not bad..but lets see it in reality..instantaneous fc display is a good feature!
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Full P3-21A Specs and Info!
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not bad..but lets see it in reality..instantaneous fc display is a good feature!
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Feb 15 2012, 12:09 AM
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Feb 15 2012, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(zhngmykahzhng @ Feb 15 2012, 12:19 AM) Fulamak!!! If this car selling at 60-65K range then lagi power, lagi best SE and Extreme 1.5 sure need manyak2 "lagi" for some serious competition. cannot sell too cheap lar..otherwise who want to buy the persona..since it is not stopped selling yet..this car is exactly priced like the waja..this is a good start for proton to go globally..now they can compete in terms of features..yeah!!abolish all the excessive car duty now!!!Really looking forward the car launching in March. |
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Feb 15 2012, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Feb 15 2012, 05:56 PM) people give tin kosong with four wheels and a steering wheel to drive, complain agree with u..those who said that say back to them just drive the old car with carburetor engine..no need fancy2 sensors,ecu,obdII socket etc2..people give loaded tin with a lot of gizmos and toys with four wheels and a steering wheel to drive, complain complain complain complain complain complain. This post has been edited by megat89: Feb 15 2012, 08:40 PM |
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Feb 15 2012, 09:30 PM) i think you are wrong in this case, people did shout at honda, but what makes people to continue respect honda is the attitude in handling exception situation. They call back all those affected unit and sincere apologize, yup..thats what holding the proton from snatching japanese cars sells..it is very hard to change the people mindset once people already suffer..On the other hand, I still recall proton news where the director stood out and say the defects happened in Proton Savvy is acceptable as proton is producing too much unit per days which causing the QC quality going down. Again, it is attitude. http://www.aduanrakyat.com.my/kerosakan-enjin-cvt-saga-flx very new car also can have such a major problem..at least they should handle it professionally..as it is obviously the manufacturer's defect..hope this new model wont suffer from the major problems.. This post has been edited by megat89: Feb 15 2012, 09:39 PM |
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why not put the 1.3 campro and put supercharger + turbo...sure the fc will be good..or if just put the turbo,then put inside persona sure can get better sales..
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Feb 25 2012, 11:32 AM
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there is a gap between the bonnet lip and the proton logo which ruins the car design..and the bonnet lip edge is straight while the logo stripe underneath is curvy..lol..seriously whose idea is that?..and the headlight is small..
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Feb 25 2012, 11:38 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « that is photochop version..this is the real one.. ![]() |
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Mar 3 2012, 10:58 PM
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if this car fails, proton could be ended up like saab..saab even with its good looking new saab 9-5 , high tech,high crash test rating, global brand, still can go bankcrupt..ohw, but proton doesnt compete in an open market BTW..
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « i think it is pretty normal for a car manufacturer's engineer/staff to be also be at the vendor's factory..their role is to inspect all the finished product before accepting it on the behalf of the car manufacturer..they check all the clearances, tolerances, quality etc2..if u ever been to drb hicom factory in shah alam, even the mercedes representatives also there for the mercedes cars/parts..and same also like proton..but since now DRB owns proton, i think the quality will drop..since DRB make parts for its own car company( proton)..unlike before, DRB made parts for its customer(proton)..since the final product should be checked thoroughly by the car company, the car company should be blamed too if the part fails..since it is either they didnt design it properly, or they didnt check it properly before taking it from the vendors.. This post has been edited by megat89: Mar 4 2012, 09:25 AM |
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wait, did i see the old cheapskate typical proton's signal and wiper switch lever?..but overall, the car looks great..
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CFE engine from the exora seems to got unwanted sounds..
so has proton solved those sound problem? |
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QUOTE(zif @ Mar 17 2012, 04:06 PM) From Headlightmag.com review wonder if the p321a at least can get the same 15km/l @ 110kmh..Vios (4AT) 0-100km/h: 12.10s, 80-120: 9.59s FC: 14.52 km/l (110km/h), Max Speed: 178km/h I think P3-21A should be compared with C-secment cars (Altis, Civic, Lancer EX, etc). Altis (1.6G 4AT) 0-100km/h: 11.74s, 80-120: 8.50s FC: 15.14 km/l (110km/h), Max Speed: 187km/h@4500rpm Altis (1.8G CVT) 0-100km/h: 10.28s, 80-120: 7.96s FC: 15.33 km/l (110km/h), Max Speed: 190km/h@4500rpm Altis (2.0V CVT) 0-100km/h: 9.56s, 80-120: 7.69s FC: 14.12 km/l (110km/h), Max Speed: 185km/h@4200rpm Lancer EX (1.8 CVT) 0-100km/h: 12.78s, 80-120: 9.28s FC: 12.92 km/l (110km/h), Max Speed: 195km/h@5700rpm Lancer EX (2.0 CVT) 0-100km/h: 10.61s, 80-120: 7.64s FC: 11.85 km/l (110km/h), Max Speed: 200km/h@6200rpm Civic FD (1.8 5AT) 0-100km/h: 11.72s, 80-120: 9.37s FC: 15.36 km/l (110km/h), Max Speed: 199km/h@5400rpm Civic FD (2.0 5AT) 0-100km/h: 10.38s, 80-120: 7.70s FC: 14.74 km/l (110km/h), Max Speed: 220km/h@6600rpm I really want to read P3-21A review from Headlightmag.com but unfortunately PNA (Proton Distributor in Thailand) don't let him review any proton car. |
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QUOTE(iSpace @ Mar 17 2012, 06:15 PM) After changed to cvt and the results just comparable to myvi.. I would say myvi FC is super duper high. Even a nissan sylphy 2.0 has better FC than myvi. since u compare myvi with sylphy,Believe it or not?? sylphy fc: QUOTE fuel with RON 97, A/C at 25 deg C, highway at 110km/h = 16 km/L & city jam + klang valley highway jam = 13.7 to 14 km/L http://www.motortrader.com.my/Cars/Forums/...onsumption.aspx lol..with ron 97, only can get 16km/l..while myvi 1.3 with ron 95, can easily get 17km/l.. |
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QUOTE(iSpace @ Mar 17 2012, 08:30 PM) Please try the myvi with ron97 pls. Dont bulshit here. My house got sylphy and myvi and sylphy fc is better than myvi. Myvi for pasar pagi buy sayur use okla.. Travel very far use myvi sure headache even the kelisa that i drive to work everyday has big different in mileage when using a ron97..full tank of ron 97 can easily beat the full tank of 95 with the same driving style..and since u said myvi use to go pasar only, means u only use it for a short/city drive..while the sylphy u use for a highway drive..of cos thats not a fair comparison..since ur house has a sylphy, that would be very seldom for u to drive a myvi for a long drive.. |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « if the bomba use the normal drill like what we have, the drill bit material is made brittle..so it is easily broken if been given a torsional/bending force..if he drill properly without swaying the drill gun, the most thing that can happen is the drill bit will only become blunt..but since even the cheapest drill bit that i know is made of High Speed Steel, which is even tougher than the carbon steel that a car usually made of.. |
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QUOTE(mr_boonez @ Mar 18 2012, 07:57 AM) this is true. for this model PROTON is using AHSS (advanced high strength steel) which is the Hot Stamping Metal. It has 3 times tensile strength than normal mild steel. Certain parts of the structure ie Center Pillar, A-Pillar, Sills are using this material (1500MPa). That's why they can achieve NCAP 5 stars. The same technology being used by BMWs, Mercs, and even AUDIs. European cars are using these tech for all their cars. i dont believe it..although the new proton is stronger, but no hole on the pillars..this is so joke..haha..because the drill bit material is so strong, which makes it is very brittle, so it is easily broken..if no hole after 10minutes, means the pillar is stronger than the bit, and also will be more brittle than the drill bit..more brittle means it will break anytime when u hit potholes..if u learn about metal, u know it will not happen..it could only happen if the bomba using the wrong low strength drill bit like the low carbon steel bit that normally used for wood..and even the aircraft structure and screws can be drilled..although some screw need to use the tungsten drill bit due to its stronger material..That's why BOMBA was called in to try their equipment and simulate how to cut the car open if a crash happen. Believe me, they tried to drill the steel and the drill bit wear off, and no hole on the pillars after 10 minutes. This post has been edited by megat89: Mar 18 2012, 08:55 AM |
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 18 2012, 02:32 PM) i dont think so..usually just need to put the gear lever at the +/-, and in this 'manual' mode, we can shift by using the gear lever or the paddle shifter..This post has been edited by megat89: Mar 18 2012, 02:36 PM |
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