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blo0dLuSt
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Feb 25 2012, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(jw_92 @ Feb 25 2012, 12:00 PM) exora bold (facelift) looks > exora original tuah=facelift version?? hope the facelift will get the face that the photoshopped one.. the real one looks sad or "puppy eyes" just like the 1st gen audi TT from the side of the headlamp.. This post has been edited by blo0dLuSt: Feb 25 2012, 12:05 PM
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Vannus
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Feb 25 2012, 12:07 PM
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What do you guys think? is it proton designed this production look on purpose? or the design approver person in charge is having big problem on handling his job and need to be sack immediately? I seriously don't understand how they can approve such a lousy curve of the rare and front lamps that is not sporty and ugly. Hope someone can enlighten me, the car body should be fine as it followed tuah orginal structure and lines. The lamp design got impact to the car security?
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TripleJ104
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Feb 25 2012, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(eistern @ Feb 25 2012, 10:09 AM)  failed BI Added on February 25, 2012, 12:09 pm» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(mutt @ Feb 25 2012, 11:34 AM)  My wife approve after look at this pic but.. but.. we're actually planning to get Exora Bold for business purpose (angkut barang). Tuah not gonna be practical for us and we're already own a sedan and small hatch.. haih.. let time tell (currently I'm tempted to the max  ) Trade with the cps... This post has been edited by TripleJ104: Feb 25 2012, 12:09 PM
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MR_alien
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Feb 25 2012, 12:10 PM
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seeing u guys photochopped i think proton is leaving those nice ones to FL? cuz proton is gonna facelift it twice within the 5 years lifespan of p3-21a thats why the original design is like that
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blo0dLuSt
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Feb 25 2012, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(Vannus @ Feb 25 2012, 12:07 PM) What do you guys think? is it proton designed this production look on purpose? or the design approver person in charge is having big problem on handling his job and need to be sack immediately? I seriously don't understand how they can approve such a lousy curve of the rare and front lamps that is not sporty and ugly. Hope someone can enlighten me, the car body should be fine as it followed tuah orginal structure and lines. The lamp design got impact to the car security? no.. they actually playing safe with the design. they dun wan the design to be like the "love it or hate it" as an example the e60 bmw by chris bangle. sum ppl like the design and sum ppl juz dislike it. proton playing safe by designing a look that all ppl will say " not bad.. but so-so" . juz like in the middle. dun wan their car to be hated. and dun wan to take the risk =)
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Vannus
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Feb 25 2012, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(blo0dLuSt @ Feb 25 2012, 12:12 PM) no.. they actually playing safe with the design. they dun wan the design to be like the "love it or hate it" as an example the e60 bmw by chris bangle. sum ppl like the design and sum ppl juz dislike it. proton playing safe by designing a look that all ppl will say " not bad.. but so-so" . juz like in the middle. dun wan their car to be hated. and dun wan to take the risk =) I don't think people will hate nice design, example like lancer GT original design bumper, after proton took over and redesign the bumper, I think it become worst. not become more sporty. Inspira RIM is another one, fugly like mad, not sure whatever thing that proton does on thier design sure make them worst. For majority, people will not say nice design is ugly, I never heard anyone saying forte is ugly, K5 is ugly, sonata is ugly, but i heard so many of them complain inspira bumper n rims s u k s compare to original. sigh to proton, gonna be another failure. This post has been edited by Vannus: Feb 25 2012, 12:19 PM
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blo0dLuSt
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Feb 25 2012, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(Vannus @ Feb 25 2012, 12:16 PM) I don't think people will hate nice design, example like lancer GT original design bumper, after proton took over and redesign the bumper, I think it become worst. not more sporty. Inspira RIM is another one, fugly like mad, not sure whatever thing that proton does on thier design sure make them worst. For majority, people will not say nice design is ugly, I never heard anyone saying forte is ugle, K5 is ugle, sonata is ugly, but i heard so many of them complain inspira bumper n rims s u k s compare to original. sigh to proton, gonna be another failure. about the inspira bumper, they need to differenciate between the ori lancer GT and inspira. thats why proton cannot take original shark nose style and they put audi nose there. its on their agreement with mitsu to take the lancer body to become inspira. mitsu even told proton not to mess with the engine ECU in the agreement. about the rim, the design is bad but.. they hav to downgrade to smaller rims to improve comfort and milage. p/s: lari tajuk plak . LOL This post has been edited by blo0dLuSt: Feb 25 2012, 12:24 PM
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ruffstuff
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Feb 25 2012, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(Vannus @ Feb 25 2012, 12:16 PM) I don't think people will hate nice design, example like lancer GT original design bumper, after proton took over and redesign the bumper, I think it become worst. not become more sporty. Inspira RIM is another one, fugly like mad, not sure whatever thing that proton does on thier design sure make them worst. For majority, people will not say nice design is ugly, I never heard anyone saying forte is ugly, K5 is ugly, sonata is ugly, but i heard so many of them complain inspira bumper n rims s u k s compare to original. sigh to proton, gonna be another failure. Design is subjective. Personal preferences. Some might like it and some might not. You can't satisfy all.
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mutt
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Feb 25 2012, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(blo0dLuSt @ Feb 25 2012, 12:03 PM) hope the facelift will get the face that the photoshopped one.. the real one looks sad or "puppy eyes" just like the 1st gen audi TT from the side of the headlamp.. puppy eyes that's the word I was looking for QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Feb 25 2012, 12:08 PM)  failed BI Added on February 25, 2012, 12:09 pm» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Trade with the cps...  I love my Waja CPS and always will be Don't like to trade on finance car. Most probably will just ask my relative to sambung bayar.
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-cmi-
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Feb 25 2012, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(Vannus @ Feb 25 2012, 12:16 PM) I don't think people will hate nice design, example like lancer GT original design bumper, after proton took over and redesign the bumper, I think it become worst. not become more sporty. Inspira RIM is another one, fugly like mad, not sure whatever thing that proton does on thier design sure make them worst. For majority, people will not say nice design is ugly, I never heard anyone saying forte is ugly, K5 is ugly, sonata is ugly, but i heard so many of them complain inspira bumper n rims s u k s compare to original. sigh to proton, gonna be another failure. It hard to satisfy everyone in term of design. Even top car manufacturer like Honda and Toyota also produce some lame design car like Vios & City. But yea, Proton need better designer like what KIA does so they can consistently produce a car that able to satisfy more people.
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mutt
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Feb 25 2012, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Feb 25 2012, 01:02 PM) It hard to satisfy everyone in term of design. Even top car manufacturer like Honda and Toyota also produce some lame design car like Vios & City. But yea, Proton need better designer like what KIA does so they can consistently produce a car that able to satisfy more people. and the RIMS too..
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Jazz6218
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Feb 25 2012, 01:08 PM
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put the cfe engine n cvt into persona elegance and sell at 65k is better
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blo0dLuSt
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Feb 25 2012, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 25 2012, 12:58 PM) Design is subjective. Personal preferences. Some might like it and some might not. You can't satisfy all. agreed to this. dats y proton playing on the safe side. QUOTE(-cmi- @ Feb 25 2012, 01:02 PM) It hard to satisfy everyone in term of design. Even top car manufacturer like Honda and Toyota also produce some lame design car like Vios & City. But yea, Proton need better designer like what KIA does so they can consistently produce a car that able to satisfy more people. hoho. kia taken designer frm audi. so we can take lotus' designer? can ke? haha QUOTE(mutt @ Feb 25 2012, 01:05 PM) +1 This post has been edited by blo0dLuSt: Feb 25 2012, 01:09 PM
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Vannus
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Feb 25 2012, 01:28 PM
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The designer approver in proton sure those old cows or pigs that never keep up to date their taste. minus 1 point to proton and cause the whole company to slump.
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eistern
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Feb 25 2012, 01:49 PM
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fast2 release la proton
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tunasandwich
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Feb 25 2012, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(blo0dLuSt @ Feb 25 2012, 12:22 PM) about the inspira bumper, they need to differenciate between the ori lancer GT and inspira. thats why proton cannot take original shark nose style and they put audi nose there. its on their agreement with mitsu to take the lancer body to become inspira. mitsu even told proton not to mess with the engine ECU in the agreement. about the rim, the design is bad but.. they hav to downgrade to smaller rims to improve comfort and milage. p/s: lari tajuk plak . LOL how did u know bout the agreement between proton n mitsubishi?
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blo0dLuSt
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Feb 25 2012, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Feb 25 2012, 02:20 PM) how did u know bout the agreement between proton n mitsubishi? google is ur fren. u'll never know what u'll find there This post has been edited by blo0dLuSt: Feb 25 2012, 02:54 PM
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BuFung
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Feb 25 2012, 02:54 PM
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this thread getting engineer, puchaser,designer who kbow to build the car back look lilr tuah gonna cost a boom like 300k.... now even have top management knowing the agreement btwn p n mitsu..... lyn really knowing evrything...
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Vannus
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Feb 25 2012, 03:00 PM
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Part of the failure already showing up. Bravo Proton. On the comments from public points, negative comments are more than positive. Good luck proton http://paultan.org/2012/02/25/proton-p3-21...so-far/#respondThis post has been edited by Vannus: Feb 25 2012, 04:34 PM
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AlexLee277
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Feb 25 2012, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(Sai91 @ Feb 25 2012, 05:30 AM) wah where u found mine picture lol..  Added on February 25, 2012, 5:30 amthankyou XD kopitiam lo~
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