd shape and comlicated, better dont look at fengshui if wanna buy it, u invite 10 sifu to look at it and you will get ten opinions.

To me simple is beauty. All square square even boring but better. This one just type C is ok coz just balcony odd shape, the other two type master bed room and balcony are odd shape.
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Oh I see, that's what is meant by "missing sections" ke ? Kakaka ...

Yeah I agree with you different sifu will have different theory and 10 sifu will have ten different opinions.

I only trust my own theory and opinion. Kakaka.

Maybe, just maybe it's all these "less functional" features which make it win the property award ?



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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 1 2014, 12:48 PM)
Oh I see, that's what is meant by "missing sections" ke ? Kakaka ...

Yeah I agree with you different sifu will have different theory and 10 sifu will have ten different opinions.

I only trust my own theory and opinion. Kakaka.

Maybe, just maybe it's all these "less functional" features which make it  win the property award ?
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Eerrr, actually i dont what is the missing sector meant by linkor le. My fengshui knowledge very basic only.
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Eerrr, actually i dont what is the missing sector meant by linkor le. My fengshui knowledge very basic only.
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Wow I thought you know but you also don't know ke ?

K at least I am not alone. Kakaka ....
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many many missing sector in the eye of fengshui.    rclxub.gif  bad design
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Give me till tomorrow.. Will drop by again to the sales gallery this afternoon after eat lunch at McD to see and study the rational behind this odd balcony and the design. Report on the design and location will be out.

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Visited the sales gallery and show units today.
The layout is kinda weird, small bed room but large kitchen n bathrooms.
The interior ensign the worst I ever see.

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Care to elaborate what are these "missing sectors in the eyes of fengshui" ?
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Missing Sector . A perfect house is a square shape house. Where it got balance share of Good sector & bad sectors.

When you draw a 9 box (equaly devide a house plan into 9 boxes). You can see which area got the good Qi and Bad Qi. Again it is balance for a perfect square house.

Now, draw for a odd shape house like Type C. You probably get more Bad Qi in the house or more Good Qi in the house.

When you have more Good Qi, then good loh.. when you have more Bad Qi then modify or fixing will be a bit more difficult.

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Bad Qi means what to person who stay there ?? :- It hurts the people when the right TIME & right location. It may happen in 5 yrs or may be 10 years or may be tomorrow.
Normal people doesn't know when and where but Fengshui master can tell.
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QUOTE(linkor @ Jun 1 2014, 07:02 PM)
Missing Sector . A perfect house is a square shape house. Where it got balance share of Good sector & bad sectors.

When you draw a 9 box (equaly devide a house plan into 9 boxes). You can see which area got the good Qi and Bad Qi. Again it is balance for a perfect square house.

Now, draw for a odd shape house like Type C.  You probably get more Bad Qi in the house or more Good Qi in the house.

When you have more Good Qi, then good loh.. when you have more Bad Qi then modify or fixing will be a bit more difficult.

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Bad Qi means what to person who stay there ?? :- It hurts the people when the right TIME & right location. It may happen in 5 yrs or may be 10 years or may be tomorrow. 
Normal people doesn't know when and where but Fengshui master can tell.
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The theory of fengshui is like what you mentioned.

But the fengshui masters (in lowyat forum) are keeping quiet about this.

Why lar ? They did not read these posts here or they dare not anti-IOI or they have different views ?

I would love to see all the fengshui master making comments on this.

This development has enough space to have more squarish design. But the architect refused to do it, the architect instead let the lifts eat up a corner ( sector ) of the square. Why lar ?


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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 2 2014, 09:42 AM)
The theory of fengshui is like what you mentioned.

But the fengshui masters (in lowyat forum) are keeping quiet about this.

Why lar ? They did not read these posts here or they dare not anti-IOI or they have different views ?

I would love to see all the fengshui master making comments on this.

This development has enough space to have more squarish design. But the architect refused to do it, the architect instead let the lifts eat up a corner ( sector ) of the square. Why lar ?
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Who is the feng shui master at lowyat here?

Another important aspect of assessing apartment and condo units is internal. Avoid choosing apartments or condos units with extremely odd shapes. This may look funky on the floor plan but results in very 'un-funky', unstable Qi and will give you a lot of problems with sharp corners.

From:
http://www.joeyyap.com/fengshui/article.asp?ArID=492


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Who is the feng shui master at lowyat here?

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People who are active in lowyat property fengshui talk, such as this thread :-

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3108356/all

One of them is Kevin Chan, he seems very active in the thread.

There are some older threads in lowyat property which talk about property fengshui.

But better if we can get the publicly known fengshui master ( Joey Yap, Kenny Hoo and others ) to directly comment on it. Then it's no more theory talk, it's practical application of the theory !

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The feng shui is already complicated subject when the house is square shape. Different sifu might has different theory. This one odd shape and comlicated, better dont look at fengshui if wanna buy it, u invite 10 sifu to look at it and you will get ten opinions.

To me simple is beauty. All square square even boring but better. This one just type C is ok coz just balcony odd shape, the other two type master bed room and balcony are odd shape.
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Triangular shape balcony saves building material and cost and good for developer? Being special in design perhaps can attract buyers.
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Triangular shape balcony saves building material and cost and good for developer? Being special in design perhaps can attract buyers.
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For me the odd/angular/triangular shape of balcony for Skyz play a very important to the facade of the building. It can be a signature to this building. Can we imagine how ugly of this building with a flat facade and standing on the most higher ground in Bandar Puchong Jaya and can be seen till Sunway?. If we doing a basic calculation the ground of Skyz at least around 15 storey high compare to Bukit Jalil Highway.

For me it doesn't serve or attract the buyer to buy this project or cut the construction cost rather that notable points of architectural interest and enhances the aesthetic appeal of the building.

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I reckon tis is a very good buy if below than 600/sf
- odd shape (room) is quite weird but ID can do something to cover
- Every unit is "isolated" unit (or I call it detached or "bungalow" unit), 1st in M'sia I presume
- Most cost incurred to build extra walls
- less build up area (due to detached design), developer is indeed profit lesser
- detached unit reduce notice pollution
- due to the design, the facade of the building shd be nice and sophisticated (as mes23 mentioned), the sharp edges of the entire building could probably a serious threat to surrounding housing?(feng shui?)

Disclaimer : I dun like IOI products but this project attracts my attention.

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I reckon tis is a very good buy if below than 600/sf
- odd shape (room) is quite weird but ID can do something to cover
- Every unit is "isolated" unit (or I call it detached or  "bungalow" unit), 1st in M'sia I presume
- Most cost incurred to build extra walls
- less build up area (due to detached design), developer is indeed profit lesser
- detached unit reduce notice pollution
- due to the design, the facade of the building shd be nice and sophisticated (as mes23 mentioned), the sharp edges of the entire building could probably a serious threat to surrounding housing?(feng shui?)

Disclaimer : I dun like IOI products but this project attracts my attention.
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need to disagree with some of your points boss.
every unit is isolated unit or bungalows in the sky have been done many times especially in mont kiara (eg. Banyan, MK10, etc).
less build up area? this is residential titled project. it is entirely up to developer to build more or build less.

anybody got renderings or perspective of this project.
the scale model photo was not very clear and size is a bit small.
colour scheme looks modern.
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One thing really puzzles me is that the developer is allocating ample space on the common area, but very stingy with respect to the space for units.

For example, the type C is missing one corner, because it is eaten by the lifts.

That few feet of space could have taken from the common area and nobody will make qualms on it.

Personally I don't see the angled balcony an issue, as the basic shape of the unit is still quite square. Except for type C. Type C is indeed missing one corner.

But in terms of investment, type C ( 11xx sf ) is the only one worth considering. Other types because of bigger built up, will be less mobile.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 5 2014, 09:20 AM)
One thing really puzzles me is that the developer is allocating ample space on the common area, but very stingy with respect to the space for units.

For example, the type C is missing one corner, because it is eaten by the lifts.

That few feet of space could have taken from the common area and nobody will make qualms on it.

Personally I don't see the angled balcony an issue, as the basic shape of the unit is still quite square. Except for type C. Type C is indeed missing one corner.

But in terms of investment, type C ( 11xx sf ) is the only one worth considering. Other types because of bigger built up, will be less mobile.
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Type C unit (Master room) is sharing the wall with the lift? I can foresee noise pollution, especially lower level unit.
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Type C unit (Master room) is sharing the wall with the lift? I can foresee noise pollution, especially lower level unit.
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Why would lower level be worse ? The noise comes from people ?
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Why would lower level be worse ? The noise comes from people ?
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More frequent lift activities at the lower floor mah.
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Yes, less lift activities in higher level.
if i m not wrong, Type C unit entrance is next to the garbage room?
Very very bad design.
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Yes, less lift activities in higher level.
if i m not wrong, Type C unit entrance is next to the garbage room?
Very very bad design.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 5 2014, 08:04 AM)
need to disagree with some of your points boss.
every unit is isolated unit or bungalows in the sky have been done many times especially in mont kiara (eg. Banyan, MK10, etc).
less build up area? this is residential titled project. it is entirely up to developer to build more or build less.

anybody got renderings or perspective of this project.
the scale model photo was not very clear and size is a bit small.
colour scheme looks modern.
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need to disagree with some of your points boss.
every unit is isolated unit or bungalows in the sky have been done many times especially in mont kiara (eg. Banyan, MK10, etc).
less build up area? this is residential titled project. it is entirely up to developer to build more or build less.

anybody got renderings or perspective of this project.
the scale model photo was not very clear and size is a bit small.
colour scheme looks modern.
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thanks.
much better shot.
but dunno what to make of it.

i wouldn't say it's gorgeous but neither is it ugly.

just cant describe it.
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i wouldn't say it's gorgeous but neither is it ugly.

just cant describe it.
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I can agak agak sense that this project facade is damm eye catching upon completion. You can't miss it when coming from Bdr sunway via LDP.

same as to coming from Sri Petaling

and when taking LRT.
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thanks.
much better shot.
but  dunno what to make of it.

i wouldn't say it's gorgeous but neither is it ugly.

just cant describe it.
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Win in terms of space, very ideal for family
Stand alone club house, tennis court, badminton hall
etc are a clear advantage.
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Win in terms of space, very ideal for family
Stand alone club house, tennis court, badminton hall
etc are a clear advantage.
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Part of 5.8 acres facilities and landscape decks.
Heard from SA they may not give any early bird discount but may introduce interest cash back programs.
Their discount voucher program value at RM10,000 at RM price of RM7,000 only limit to first 60 purchasers which they already start offering now.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 5 2014, 11:55 AM)
thanks.
much better shot.
but  dunno what to make of it.

i wouldn't say it's gorgeous but neither is it ugly.

just cant describe it.
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Maybe IOI should do better being the highest point in Puchong, like Fennel Sentul?
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QUOTE(linkor @ Jun 5 2014, 12:11 PM)
I can agak agak sense that this project facade is damm eye catching upon completion. You can't miss it when coming from Bdr sunway via LDP.

same as to coming from Sri Petaling

and when taking LRT.
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Taking LRT yes.

If driving, the structure if LRT line may block some of the view.
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Taking LRT yes.

If driving, the structure if LRT line may block some of the view.
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Coming from Sunway toll, the Skyz will be at the centre of sight towering high above Puchong's skyline. Massive.
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QUOTE(jtl50 @ Jun 5 2014, 03:24 PM)
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Some one can confirm whether live by the lift is going to be noisy?
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Some one can confirm whether live by the lift is going to be noisy?
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Most of times complain came from the vibrations in the lift shaft and the traveling cables rattling.

But a basic thing that we can do it and avoid it sound by soundproof the room with the walls closest to the lift shaft.
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jun 5 2014, 05:06 AM)
I reckon tis is a very good buy if below than 600/sf
- odd shape (room) is quite weird but ID can do something to cover
- Every unit is "isolated" unit (or I call it detached or  "bungalow" unit), 1st in M'sia I presume
- Most cost incurred to build extra walls
- less build up area (due to detached design), developer is indeed profit lesser
- detached unit reduce notice pollution
- due to the design, the facade of the building shd be nice and sophisticated (as mes23 mentioned), the sharp edges of the entire building could probably a serious threat to surrounding housing?(feng shui?)

Disclaimer : I dun like IOI products but this project attracts my attention.
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If phase 1 600psft n slowly increase to 700psft for last phase, wah I like the pricing..

But all biggie units are harder to swallow.. might need few yrs to fully selk all..
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need to disagree with some of your points boss.
every unit is isolated unit or bungalows in the sky have been done many times especially in mont kiara (eg. Banyan, MK10, etc).
less build up area? this is residential titled project. it is entirely up to developer to build more or build less.

anybody got renderings or perspective of this project.
the scale model photo was not very clear and size is a bit small.
colour scheme looks modern.
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KL prime location walking distance to LRT selling at much less than 600/sqft. Don't quite see how's 600/sqft a very good buy for skyz.
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KL prime location walking distance to LRT selling at much less than 600/sqft. Don't quite see how's 600/sqft a very good buy for skyz.
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You are referring to completed units gua ?
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KL prime location walking distance to LRT selling at much less than 600/sqft. Don't quite see how's 600/sqft a very good buy for skyz.
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What do you think the fair price for Skyz? Maybe IOI can consider it with pros n cons.

a. Le Yuan Residences - Happy Garden (FH) 670 Units at RM580psf
b. OUG Park Lane - OUG (FH) 1053 Units at RM490psf.
c. Benteng 8 - Old Klang Road 220 Units at RM730psf.
d. 9 Seputeh - Old KLang Road 824 units at RM800psf.
e. Pearl Suria - Old Klang Road 403 units at RM590psf.
f. Tiara Mutiara 2 - Old Klang Road 367 units at RM570psf.
g. Avantas Residences - Old Klang Road 198 units at 765psf.
h. The Petalz - Old Klang Road 565 units at RM650psf.
i. Verve Suites - Old Klang Road 321 units at RM1,000psf.

The nearest Geo Residences 2...RM950 with built up around 900sq.ft.
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What do you think the fair price for Skyz? Maybe IOI can consider it with pros n cons.

a. Le Yuan Residences - Happy Garden (FH) 670 Units at RM580psf
b. OUG Park Lane - OUG (FH) 1053 Units at RM490psf.
c. Benteng 8 - Old Klang Road 220 Units at RM730psf.
d. 9 Seputeh - Old KLang Road 824 units at RM800psf.
e. Pearl Suria - Old Klang Road 403 units at RM590psf.
f. Tiara Mutiara 2 - Old Klang Road 367 units at RM570psf.
g. Avantas Residences - Old Klang Road 198 units at 765psf.
h. The Petalz - Old Klang Road 565 units at RM650psf.
i. Verve Suites - Old Klang Road 321 units at RM1,000psf.

The nearest Geo Residences 2...RM950 with built up around 900sq.ft.
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Launch the project at 500psf, people will line up and buy tongue.gif a good start is very important for any project. I consider that a good buy.
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QUOTE(mes23 @ Jun 6 2014, 01:55 AM)
What do you think the fair price for Skyz? Maybe IOI can consider it with pros n cons.

a. Le Yuan Residences - Happy Garden (FH) 670 Units at RM580psf
b. OUG Park Lane - OUG (FH) 1053 Units at RM490psf.
c. Benteng 8 - Old Klang Road 220 Units at RM730psf.
d. 9 Seputeh - Old KLang Road 824 units at RM800psf.
e. Pearl Suria - Old Klang Road 403 units at RM590psf.
f. Tiara Mutiara 2 - Old Klang Road 367 units at RM570psf.
g. Avantas Residences - Old Klang Road 198 units at 765psf.
h. The Petalz - Old Klang Road 565 units at RM650psf.
i. Verve Suites - Old Klang Road 321 units at RM1,000psf.

The nearest Geo Residences 2...RM950 with built up around 900sq.ft.
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try eliminating all service apartment from the list and just compare purely residential project aka condominiums.
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Launch the project at 500psf, people will line up and buy tongue.gif a good start is very important for any project. I consider that a good buy.
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Quite a wishful thinking. LOL.

They have some bookings already.

And they allow transfer of the booking, ie they "promote" undercounter transactions between early flippers and final buyers.

So I don't really know if those bookings are real.


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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 6 2014, 09:40 AM)
Quite a wishful thinking. LOL.

They have some bookings already.

And they allow transfer of the booking, ie they "promote" undercounter transactions between early flippers and final buyers.

So I don't really know if those bookings are real.
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Wow, so good. IOI allowed transfer of the booking?


If one day fully booked ma, a lot of buyers able to flip immediately for overnight profit.


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Wow, so good. IOI allowed transfer of the booking?
If one day fully booked ma, a lot of buyers able to flip immediately for overnight profit.
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At the risk of losing RM 1k if you cannot find a buyer.

Better qualify it more clearly :-

I think they refer to those booked their units using the voucher scheme.

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What is the operating hour for ioi sales gallery?
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What do you think the fair price for Skyz? Maybe IOI can consider it with pros n cons.

a. Le Yuan Residences - Happy Garden (FH) 670 Units at RM580psf
b. OUG Park Lane - OUG (FH) 1053 Units at RM490psf.
c. Benteng 8 - Old Klang Road 220 Units at RM730psf.
d. 9 Seputeh - Old KLang Road 824 units at RM800psf.
e. Pearl Suria - Old Klang Road 403 units at RM590psf.
f. Tiara Mutiara 2 - Old Klang Road 367 units at RM570psf.
g. Avantas Residences - Old Klang Road 198 units at 765psf.
h. The Petalz - Old Klang Road 565 units at RM650psf.
i. Verve Suites - Old Klang Road 321 units at RM1,000psf.

The nearest Geo Residences 2...RM950 with built up around 900sq.ft.
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Recently one new launch at Setapak area launched at 500psf. It's selling fast. IOI got to learn from it.
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Recently one new launch at Setapak area launched at 500psf. It's selling fast. IOI got to learn from it.
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I don't think so IOI will sell at RM500 psf. This is the last land that IOI own in Bandar Puchong Jaya. More ever, located at the most higher ground .. nothing going to block the view .... is the selling point here at PRIME location. I believed after doing my own study easily average price at RM600 psf. onward.
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yup prime location, freehold, real residential condo status, but the access still got room to improve, still lack direct access through bukit jalil highway from sunway
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Like it or not, the shelfed or unknown status of LRT stn05 has a MAJOR impact on it.

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I don't think so IOI will sell at RM500 psf. This is the last land that IOI own in Bandar Puchong Jaya. More ever, located at the most higher ground .. nothing going to block the view .... is the selling point here at PRIME location.  I believed after doing my own study easily average price at RM600 psf. onward.
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Can share more of ur study why you suggest it is easily RM 600 psf onwards?

Btw, I also wont believe IOI would sell it at RM 500 psf. Takkan cheaper than The Zest along the road and summore, IOI.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 12 2014, 09:18 AM)
Can share more of ur study why you suggest it is easily RM 600 psf onwards?

Btw, I also wont believe IOI would sell it at RM 500 psf. Takkan cheaper than The Zest along the road and summore, IOI.
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Chris kor, ioi parc ville on the hill which i categorize as not so convenient location also goin 600psft..
also judging from their previous skypod launching 600psft for small unit, fast forward after 2 yrs i think 600psft will b the pricing for biggie units..

imho.. the acceptance pricing for puchong now i think around 600psft if not high 5++psft.. Setia Walk pricing going pretty steep too.. hmm.gif
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Chris kor, ioi parc ville on the hill which i categorize as not so convenient location also goin 600psft..
also judging from their previous skypod launching 600psft for small unit, fast forward after 2 yrs i think 600psft will b the pricing for biggie units..

imho.. the acceptance pricing for puchong now i think around 600psft if not high 5++psft.. Setia Walk pricing going pretty steep too..  hmm.gif
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Hehhehe, Twin Kor, quite agree with you.

The benchmark price now from any big developer is above RM 600 psf.

I also agree this piece of land is a lot better than Parc Ville. The only issue for me is the accessibility, like what elmond said, traffic from LDP Sunway.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 12 2014, 09:35 AM)
Hehhehe, Twin Kor, quite agree with you.

The benchmark price now from any big developer is above RM 600 psf.

I also agree this piece of land is a lot better than Parc Ville. The only issue for me is the accessibility, like what elmond said, traffic from LDP Sunway.
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traffic from Sunway LDP is ok lah,I stay near by. This location still better than Bdr Puteri, I have many neigbours moved out from Bdr Puteri to this part of Puchong for much better access.

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Average price is 650 psf. smaller unit 1100sf going for 700 psf, 1300sf going for 650 psf and 1500sf going for 600 psf. of course higher units higher price.
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Average price is 650 psf. smaller unit 1100sf going for 700 psf, 1300sf going for 650 psf and 1500sf going for 600 psf. of course higher units higher price.
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Anyone has info about current booking status ?

Personally I feel it will be slow.

IOI has been having quite a few slow moving launches recently. Lee is blaming to the tightening of loans. He is trying to comfort his ownself, aka, syiok sendiri.

http://biz.sinchew.com.my/node/96654

If they don't mind selling them slowly, they can continue with this pricing. Otherwise, they have to announce discount or rebate or something the like.




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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 12 2014, 10:20 AM)
Anyone has info about current booking status ?

Personally I feel it will be slow.

IOI has been having quite a few slow moving launches recently. Lee is blaming to the tightening of loans. He is trying to comfort his ownself, aka, syiok sendiri.

http://biz.sinchew.com.my/node/96654

If they don't mind selling them slowly, they can continue with this pricing. Otherwise, they have to announce discount or rebate or something the like.
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To me, they to too ambituous to launch it at 650psf. Maybe they are cash rich, they dont really mind to sell ot slowly.

I also feel it will be slow, but market responce is very tough to predict. Like INP kinrara service apartments launch 2 years ago i also tought going to be slow when they launch it at 600 psf, but within 1 week 90% of the units gone (not sure if i remember it correctly, old aledi, memory power faded).
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Jun 12 2014, 10:36 AM)
To me, they to too ambituous to launch it at 650psf. Maybe they are cash rich, they dont really mind to sell ot slowly.

I also feel it will be slow, but market responce is very tough to predict. Like INP kinrara service apartments launch 2 years ago i also tought going to be slow when they launch it at 600 psf, but within 1 week 90% of the units gone (not sure if i remember it correctly, old aledi, memory power faded).
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Thoe who invest around Puchong sure very happy as the price able to climb at 650 psf
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Jun 12 2014, 10:36 AM)
To me, they to too ambituous to launch it at 650psf. Maybe they are cash rich, they dont really mind to sell ot slowly.

I also feel it will be slow, but market responce is very tough to predict. Like INP kinrara service apartments launch 2 years ago i also tought going to be slow when they launch it at 600 psf, but within 1 week 90% of the units gone (not sure if i remember it correctly, old aledi, memory power faded).
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True, market response is quite tough to predict. Response/reaction in lowyat forum is not a good indicator. smile.gif

I say it will be slow because by using the voucher system, IOI has sort of started selling the units. The lower built up units ( 11xx sf ) are usually the fastest moving items but I see from their fancy software computer touch screen, still quite a number of choices available. But that was 1 or 2 weeks ago.
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As I went last week, there is already 60 people booking for the units. First 100 booking got some rebate. There is no discount, no rebate, no DISS. As usual, if u want to buy, just buy, if you don't, just leave.
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As I went last week, there is already 60 people booking for the units. First 100 booking got some rebate. There is no discount, no rebate, no DISS. As usual, if u want to buy, just buy, if you don't, just leave.
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In my definition 60 bookings thus far is considered slow. blink.gif

If it can't peak initially, it can't peak forever ! Kakaka.
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it has not launched yet. just booking only. will launch bloc C and E. should be around 400++ units.
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it has not launched yet. just booking only. will launch bloc C and E. should be around 400++ units.
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tan sir bit gung hoh and cash rich, slowly sell lo....
bcz location location location is key point here shocking.gif
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it has not launched yet. just booking only. will launch bloc C and E. should be around 400++ units.
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"Launch" is just formality only.

If the launch pricing is the same as now, to the interested buyers or flippers, what difference does it make if you book now verses when you book during launch ? If fact you buy during launch is a big disadvantage, because the better view units are already booked.


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I believe when it comes to launching, more people will come to buy. Being placed at average 650 psf, I would say it is fair. Even the I-City in Shah Alam is selling average over 800 psf.
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jun 12 2014, 09:29 AM)
Chris kor, ioi parc ville on the hill which i categorize as not so convenient location also goin 600psft..
also judging from their previous skypod launching 600psft for small unit, fast forward after 2 yrs i think 600psft will b the pricing for biggie units..

imho.. the acceptance pricing for puchong now i think around 600psft if not high 5++psft.. Setia Walk pricing going pretty steep too..  hmm.gif
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That's why parc vile is selling slow. For the number of units in skyz, I think they better have strong momentum going at the beginning.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 12 2014, 10:20 AM)
Anyone has info about current booking status ?

Personally I feel it will be slow.

IOI has been having quite a few slow moving launches recently. Lee is blaming to the tightening of loans. He is trying to comfort his ownself, aka, syiok sendiri.

http://biz.sinchew.com.my/node/96654

If they don't mind selling them slowly, they can continue with this pricing. Otherwise, they have to announce discount or rebate or something the like.
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According to their financial report recently, IOI is not doing as good as before, need to be smart at pricing.
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Jun 12 2014, 10:36 AM)
To me, they to too ambituous to launch it at 650psf. Maybe they are cash rich, they dont really mind to sell ot slowly.

I also feel it will be slow, but market responce is very tough to predict. Like INP kinrara service apartments launch 2 years ago i also tought going to be slow when they launch it at 600 psf, but within 1 week 90% of the units gone (not sure if i remember it correctly, old aledi, memory power faded).
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Maybe the pavillion2 effect is there...
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QUOTE(voonyoke @ Jun 12 2014, 01:24 PM)
I believe when it comes to launching, more people will come to buy. Being placed at average 650 psf, I would say it is fair. Even the I-City in Shah Alam is selling average over 800 psf.
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Is it "selling"? I wonder how many percent sold.
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QUOTE(voonyoke @ Jun 12 2014, 01:24 PM)
I believe when it comes to launching, more people will come to buy. Being placed at average 650 psf, I would say it is fair. Even the I-City in Shah Alam is selling average over 800 psf.
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We will know the truth when the time comes, and it will not be too long.

For me the market is already aware of skyz, and their reaction is already demonstrated, there is no reason why they have to wait for official launch to react to it. Unless IOI revised down the pricing or give additional benefits.

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Puchongite, ioi will never revise down the price. If you see the puteri hill townvilla, their sale only 20% but the price will never down. Buy it or leave it.
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Puchongite, ioi will never revise down the price. If you see the puteri hill townvilla, their sale only 20% but the price will never down. Buy it or leave it.
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No developer in the right frame of mind will revise down the selling price.

But they always play with discount and rebate.

They also always extend the rebate period or promotional period etc etc.

Since they have not "launched" the skyz, the bookings made so far is under a "nominal" price. So if they announced discount or rebate during the launch, they are still not considered "revising down" the price.

But we know what it means.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 12 2014, 05:08 PM)
No developer is in the right frame of mind will revise down the selling price.

But they always play with discount and rebate.

They also always extend the rebate period or promotional period etc etc.

Since they have not "launched" the skyz, the bookings made so far is under a "nominal" price. So if they announced discount or rebate during the launch, they are still not considered "revising down" the price.

But we know what it means.
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They are extremely kiasu when coming out with this voucher scheme with the selling price unfixed !

Come on, if they have confidence with their pricing against the market, they should fix the selling price !
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Puchongite, if you were them, you might not say so. They have their reasons to do that. They don't mind the units won't be taken up quickly. They can hold it for very long time as their holding power is much much stronger. For example, PFCC, the office occupation is quite low and slow, and they are 4 bloc and 1 bloc of hotel. I think 10 years also not enough to be fully occupied.
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Puchongite, if you were them, you might not say so. They have their reasons to do that. They don't mind the units won't be taken up quickly. They can hold it for very long time as their holding power is much much stronger. For example, PFCC, the office occupation is quite low and slow, and they are 4 bloc and 1 bloc of hotel. I think 10 years also not enough to be fully occupied.
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I have never doubted IOI's holding power. I have also never said selling slowly is bad for IOI.

I only predicted that, yes, it will be slow. Do you see my point ?
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I have never doubted IOI's holding power. I have also never said selling slowly is bad for IOI.

I only predicted that, yes, it will be slow. Do you see my point ?
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If you have too many projects that are selling slow, it's not good right?
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If you have too many projects that are selling slow, it's not good right?
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They will have to find a balancing point. That's why they are kiasu, selling properties without announcing official selling package.
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Agreed. Their holding power is really that strong enough for too many projects selling slow? hmm.gif
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Agreed. Their holding power is really that strong enough for too many projects selling slow?  hmm.gif
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Too many slow moving properties will give them not so good image.

And will also lock up their cash.
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Too many slow moving properties will give them not so good image.

And will also lock up their cash.
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The skyz will be completed in year 2018. The worst scenario, will the project be delayed or abandon?
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That's something quite unlikely lar.

If you cannot trust IOI for completion, you practically cannot trust 80% of developers in Malaysia.

My personal view.
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Puchongite, if you were them, you might not say so. They have their reasons to do that. They don't mind the units won't be taken up quickly. They can hold it for very long time as their holding power is much much stronger. For example, PFCC, the office occupation is quite low and slow, and they are 4 bloc and 1 bloc of hotel. I think 10 years also not enough to be fully occupied.
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Sorry out of Skyz topic. Four Points by Sheraton Puchong @ PFCC, Bandar Puteri Puchong - Opening November 1, 2014. IOI Properties knew what they do.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

By the way, Skyz Residence price has been finalise...and for the package they are offering (a) 5% "Cash Back Payment Scheme" to be paid in 5 times over 36 months depend on the first loan disbursement. (b) deferred payment scheme for differential sum up to 30% (max 70% loan) in 6 payments over 36 months & © free maintenance fees for first year upon VP. In general it is good package. Why..If you managed to get 90% loan, you just need to pay RM10,000.00 and the balance you can deferred into 36 months.

They are opening Block E ...Sunway/PJ/Shah Alam view & pool view/Ayer Hitam forest view with price for 1,162 sq.ft. @ RM625psf., 1,302 sq.ft. @ RM595psf & for 1,518 sq.ft. @ RM552psf. and 30 cents for maintenance fees.
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QUOTE(mes23 @ Jun 15 2014, 08:43 PM)
Sorry out of Skyz topic. Four Points by Sheraton Puchong @ PFCC, Bandar Puteri Puchong - Opening November 1, 2014. IOI Properties knew what they do.. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

By the way, Skyz Residence price has been finalise...and for the package they are offering (a) 5% "Cash Back Payment Scheme" to be paid in 5 times over 36 months depend on the first loan disbursement. (b) deferred payment scheme for differential sum up to 30% (max 70% loan) in 6 payments over 36 months & © free maintenance fees for first year upon VP. In general it is good package. Why..If you managed to get 90% loan, you just need to pay RM10,000.00 and the balance you can deferred into 36 months.

They are opening Block E ...Sunway/PJ/Shah Alam view & pool view/Ayer Hitam forest view with price for 1,162 sq.ft. @ RM625psf., 1,302 sq.ft. @ RM595psf & for 1,518 sq.ft. @ RM552psf. and 30 cents for maintenance fees.
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If I'm not mistaken, for 90% loan, the balance need to settle in 12 months, not 36 months.
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If I'm not mistaken, for 90% loan, the balance need to settle in 12 months, not 36 months.
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If I'm not mistaken, for 90% loan, the balance need to settle in 12 months, not 36 months.
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Thank you for correct it...yeah if 90% loan, the balance 10% should be settled in 12 months..5% on 6 months after minus deposit and the balance 5% at end 12 months.
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Thank you for correct it...yeah if 90% loan, the balance 10% should be settled in 12 months..5% on 6 months after minus deposit and the balance 5% at end 12 months.
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Price from 726k, 775k, and 838k, this price is out of reach of majority majority Malaysians. Even bank loan hard to get approval. How many percent of people can afford? For those who can afford, how many percent are interested in this project? Wonder how is the booking going for this project. Are there many units booked already?
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This coming Saturday and Sunday they are serving "light refreshment". Go and eat ! LOL.

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Price from 726k, 775k, and 838k, this price is out of reach of majority majority Malaysians. Even bank loan hard to get approval. How many percent of people can afford? For those who can afford, how many percent are interested in this project? Wonder how is the booking going for this project. Are there many units booked already?
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But The Potpourri at Ara Damansara (behind Citta Mall) sold almost 60% with price from Rm800 psf.....maybe the built-up area slightly smaller so absolute price lower.
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But The Potpourri at Ara Damansara (behind Citta Mall) sold almost 60% with price from Rm800 psf.....maybe the built-up area slightly smaller so absolute price lower.
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That's the point. When selling price is above 700k or 800k, bank will not easily approve the loan, bank evaluate based on individual income, not base on how cheap the unit price psf.
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Tomorrow don't forget makan-makan time @ Skyz Residence.
Pass by just now saw the canopy is there..
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The package is so so only...no kitchen cabinet no electrical appliance, credit card easy payment scheme only 18months not 36 months like what Sp setia doing...heard IOI gonna increase price on monday if the respond is good. Enjoy buying
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Tomorrow don't forget makan-makan time @ Skyz Residence.
Pass by just now saw the canopy is there..
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Free makan??! drool.gif drool.gif from what time to what time?
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how's sales? worth to invest?
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I did not take picture but seems there are some sales going on. It's moving. Both block c and e.
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I did not take picture but seems there are some sales going on. It's moving. Both block c and e.
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What is the price range for 1550sf?
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I went there to see the crowd and enjoy the food. I did not pay attention to the prices. Pai seh. blush.gif
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I went by the show units earlier. The 13xx sf seems pretty decent.
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752k for 1162 sqf. seems a little pricey. completion is june 2018. is it worth to invest? what will bukit jalil/ puchong town be like in 2018? and there's pavilion 2 along bukit jalil coming.. if so, might as well I buy other condos along bukit jalil, why this skyz?
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QUOTE(jtl50 @ Jun 17 2014, 02:38 PM)
Price from 726k, 775k, and 838k, this price is out of reach of majority majority Malaysians. Even bank loan hard to get approval. How many percent of people can afford? For those who can afford, how many percent are interested in this project? Wonder how is the booking going for this project. Are there many units booked already?
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Many can afford, up to 1.5 mil... I think all my colleages within my level can..
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Many can afford, up to 1.5 mil... I think all my colleages within my level can..
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Yup, 1.5M loan 1.35M only 6k++ installment a month. Just need 18k net pay per month to apply loan, gross pay probably 28k. Still many can afford. No worries, party still on !! rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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so, is this project a good buy?
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lol. not high also, how to landslide. u sure?
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Me come and enjoy the food..a lot of people there makan makan

For Skyz ...I think if they managed to sell 100 units at this price by end of this week...sure IOI Tan Sri will increase the price punya.
So let we see next week...any price adjustment or not.

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Don't bother about the sticker game ..

Me come and enjoy the food..a lot of people there makan makan

For Skyz ...I think if they managed to sell 100 units at this price by end of this week...sure IOI Tan Sri will increase the price punya.
So let we see next week...any price adjustment or not.
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what about tomorrow? still got serve makanan?
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what about tomorrow? still got serve makanan?
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Still got makan makan but tomorrow not coming..
Just rest a home ... Weather so hot loh
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Don't bother about the sticker game ..
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Me come and enjoy the food..a lot of people there makan makan

For Skyz ...I think if they managed to sell 100 units at this price by end of this week...sure IOI Tan Sri will increase the price punya.
So let we see next week...any price adjustment or not.
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I missed the food part la. nice food ah they serve?
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I missed the food part la. nice food ah they serve?
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Makan free ma ... Slightly western style not mee goreng or nasi goreng
Tomorrow menu not sure..

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If there are selling 1000 units, will it be too crowded? Price point wise, I think quite reasonable..
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If there are selling 1000 units, will it be too crowded? Price point wise, I think quite reasonable..
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wah. like that also reasonable ah? what's the selling point of this SKYZ RESIDENCE? for 700k++ I can have many other choices.
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IOI good developer mah.... Most ppl at puchong will buy puchong area.. I think a lot of new development will cost around that price..

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so, is this project a good buy?
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Francis Yeoh said: be prepared. Can you take the storm?
http://m.themalaymailonline.com/money/arti...ancis-yeoh-warn
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It's quite an irony that this comes from YTL. YTL prop has always been one of those taking the lead in forward pricing their products.
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anybody with the latest price chart to share?? tqvm..
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Makan free ma ... Slightly western style not mee goreng or nasi goreng
Tomorrow menu not sure..
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I wanted to go and makan too but 3pm+ no more makan. So went in to see people play sticker game tongue.gif
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I wanted to go and makan too but 3pm+ no more makan. So went in to see people play sticker game  tongue.gif
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Digested my lunch already. Anymore food there ?
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Where is the showroom?
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Digested my lunch already. Anymore food there ?
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Reached there @ 1pm today n all food finished xcept drink
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Francis Yeoh said: be prepared. Can you take the storm?
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I never doubt about ytl family ability. All are top university graduate. They can see things better.
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Reached there @ 1pm today n all food finished xcept drink
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IOI just can't shed the kiam siap image.
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800k condo but so little marketing money whistling.gif

SA keeps emphasis on 5 acre generous landscape and facilities for purchasers.
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800k condo but so little marketing money  whistling.gif

SA keeps emphasis on 5 acre generous landscape and facilities for purchasers.
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Likely the density is forced upon them by the authority which they have to comply.

Then just capitalize on it and blow their own horn.
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Saw the floor plan, interested on 1550sf. But I have a query that SA also can't answer me.
Anyone know what is the size (ft x ft) of each room?
1550sf including balcony and A/C ledge?

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Reached there @ 1pm today n all food finished xcept drink
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apart from gold and stock investments, U're also into properties as well ?

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IOI just can't shed the kiam siap image.
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I would think that the food were of decent quality, as opposed to the so call kiam siap image. Just couldn't keep up with the number of crowd going there.
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It's quite an irony that this comes from YTL. YTL prop has always been one of those taking the lead in forward pricing their products.
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Different person said otherwise. Who you going to believe?

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...s-iois-lee.html


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I would think that the food were of decent quality, as opposed to the so call kiam siap image. Just couldn't keep up with the number of crowd going there.
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Haha I went to villamas and other developers' launches before. Still have food at 3 pm++. biggrin.gif
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Different person said otherwise. Who you going to believe?

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...s-iois-lee.html
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Different person said otherwise. Who you going to believe?

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...s-iois-lee.html
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Listen to these people for amusement only !

All developers should be like Lee lah where got people like ytl say bubble bubble bubble and yet price their products high high some more ! I am not like some people like to kiss the backside of their bosses ..... Ex some more!
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Different person said otherwise. Who you going to believe?

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...s-iois-lee.html
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He has vested interest in the property market, so it is very difficult for him to say property will crash soon.... who is then going to buy IOI properties ? Some more his speech in "Invest Malaysia 2014"...so of course he is highly discouraged not to give -ve speech.

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Saw the floor plan, interested on 1550sf. But I have a query that SA also can't answer me.
Anyone know what is the size (ft x ft) of each room?
1550sf including balcony and A/C ledge?
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Balcony should be included or else everybody also want

a/c ledge should be excluded if without door, if with door counted as part of build up n include in maintenance fee computation

Pls confirm with developer
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Got 2 units for skyz. Pricing wise reasonable for luxury condo. There is pro n cons of this condo. If u r kind of like greenery with 5.8 acres n facilities, this will be your choice. Lrt x a selling point for luxury condo usually. For me it have to see wat r the concept, facilities n living concept the project can offered. Other point is the breathtaking view.

No doubt ioi is conservative previously. ButI can said ioi have step up differently which I can see from their upcoming project in putrajaya, city mall, skyz , ioi rio city n etc... They started planning more into lifestyle development. One more thing. Their spec provided also x bad which u can compare with mashing , sp and some bukit jalil new development. I used invest in sunway, old klang road n bukit jalil with some top developer , but this time skyz have change my mind towards ioi. Not to promote ioi but i means thi project psf is ok , with the finishing n concept is ok compre to others.

Landslide wasn't an issue. As they have started to construct n strengthening the wall since 2 years ago. Puteri 9 was a failure n lesson for them due didn't build up piling to strengthen in the wall. Haha... About 120 units was sold as at Sunday. Hope they r x increase the price as my friend would like to get 1 more unit.


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Balcony should be included or else everybody also want

a/c ledge should be excluded if without door, if with door counted as part of build up n include in maintenance fee computation

Pls confirm with developer
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QUOTE(jjjjjjjj @ Jun 22 2014, 11:53 PM)
Got 2 units for skyz. Pricing wise reasonable for luxury condo. There is pro n cons of this condo. If u r kind of like greenery with 5.8 acres n facilities, this will be your choice. Lrt x a selling point for luxury condo usually. For me it have to see wat r the concept, facilities n living concept the project can offered. Other point is the breathtaking view.

No doubt ioi is conservative previously. ButI can said ioi have step up differently which I can see from their upcoming project in putrajaya, city mall, skyz , ioi rio city n etc... They started planning more into lifestyle development. One more thing. Their spec provided also x bad which u can compare with mashing , sp and some bukit jalil new development. I used invest in sunway, old klang road n bukit jalil with some top developer , but this time skyz have change my mind towards ioi. Not to promote ioi but i means thi project psf is ok , with the finishing n concept is ok compre to others.

Landslide wasn't an issue. As they have started to construct n strengthening the wall since 2 years ago. Puteri 9 was a failure n lesson for them due didn't build up piling to strengthen in the wall. Haha... About 120 units was sold as at Sunday. Hope they r x increase the price as my friend would like to get 1 more unit.
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Since buying 2 units is like buying web market vegetables, why don't you buy 5 or more units ?
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Since buying 2 units is like buying web market vegetables, why don't you buy 5 or more units ?
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lol... i didn't mentioned like buying vege , 5 or more units.. but i was mentioned the project is worth to buy it with psf also ok . try go into galleria & lot of buyer saying first time ioi selling at cheaper psf with this finishing...

maybe you're the one only saying buying like vege... plus no need put all your money in one project. investment point you have to scatter all your money ma... pls dont get misundestand on my sharing above...
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QUOTE(jjjjjjjj @ Jun 23 2014, 09:35 AM)
lol... i didn't mentioned like buying vege , 5 or more units.. but i was mentioned the project is worth to buy it with psf also ok . try go into galleria & lot of buyer saying first time ioi selling at cheaper psf with this finishing...

maybe you're the one only saying buying like vege... plus no need put all your money in one project. investment point you have to scatter all your money ma... pls dont get misundestand on my sharing above...
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What finishing do they provide till buyer and you feel it is worth buying? Or what make you think is worth buying? Actually i cant see why this is worth buying. Maybe you can shed some light to me.

I think the 5.8 acres landscaping and facilities is just ok for 1000units condo. If they provide smaller area, during weekend evening when all people come out from their to enjoy the facilities, it will be people mountain people sea.


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QUOTE(nkhong @ Jun 23 2014, 11:13 AM)
What finishing do they provide till buyer and you feel it is worth buying? Or what make you think is worth buying? Actually i cant see why this is worth buying. Maybe you can shed some light to me.

I think the 5.8 acres landscaping and facilities is just ok for 1000units condo. If they provide smaller area, during weekend evening when all people come out from their to enjoy the facilities, it will be people mountain people sea.
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Jun 23 2014, 11:13 AM)
What finishing do they provide till buyer and you feel it is worth buying? Or what make you think is worth buying? Actually i cant see why this is worth buying. Maybe you can shed some light to me.

I think the 5.8 acres landscaping and facilities is just ok for 1000units condo. If they provide smaller area, during weekend evening when all people come out from their to enjoy the facilities, it will be people mountain people sea.
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Don't worry about "pmps", even sold out, upon project handover, occupancy rate will be far less than 50%. Because most buyers are investors. Look at Setiawalk.

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Don't worry about "pmps", even sold out, upon project handover, occupancy rate will be far less than 50%. Because most buyers are investors. Look at Setiawalk.
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I like the part where people mentioned in the other thread that skyz has 5 blocks, 2 of which will only be on sale upon completion.

Geng !
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I like the part where people mentioned in the other thread that skyz has 5 blocks, 2 of which will only be on sale upon completion.

Geng !
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there is block A, B, C, D and E.
when they opened for booking with the voucher first round, people was allowed to book block C, D, E. At that point they already mentioned block A and B not launching yet.
then a week before the launch they said block D will also be sold upon completion! means holding up 3 blocks.

probably to create the hype of 2 blocks sold out yadda yadda then they can increase price of the remaining 3 blocks~
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there is block A, B, C, D and E.
when they opened for booking with the voucher first round, people was allowed to book block C, D, E. At that point they already mentioned block A and B not launching yet.
then a week before the launch they said block D will also be sold upon completion! means holding up 3 blocks.

probably to create the hype of 2 blocks sold out yadda yadda then they can increase price of the remaining 3 blocks~
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Any mention that price increase of 5% today?
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Any mention that price increase of 5% today?
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Called the SA ... Based on last Saturday price that I have for unit C-23A-08 @ 940K and today price @ 967K.. It around 3% increase.
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Don't worry about "pmps", even sold out, upon project handover, occupancy rate will be far less than 50%. Because most buyers are investors. Look at Setiawalk.
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Called the SA ... Based on last Saturday price that I have for unit C-23A-08 @ 940K and today price @ 967K.. It around 3% increase.
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This kind of price strategy still can boast sales nowaday? I doubt it.

How many percent sold so far?

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This kind of price strategy still can boast sales nowaday? I doubt it.

How many percent sold so far?
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I think 30% only .... long way to go for this project.
I not see yet the advertisement out on newspaper.

But I can see the package offered is good. But based on current regulation where the developer can't mention the package on ads...more extra job for IOI SA to explain it to market.
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Called the SA ... Based on last Saturday price that I have for unit C-23A-08 @ 940K and today price @ 967K.. It around 3% increase.
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I was there today, you mean the price has increased since yesterday?
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A smaller built up new condo is more expensive than a ~10 year old landed property now.
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I was there today, you mean the price has increased since yesterday?
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Price adjusted by IOI today. I be there on Saturday for makan makan and informed by the SA girl that management may consider to adjust the price up by Monday. So, yes they keep their word and not use it as 'trap' for people to buy it.


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A smaller built up new condo is more expensive than a ~10 year old landed property now.
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Nobody seems to care. Developers keep jacking up house price, people just keep buying.
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Nobody seems to care. Developers keep jacking up house price, people just keep buying.
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thats the game !!  cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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Price adjusted by IOI today. I be there on Saturday for makan makan and informed by the SA girl that management may consider to adjust the price up by Monday. So, yes they keep their word and not use it as 'trap' for people to buy it.
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Price adjusted by IOI today. I be there on Saturday for makan makan and informed by the SA girl that management may consider to adjust the price up by Monday. So, yes they keep their word and not use it as 'trap' for people to buy it.
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Whoa scary. Price increase just after launch?  sweat.gif
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I thought they are open to their registeren n IOI existing buyer....preview only. I don't see their advertisement out yet in media.
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according to their computer system (not sticker count), at least 81 units (or 42% of 193 ) of blk E were taken up over the weekend.
prices for blk E (before 5% cash back n upward price revision on monday):
type A 1550 sf from rm855800 to rm927800 or rm552 psf to rm599 psf
type B 1334 sf from rm792800 to rm854800 or rm594 psf to rm641 psf
type C 1162 sf from rm728800 to rm800800 or rm627 psf to rm689 psf

all the units in blk C (N/S orientation) cost about rm20k more than their corresponding units in blk E (E/W orientation). therefore, type C 1162 sf units from 23rd floor onwards have already breached the rm700 psf waterfish mark.

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800k condo but so little marketing money  whistling.gif

SA keeps emphasis on 5 acre generous landscape and facilities for purchasers.
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Vincego...wanna to share about 'little marketing money'..maybe someone from IOI is watching this forum. Let them learn what public want to see.
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4 years is quite a long time in real estate terms. You'll never know what will happen by then. But I think one rule is usually right. If that area has no more land, then whoever wants it will need to pay more.

Puchong is already a well-known sustainable and good township. 4 years from now, it can only be better, with development pushing towards the putra jaya site. So, land value should go up here in Puchong Jaya.

And, the development is very nice with high end facilities. Access roads are reasonable to KL, PJ, and airport.

Of course, better to have strong holding power before you commit. Go see the show house and you'll like it. High price/high entry/no DIBS/etc also means less speculations and rich (and hopefully decent) neighbours. So, if can't flip, go there and enjoy the facilities until market recover.

4 years from now, I think 800k is a smaller figure. Put the down payment now and manage your finance for the next 48 months, plenty of times.

And, our society is already polarized. Rich will get richer and poor will get poorer. And, rich will want to buy up high end and price will be less elastic as comparing to mid/low cost development.

Puteri Hill is way over price (for today money) at 1 mil at that location. That's why it's very slow.

Skyz I think is at the right price for this location.

And, usually, buta-buta people make money. Investment is always blessed or cursed by luck.

So, I think it's a good buy.

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QUOTE(ngshawn @ Jun 25 2014, 01:53 PM)
4 years is quite a long time in real estate terms.  You'll never know what will happen by then.  But I think one rule is usually right.  If that area has no more land, then whoever wants it will need to pay more. 

Puchong is already a well-known sustainable and good township.  4 years from now, it can only be better, with development pushing towards the putra jaya site.  So, land value should go up here in Puchong Jaya.

And, the development is very nice with high end facilities.  Access roads are reasonable to KL, PJ, and airport.

Of course, better to have strong holding power before you commit.  Go see the show house and you'll like it.  High price/high entry/no DIBS/etc also means less speculations and rich (and hopefully decent) neighbours.  So, if can't flip, go there and enjoy the facilities until market recover.

4 years from now, I think 800k is a smaller figure.  Put the down payment now and manage your finance for the next 48 months, plenty of times.

And, our society is already polarized.  Rich will get richer and poor will get poorer.  And, rich will want to buy up high end and price will be less elastic as comparing to mid/low cost development.

Puteri Hill is way over price (for today money) at 1 mil at that location.  That's why it's very slow. 

Skyz I think is at the right price for this location.

And, usually, buta-buta people make money.  Investment is always blessed or cursed by luck. 

So, I think it's a good buy.
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You view might be correct but your credibility drops to close to ZERO because you are a new forumer. Kakaka ....
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You view might be correct but your credibility drops to close to ZERO because you are a new forumer. Kakaka ....
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Well, in most of the forum, I only read and don't really comment/reply. Same thing here. I'm just offering my view as a resident in Puchong. And, do hope this township goes up/premium so that my investment make money drool.gif
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Well, in most of the forum, I only read and don't really comment/reply.  Same thing here.  I'm just offering my view as a resident in Puchong.  And, do hope this township goes up/premium so that my investment make money drool.gif
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You have to post more then overtime as your post increases you will earn more credibility.

But as off right now, they think you have a private agenda.
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You have to post more then overtime as your post increases you will earn more credibility.

But as off right now, they think you have a private agenda.
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You have to post more then overtime as your post increases you will earn more credibility.

But as off right now, they think you have a private agenda.
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Well, can't blame people. Too many salesmen around and too many people with agendas.

IOI is a business entity. They make money. We try to make some money along site too. They have money purpose and we have greed. Both must be fuel by rational analytical sense with a bit of luck of the macro development.

It's interesting if this forum is still around 4 years from now. Then, let's see.
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Well, can't blame people.  Too many salesmen around and too many people with agendas. 

IOI is a business entity.  They make money.  We try to make some money along site too.  They have money purpose and we have greed.  Both must be fuel by rational analytical sense with a bit of luck of the macro development.

It's interesting if this forum is still around 4 years from now.  Then, let's see.
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Agreed with you point...rational analytical vs emotional analytical
As Puchongite said you may got some agenda but from what I saw you start registered back to June 2013...1 year already watching from the back of computer screen. Love to hear you point as Puchong resident...I'm invest in Puchong also with Sri Alpinia, Sri Cassia at Bandar Puteri (still keep) and sold Bayu Puteri, Semarak Apartment & R3 Setia Walk at Pusat Bandar Puchong, 2 storey PU5 @ Taman Puchong Utama and Southkey Moasic at JB.

All my investment in Puchong include my own house at BK4. tongue.gif

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Agreed with you point...rational analytical vs emotional analytical
As Puchongite said you may got some agenda but from what I saw you start registered back to June 2013...1 year already watching from the back of computer screen. Love to hear you point as Puchong resident...I'm invest in Puchong also with Sri Alpinia, Sri Cassia at Bandar Puteri (still keep) and sold Bayu Puteri, Semarak Apartment & R3 Setia Walk at Pusat Bandar Puchong, 2 storey PU5 @ Taman Puchong Utama and Southkey Moasic at JB.

All my investment in Puchong include my own house at BK4. tongue.gif
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wa!!! investment guru.

Initially, wanted to buy the puteri hill but after seeing their prices, I thought that it's crazy. Asked the sales girl how do I flip if it's already a million, takan can appreciate to 1.5 mil? and the sales girl told me, "uncle, these day ah, people buy houses with different purpose one. People buy house for their children because next generation can't afford anymore liao!". Almost drop my pant after hearing that.

Then, waited for this skyz project. I think 800k still ok. Can't say it's cheap but just ok.

Look at KLCI, already close to 1900 at historic high. PE ratio for most blue chip already very high. Risky over there too.

Buta-buta go in la... luck and behold. money money grow!

Oh, ps, I was from JB. Be careful with the investment there. Very unsustainable. Land big big and only development make money. If you make already, quickly sell and run.

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wa!!! investment guru.

Initially, wanted to buy the puteri hill but after seeing their prices, I thought that it's crazy.  Asked the sales girl how do I flip if it's already a million, takan can appreciate to 1.5 mil?  and the sales girl told me, "uncle, these day ah, people buy houses with different purpose one.  People buy house for their children because next generation can't afford anymore liao!".  Almost drop my pant after hearing that.

Then, waited for this skyz project.  I think 800k still ok.  Can't say it's cheap but just ok.

Look at KLCI, already close to 1900 at historic high.  PE ratio for most blue chip already very high.  Risky over there too.

Buta-buta go in la... luck and behold.  money money grow!

Oh, ps, I was from JB. Be careful with the investment there.  Very unsustainable.  Land big big and only development make money.  If you make already, quickly sell and run.
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When I buy in Southkey Moasic @ JB only Country Garden there launch 3,000 units but now another 4 China developer come and launch like what they did in China ...RF Properties launch 15 blocks at one time...so scare with Iskandar area.
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When I buy in Southkey Moasic @ JB only Country Garden there launch 3,000 units but now another 4 China developer come and launch like what they did in China ...RF Properties launch 15 blocks at one time...so scare with Iskandar area.
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that's what I said, if a lot of land, prices can't go up. Development will keep building and buyers want to buy new one. Then, only developer make money.

I think cyber jaya and putra jaya also same. If you look around, plenty of land still, how to appreciate.

that's why hong kong and singapore good place to invest. No more land and prices can only go up. never check on Penang, but same theory goes....

I learnt the hard way and lost 40% of my house value when I was in JB. So, good luck and quickly sell off. Chinese saying "lose less= take it as gain".
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There are a lot of development going around Puchong area.. i myself stay in Puchong Jaya area. I see they have very bad maintenance and the shops around there keeps me wondering will Puchong really boom?
look at the shoplots.. only ground floors are occupied and by middle class businesses (not like Taipan/Damansara)
level 1 and above all rented to those foreign workers working around those area

and IOI boulevard.. very good location but looks quite empty to me.. and the business of those occupants doesnt look too good either.

they rather hold the rental price high and not rent out than leasing out at lower price to create business opportunity for ppl to invest and populate the area.

Skyz best selling point is the location. thats about it. the illustration of big recreation area is not really impressive either if compared to other condos developers.

overall puchong still looks like a lower-middle class township. if they wanne make it a higher class community.. they might wanne start attracting big companies to setup business in the area first.



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So many contradicting statements, good, not good.... After reading them all, even harder to decide. I guess in the end, buy what you can afford... If for own stay, I think it's a good place; for investing, price will surely increase...

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Saw today at The Star...IOI advertise Skyz Residence on 1 page in National section and 2 pages in Metro section..Open For Sale 28 & 29 June 2014.
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Saw today at The Star...IOI advertise Skyz Residence on 1 page in National section and 2 pages in Metro section..Open For Sale 28 & 29 June 2014.
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There are a lot of development going around Puchong area.. i myself stay in Puchong Jaya area. I see they have very bad maintenance and the shops around there keeps me wondering will Puchong really boom?
look at the shoplots.. only ground floors are occupied and by middle class businesses (not like Taipan/Damansara)
level 1 and above all rented to those foreign workers working around those area

and IOI boulevard.. very good location but looks quite empty to me.. and the business of those occupants doesnt look too good either. 

they rather hold the rental price high and not rent out than leasing out at lower price to create business opportunity for ppl to invest and populate the area.

Skyz best selling point is the location. thats about it. the illustration of big recreation area is not really impressive either if compared to other condos developers.

overall puchong still looks like a lower-middle class township. if they wanne make it a higher class community.. they might wanne start attracting big companies to setup business in the area first.
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QUOTE(butterfleur23 @ Jun 25 2014, 04:35 PM)
There are a lot of development going around Puchong area.. i myself stay in Puchong Jaya area. I see they have very bad maintenance and the shops around there keeps me wondering will Puchong really boom?
look at the shoplots.. only ground floors are occupied and by middle class businesses (not like Taipan/Damansara)
level 1 and above all rented to those foreign workers working around those area

and IOI boulevard.. very good location but looks quite empty to me.. and the business of those occupants doesnt look too good either. 

they rather hold the rental price high and not rent out than leasing out at lower price to create business opportunity for ppl to invest and populate the area.

Skyz best selling point is the location. thats about it. the illustration of big recreation area is not really impressive either if compared to other condos developers.

overall puchong still looks like a lower-middle class township. if they wanne make it a higher class community.. they might wanne start attracting big companies to setup business in the area first.
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this are facts, mostly are undermaintain
look at IOI boulevard, inner ring, IOI Business park
even from setia walk links to tesco side, can see dumps, rubbish accumulated all over the pedestrian walkway

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QUOTE(yoki @ Jun 26 2014, 11:07 AM)
this are facts, mostly are undermaintain
look at IOI boulevard, inner ring, IOI Business park
even from setia walk links to tesco side, can see dumps, rubbish accumulated all over the pedestrian walkway
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I don't blame the developer for cleanliness issues.

I think it's something in the Chinese business men.

Most of the Chinese kopitiam, their back yard stings.

Their toilets are dirty.

The drains are all clogged.

Even the places where the tables where patrons sit, the floor a lot of oil stain and lots of rubbish.
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I don't blame the developer for cleanliness issues.

I think it's something in the Chinese business men.

Most of the Chinese kopitiam, their back yard stings.

Their toilets are dirty.

The drains are all clogged.

Even the places where the tables where patrons sit, the floor a lot of oil stain and lots of rubbish.
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This point I agree. The other day, brought a german friend to have breakfast at Bandar Puteri shoplots on Sunday morning, less car on the car park, I was so embarrassed that trash are everywhere. Feel that it's worst than Jakarta/Manila/Bangkok... vmad.gif

And, it's kind of same everywhere in KL, not just Puchong I think.

Don't have solution, just complaints.

Only suggestion is patron those clean restaurants. And, leave/speak loud if the area is dirty, "AIYO!! SO DIRTY AND SMELLY! HOW TO EAT HERE OH! COME COME, LET'S GO OVER THERE! CLEANER THERE!". Make sure the owner hears it. After a while, they know what to do. That's what I do.

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QUOTE(butterfleur23 @ Jun 25 2014, 04:35 PM)
There are a lot of development going around Puchong area.. i myself stay in Puchong Jaya area. I see they have very bad maintenance and the shops around there keeps me wondering will Puchong really boom?
look at the shoplots.. only ground floors are occupied and by middle class businesses (not like Taipan/Damansara)
level 1 and above all rented to those foreign workers working around those area

and IOI boulevard.. very good location but looks quite empty to me.. and the business of those occupants doesnt look too good either. 

they rather hold the rental price high and not rent out than leasing out at lower price to create business opportunity for ppl to invest and populate the area.

Skyz best selling point is the location. thats about it. the illustration of big recreation area is not really impressive either if compared to other condos developers.

overall puchong still looks like a lower-middle class township. if they wanne make it a higher class community.. they might wanne start attracting big companies to setup business in the area first.
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I'm sure he/she refer to old shops in puchong jaya. the cube in puteri is high class (lower/middle/higher high? how many grade do you have?). this place is frequent spots for making film.
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Jun 26 2014, 12:18 PM)
I'm sure he/she refer to old shops in puchong jaya. the cube in puteri is high class (lower/middle/higher high? how many grade do you have?). this place is frequent spots for making film.
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The cube is not higher class. It's just newer only.

Whenever there are these kind of shops :-

1. Food and beverage.
2. Motor Vehicle maintenance.
3. ....

After a few years ( say 5 years ), it will be condemned !
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 26 2014, 12:27 PM)
The cube is not higher class. It's just newer only.

Whenever there are these kind of shops :-

1. Food and beverage.
2. Motor Vehicle maintenance.
3. ....

After a few years ( say 5 years ), it will be condemned !
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Jun 26 2014, 12:18 PM)
I'm sure he/she refer to old shops in puchong jaya. the cube in puteri is high class (lower/middle/higher high? how many grade do you have?). this place is frequent spots for making film.
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I think most of the upper floors of shop lots around Tesco are occupied by foreigners. Is there a thing you can do about it? It's called Bandar Puchong, and the shop lots are supposed to be rented to businesses to be made offices. Why the owners would lower down their properties value by renting to foreigners? To increase property value, the foreigners need to be taken care of...
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I think most of the upper floors of shop lots around Tesco are occupied by foreigners. Is there a thing you can do about it? It's called Bandar Puchong, and the shop lots are supposed to be rented to businesses to be made offices. Why the owners would lower down their properties value by renting to foreigners? To increase property value, the foreigners need to be taken care of...
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Time will change everything. Even eyesore highrise will go too. It's called Pusat Bandar Puchong.
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Jun 26 2014, 03:36 PM)
Time will change everything. Even eyesore highrise will go too. It's called Pusat Bandar Puchong.
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Tesco shoplots is almost disastrous..I was referring to whole Puchong Jaya, Bandar Puteri in general
Bandar Puteri still looks ok because it is newer.
just matter of time it joins Puchong Jaya i guess..
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drove pass from bukit jalil left hand side shell station before right hand side furniture shop lots and petronas
saw some existing concrete floors
looked precariously high
no confident whether landslide will occur
irdk land one may be better on flat land

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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Jun 26 2014, 08:31 PM)
drove pass from bukit jalil left hand side shell station before right hand side furniture shop lots and petronas
saw some existing concrete floors
looked precariously high
no confident whether landslide will occur
irdk land one may be better on flat land
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Have you checked the irdk built up ? Starting around 2000 sf .... Kakaka.
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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Jun 26 2014, 08:31 PM)
drove pass from bukit jalil left hand side shell station before right hand side furniture shop lots and petronas
saw some existing concrete floors
looked precariously high
no confident whether landslide will occur
irdk land one may be better on flat land
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Bro..irdk good luck to you
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QUOTE(mes23 @ Jun 26 2014, 09:53 PM)
Bro..irdk good luck to you
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Irdk going to change their plan? Kind of worry about them.
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Have you checked the irdk built up ? Starting around 2000 sf .... Kakaka.
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I read back the post I made about irdk residenz, apparently it's starting from 15xx sf.

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where is the entrance to skyz? right after shell station on the left?
that road is quite steep i remember (makan fuel to go up)
why there is existing building there?
half completed i think 4-5 storeys like abandoned project before
no doubt IOI better name than irdk but irdk location is quite good facing tesco and in front lots of shops
with skyz, i think have to make u turn depending on which direction in and out
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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Jun 27 2014, 01:52 PM)
where is the entrance to skyz? right after shell station on the left?
that road is quite steep i remember (makan fuel to go up)
why there is existing building there?
half completed i think 4-5 storeys like abandoned project before
no doubt IOI better name than irdk but irdk location is quite good facing tesco and in front lots of shops
with skyz, i think have to make u turn depending on which direction in and out
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Bro different target market loo..I think as the creator of another Skyz forum mind, the sub-line told everything "Crown of Puchong, Overlooking the Rest" vs facing Tesco (it is totally different ball of game loooo). But money decision is on everyone hand..

What I saw from the site, the 4-5 storey is the car park podium level for Tower A & B

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QUOTE(mes23 @ Jun 27 2014, 02:14 PM)
Bro different target market loo..I think as the creator of another Skyz forum mind, the sub-line told everything  "Crown of Puchong, Overlooking the Rest" vs facing Tesco (it is totally different ball of game loooo). But money decision is on everyone hand..

What I saw from the site, the 4-5 storey is the car park podium level for Tower A & B
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I feel kinda strange when they already have few floors of car park floors constructed but nothing on the top
No visible sign of construction crane, tower, etc.
It does look like revive a previous abandoned project
Is this the case?
buy to flip?
or rental?
which is better?

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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Jun 27 2014, 03:15 PM)
I feel kinda strange when they already have few floors of car park floors constructed but nothing on the top
No visible sign of construction crane, tower, etc.
It does look like revive a previous abandoned project
Is this the case?
buy to flip?
or rental?
which is better?
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IMO, think this is more buy to stay. not to rent (majority foreign workers at Puchong cant afford rental at Skyz) and not to flip (because IOI holding units to sell at higher price) UNLESS one have holding power then can rent/flip

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Wow so fast increase price. cry.gif


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according to their computer system (not sticker count), at least 81 units (or 42% of 193 ) of blk E were taken up over the weekend.
prices for blk E (before 5% cash back n upward price revision on monday):
type A 1550 sf from rm855800 to rm927800 or rm552 psf to rm599 psf
type B 1334 sf from rm792800 to rm854800 or rm594 psf to rm641 psf
type C 1162 sf from rm728800 to rm800800 or rm627 psf to rm689 psf

all the units in blk C (N/S orientation) cost about rm20k more than their corresponding units in blk E (E/W orientation). therefore, type C 1162 sf units from 23rd floor onwards have already breached the rm700 psf waterfish mark.

blk E weekend sales
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QUOTE(butterfleur23 @ Jun 27 2014, 03:21 PM)
IMO, think this is more buy to stay. not to rent (majority foreign workers at Puchong cant afford rental at Skyz) and not to flip (because IOI holding units to sell at higher price) UNLESS one have holding power then can rent/flip
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with sky high pricing, probably rental cannot sustain the loan repayment and i really wonder who will buy at flippin' time when the pricing at launch is already so high
is there genuine buyer buy to stay?
we are entering over supply market now right? but still many have the cash to just buy buy buy vegetable mode
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if buy to stay sure sakit hati payin high interest to bank just because we want to live at skyz...seeing the sky
maybe still go for lower pricing properties to stay
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QUOTE(enkil @ Jun 27 2014, 06:22 PM)
Wow so fast increase price.  cry.gif
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...don't play this game at 'ulu' place..sure bungkus punya
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saw a lot of people at the sales/show house at the cube, anyone know how's the sales of Skyz over last weekend?
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saw a lot of people at the sales/show house at the cube, anyone know how's the sales of Skyz over last weekend?
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Alot of ppl went last week.. but sales still slow..
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hi all,

i booked a unit 2 weeks ago and as mentioned one of the incentives was an easy payment scheme for the deposit. they prepared an agreement letter for this and i happily signed it without going through it in detail (my mistake).

however after reading through the terms again a few days ago i realised there is a clause that states i cannot claim for liquidated damages for late delivery. i admit it's my fault for not reading the terms more carefully, but i did not expect that such a clause would appear in an easy payment scheme agreement letter, and the ioi staff did not highlight this at all before i signed. i feel kinda cheated sad.gif to all skyz buyers, did u object to or manage to get ioi to remove this clause? i plan to call them tomorrow to appeal this matter.
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QUOTE(incognito @ Jun 30 2014, 10:01 PM)

however after reading through the terms again a few days ago i realised there is a clause that states i cannot claim for liquidated damages for late delivery. i admit it's my fault for not reading the terms more carefully, but i did not expect that such a clause would appear in an easy payment scheme agreement letter, and the ioi staff did not highlight this at all before i signed.
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Wow, this clause is a painful one. Could that be the cause of the slow sales happening?
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Is it legal to do it in the first place? Suppose housing development act have a standard rule regarding late delivery.
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QUOTE(incognito @ Jun 30 2014, 10:01 PM)
hi all,

i booked a unit 2 weeks ago and as mentioned one of the incentives was an easy payment scheme for the deposit. they prepared an agreement letter for this and i happily signed it without going through it in detail (my mistake).

however after reading through the terms again a few days ago i realised there is a clause that states i cannot claim for liquidated damages for late delivery. i admit it's my fault for not reading the terms more carefully, but i did not expect that such a clause would appear in an easy payment scheme agreement letter, and the ioi staff did not highlight this at all before i signed. i feel kinda cheated sad.gif to all skyz buyers, did u object to or manage to get ioi to remove this clause? i plan to call them tomorrow to appeal this matter.
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Hi incognito, me too didn't realize on this clause.
Have you happened to check with them already?


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QUOTE(Pororo@1313 @ Jul 1 2014, 10:30 AM)
Hi incognito, me too didn't realize on this clause.
Have you happened to check with them already?
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Are you guys sure you read the clauses correctly ?

Maybe they are referring to the interest bearing scheme or something like that ?

I remember their skypod interest bearing scheme has a expiry to it, meaning if the project is delayed, then they won't bear the interest due to project delay beyond a specific date.




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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 1 2014, 10:36 AM)
Are you guys sure you read the clauses correctly ?

Maybe they are referring to the interest bearing scheme or something like that ?

I remember their skypod interest bearing scheme has a expiry to it, meaning if the project is delayed, then they won't bear the interest due to project delay beyond a specific date.
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here's the exact clause verbatim:

I/we agree to waive my/our right to claim for liquidated damages for late delivery, if applicable, in respect of the period beginning from the date of this letter and ending on the date of the Agreement.

doesn't sound like it's regarding the interest bearing scheme. will be calling them in a bit.
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QUOTE(incognito @ Jul 1 2014, 10:47 AM)
here's the exact clause verbatim:

I/we agree to waive my/our right to claim for liquidated damages for late delivery, if applicable, in respect of the period beginning from the date of this letter and ending on the date of the Agreement.

doesn't sound like it's regarding the interest bearing scheme. will be calling them in a bit.
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Haha very carefully worded and so it does not void the SPA.

Yes indeed it means you are giving up your rights to claim for the LAD !

This developer is so mean ! They give you something ( the voucher ) and they will want something back from you !
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go ahead lah.
am pretty sure when push turns to shove, one person go report tribunal, almost guarantee sure win one lah.
no worries.
clearly ioi would be penalised if they are late.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 1 2014, 11:00 AM)
go ahead lah.
am pretty sure when push turns to shove, one person go report tribunal, almost guarantee sure win one lah.
no worries.
clearly ioi would be penalised if they are late.
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If so certain that the tribunal will side the buyers, why would IOI want to try their luck on it ? icon_rolleyes.gif
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once spoken to a lawyer specialize in housing loan. She also complaint that when she brought a house, she's also buta-buta sign the SPA. It's so complicated and they should send all lawyer back to english school.

anyway, that's why people are buying from reputable developer, especially those who got burnt before in 1997/98 crisis.


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If so certain that the tribunal will side the buyers, why would IOI want to try their luck on it ?  icon_rolleyes.gif
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ioi typical chinaman mah.
kiasi.
but pretty sure if go court, sure lose lah.
besides spa for resi cannot be modified.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 1 2014, 11:20 AM)
ioi typical chinaman mah.
kiasi.
but pretty sure if go court, sure lose lah.
besides spa for resi cannot be modified.
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If you read the sentences, it does not modify the SPA at all.

Whatever in the HDA specified SPA is still valid.

It's the buyers who "voluntarily" give up their rights after signing the document.
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QUOTE(ngshawn @ Jul 1 2014, 11:10 AM)
once spoken to a lawyer specialize in housing loan.  She also complaint that when she brought a house, she's also buta-buta sign the SPA.  It's so complicated and they should send all lawyer back to english school.

anyway, that's why people are buying from reputable developer, especially those who got burnt before in 1997/98 crisis.
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So this developer who make buyers sign that kind of document is considered reputable or not ?

I am sol confused. whistling.gif
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The waiver of the right to claim for liquidated damages for late delivery is only "in respect of the period beginning from the date of this letter and ending on the date of the Agreement"


I wonder what does it mean??? unsure.gif
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The waiver of the right to claim for liquidated damages for late delivery is only "in respect of the period beginning from the date of this letter and ending on the date of the Agreement"


I wonder what does it mean??? unsure.gif
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Maybe it's this kiasi fella says that you can't claim LAD for the period of you place the booking till the beginning of SPA ?

Which is already something understood but by making it more explicit, more people are confused by it ?

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 1 2014, 01:47 PM)
Maybe it's this kiasi fella says that you can't claim LAD for the period of you place the booking till the beginning of SPA ?

Which is already something understood but by making it more explicit, more people are confused by it ?
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Boss puchongite, LAD is for late delivery of the prop ma, but this Clause is talking about the period even before or during the construction period??? So to me, the Clause does not make any sense!!! rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(BRE @ Jul 1 2014, 12:53 PM)
Boss puchongite, LAD is for late delivery of the prop ma, but this Clause is talking about the period even before or during the construction period??? So to me, the Clause does not make any sense!!! rclxub.gif
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Boss I am as confused as you are, but I am just trying to find an explanation for the "confusing" clause.

Maybe, it's just maybe, IOI trying to clarify that one cannot claim any liquidated ( monetary ) damages for the period starting from the booking till the starting date of SPA, ie construction period only starts from the SPA date.

Which is something people already know. But maybe IOI is trying to make it clearer to buyers. But by do so, more people are confused ?

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QUOTE(BRE @ Jul 1 2014, 12:40 PM)
The waiver of the right to claim for liquidated damages for late delivery is only "in respect of the period beginning from the date of this letter and ending on the date of the Agreement"


I wonder what does it mean??? unsure.gif
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biggrin.gif haha, i have the same question also. ".....beginning from the date of this letter and ending on the date of the Agreement" means from now till the day u sign the SPA? No LAD in this period, right?

I am assuming "the Agreement" referring to the SPA. Correct arr? Anyway, when letter is read in full content, it could mean otherwise.

Anw, agree with Kochin, developer can ask u to sign letter to waive ur right for LAD claims in this manner, but that doesnt stop purchaser from claiming their LAD in Tribunal.

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QUOTE(SAHM @ Jul 1 2014, 01:07 PM)
biggrin.gif haha, i have the same question also. ".....beginning from the date of this letter and ending on the date of the Agreement" means from now till the day u sign the SPA? No LAD in this period, right?

I am assuming "the Agreement" referring to the SPA. Correct arr? Anyway, when letter is read in full content, it could mean otherwise.

Anw, agree with Kochin, developer can ask u to sign letter to waive ur right for LAD claims in this manner, but that doesnt stop purchaser from claiming their LAD in Tribunal.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 1 2014, 02:03 PM)
Boss I am as confused as you are, but I am just trying to find an explanation for the "confusing" clause.

Maybe, it's just maybe, IOI trying to clarify that one cannot claim any liquidated ( monetary )  damages for the period starting from the booking till  the starting date of SPA, ie construction period only starts from the SPA date.

Which is something people already know. But maybe IOI is trying to make it clearer to buyers. But by do so, more people are confused ?
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Boss, I think the LAD is calculated from the date the developer is supposed to hand over the prop till the date they actually hand over the prop right? For example, SPA signed on 1/1/14 and developer should hand over prop in 3 years time ie on 31/12/16. So if developer hand over the prop 1 month later on 31/1/17, the LAD is calculated based on 1 month late delivery.

However, this Clause is talking about date of the letter to SPA date??? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 1 2014, 01:03 PM)
Boss I am as confused as you are, but I am just trying to find an explanation for the "confusing" clause.

Maybe, it's just maybe, IOI trying to clarify that one cannot claim any liquidated ( monetary )  damages for the period starting from the booking till  the starting date of SPA, ie construction period only starts from the SPA date.

Which is something people already know. But maybe IOI is trying to make it clearer to buyers. But by do so, more people are confused ?
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As I mention early, I bought almost 4 properties from IOI and sign the same letter what you sign. As I also asking them last time about this clause. So, you should read the clause together with the clause before:

Clause Before : In the event and notwithstanding that an extension of time may given at your absolute discretion to execute the SPA, I/we agree for the SPA to be dated on the last day of the Grace Period (as stated in the Sales Form) regardless of the actual date of the SPA is signed) - YOU ASKING EXTENSION TO SIGN SPA

Clause After : In consideration of you acceding to my/our above request, I/we agree to waive my/our right to claim for liquidated damages for late delivery, if applicable, in respect of the period beginning from the date of this letter and ending on the date of Agreement. - IOI AGREED ON THE EXTENSION AT YOUR RISK CAN'T CLAIM LAD

What that mean : In actual coz you are asking the extension of signing SPA, the number of date you can't claim for LAD is from the BOOKING DATE until the DATE WHEN YOU SIGNING SPA. That is the meaning of that clause friend. LAD still run after that.

Sample : Booking Date 1/7/2014. And you should sign SPA within 14 days but you asking further extension until 30/7/2014. So the date you signing SPA is 30/7/2014. Therefore there are 30 days you can't claim the LAD (if any) due to your request.

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QUOTE(mes23 @ Jul 1 2014, 02:24 PM)
As I mention early, I bought almost 4 properties from IOI and sign the same letter what you sign. As I also asking them last time about this clause. So, you should read the clause together with the clause before:

Clause Before : In the event and notwithstanding that an extension of time may given at your absolute discretion to execute the SPA, I/we agree for the SPA to be dated on the last day of the Grace Period (as stated in the Sales Form) regardless of the actual date of the SPA is signed) - YOU ASKING EXTENSION TO SIGN SPA

Clause After : In consideration of you acceding to my/our above request, I/we agree to waive my/our right to claim for liquidated damages for late delivery, if applicable, in respect of the period beginning from the date of this letter and ending on the date of Agreement. - IOI AGREED ON THE EXTENSION AT YOUR RISK CAN'T CLAIM LAD

What that mean : In actual coz you are asking the extension of signing SPA,  the number of date you can't claim for LAD is from the BOOKING DATE until the DATE WHEN YOU SIGNING SPA. That is the meaning of that clause friend. LAD still run after that.

Sample : Booking Date 1/7/2014. And you should sign SPA within 14 days but you asking further extension until 30/7/2014. So the date you signing SPA is 30/7/2014. Therefore there are 30 days you can claim the LAD (if any) due to your request.
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thnx for the clarification mes23, however the way they worded it is very confusing. i thought LAD is for late delivery of said property? how is it possible that the property would be completed within the stated extension period? rclxub.gif
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thnx for the clarification mes23, however the way they worded it is very confusing. i thought LAD is for late delivery of said property? how is it possible that the property would be completed within the stated extension period?  rclxub.gif
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Ayyyah..Small matter only..share share what I knew. We are only layman who lay 'golden egg' to buy properties but the letter drafted by the people with LLB (Hons) at the back of their name.

VP should be calculated from the SPA date. But now due to our request to extend the date of SPA, IOI agreed at our expenses that LAD should be calculated from the last dated that we asking for extension. It 'fair' business in both parties. Only we are not clear even the lawyer is self. biggrin.gif

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Ayyyah..Small matter only..share share what I knew. We are only layman who lay 'golden egg' to buy properties but the letter drafted by the people with LLB (Hons) at the back of their name.

VP should be calculated from the SPA date. But now due to our request to extend the date of SPA, IOI agreed at our expenses that LAD should be calculated from the last dated that we asking for extension. It 'fair' business in both parties. Only we are not clear even the lawyer is self.  biggrin.gif
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ahhhh... understood understood. i agree that's the fair scenario la, cant expect them to pay LAD even though i asked for extension. ok thnx again! to everyone else, sorry for the false alarm sweat.gif
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cheapest is close to 800k for condo
can buy meh?
this kind of pricing probably deserves a place like mont kiara etc.
here is only puchong
location not much different from all other condos along ldp from ioi mall until bandar puteri
buy medium cost apartment and dump in 200K renovation probably still less than 800K but looks luxury

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with crazy pricing within a short time we see all condos in puchong at RM 1million. so many millionaire out there to feed the bank interests meh?
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QUOTE(butterfleur23 @ Jun 25 2014, 04:35 PM)
There are a lot of development going around Puchong area.. i myself stay in Puchong Jaya area. I see they have very bad maintenance and the shops around there keeps me wondering will Puchong really boom?
look at the shoplots.. only ground floors are occupied and by middle class businesses (not like Taipan/Damansara)
level 1 and above all rented to those foreign workers working around those area

and IOI boulevard.. very good location but looks quite empty to me.. and the business of those occupants doesnt look too good either. 

they rather hold the rental price high and not rent out than leasing out at lower price to create business opportunity for ppl to invest and populate the area.

Skyz best selling point is the location. thats about it. the illustration of big recreation area is not really impressive either if compared to other condos developers.

overall puchong still looks like a lower-middle class township. if they wanne make it a higher class community.. they might wanne start attracting big companies to setup business in the area first.
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there are so many foreigners in puchong
look at the old shop lots
you can instantly feel this is not malaysia but in 3rd world countries
when you compare with usj you can instantly feel there is class difference
also puchong is considered as over supply
everything you can get in puchong so those continue to build integrated concept will find it hard to attract tenants to come except another mamak, nrmal cafe, etc. which most likely cannot last long except mamak because it provides the basic
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true
there are so many foreigners in puchong
look at the old shop lots
you can instantly feel this is not malaysia but in 3rd world countries
when you compare with usj you can instantly feel there is class difference
also puchong is considered as over supply
everything you can get in puchong so those continue to build integrated concept will find it hard to attract tenants to come except another mamak, nrmal cafe, etc. which most likely cannot last long except mamak because it provides the basic
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I think these foreign workers will slowly move away after the construction jobs are done. Looking at the available lands, it's most likely will push to the direction of cyber jaya/putra jaya/SKVE. It's growing pain I think.
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I think these foreign workers will slowly move away after the construction jobs are done.  Looking at the available lands, it's most likely will push to the direction of cyber jaya/putra jaya/SKVE.  It's growing pain I think.
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Agreed with you...slowly they all follow the moment of development toward south...except the "guy from far far away land" ...the guy who can print money haaaaa
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QUOTE(ngshawn @ Jul 2 2014, 09:02 AM)
I think these foreign workers will slowly move away after the construction jobs are done.  Looking at the available lands, it's most likely will push to the direction of cyber jaya/putra jaya/SKVE.  It's growing pain I think.
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The construction workers are not the biggest problem.

It's the Pak H. which is what most people are bothered.

Furthermore if the migration theory holds, Puchong being a big area, it will be at least 10 more years before you see distinct effect of migration on Puchong outlook.
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QUOTE(ngshawn @ Jul 2 2014, 09:02 AM)
I think these foreign workers will slowly move away after the construction jobs are done.  Looking at the available lands, it's most likely will push to the direction of cyber jaya/putra jaya/SKVE.  It's growing pain I think.
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not really construction workers alone
there are those already set up their life in puchong
those having family
those running operate food stalls
you can see almost majority of food stalls operate by foreign workers
so unless immigration comes again to check else you can feel we live in 3rd world country
bandar puchong jaya plenty and pusat bandar puchong
i am sure other puchong areas many too
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PH a lot in setiawalk drinking and play snooker
where their money comes from? mix with local ladies too
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PH a lot in setiawalk drinking and play snooker
where their money comes from? mix with local ladies too
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They print 'greenback' bro!
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They print 'greenback' bro!
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As far as I know there are quite a number of shops in pusat bandar puchong and bandar puteri which managed to survive because of the PH buying liquor from them.

Otherwise, these shops will have to be closed or doing other businesses.
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As I mention early, I bought almost 4 properties from IOI and sign the same letter what you sign. As I also asking them last time about this clause. So, you should read the clause together with the clause before:

Clause Before : In the event and notwithstanding that an extension of time may given at your absolute discretion to execute the SPA, I/we agree for the SPA to be dated on the last day of the Grace Period (as stated in the Sales Form) regardless of the actual date of the SPA is signed) - YOU ASKING EXTENSION TO SIGN SPA

Clause After : In consideration of you acceding to my/our above request, I/we agree to waive my/our right to claim for liquidated damages for late delivery, if applicable, in respect of the period beginning from the date of this letter and ending on the date of Agreement. - IOI AGREED ON THE EXTENSION AT YOUR RISK CAN'T CLAIM LAD

What that mean : In actual coz you are asking the extension of signing SPA,  the number of date you can't claim for LAD is from the BOOKING DATE until the DATE WHEN YOU SIGNING SPA. That is the meaning of that clause friend. LAD still run after that.

Sample : Booking Date 1/7/2014. And you should sign SPA within 14 days but you asking further extension until 30/7/2014. So the date you signing SPA is 30/7/2014. Therefore there are 30 days you can't claim the LAD (if any) due to your request.
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What is PH ?
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oh.. yea they are all over Puchong Jaya..
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oh.. yea they are all over Puchong Jaya..
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if PH from america then different class right?

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i wonder why people buy skyz so expensive?
cannot buy landed meh 2nd hand and renovate?
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if PH from america then different class right?
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We cannot discriminate people just based on their kulit-fication or the country where they come from.

What's relevant is that these PH what do they do here ? Do they really come here to study ? What work do they do ? Do they party, drink and make loud noise .....
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We cannot discriminate people just based on their kulit-fication or the country where they come from.

What's relevant is that these PH what do they do here ? Do they really come here to study ? What work do they do ? Do they party, drink and make loud noise .....
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correct but when one particular race gets too many and they hang around
watch people
look at people we as individual would feel overwhelmed and sometimes threatened
even in klang valley some places i saw them about 7 sitting and drinking in a normal chinese restaurant but they start to hold the hands of the indon server and call ah moi
if they do good things here then no complaint
like if we hire them and they transfer their knowledge here
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market starts to slow?
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very quiet nowadays and BLR increased
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very quiet nowadays and BLR increased
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that means when market is slow, developers will find it harder to sell
they cannot slow down development right since with SPA, so they will offer more discounts??
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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Jul 23 2014, 05:17 PM)
that means when market is slow, developers will find it harder to sell
they cannot slow down development right since with SPA, so they will offer more discounts??
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Developer can give discount, but it can never be lower than the very initial buyers' price.

If developer goes lower than original selling price, it will have a big repercussion. No no no, no developer will do that unless they are having financial trouble.

Judging from IOI punya style, they just hold lar. As simple as that.

After holding long enough, they will even raise the price again !

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What's the take up rate so far?
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 23 2014, 05:45 PM)
Developer can give discount, but it can never be lower than the very initial buyers' price.

If developer goes lower than original selling price, it will have a big repercussion. No no no, no developer will do that unless they are having financial trouble.

Judging from IOI punya style, they just hold lar. As simple as that.

After holding long enough, they will even raise the price again !
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let's monitor the market to see how it performs
more discounts still better
saw adverts new bandar puteri township development in bangi coming soon
would it be cheap?
is this close to southville by mah sing punya bangi?
all move south?
will it be like bandar puteri one day so "wong"? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Jul 24 2014, 01:53 PM)
let's monitor the market to see how it performs
more discounts still better
saw adverts new bandar puteri township development in bangi coming soon
would it be cheap?
is this close to southville by mah sing punya bangi?
all move south?
will it be like bandar puteri one day so "wong"? hmm.gif
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Just ask yourself, would you buy a property which drops price ?

It's like share market. Nobody wants to buy a share/stock which drops price.

So don't even hope for it, it will not drop.

The way to promote a property is to increase it's price and not giving more discounts.

Totally not familiar with bangi. I think the upcoming bandar puteri sepang (kota warisan) is worth checking.


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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 24 2014, 02:04 PM)
Just ask yourself, would you buy a property which drops price ?

It's like share market. Nobody wants to buy a share/stock which drops price.

So don't even hope for it, it will not drop.

The way to promote a property is to increase it's price and not giving more discounts.

Totally not familiar with bangi. I think the upcoming bandar puteri sepang (kota warisan) is worth checking.
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wow, another bangi development?
kota warisan i think near airport but is it by IOI? or no name developer?

what i meant was if we know the property well, liked it, but not making decision now, and few months later there seems to be corrected price downwards, i think it is worth to consider. of course not drop like mad price. developer may not drop price but may offer like additional car park, extra furnishing package, etc. slight downward adjustment would be good then is like extra offer and grab it for stay or long term keep. i don't know IOI history. not sure whether they will do this. of course like you said, most will hold and sell higher upon VP. then we see how market of supply demand performs from now until 2015
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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Jul 24 2014, 02:10 PM)
wow, another bangi development?
kota warisan i think near airport but is it by IOI? or no name developer?

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Kota warisan is south but pretty far from Bangi.

Many developers will have projects there, it's a question of when.

IOI, Glomac, Sime, I&P etc.

Currently KIP has a fully sold project there but still under construction.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 24 2014, 02:28 PM)
Kota warisan is south but pretty far from Bangi.

Many developers will have projects there, it's a question of when.

IOI, Glomac, Sime, I&P etc.

Currently KIP has a fully sold project there but still under construction.
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if your news is true, then i will definitely look into this area because it is in sepang better than bangi!!
and i think xiamen uni is under construction there so is kota warisan gonna be like cyberjaya where all developers starting to enter??

anybody know the history of kota warisan?
is it a kampong area or oil palm clearing for new township?

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skyz banner is out now along the road
those big stone/rock at the edge is supposed to prevent landslide with holes to channel water out right?
noise from lrt may be heard since so near the lrt track
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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Jul 1 2014, 06:38 PM)
cheapest is close to 800k for condo
can buy meh?
this kind of pricing probably deserves a place like mont kiara etc.
here is only puchong
location not much different from all other condos along ldp from ioi mall until bandar puteri
buy medium cost apartment and dump in 200K renovation probably still less than 800K but looks luxury
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I once stay in low cost apartment. You can have the world class award winning interior renovation but the moment you step out to the lift or at corridor, you may see a puddle of urine or baby poop inside the lift. That's the low cost flat. Prestige and class is what these guys pay for own stay. notworthy.gif Worth it or not it depends on individual. It depends how you value your life. Some people have money but live poorly. If they can afford it's their choice to enjoy their life. We should feel happy for them and not jealous because majority cannot afford it. nod.gif

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construction progress so far. i saw them working on the slope (sand? cement?)


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construction progress so far. i saw them working on the slope (sand? cement?)
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How's the sales progress so far? Does the developer offer any package??
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QUOTE(re_freako @ Jul 27 2014, 04:42 PM)
I once stay in low cost apartment. You can have the world class award winning interior renovation but the moment you step out to the lift or at corridor, you may see a puddle of urine or baby poop inside the lift. That's the low cost flat. Prestige and class is what these guys pay for own stay. notworthy.gif Worth it or not it depends on individual. It depends how you value your life. Some people have money but live poorly. If they can afford it's their choice to enjoy their life. We should feel happy for them and not jealous because majority cannot afford it. nod.gif
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haha...
true..
it depends on luck really
look at setiawalk. it supposed to be a class higher but they are also pariah people who would just throw rubbish on the floor or refuse to drop it inside the bin.
maybe there are lots of people from puchong who have earned their status and therefore buy skyz...
or people from outside moving to puchong.
i have known some who buy normal landed homes but spent lots on ID. impressive.
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QUOTE(Maneki-neko @ Jul 27 2014, 10:02 PM)
How's the sales progress so far? Does the developer offer any package??
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just found this website that lists the sales progress of each property (although not sure how accurate these figures are):
http://idaman2.kpkt.gov.my:8888/idv5/98_eH...YZ%20RESIDENCES

166 sold out of first 2 blocks (about 400 units), thus current sales % is about 40%.... quite slow unsure.gif

not sure about now but 2 months back they gave 5% rebate, free 1 year maintenance fee and up to 36 months zero interest instalment for downpayment.
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QUOTE(incognito @ Aug 11 2014, 06:55 PM)
just found this website that lists the sales progress of each property (although not sure how accurate these figures are):
http://idaman2.kpkt.gov.my:8888/idv5/98_eH...YZ%20RESIDENCES

166 sold out of first 2 blocks (about 400 units), thus current sales % is about 40%.... quite slow unsure.gif

not sure about now but 2 months back they gave 5% rebate, free 1 year maintenance fee and up to 36 months zero interest instalment for downpayment.
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so if sales does not pick up, the developer will continue to sell until after VP, still at current price? then buyers have the advantage of viewing the place after VP and buy by looking at the actual condition.
basically developer has failed to recognise the income of the masses does not grow in line with the property pricing
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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Aug 14 2014, 01:46 PM)
so if sales does not pick up, the developer will continue to sell until after VP, still at current price? then buyers have the advantage of viewing the place after VP and buy by looking at the actual condition.
basically developer has failed to recognise the income of the masses does not grow in line with the property pricing
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The developer will hold, but I don't think the price will be frozen. They might still increase the price from time to time. Don't even think the price will be frozen ! This kind of game all developers are doing, all the time.


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newspaper claimed 60% sold wa...sure or not
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I passed by this project almost lately look like one block painted another block is almost same height as the painted block
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how? there is no block yet
how you see?
now is just few storey high like for car park
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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Aug 20 2014, 05:30 PM)
how? there is no block yet
how you see?
now is just few storey high like for car park
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i think i confuse skypod with skyz, what i saw i think its skypod
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yes skypod is advanced stage of construction
skyz just starting oni
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newspaper claimed 60% sold wa...sure or not
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Wahh. Quietly 60% sold is great achievement leh.

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newspaper claimed 60% sold wa...sure or not
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which newspaper is this?

EDIT: found it: http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/artic...ce-in-the-skyz/

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How's the sales progress? Getting slower?

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suddenly i received one sms saying 5% cash back if buy this weekend
so it means discount is coming to push sales??
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suddenly i received one sms saying 5% cash back if buy this weekend
so it means discount is coming to push sales??
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me too....wonder they provide buffet this time ? if yes, may be can go there awhile before lunch time whistling.gif
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me too....wonder they provide buffet this time ? if yes, may be can go there awhile before lunch time  whistling.gif
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F/H or L/H?

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herewith the event schedule for this weekend...
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Ada makan lagi ! Make sure you don't go later than 2 pm. Nothing left after that based on previous experience. wink.gif
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Ada makan lagi ! Make sure you don't go later than 2 pm. Nothing left after that based on previous experience. wink.gif
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2pm so late... you think hi tea buffet???
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haha...looks like intention is makan oni
so what is best time to makan?
11am? start all fresh and no lalat yet?
i just wonder what is the 5% means
if it is additional 5% discount then mah jialat to those earlier buyers??
let's wait for more discounts year end
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QUOTE(katijar @ Sep 5 2014, 11:24 AM)
2pm so late... you think hi tea buffet???
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Maybe 1 pm also habis liao ! Don't blame me if you reach there and no more food. whistling.gif
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advert stated light refreshment wor
cut sandwich, fried popiah maybe and some mix water juice...
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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Sep 5 2014, 11:34 AM)
haha...looks like intention is makan oni
so what is best time to makan?
11am? start all fresh and no lalat yet?
i just wonder what is the 5% means
if it is additional 5% discount then mah jialat to those earlier buyers??
let's wait for more discounts year end
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If you have intention to buy, my recommendation is to buy it as early as possible.

Whatever discount, rebate, cash back it's all paying with plus/minus.

It can't go below the previous net selling price.
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received many sms on this
5% cash back does it mean additional 5%?
earlier buyer cannot complain right, cos selected a much better unit
was told increase RM30,000, since launch

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Sep 5 2014, 11:42 AM)
If you have intention to buy, my recommendation is to buy it as early as possible.

Whatever discount, rebate, cash back it's all paying with plus/minus.

It can't go below the previous net selling price.
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yeah..i suspect developer playing with the prices
i have seen some developers keep amending prices and say give more rebates...but in the end it may or may not benefit buyers...so need to do more investigation; but sometimes it is just some extra freebies to make buyers feel song..
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QUOTE(vajos @ Sep 5 2014, 11:42 AM)
received many sms on this
5% cash back does it mean additional 5%?
earlier buyer cannot complain right, cos selected a much better unit
was told increase RM30,000, since launch
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so maybe this no reason 30K increased is now reduced by this 5% discount when they realise simply increase price makes no sense when demand is slowing...
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Nobody here go makan today? Show house at the cube so empty at 2pm just now...
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Nobody here go makan today? Show house at the cube so empty at 2pm just now...
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friday all busy with matta fair leh.....

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QUOTE(chicargo @ Sep 5 2014, 03:20 PM)
Nobody here go makan today? Show house at the cube so empty at 2pm just now...
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QUOTE(rainman19 @ Sep 5 2014, 04:52 PM)
friday all busy with matta fair leh.....
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The SMS & email all mentioned 6&7 mah, who is so free everyday go and monitor got makan or no makan ?

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Nobody here go makan today? Show house at the cube so empty at 2pm just now...
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wa...you so early go makan ady ah?
tomorrow start la
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friday all busy with matta fair leh.....
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never mind one
after MATTA fair, hungry go to makan ioi lor... biggrin.gif
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I choose MATTA Fair than SKYz.

Anyone go to SKYz, how is the LIGHT refreshment and price now?

if good offer (food) maybe can go there tomorrow morning.
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QUOTE(austinchua @ Sep 6 2014, 02:12 PM)
I choose MATTA Fair than SKYz.

Anyone go to SKYz, how is the LIGHT refreshment and price now?

if good offer (food) maybe can go there tomorrow morning.
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Haha the food was better than last time. The fried chicken was finished at about 12.30 pm. I did I not stay long since I could not get the chicken for the second round.

Sales wise it's doing better than I thought. Not selling like hot cakes but better than the last few launches.

Looks like its a successful project for IOI, from IOI point of view, the refreshment is all worth it !

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Ok, good to know. Was thinking to go look see tomorrow.
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dropped by just now to kepoh. here's the sales progress for block E so far (didnt manage to take for block C sweat.gif ).

surprisingly, sales for parc ville was just so so - plenty of units still available.


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QUOTE(puchongite @ Sep 6 2014, 02:29 PM)
Haha the food was better than last time. The fried chicken was finished at about 12.30 pm. I did I not stay long since I could not get the chicken for the second round.

Sales wise it's doing better than I thought. Not selling like hot cakes but better than the last few launches.

Looks like its a successful project for IOI, from IOI point of view, the refreshment is all worth it !
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thanks for info bro.

Tomorrow will go to LOOK LOOK EAT EAT icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(incognito @ Sep 6 2014, 03:00 PM)
dropped by just now to kepoh. here's the sales progress for block E so far (didnt manage to take for block C sweat.gif ).

surprisingly, sales for parc ville was just so so - plenty of units still available.
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Block C is doing slightly better. Slightly but it's a lot of money involved already.

People buy due to location not due to absolute price point. So parc ville suffers.
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QUOTE(incognito @ Sep 6 2014, 03:00 PM)
dropped by just now to kepoh. here's the sales progress for block E so far (didnt manage to take for block C sweat.gif ).

surprisingly, sales for parc ville was just so so - plenty of units still available.
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Surprise that majority units are well diversified by the purchasers in terms of size and slightly more opted for 1550 sq ft ( esp no 8 ) instead of 1162 sq ft.

The low floor unit and high floor unit separated by amazing RM 70k and exept 1162 sq ft, most buyers dont bother to get lower floor.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Sep 6 2014, 02:29 PM)
Haha the food was better than last time. The fried chicken was finished at about 12.30 pm. I did I not stay long since I could not get the chicken for the second round.

Sales wise it's doing better than I thought. Not selling like hot cakes but better than the last few launches.

Looks like its a successful project for IOI, from IOI point of view, the refreshment is all worth it !
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Perhaps pricing from next door neighbour's launching make buyers felt this project is not expensive anymore. ....
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how is the sales of the project?? someone say this is the last land for IOI in Puchong??
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how is the sales of the project?? someone say this is the last land for IOI in Puchong??
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Still got alot land.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Sep 6 2014, 02:29 PM)
Haha the food was better than last time. The fried chicken was finished at about 12.30 pm. I did I not stay long since I could not get the chicken for the second round.

Sales wise it's doing better than I thought. Not selling like hot cakes but better than the last few launches.

Looks like its a successful project for IOI, from IOI point of view, the refreshment is all worth it !
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aiseh...missed the fried chicken
puchongite kor really can makan here and there all puchong launches laugh.gif
now i wait for next makan... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Sep 6 2014, 04:48 PM)
Surprise that majority units are well diversified by the purchasers in terms of size and slightly more opted for 1550 sq ft ( esp no 8 ) instead of 1162 sq ft.

The low floor unit and high floor unit separated by amazing RM 70k and exept 1162 sq ft, most buyers dont bother to get lower floor.
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this is a sign
normally BBB by investors go for low floors cheaper priced unit
family buying for stay go for bigger units to accommodate bigger family size and maid
so expect more local to stay there...
sibeh high up there expect view to be brilliant overseeing the whole klang valley perhaps
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QUOTE(incognito @ Sep 6 2014, 03:00 PM)
dropped by just now to kepoh. here's the sales progress for block E so far (didnt manage to take for block C sweat.gif ).

surprisingly, sales for parc ville was just so so - plenty of units still available.
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parc ville have to endure jam to the small road jalan pipit and long wait at traffic lights
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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Sep 8 2014, 12:21 PM)
aiseh...missed the fried chicken
puchongite kor really can makan here and there all puchong launches  laugh.gif
now i wait for next makan... laugh.gif
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The project is not fully sold yet, so there will be makan makan coming up.

Some more the IRDK has a long way to go.

Book all your weekends for makan makan ! Food is getting bloody expensive these day, eat at property sales is one way to cut expenses !
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Sep 8 2014, 12:27 PM)
The project is not fully sold yet, so there will be makan makan coming up.

Some more the IRDK has a long way to go.

Book all your weekends for makan makan ! Food is getting bloody expensive these day, eat at property sales is one way to cut expenses !
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hahaha laugh.gif
ya, economy slows
makan free is still better than chap fan...
i will try to tag along puchongite makan...
last time i went there late didn't makan oso
even drinks oso habis..shows how economy is slow
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QUOTE(Asgaard @ Sep 7 2014, 11:46 PM)
Still got alot land.
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the Puchong land left no much....all bought by Mah Shing... cool2.gif cool2.gif
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Sep 8 2014, 02:10 PM)
the Puchong land left no much....all bought by Mah Shing... cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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where mah sing bought?
only the recent one is behind IOI mall ma
so IOI lost to mah sing lor since land close to their area
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QUOTE(ibbrio @ Sep 8 2014, 03:47 PM)
where mah sing bought?
only the recent one is behind IOI mall ma
so IOI lost to mah sing lor since land close to their area
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Puchong = IOI ?? flex.gif flex.gif
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Puchong = IOI ?? flex.gif  flex.gif
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peri peri, what are you trying to say? rclxub.gif
i think IOI owned the most right?
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the Puchong land left no much....all bought by Mah Shing... cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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Bro, u know how big is Puchong?

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hahaha  laugh.gif
ya, economy slows
makan free is still better than chap fan...
i will try to tag along puchongite makan...
last time i went there late didn't makan oso
even drinks oso habis..shows how economy is slow
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We shall gather a makan makan group to eat all KL project launching to save some money
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We shall gather a makan makan group to eat all KL project launching to save some money
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