so think twice guys before you buy 1.6 iafm preeve. better get saga 1.6 unless you go for cfe model.

now i decide to go with second hand vios or forte.

This post has been edited by sp3d2: Mar 15 2012, 01:25 PM

Also dont forget persona,
the cheapest 1.6 only 45K..

vios must buy new.

good resale value.

you buy second have vios = you pay for high resale value of first owner = not smart.

same engine with 1.6 flx se

1085kg saga vs 1325kg preeve.

think by yourself la what the output will become.

i dun understand when someone stated exec p3 dun have esc n etc, but i think the same as forte 1.6 which one of his choice. but still wondering why u choose executive lines for p3 which shud be around 65k+- when u can spend 79k for forte 1.6 ex, while need to spend 85k+- for sx 1.6, same safety equip, vios at 80k++ with less safety equip, n if talking about power output, still less than iafm+,but u can opt for 75k p3 which has bundle of safety specs,which cheaper than forte ex n sx 1.6 n even vios j.

Sometimes it makes me wondering how prtn need to do coz already give out i think the best value in money in malaysia, but still, people only want to spend on medium line,luckily doesnt have for the moment the baseline,if not,people will choose the most basic spec even if he afford the highest spec.

Ha..ha.. Malaysian, including me :-)

second hand forte plzzz. not new forte. for 60K+ youll get better spec than executive preeve.

This post has been edited by sp3d2: Mar 15 2012, 01:51 PM

You sir, is win

This post has been edited by ramboramsey: Mar 15 2012, 01:54 PM

ya ppl tend to be cheapskate. they didnt think about safety. and ppl tend to buy car for other ppl (high resale value, safe color choice like silver or black etc. etc.) . for me it depends on u urself. how long u wanna use d car? do u wanna use it for long term or for short term? to those who talking about quality we still didnt know about this since no one really own one now. so dun be judgemental to this new car. even other carmaker have this quality problem too but we didnt know about it. just my 2cents

This post has been edited by blo0dLuSt: Mar 15 2012, 01:55 PM

lol comparing a second hand car to a new one..
this is a failure in so many levels that i cant begin to describe

if u r talking about manual flx se(which not availabale at the moment) against p3 manual,yes, they loose it badly coz for saga, it just mere 10scnd to do that while p3 12scnd. But if u r talking about cvt p3 n cvt flx se, yup,still loose, but not in a big margin, p3 century sprint around 12.5 scnd, flx se 12 sncd.

Yup, many will question why? They have diff weight,diff pwr to weight ratio n etc. Yup, but u forget to add transmission factor. That is the advantage using cvt which has infinite ratio, ratio can immitate torque,incase of cvt,it limitless.

Diff case for mt, even thay change the ratio n final drive, they only have 5 gear ratio to play with.

The easiest way to immitate how it will move with additional weight is by immitating it in flx se, full load with above average 5 guys, n drive :-)

Yeah its true, at least proton should put CPS instead iafm+ to executive version..

WHAT?

Conclusion, buy the CFE variant.

oic, if 2nd hand 2.0 forte,yup better spec, but if 2nd hand 1.6 forte better spec than exec p3, i think u have been con by somebody. No esc n just 2 airbags for 2ndhand 1.6 forte n if not mistaken,is it 4 speeder one? N by the way, if comparing scnd hand with newly make, quite amusing. Just wondering if p3 in 2014, at 2nd hand value, dun u think it is better than 2 years old forte interm of pricing? I think it is better compare new one pit against newly make.

Wish u luck.

+1

Agreed, why don't they put CPS for Executive and CFE for Premium
Persona can continue running on CPS for Highline and IAFM+ for Low and Medium lines.
Sometimes I think Proton is quite dumb when it comes to product line up.

And based on the comments, I am quite sure there would be a Minor Change version coming out soon to fix the boot "misalignment" problem.

from my view
the same 1.6L IAFM+ engine in saga is consider overpower...not underpower
and yes...compare to preve 1.6L IAFM+ and saga 1.6L IAFM+
the saga will smoke the preve
but i dn't think it will be underpower..the saga itself is quite heavy becuz of HTS as well
so my opinion..the power is just enough but of course cannot compare to CFE

in terms of buying between saga 1.6 and preve 1.6 IAFM+
IF U HAVE THE BUDGET...IF
i would recommend u get the preve becuz of 2 things
1.preve uses multilink...saga uses torsion beam...with saga using stiffer absorber and larger rim...its quite bumpy said from owner
while preve uses multilink...its a much more comfortable ride
2.preve(all variant) uses rear disc brake which i strongly recommend...cuz it gives u future peace of mind
cuz rear drum brake creates alot of problem and u never know what fix...for disc brake, u just change the brake pad only
add: u get alot more accessories than saga as well
but choice is still yours

Wooooo! Thanks for the info man!

But the highest spec really don't have leather seats meh?

Which brings me to the next quote...

You're talking about the P3/Preve right? So...does the top of the line have leather seats or not?

Coolio. Thanks for the info bro! How long does it usually take for the car to arrive if booking is made now?

The non-CFE Preve is superior to other Proton. I guess Proton have limited options in powertrain. They only had the 1.6 campro to begin with. And the campro has been improve overtime with CPS and IAFM+, and those engine is already in previous models. To put the engine in entirely new product line, it doesn't have the 'fresh' feel on it.

cps only euro 4 compliant n only comes with dated 4 at from mitsu n dated 5mt from mitsu which sometimes hard to shift.

There are some market of p3 will enter is euro 5 compliant.

If comparing gen2 cps manual vs p3 manual, yup, still loosing, but compare gen2 cps at vs p3 cvt, p3 is on par. U shud also pwrloss of trans n tech behind it. Not saying cps is not good, but iafm+ is better interm of drivability,unless u r hard revving kind of a guy.

P3 manual 1.6, perform not far of flx 1.3 manual. If u want to try out, try the flx 1.3 manual, is it really bad or just ok. Not the fl@blm, the newly flx that come with getrag transmission.

multilink > torsion beam