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post Feb 15 2012, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Feb 15 2012, 12:05 PM)
Smart wor... who will so dumb buy Proton?! Only people with no money will ever buy a proton man.

Especially those over glorified Inspira with their Campro engine.. sigh... E36 sure blow them all out of the water lah! Can get more chicks also!
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proof pls inspira using campro
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post Feb 15 2012, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 01:30 PM)
looooool!
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post Feb 15 2012, 04:33 PM

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I personally think that P3-21A is not a derivative of the 'Tuah' conceptual car. P3-21A is more like Pesona replacement.

The real 'tuah' most probably will use higher capacity engine which still in development (Family 'y') which comes in 1.2, 1.5 and 1.8l. All this might come with force induction (CFE) as well.

But seriously, P3-21A is gonna be a huge success for Proton (finger cross).
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post Feb 15 2012, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(779364 @ Feb 15 2012, 11:06 PM)
Not when your baseline engine sucks. I understand economy of scale but they could at least include CPS on the lower end model right.

Even the basic Volkswagen polo which retails for less than 15,000 euro uses a smaller cc 1.2 litre TSI. Good for 105 hp.
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1.6 IAFM is really a turn off. Like buying a persona facelift + added accessories.
1.6 CFE is real deal.
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Feb 15 2012, 11:48 PM)
IAFM is sufficient enough for daily driven.
Actually now I feel there's nothing to shout about on inspirar. I believe the campro turbo can be on par if not faster than inspirar. My only gripe is how they're going to vent the heat.
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With the spec and performance (yet to see), this is way better deal than Inspira. Only that in inspira, you have the impression of mitsu engine's quality, compare to Proton's in house engine.
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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Feb 16 2012, 12:41 AM)
very tempting specs. but engine a bit let down based only on perception. if mitsu engine, i think sure is a winner. but kill own inspira's sales. LOL!
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Mitsu engine is no longer a feel good factor for proton.

QUOTE(-cmi- @ Feb 16 2012, 12:42 AM)
lmao. That's lame if you expect MIVEC engine on Proton car all the time.
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Yeah, its getting boring proton and mitsu engine.
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QUOTE(jw_92 @ Feb 17 2012, 04:41 PM)
Back to the p3-21A.. it is a shame that they didn't go with the concept design for mass production.
when it came out i thought proton finally did something amazing ala korean cars nowadays. but they had to go and tone it down and make it all weird.. doh.gif
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And who again said Tuah is the concept of P3-21A? Proton never said that, except media.

If you look at the Tuah concept spec, it uses 1.8L engine. This can indicate that Tuah concept car might be using the 'family y' force induction engine, which have 1.8l in their list.

That is why i suggested that P3-21A is not a Tuah derivative. Tuah might be the successor of P3-21A.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 18 2012, 06:21 PM)
Just spotted two p3-21a in ayer keroh r&r petronas today, pictures later upload..
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Quick upload picture pls.
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post Feb 20 2012, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(llutephie @ Feb 20 2012, 10:46 PM)
PROTON PRIMA or PROTON SEPHIA happy.gif
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that is the name they had in mind?
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post Feb 20 2012, 11:17 PM

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If its due in March, its probably have its name already. But Prima is like meh..
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QUOTE(neotoxin @ Feb 20 2012, 11:17 PM)
this could be the real source of the picture
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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wait.. i know this guy. 9 mutual friend lol
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post Feb 23 2012, 04:37 PM

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As I said before, P3-21A is not a derivative from Tuah.

Tuah concept might be came after P3-21A since on paper Tuah is 1.8liter engine.
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Proton just can't sell expensive car. They can't even sell a proper C segment at C segment price. People will not buy it.

Yet, people is asking P3-21A, a C segment car with feature in D segment car, to be sell like VIVA price.
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White P3-21A caught at night.


Added on February 23, 2012, 8:01 pm1st version
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Kinda similar according to this leak slide


But here we have another version

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Is this just a decoy lense?


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post Feb 23 2012, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Vannus @ Feb 23 2012, 08:15 PM)
Wah lau, lousy design, totally like 5 years back car, but if this to replace saga at 40k range, then I will accept it, but anything more expensive than that, it's just stupid.
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Buy saga then.
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post Feb 24 2012, 11:16 PM

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This might be the EXEC spec. The premium might look different abit with bodykit perhaps.
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FL is coming lol
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QUOTE(Vannus @ Feb 25 2012, 12:16 PM)
I don't think people will hate nice design, example like lancer GT original design bumper, after proton took over and redesign the bumper, I think it become worst. not become more sporty. Inspira RIM is another one, fugly like mad, not sure whatever thing that proton does on thier design sure make them worst. For majority, people will not say nice design is ugly, I never heard anyone saying forte is ugly, K5 is ugly, sonata is ugly, but i heard so many of them complain inspira bumper n rims s u k s compare to original. sigh to proton, gonna be another failure.
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Design is subjective. Personal preferences. Some might like it and some might not. You can't satisfy all.
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post Feb 25 2012, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Vannus @ Feb 25 2012, 03:00 PM)
Part of the failure already showing up. Bravo Proton. On the comments from public points, negative comments are more than positive. Good luck proton

http://paultan.org/2012/02/25/proton-p3-21...so-far/#respond
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