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St3ph
post Apr 7 2012, 07:30 PM

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Good Day To All Fellow Forumers,

I've a few questions which has been bothering me for sometime and here it is :-

1. I've an INTEL865PERL Motherboard [PENTIUM 4 3.0] which supports SATA 1.5 And i've also bought a hard disk, WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR BLACK 1 TB.

2. Alright ,the problem lies here. Is WD CBlack famously known for having lots of bad sectors? I'm using HDD Regenerator and it's showing 100++ bad sectors [and this isn't the 1st time to have a 100 bad sectors, which means that i've also scanned it 3-4 times (formatted 3-4 times in case you're wondering what i meant) also showing 100 bad++ bad sectors, sometimes more and sometimes less]

3. Does SATA cable affects the speed of the Hard drives? for e.g. CBlack is at 6GB SATA, so does better quality SATA cable proves to have a beter speed? and is it compatible with the motherboard i'm using coz it's SATA 1.5 ?

4. the temperature for the hard drives always stayed at 39-42 degrees, is it kinda normal?

5. lastly, correct me if i'm mistaken for it, but i thought hard drives are just plug and play devices? the reason i asked is becoz i've seen from other forums saying that if we're using windows XP, we need to download some program to make it compatible with the hard drives, [something to do with RAID]

6. are there any other better brands which have low chances of getting bad sectors, quiet and smooth as well as affordable ?

Thanks and sorry for the long paragraphs smile.gif

This post has been edited by St3ph: Apr 7 2012, 07:35 PM
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post Apr 7 2012, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Apr 7 2012, 07:16 PM)
No written rule that SSDs should only be used as a boot drive. It can be used for storage, just that it is still too expensive to consider it as a form of storage and we have yet to reach 1TB SSD that is affordable for mainstream users.
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Yeah, but average user won't go for that.
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post Apr 7 2012, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(St3ph @ Apr 7 2012, 07:30 PM)
Good Day To All Fellow Forumers,

I've a few questions which has been bothering me for sometime and here it is :-

1. I've an INTEL865PERL Motherboard [PENTIUM 4 3.0] which supports SATA 1.5 And i've also bought a hard disk, WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR BLACK 1 TB.

2. Alright ,the problem lies here. Is WD CBlack famously known for having lots of bad sectors? I'm using HDD Regenerator and it's showing 100++ bad sectors [and this isn't the 1st time to have a 100 bad sectors, which means that i've also scanned it 3-4 times (formatted 3-4 times in case you're wondering what i meant) also showing 100 bad++ bad sectors, sometimes more and sometimes less]

3. Does SATA cable affects the speed of the Hard drives? for e.g. CBlack is at 6GB SATA, so does better quality SATA cable proves to have a beter speed? and is it compatible with the motherboard i'm using coz it's SATA 1.5 ?

4. the temperature for the hard drives always stayed at 39-42 degrees, is it kinda normal?

5. lastly, correct me if i'm mistaken for it, but i thought hard drives are just plug and play devices? the reason i asked is becoz i've seen from other forums saying that if we're using windows XP, we need to download some program to make it compatible with the hard drives, [something to do with RAID]

6. are there any other better brands which have low chances of getting bad sectors, quiet and smooth as well as affordable ?

Thanks and sorry for the long paragraphs smile.gif
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3. No. HDDs aren't fast enough that it bottlenecks your SATA port. It is compatible.
4. It is normal.
5. That might have to do with the Advanced Format drives. Nothing to worry about if you don't do, it will still work regardless of whether you do it or not.
6. So far any brand works for me and I usually stick with cheaper drives as I wouldn't pay the premium for a WD Black.

QUOTE(harryfoo @ Apr 7 2012, 07:36 PM)
Yeah, but average user won't go for that.
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Average users aren't going for that not because they don't want, it is because they can't afford it or it is still too expensive to be the common standard that HDDs are right now.
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post Apr 7 2012, 07:47 PM

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6. So far any brand works for me and I usually stick with cheaper drives as I wouldn't pay the premium for a WD Black.


Thanks for the reply.

In regards to the sentence quoted above, any recommendations? HITACHI?
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post Apr 7 2012, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(St3ph @ Apr 7 2012, 07:47 PM)
Thanks for the reply.

In regards to the sentence quoted above, any recommendations? HITACHI?
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None. I've used Seagate, Hitachi, Samsung and Western Digital. All are working without any problems.
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post Apr 7 2012, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Apr 7 2012, 08:00 PM)
None. I've used Seagate, Hitachi, Samsung and Western Digital. All are working without any problems.
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Oh, okay. so my guess is that it's just the manufacturer problem , nothing to do with any setup ? does constant copy/cut of files to other drives affect the sectors of a hard drives? i know it's kind of dumb .. haha!
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post Apr 7 2012, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(harryfoo @ Apr 7 2012, 06:52 PM)
I thought people use SSD as their boot disk only, why you need 240GB?
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Laptops can use the large capacities.

QUOTE(St3ph @ Apr 7 2012, 07:30 PM)
2. Alright ,the problem lies here. Is WD CBlack famously known for having lots of bad sectors?

No such reputation.

I agree with dma0991 that there are no standout HDD manufacturers at this time. Samsung used to be remarkable, for their low cost, but has since been bought by Seagate, leaving us with only three HDD manufacturers worldwide. I'd just buy the cheapest.


Added on April 7, 2012, 8:25 pm
QUOTE(St3ph @ Apr 7 2012, 08:15 PM)
Oh, okay. so my guess is that it's just the manufacturer problem , nothing to do with any setup ? does constant copy/cut of files to other drives affect the sectors of a hard drives? i know it's kind of dumb .. haha!
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Constant copying and pasting does not negatively effect your HDD. It's probably just bad luck or something environmental. Like a bad PSU that has been delivering damaging electrical currents, or a sudden shock to your desktop like when you hit the desktop by accident.

This post has been edited by everling: Apr 7 2012, 08:28 PM
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Oh yeah, I forgot about lappy.
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post Apr 7 2012, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ Apr 7 2012, 08:23 PM)
Laptops can use the large capacities.
No such reputation.

I agree with dma0991 that there are no standout HDD manufacturers at this time. Samsung used to be remarkable, for their low cost, but has since been bought by Seagate, leaving us with only three HDD manufacturers worldwide. I'd just buy the cheapest.


Added on April 7, 2012, 8:25 pm
Constant copying and pasting does not negatively effect your HDD. It's probably just bad luck or something environmental. Like a bad PSU that has been delivering damaging electrical currents, or a sudden shock to your desktop like when you hit the desktop by accident.
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okay, thanks! at least i've got a confirmation that any hard drives will do. smile.gif

Thank you for the help.

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post Apr 8 2012, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ Apr 7 2012, 12:36 PM)
Got links?

In any case, it is up to the individual. I'm pretty sure that there are hundreds of thousands of satisfied SF-1200 users, otherwise OCZ and a lot of other SSD manufacturers would have closed shop by now. But I am not willing nor desperate enough to risk it.
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post Apr 8 2012, 11:16 PM

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my primary HDD detected as this warning
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whats this current pending and uncorrectable?

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post Apr 9 2012, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Apr 7 2012, 08:00 PM)
None. I've used Seagate, Hitachi, Samsung and Western Digital. All are working without any problems.
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hi dear all hard disk experts, what software is the BEST to scan & diagnose for HDD problem ya? icon_question.gif

pls recommend me... icon_question.gif


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QUOTE(win7 @ Apr 9 2012, 06:04 PM)
hi dear all hard disk experts, what software is the BEST to scan & diagnose for HDD problem ya? icon_question.gif

pls recommend me... icon_question.gif
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i use crystaldisk info
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post Apr 9 2012, 09:53 PM

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post Apr 9 2012, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(win7 @ Apr 9 2012, 06:04 PM)
hi dear all hard disk experts, what software is the BEST to scan & diagnose for HDD problem ya?
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You can try the free tools listed in the first post.

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post Apr 10 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ Apr 7 2012, 08:23 PM)
I agree with dma0991 that there are no standout HDD manufacturers at this time. Samsung used to be remarkable, for their low cost, but has since been bought by Seagate, leaving us with only three HDD manufacturers worldwide. I'd just buy the cheapest.
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I missing Sansung awesome HDD! Bestest cool performance and mostest value for money!

Now I looking for a bigger version of HD130SJ in 2TB 7200rpm version...any suggestion? anyone?
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post Apr 10 2012, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Apr 10 2012, 11:26 AM)
I missing Sansung awesome HDD! Bestest cool performance and mostest value for money!

Now I looking for a bigger version of HD130SJ in 2TB 7200rpm version...any suggestion? anyone?
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now still can get samsung hdd?

RMA-ed my Samsung F4 (HD204UI) to Seagate last wk, yesterday they returned me a Seagate ST2000DL004, it is a re-badge according to this site
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Apr 10 2012, 06:28 PM)
now still can get samsung hdd? kenot lo. cry.gif

RMA-ed my Samsung F4 (HD204UI) to Seagate last wk, yesterday they returned me a Seagate ST2000DL004, it is a re-badge according to this site
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Thanks for the link!
Awesome info.
This drive is now called the Seagate ST2000DL004 as well as the Samsung HD204UI

Samsung's F4 EcoGreen is the first drive available to feature 667GB per platter. Samsung’s F4 Series EcoGreen Drive (F4EG) is the ideal high capacity drive for green computing environments. The new eco-friendly hard drive, F4EG is designed to meet demand for high performance devices with lower power consumption. Samsung’s EcoGreen F4 makes it possible to design storage systems with the right balance of high capacity, fast performance and energy conservation. Samsung F4EG has the world’s best areal density at 5400RPM rotation speeds. High density means more bits pass under the head faster, and it improves the drive performance. Samsung employs an advanced data recording technology, which brings the next generation technology into today’s single disk platform, enabling Samsung’s new 5400RPM drives to perform at current 7200RPM drive speeds. The internal SysMark test results confirms that F4EG performs as same as 7200RPM drive speeds, and even 10% faster than other green drives.

- Capacity: 2TB
- Cache: 32MB
- Interface: SATA-II
- Spin Speed: 5400RPM
- Seek Time: 8.9ms
- 3.5" Drive
- Warranty: 3 Years

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post Apr 11 2012, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Apr 10 2012, 08:20 PM)
Thanks for the link!
Awesome info.
This drive is now called the Seagate ST2000DL004 as well as the Samsung HD204UI
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yes, confirmed Seagate ST2000DL004 = Samsung HD204UI (refer to screenshot)

was given a brand new set rather than re-certified refurbished copy, phew sweat.gif

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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Apr 11 2012, 11:59 AM)
yes, confirmed Seagate ST2000DL004 = Samsung HD204UI

was given a brand new set rather than re-certified refurbished copy, phew sweat.gif
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arrrgggg....very few sellers in LYN knows about this model. sweat.gif

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