anyway, after a while most of us will get use to it. but hope they really will do something about the back, cause i still cannot get use to it.

Front wise, ok, no issue, not the ugliest design by proton yet. but this back is not that bad, but it is like a half done job by 2 department who didnt know what each front and back philosophy.

at least it is better looking that Fiat multipla.



This post has been edited by sonyman: Feb 26 2012, 12:04 AM

i saw what you did thar

Hmm the more i look at the p3-21a, i think not bad leh. Seems ok to me compare to the first impression that i had.

can see the p321 rear proportions not really pleasing.. abit like old saab rear profile..

Rear ugly is ok. So you will irritate ppl to the point of vomitting in the car when you smokes them.

@ar188, oh darn, caught red handed

The lamp are way too small huh?

you remind me of Kevin23 who said he will vomit when looking at forte. haha.. maybe looking at this P3-21A he will vomit and get smoked by this car and leave his city behind.

what a great idea...

i dunno, just not pleasing proportion, how the rear ends up..

yea, half done until forgot to put the car name on the butt.


the rear design not that weird if compare to this Naza Sutera lolx
IMO this naza car's rear design very u..y

This post has been edited by kevintth: Feb 26 2012, 12:37 AM


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It's hard to come out with a perfect design even for continentals at times. If you wan balanced looks like 5 series or mazda six then pay the price. I believe this model is not that bad but interior wise is another matter. Fugly :/

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Added on February 26, 2012, 3:12 am Uhmm... If u actually look at how they rebadge the asx then u can't really blame ppl for bashing proton for comin out with that design for inspira lol

This post has been edited by Kalist0: Feb 26 2012, 03:12 AM

Have you look into the interior? Apart from the leakage image, have you seen it better?

I gotta admit,this Proton looks the best proton so far. And and I am sure this proton will drive better than a lousy Forte. If I was in the market looking for a car at this price range,I would take the Proton over Forte a million times.

the rear a bit disappointed, it looks too geometric, look like inspira rear as well. The tail light also similar like flx. If there can make more round, then it would be nice. The front looks ok, looks like the chevelot cruz, if add some kit sure garang.
Again the tail light just too small and too short.
Engine looks like one of the best proton produced interm of matching with those imported car. It looks like a mix of local and continental taste. Important is still the handling and engine efficiency. Handling wise nothing much to complain since many ppl had gave good rate for car like persona and flx. As for engine, it is an upgrade from so called old engine campro, with improvement of cvt. I would said now it is only comparable with viow and city entry. Like persona or blm time, the engine already loose and also fc. With new engine and gear, it looks like proton is back in competing.
Price still bit high for premium, 75K is lik much higher than waya last time. Make it 70k would be good. For entry 60k will do the trick.

i dont know why u hate forte so much, but if you agree with this proton means it should be nice , hope this p3-21a will be something we all can be proud of, although i would prefer direct injection in the cfe engine.

With our fuel quality, direct injection will not come so soon.

Else Gasoline direct injection of Hyundai would be a really good buy over here with its specs.

well..last time persona and blm..the engine no problem
they're even using it on this car...lower variant of course but the improved one which is IAFM+
the problem be4 is the GB itself that causes underpower and high FC
switching to CVT is the answer

yup,u r correct about chosing pfi rather than gdi. One pf prtn market is indo which still using ron 88 as their main fuel.

Erm,correct me if i'm wrong, i heard that elantra md that arrived here still using pfi, not gdi due to fuel concern. Also read somewhere, gdi still can use lower octane,but in future, have a bit prob, if i not mistaken 50k-80k carbon build up in engine is too high due to using low octane, can cause u to opt for top overhaul which can burn some money. Reliability also a concern. If u look at cfe compression ratio,its really low for modern engine, but due to certain market that used low octane n low grade fuel including malaysia(high octane but low grade,just euro 2), this is essential to ensure the engine when retard its timing to match the fuel,knocking issue is not a problem. And the best part is, u no need high octane fuel to extract all the power.

About the rear,if changing the emblem to toyota@honda, do u think malaysian will think differently?

Peace yo.

Does the 205Nm truly on wheel? Or just a number on engine dyno? Hehehe..

the rear is round curving if u have the opportunity to look at it spot on from back live. Erm,just wait for the launch. I think italdesign manage to do some awesome job creating diff perspective from diff angle. Clue, the side lamp containing reversen signal n brake lamp is short when u look directly from back,thats why they put some lamp on the boot.

Ah,better wait for the launch, it just around the corner, than can critisize completely including quality, so we can se this car is it a typical prtn@ a new era prtn car. Remember to test drive it too. Hopefully they also provide iafm+ test drive unit along with cfe, but iafm+ with manual one for test drive.

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Added on February 26, 2012, 2:12 pmoff course on engine. Its normal practice for all manufacturers. Do u know why? Coz of diff types of transmission used for one engine. If use on wheel, mt iafm+ n cvt iafm+ will have diff pwr n torque on wheel due to transmission pwrloss.

Let say persona iafm. With mitsu 5mt,pwrloss is around 12%. 4 at is around 20%. So, if want to metioned on wheel pwr, need to put to spec for pwr for diff transmission even using the same engine.

Thats why manufacturer prefer to use pwr on engine than on wheel. The graph also will be diff for mt n at n cvt n dsg. Hope u got the idea, we are not talking about ahbeng type dyno. If not, u need to print diff brochure for diff customer if using ahbeng dyno coz trust me, u wont get the same output for the same engine even for the same gbox used. It must have +-.

This post has been edited by mat79: Feb 26 2012, 02:12 PM

Conti can give u what written on specs paper but on wheel..at least almost..