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post Jan 23 2012, 05:06 PM, updated 9y ago

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lets roll on from here, please do make specifications as clear as possible, like want expandable, or on board large storage, need play flac, need pictorial display etc etc

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post Jan 23 2012, 05:09 PM

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the last question:

QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jan 20 2012, 10:22 PM)
What is the best player under rm1k? smile.gif

I dont mind the types of formats supported, as most of the time i'll be playing mp3 format only. No, Im not planning to watch movies/vids

Prefers nice battery life and most importantly the sound quality.
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post Jan 23 2012, 05:12 PM

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haha i would recommend the cowon D2+
or the j3
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post Jan 23 2012, 05:34 PM

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post Jan 23 2012, 06:46 PM

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portable media player* to be exact smile.gif
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post Jan 23 2012, 09:08 PM

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im using the S9 up fr the D2 but i think i love my d2 more


Added on January 23, 2012, 9:08 pmu can try the telclast x19 hd hahaha lots of power inside

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post Jan 24 2012, 04:40 PM

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Check out the Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0 and 5.0 on amazon... price already drop also... it powers my subwoofers a lot better than my laptop! can play mcm2 format also.. battery if play music 3 days or even more also can tahan~
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post Jan 25 2012, 06:17 PM

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anyone here is using the samsung player 5.0? where can i buy it in malaysia can hardly find it

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post Jan 25 2012, 06:22 PM

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lyp got sell cube c30?
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post Jan 25 2012, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(yuka @ Jan 25 2012, 06:22 PM)
lyp got sell cube c30?
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not sure, never see it at lyp
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QUOTE(nordingh @ Jan 25 2012, 06:36 PM)
not sure, never see it at lyp
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LYP got sell what player instead of Ipod?
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QUOTE(yuka @ Jan 25 2012, 07:46 PM)
LYP got sell what player instead of Ipod?
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post Jan 30 2012, 11:25 PM

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juggling/choosing between sansa fuze+ , sansa clip+ and cowon iAudio E2

budget BEST below RM300

priority
-music SQ
-battery life
-lightweight (gonna be skating sometimes, really dont want a heavy piece dangling in my pocket)

advice pls notworthy.gif

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post Jan 30 2012, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jan 30 2012, 11:25 PM)
juggling/choosing between sansa fuze+ , sansa clip+ and cowon iAudio E2

budget BEST below RM300

priority
-music SQ
-battery life
-lightweight (gonna be skating sometimes, really dont want a heavy piece dangling in my pocket)

advice pls  notworthy.gif
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more options are teclast x19HD, cube c30, hippo gumstick

it all dials down to what kinda interface u like, cause the 3 i said are "3 line text" interface
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post Jan 30 2012, 11:52 PM

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x19HD. small, light, 20+hrs battery life and it sounds good.
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post Jan 30 2012, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Jan 30 2012, 11:52 PM)
x19HD. small, light, 20+hrs battery life and it sounds good.
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haha i beat u to the answer, trololol
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post Jan 31 2012, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Jan 30 2012, 11:52 PM)
x19HD. small, light, 20+hrs battery life and it sounds good.
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wow reading up on you guys reviewing x19HD, does it really outperform sansa clip+ ?O.o

*havent take a look at the cube c30 & hippo gumstick, reading atm*

and btw, i didnt know your re-shelling involves choosing colors and artwork, shit lol i think u just got me back into the "poisoned" mode lol...its been a while ever since i get this feeling xD


Added on January 31, 2012, 1:14 amis it just me or cube30 & hippo gumstick looks the same O.o


Added on January 31, 2012, 2:27 amanother question would be

is the burn in REALLY necessary?


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post Jan 31 2012, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jan 31 2012, 12:21 AM)
wow reading up on you guys reviewing x19HD, does it really outperform sansa clip+ ?O.o

*havent take a look at the cube c30 & hippo gumstick, reading atm*

and btw, i didnt know your re-shelling involves choosing colors and artwork, shit lol i think u just got me back into the "poisoned" mode lol...its been a while ever since i get this feeling xD


Added on January 31, 2012, 1:14 amis it just me or cube30 & hippo gumstick looks the same O.o


Added on January 31, 2012, 2:27 amanother question would be

is the burn in REALLY necessary?
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c30 and gumstick are similar but different in amp grade, gumstick class A c30 class AB, burn in is a personal prospective
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post Feb 4 2012, 07:25 PM

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got a iriver t9 2 months ago and i was enjoying its stock earphone. then i bought shure se215 and i can only hear flat sound from that mp3 player but full blasting bass and stuffs from my samsung galaxy s2. so should i get an amp or a new mp3 instead? i prefer getting a new mp3 instead because i dont like my pocket being full of stuffs, but if an amp is necessary then i will have no choice.

memory: not an issue but bigger is better (i only keep my favourite songs anyway)
format: FLAC or ALAC? or any other better formats? tongue.gif I am new to this
battery life: above 15 hours would be good
budget: around 700
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post Feb 5 2012, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(cyh03176 @ Feb 4 2012, 07:25 PM)
then i bought shure se215 and i can only hear flat sound from that mp3 player but full blasting bass and stuffs from my samsung galaxy s2.


Are you trying to say:

Iriver + se215 = flat sound?
Galaxy s2 + se215 = full bass?

I'm pretty sure the s2 has got a weaker amp than the iriver. Did you EQ your s2?

If you want to keep the iriver, you can get an amp like .22 / .25 or RSA Predator.
otherwise, would recommend you the x19hd player, fun signature with big deep bass.
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post Feb 5 2012, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Feb 5 2012, 10:09 AM)
Are you trying to say:

Iriver + se215 = flat sound?
Galaxy s2 + se215 = full bass?

I'm pretty sure the s2 has got a weaker amp than the iriver. Did you EQ your s2?

If you want to keep the iriver, you can get an amp like .22 / .25 or RSA Predator.
otherwise,  would recommend you the x19hd player, fun signature with big deep bass.
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i tuned my s2 to automatic eq and max all settings in iriver eq

the iriver impedance output is 16ohm and my se215 required 20ohm, that is why i think
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QUOTE(cyh03176 @ Feb 5 2012, 12:33 PM)
i tuned my s2 to automatic eq and max all settings in iriver eq

the iriver impedance output is 16ohm and my se215 required 20ohm, that is why i think
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nothing to do with 16ohm or 20ohm.
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QUOTE(nordingh @ Feb 5 2012, 12:52 PM)
nothing to do with 16ohm or 20ohm.
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so output impedance does not matter?
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post Feb 5 2012, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(cyh03176 @ Feb 5 2012, 12:33 PM)
i tuned my s2 to automatic eq and max all settings in iriver eq

the iriver impedance output is 16ohm and my se215 required 20ohm, that is why i think
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if you max all the settings in your iriver, i'd suggest that you just fix them all at 0. your player might be clipping like crazy.

your se215 is rated at 20ohms and your iriver output impedance is rated at 16 ohms. it doesn't matter.
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zune hd is a great player. i wonder why the price went up like crazy ($326.99usd for 16GB)
http://www.amazon.com/Zune-Video-MP3-Playe...28802111&sr=8-2

i also like meizu m6 sq, awesome!!
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post Feb 16 2012, 12:30 AM

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Any type of player can record FM?

Mainly use for FM recording only.

Any suggestion?

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Can recommend me cheapest@value DAP with line-out?
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QUOTE(yuka @ Feb 16 2012, 06:56 PM)
Can recommend me cheapest@value DAP with line-out?
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ipod or sony walkman can.. but need to buy LOD.
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QUOTE(nordingh @ Feb 16 2012, 10:07 PM)
ipod or sony walkman can.. but need to buy LOD.
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sony walkman which model?
how bout rocoo?
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QUOTE(yuka @ Feb 16 2012, 10:21 PM)
sony walkman which model?
how bout rocoo?
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A, E, X, S Series can, all use same cable. Or simply said all Walkman® Video MP3 Player. Not the Walkman® MP3 Player.

Never try rocco.
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y never try? coz rocoo is too gud? or too bad?
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i got problem choosing between Sansa Clip Zip and cube c30..the price wise for sansa is RM 230 and c30 RM 160..the interface better on clip but c30 rumoured to be best budget player..
cant decide la..
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anyone can help me to choose media player.. this one just for suka2 only..hehehehe.. any model that cheap and able to play as many format as it can! and must small and portable, lastly must worth to buy it!
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QUOTE(Hantu641 @ Feb 22 2012, 11:35 PM)
i got problem choosing between Sansa Clip Zip and cube c30..the price wise for sansa is RM 230 and c30 RM 160..the interface better on clip but c30 rumoured to be best budget player..
cant decide la..
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QUOTE(sapik900906 @ Feb 23 2012, 07:33 PM)
anyone can help me to choose media player.. this one just for suka2 only..hehehehe.. any model that cheap and able to play as many format as it can! and must small and portable, lastly must worth to buy it!
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Would recommend both the x19hd
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post Feb 25 2012, 07:16 PM

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I'm confuse between cube c30 or x19hd.
Cube c30 has micro sd slot, x19hd dont have.
Cube c30 is bundle with F1 pro earphone.
x19hd have better amp chip than c30.
Is x19hd only support chinese language?
Mostly I listen to alternative, acoustic and some rock music.
Which is the best for me?
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x19hd supports english display among other languages.


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QUOTE(hongrui @ Feb 25 2012, 10:49 PM)
x19hd supports english display among other languages.
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Thanks for the info! rclxms.gif
I think I'm getting x19hd coz it can sort out album,artist, etc.
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post Feb 26 2012, 06:46 PM

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guys, thinking of buying sansa clip+..the mp3 is for my mother..so need a mp3 that easy with buttons..

this one have to buy online right? can get any of sansa mp3 series local?
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QUOTE(takehiko @ Feb 26 2012, 06:46 PM)
guys, thinking of buying sansa clip+..the mp3 is for my mother..so need a mp3 that easy with buttons..

this one have to buy online right? can get any of sansa mp3 series local?
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why not consider the simplistic cube c30 or x19hd, it goes like this press on-> play, thats it
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but the display better on sansa clip+ for my mother right? sorry never bought a mp3 b4..
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QUOTE(takehiko @ Feb 26 2012, 07:54 PM)
but the display better on sansa clip+ for my mother right? sorry never bought a mp3 b4..
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x19hd or cube c30 is not bad too.
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Budget : <500RM.
Using : IEMs - UE 600vi
Listens to - Rock (Foo fighters, Kings of Leon, Jack Johnson and post-rock like Toe), Indie and Orchestras.
Formats - Mostly MP3, does not really matter.
Size - 16gb or more, if can expand even better.
If it helps, I want to use it for drumming as well, such as to listen while covering songs, etc.
Please recommend.

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hi people,

Budget : <RM150 , the cheaper the better
Using : koss kcs75 - when its fixed XD
Listens to - Clubbing songs,kpop, mostly upbeat songs
Formats - Mostly MP3, does not really matter.
Size - I feel 1gb is enought = =

Usage : for jogging and work out , hence needs a somesort of clip if possible.

Please recommend.
Thank you.

Just checked on some models mentioned here , the only one with clip is sansa clip ?
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QUOTE(NamiTomato @ Mar 18 2012, 12:14 AM)
Budget : <500RM.
Using : IEMs - UE 600vi
Listens to - Rock (Foo fighters, Kings of Leon, Jack Johnson and post-rock like Toe), Indie and Orchestras.
Formats - Mostly MP3, does not really matter.
Size - 8/16gb, if can expand even better.
If it helps, I want to use it for drumming as well, such as to listen while covering songs, etc.
Please recommend.
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Teclast x19HD

QUOTE(pcm123 @ Mar 19 2012, 01:46 PM)
Just checked on some models mentioned here , the only one with clip is sansa clip ?
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yep, the only one with the clip that i know of is the sansa clip.
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QUOTE(hongrui @ Mar 19 2012, 10:51 PM)
Teclast x19HD
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Does this player have an expansion slot?
I did some thinking and I have concluded that I require 16gb or more.

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Unfortunately, no expansion slot.
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QUOTE(NamiTomato @ Mar 20 2012, 02:53 AM)
Does this player have an expansion slot?
I did some thinking and I have concluded that I require 16gb or more.
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cube c30, expandable up to 32GB.
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Guys just asking your opinion..
This model is good for me to go?
http://www.sony.lv/product/nws-s-series/nwz-s764

im looking for good mp3 with bluetooth build-in..wan pair with Jaybird ^^
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QUOTE(shah93 @ Mar 20 2012, 07:33 PM)
Guys just asking your opinion..
This model is good for me to go?
http://www.sony.lv/product/nws-s-series/nwz-s764

im looking for good mp3 with bluetooth build-in..wan pair with Jaybird ^^
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Sony A865, Sony Z1060 android(releasing this month iinm), iPod Touch 4th gen also can support bluetooth too.
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since my x19hd kena rendam water and rosak, my c30 battery died, need a new player, suggest me something with large capacity
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Apr 4 2012, 11:11 AM)
since my x19hd kena rendam water and rosak, my c30 battery died, need a new player, suggest me something with large capacity
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LOL how large you want? laugh.gif
Apple got 160GB, Cowon got 160GB too tongue.gif
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Apr 4 2012, 01:22 PM)
LOL how large you want?  laugh.gif
Apple got 160GB, Cowon got 160GB too tongue.gif
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nvm the capacity, now looking on the minimalistic sansa clip+ and maybe a rockbox on it
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Looking for a new DAP...

-Budget 100-250
-MicroSD mandatory
-FLAC mandatory
-more than 24H playback mandatory
-Rockbox mandatory
-Radio
-Must microUSB

other functions I dont care...no earphones oso no problem, no color screen oso no problem....

Currently asking for this https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry50316032 .....If price no good might be looking at Nokia X2-02 (but no flac)...

Those x19hd and C30 ok or not?

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QUOTE(antonio @ Apr 6 2012, 03:41 AM)
Looking for a new DAP...

-Budget 100-250
-MicroSD mandatory
-FLAC mandatory
-more than 24H playback mandatory
-Rockbox mandatory
-Radio
-Must microUSB

other functions I dont care...no earphones oso no problem, no color screen oso no problem....

Currently asking for this https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry50316032 .....If price no good might be looking at Nokia X2-02 (but no flac)...

Those x19hd and C30 ok or not?
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sansa clip+ or sansa clip zip,
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Apr 6 2012, 07:21 AM)
sansa clip+ or sansa clip zip,
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battery life and servicing how ahh?? looks like it is running a small battery size... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(antonio @ Apr 6 2012, 03:57 PM)
battery life and servicing how ahh?? looks like it is running a small battery size... sweat.gif
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sansa clip + can be rockboxed and after that lasts roughly 10 hours playback, clip zip no rockbox may have shorter play time


Added on April 6, 2012, 4:04 pmeither this or cube c30 / x19HD
C30 sound is cleaner compared to x19HD, X19HD has more power
C30 uses BBE, X19HD uses SRS
Both battery cycle also 10-12 hours

This post has been edited by noobandroid: Apr 6 2012, 04:04 PM
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Guys I wanna ask which shop got sell Telecast X19HD and/or cube C30 besides online where can I get it? LYP got? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Apr 10 2012, 06:16 PM)
Guys I wanna ask which shop got sell Telecast X19HD and/or cube C30 besides online where can I get it? LYP got? hmm.gif
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less likely, both stock are from on9 seller AFAIK
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post Apr 10 2012, 06:53 PM

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Looking for a good mobile player, decided to ditch my gen3 iPod touch for a more mobile/better SQ alternative.

Budget : 700-1k
Using : UE Triple.fi 10s
Music : Everything from acoustic and rock to pop and DnB.
- Multi format compatible(FLAC, if possible ALAC)
- Long battery life (15-20hr)
- Big memory capacity
- Onboard DAC/Amp

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I can only think of HiFiMan 601/602.

Or maybe an old ipod 5/5.5th gen rockboxed and DIY hard disk upgrade.

Sanza players also can be rockboxed and then you can add on a 32gb microsd.
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QUOTE(cyloh @ Apr 10 2012, 07:14 PM)
I can only think of HiFiMan 601/602.

Or maybe an old ipod 5/5.5th gen rockboxed and DIY hard disk upgrade.

Sanza players also can be rockboxed and then you can add on a 32gb microsd.
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arent HiFiMan uber pricey?
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Jaben has 601 for RM900.

Seems that the 602 big difference in pricing though at RM1550. It has USB DAC hmm.gif

I think buy direct from hifiman can have the 602 slightly cheaper but at the expense of local support, possible tax bomb, etc etc.
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Jaben has 601 for RM900.

Seems that the 602 big difference in pricing though at RM1550. It has USB DAC  hmm.gif

I think buy direct from hifiman can have the 602 slightly cheaper but at the expense of local support, possible tax bomb, etc etc.
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The 601 has barely 9 hours of battery-life. The SQ rating is good but everything else seems to be only about average? Any have a better recommendation? I'm going for a vacation soon so I'm hoping to decide and buy one for traveling by next week.
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The 601 has barely 9 hours of battery-life. The SQ rating is good but everything else seems to be only about average? Any have a better recommendation? I'm going for a vacation soon so I'm hoping to decide and buy one for traveling by next week.
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Perhaps Cowon J3? No ALAC support though. Website says 64hours music playback. Get the 32GB version and slot in another 32GB microsd.
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Perhaps Cowon J3? No ALAC support though. Website says 64hours music playback. Get the 32GB version and slot in another 32GB microsd.
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QUOTE(RowanPaladin @ Apr 11 2012, 04:14 PM)
I can live with 64Gb of music wink.gif And ALAC is an optional requirement as I was using iPod for a long time and I converted most of my FLACs into ALACs so iTunes will read them. Guess it's time to re-extract all of my FLAC archive then, it's gonna be a long week.
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At least you have back ups. All I have is ALACs. Will be a big headache for me to switch to non Apple Lossless players. Not to mention the possible loss of quality if re-encode to FLAC.

I think Cowon J3 32gb + 32gb microsd is going to set you back around RM1400.

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At least you have back ups. All I have is ALACs. Will be a big headache for me to switch to non Apple Lossless players. Not to mention the possible loss of quality if re-encode to FLAC.

I think Cowon J3 32gb + 32gb microsd is going to set you back around RM1500 to 1600+ lol.
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Well, MrJinggles has the J3 32gb for 1190, and I have an old 16gb Mircosd. Only problem is, his thread says 2 weeks for delivery....
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Well, MrJinggles has the J3 32gb for 1190, and I have an old 16gb Mircosd. Only problem is, his thread says 2 weeks for delivery....
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Sanza clips, clip zip or fuze all accept microsd. 20 hours music playback IINM. Head-fi has good reviews on their sound signature, some even prefer it more than apple's.

C30 is another you can consider. 15 to 20 hours playback with microsd support too.

Or save yourself the headache and get the ipod classic 160gb tongue.gif Rated at 36 hours playback.

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Sanza clips, clip zip or fuze all accept microsd. 20 hours music playback IINM. Head-fi has good reviews on their sound signature, some even prefer it more than apple's.

C30 is another you can consider. 15 to 20 hours playback with microsd support too.

Or save yourself the headache and get the ipod classic 160gb tongue.gif Rated at 36 hours playback.
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That's the thing. I've had iPods for awhile now and they all sound, at best, average, not to mention it those apps are so distracting. tongue.gif So I'm looking for something plainly for music with a built in BBE, as all my iPods had SonicMax pro installed.

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That's the thing. I've had iPods for awhile now and they all sound, at best, average, not to mention it those apps are so distraction. tongue.gif So I'm looking for something plainly for music with a built in BBE, as all my iPods had SonicMax pro installed.
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Does BBE make any difference on lossless music? hmm.gif

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Is that app just an equalizer app?

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Is that app just an equalizer app?
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Not quite. Here's a quote from the app's FAQ regarding the question:

Equalizers manipulate sound by suppressing and boosting various points on the audio wavelength spectrum. SonicMax Pro doesn't distort the spectrum-it keeps it aligned. Because of impedance and power restraints, most speakers (earbuds, earphones and docks included) tend to delay the high frequencies, causing the mid and low parts of the audio to reach your ears first-out of sync with the high frequencies-resulting in sound that is muddy and unfocused. SonicMax delays the mid and low frequencies so that all the sound (low, mid and high) hits your ear at the same time. This results in what we would call pure, clean sound.

As for if it actually affects lossless file quality, as the answer also states, it allows you to customize the outputs, from bass "thump and/or punch" to making the mids clearer and even setting your speaker/earphone's optimum KHz. So it's not so much how much better it sounds on Lossless but rather how much control you have when you listen to your lossless, if that makes sense. blush.gif
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Not quite. Here's a quote from the app's FAQ regarding the question:

Equalizers manipulate sound by suppressing and boosting various points on the audio wavelength spectrum. SonicMax Pro doesn't distort the spectrum-it keeps it aligned. Because of impedance and power restraints, most speakers (earbuds, earphones and docks included) tend to delay the high frequencies, causing the mid and low parts of the audio to reach your ears first-out of sync with the high frequencies-resulting in sound that is muddy and unfocused. SonicMax delays the mid and low frequencies so that all the sound (low, mid and high) hits your ear at the same time. This results in what we would call pure, clean sound.

As for if it actually affects lossless file quality, as the answer also states, it allows you to customize the outputs, from bass "thump and/or punch" to making the mids clearer and even setting your speaker/earphone's optimum KHz. So it's not so much how much better it sounds on Lossless but rather how much control you have when you listen to your lossless, if that makes sense. blush.gif
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Sounds good. Feeling the pinch haha, not willing to fork out the 4.99 for now.

I use Headquake. Some sort of 3d soundstage app.

So have you decided what player to go for?
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Sounds good. Feeling the pinch haha, not willing to fork out the 4.99 for now.

I use Headquake. Some sort of 3d soundstage app.

So have you decided what player to go for?
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As for the price, I think $3.99 is very small compared to what we'd pay for a piece of good audio gear.

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Hi sifu sifu sekalian. Can anyone please recommend me a MP3 player?

budget RM400-600

priority
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-easy to control buttons (cause i will be using it when i ride. so its nice to switch songs with just one simple click of a button) =))

Currently using Ipod touch 3rd gen 32gb, not that easy to switch songs when i ride, still gonna unlock and stuff.

Using Grado Labs sr80i and Yuin Pk 2.

THX!!!!!

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QUOTE(mosesmao @ Apr 14 2012, 02:18 AM)
Hi sifu sifu sekalian. Can anyone please recommend me a MP3 player?

budget RM400-600

priority
-music SQ
-memory storage
-easy to control buttons (cause i will be using it when i ride. so its nice to switch songs with just one simple click of a button) =))

Currently using Ipod touch 3rd gen 32gb, not that easy to switch songs when i ride, still gonna unlock and stuff.

Using Grado Labs sr80i and Yuin Pk 2.

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Try Sansa Clip+. Small, easy to operate and much cheaper than RM400. smile.gif

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Try Sansa Clip+. Small, easy to operate and much cheaper than RM400. smile.gif
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wow. Thx guys. how about the other SANSAs? (Clip, Fuze, Zip) or isit just specifically only Clip+ is awesome? =D

what is Rockbox? isit a hardware enhancement or software?
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QUOTE(mosesmao @ Apr 14 2012, 11:28 AM)
wow. Thx guys. how about the other SANSAs? (Clip, Fuze, Zip) or isit just specifically only Clip+ is awesome? =D

what is Rockbox? isit a hardware enhancement or software?
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http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhyRockbox

and btw not all sansa can rockbox, only Sansa c200, e200 and e200R series, Fuze, Clip and Clip+
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wow. Thx guys. how about the other SANSAs? (Clip, Fuze, Zip) or isit just specifically only Clip+ is awesome? =D

what is Rockbox? isit a hardware enhancement or software?
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It's a firmware. Makes everything simpler to use. I've only tested it out but from the 30min-ish I had with it, I noticed everything was much faster than the original firmware.

The other Sansas are also viable, but the Clip+ is more of a no-hassle, push-and-play player you were asking about. Also, Clip+ is the only one in the line-up that supports FLAC iirc.

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cause i will be using it when i ride. so its nice to switch songs with just one simple click of a button =))
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blink.gif blink.gif can i just say that this isn't a very good idea?
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blink.gif  blink.gif can i just say that this isn't a very good idea?
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True dat. Maybe a cord with volume/play-pause control? Any recommendations?
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True dat. Maybe a cord with volume/play-pause control? Any recommendations?
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Hmm. Can use the iPod touch earphone(With volume control) to control the clip? cause when I ride the sq is not that important. Can't really listen in detail cause of the wind noise.

From the looks of it. i think Clip + is my best choice here.

Thx for the informative reply. Much appreciated.
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I know almost any iPhone /smartphone compatible cables will work with the iPods but not sure about the Clip+(again, I only tested them for a little while) most probably you will only be able to play/pause.
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QUOTE(mosesmao @ Apr 14 2012, 12:55 PM)
Hmm. Can use the iPod touch earphone(With volume control) to control the clip? cause when I ride the sq is not that important. Can't really listen in detail cause of the wind noise.

From the looks of it. i think Clip + is my best choice here.

Thx for the informative reply. Much appreciated.
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riding while listening music is dangerous, u will not be aware of your surrounding, not recommended, dangerous
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riding while listening music is dangerous, u will not be aware of your surrounding, not recommended, dangerous
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No worries. Won't be listening at loud volume. It will be like driving a car with the radio on. Still be able to hear the surrounding. Hehe


Added on April 18, 2012, 10:53 pmhmmm. i am having this dilemma on whether to choose the Sansa Clip Plus or the Sansa Fuze. Both almost same price but Fuze got bigger screen to scroll for songs.
Which have better SQ? =)) thx sifu sifus

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Didnt realize my question is featured as the first question of the thread lol.

But anyways, here's the updated question to the previous question:

I will be owning UE Triplefi10 + Null audio lune cable

So, which dap with decent pricing (<rm800) with lossless support, decent or expandable memory capacity and decent battery life should i choose? No video no problem coz i'll be watching MVs on my ipad / computer instead.
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Didnt realize my question is featured as the first question of the thread lol.

But anyways, here's the updated question to the previous question:

I will be owning UE Triplefi10 + Null audio lune cable

So, which dap with decent pricing (<rm800) with lossless support, decent or expandable memory capacity and decent battery life should i choose? No video no problem coz i'll be watching MVs on my ipad / computer instead.
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Looking for a good and best for money mp3 for my sister....my budget RM200 and below...thnx
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looking for portable player! can anyone tell me is sony series walkman can support line out?
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looking for portable player! can anyone tell me is sony series walkman can support line out?
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Yes, Can...  go to Fiio Fan club for cable details...  (in my signature got link).
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so can i know the s series also support or not? this need to connect to another amp/dac just have sound out right? if got this, is it much sound different between a series and s series?how much for this?
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QUOTE(ghs06565 @ May 6 2012, 11:08 AM)
so can i know the s series also support or not? this need to connect to another amp/dac just have sound out right? if got this, is it much sound different between a series and s series?how much for this?
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I using the S series too with Fiio LOD for walkman...

As I know all sony walkman using same connector....

never try A series.

Yes you need an amp... line out will give you constant output... in walkman, volume button will be disable when use line out.

I not the seller, I can't give you any price... check with bro E1-AKG.

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I using the S series too with Fiio LOD for walkman...

As I know all sony walkman using same connector....

never try A series.
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last question, if use this connector, that mean the signal will pass through the external dac, will not go through the internal dac ady!is it right? so the sound quality is depend on the external dac, not walkman dac la! smile.gif
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QUOTE(ghs06565 @ May 6 2012, 11:23 AM)
last question, if use this connector, that mean the signal will pass through the external dac, will not go through the internal dac ady!is it right? so the sound quality is depend on the external dac, not walkman dac la! smile.gif
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It will bypass the internal amp only, not the internal dac..

Internal dac still need to use to convert digital to analog signal.

Line out is analog not digital.

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It will bypass the internal amp only, not the internal dac..

Internal dac still need to use to convert digital to analog signal.

Line out is analog not digital.
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that mean it also will pass through both internal dac and amp!then if connect the external dac/ amp,it also will through again? after connect external dac, so the sound volume is adjust by walkman itself or external dac?
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QUOTE(ghs06565 @ May 6 2012, 11:30 AM)
confused rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
that mean it also will pass through both internal dac and amp!then if connect the external dac/ amp,it also will through again? after connect external dac, so the sound volume is adjust by walkman itself or external dac?
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you might not know how things work...

In walkman flow
song --> internal DAC (convert digital to analog) --> internal amp (with volume adjustments)--> headphone

by using line out cable
song --> internal DAC (convert digital to analog) --> line out (no volume can be adjust) --> your external amp (with volume adjustments)--> headphone

You cannot use external DAC with walkman.

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QUOTE(nordingh @ May 6 2012, 11:47 AM)
you might not know how things work...

In walkman flow
song --> internal DAC (convert digital to analog) --> internal amp (with volume adjustments)--> headphone

by using line out cable
song --> internal DAC (convert digital to analog) --> line out (no volume can be adjust) --> your external amp (with volume adjustments)--> headphone

You cannot use external DAC with walkman.
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so adjust volume is use the walkman itself,not external dac/amp right? thz u for ur clear explanation!

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QUOTE(ghs06565 @ May 6 2012, 11:51 AM)
so adjust volume is use the walkman itself,not external dac/amp right? thz u for ur clear explanation!
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If use line out, volume on walkman is disabled... you need to adjust on your external amp.

You cannot use external DAC with walkman, only external AMP.

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If use line out, volume on walkman is disabled...  you need to adjust on your external amp.

You cannot use external DAC with walkman, only external AMP.
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get it! thz for ur patient explanation. sorry for any inconvenience! how much for the fiio l5?
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get it! thz for ur patient explanation. sorry for any inconvenience! how much for the fiio l5?
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is it any different btw sony a series and s series walkman, go through online, some ppl said that a series using the better dac than s series? is it any different on sound quality? i will use the line out, so i think the s master amp is useless for me, so ignore it! is s master amp will improve the sound quality?
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Hello there good people of LYN!

I'm looking for a new, carefree digital player. Now I am concentrating my budget on the IEM/heapdhone, so the player will not be expensive but will have to sound good. I have in mind is an ACS T15. I'm running away from bass for a while because I have been listening with the uber-awesome bass god the FS Atrio for close to a year now, and I'd like some change in sound sig and an upgrade. Will be back into buying bass IEMs (maybe the Senn IE8 brows.gif ) later in the future.

So I need something which will cost Under RM400, has expandable memory and warm sound. X19HD is out. I'm left with a few range from Sansa, and Cube C30/Gumstick and the like. Hoping that there is some new DAP which I haven't heard of since I left this audiophile arena for a while that you guys can recommend. Something that will be plugged to a mid-range IEM/headphone and will have that analytical but warm sound. I don't mind it being quite analytical and cold...maybe I need to get back intot he sound that made me fell in love with high-end audio in the first place. tongue.gif

Any thoughts on HiSoundAudio RoCoo-P?
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No idea how the roocoo sounds but i think the sansa clip fits your requirements.

One more thing, ie8 has been replaced by ie80.

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QUOTE(hongrui @ May 8 2012, 03:27 PM)
No idea how the roocoo sounds but i think the sansa clip fits your requirements.

One more thing, ie8 has been replaced by ie80.
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More expensive than the IE8 i presume?

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ May 8 2012, 02:24 PM)
Hello there good people of LYN!

I'm looking for a new, carefree digital player. Now I am concentrating my budget on the IEM/heapdhone, so the player will not be expensive but will have to sound good. I have in mind is an ACS T15. I'm running away from bass for a while because I have been listening with the uber-awesome bass god the FS Atrio for close to a year now, and I'd like some change in sound sig and an upgrade. Will be back into buying bass IEMs (maybe the Senn IE8  brows.gif  ) later in the future.

So I need something which will cost Under RM400, has expandable memory and warm sound. X19HD is out. I'm left with a few range from Sansa, and Cube C30/Gumstick and the like. Hoping that there is some new DAP which I haven't heard of since I left this audiophile arena for a while that you guys can recommend. Something that will be plugged to a mid-range IEM/headphone and will have that analytical but warm sound. I don't mind it being quite analytical and cold...maybe I need to get back intot he sound that made me fell in love with high-end audio in the first place.  tongue.gif

Any thoughts on HiSoundAudio RoCoo-P?
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IE80?
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More expensive than the IE8 i presume?
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QUOTE(hongrui @ May 8 2012, 09:56 PM)
no idea about the sound & price, as i strongly preferred the Atrios over IE8, so did not bothered to audition the IE80. but since im going down to  jaben tomorrow ... hmmm... laugh.gif
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Oh please do a tiny impression post here if you ever audition it. biggrin.gif
Anyways, what's a good DAP to pair with something like the ACS T15 or a Phonak Audeo? I'm leaning towards BA now as I miss hearing details after almost a year with warm and bassy. The Atrio isn't that bad with detail but needs a little bit of concentration on my part to hear them.

Something like the Clip Zip is okay ya?

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I prefer the t15 over the phonak iems, t15 fits my taste more.

I would pair the t15 with a more neutral dap like sanza clip, x19 and c30 might be a little too bass boosted, unless you find it lacking in that aspect.


Added on May 9, 2012, 1:12 pmJaben has got no stock for the IE80.

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Hello there good people of LYN!

I'm looking for a new, carefree digital player. Now I am concentrating my budget on the IEM/heapdhone, so the player will not be expensive but will have to sound good. I have in mind is an ACS T15. I'm running away from bass for a while because I have been listening with the uber-awesome bass god the FS Atrio for close to a year now, and I'd like some change in sound sig and an upgrade. Will be back into buying bass IEMs (maybe the Senn IE8  brows.gif  ) later in the future.

So I need something which will cost Under RM400, has expandable memory and warm sound. X19HD is out. I'm left with a few range from Sansa, and Cube C30/Gumstick and the like. Hoping that there is some new DAP which I haven't heard of since I left this audiophile arena for a while that you guys can recommend. Something that will be plugged to a mid-range IEM/headphone and will have that analytical but warm sound. I don't mind it being quite analytical and cold...maybe I need to get back intot he sound that made me fell in love with high-end audio in the first place.  tongue.gif

Any thoughts on HiSoundAudio RoCoo-P?
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QUOTE(Audiophile007 @ May 11 2012, 12:50 AM)
Nothing speaks better than your ears  nod.gif
Haha biggrin.gif Would you like to give a try on the Rocoo P? Since I am having one unit with me now, perhaps we can meet up for auditioning biggrin.gif
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Tried the Sansa Fuze+, and since all the other products like the Clip Zip and Clip+ share almost and identical sound (almost) I'd say I tried them all. tongue.gif

Tried the Gumstick and C30 and they were quite a little bit more engaging and musical compared to the Fuze+.

Read rave reviews aboutt he Rocco-P...but where are you anyway? I'm at KK. If you're somewhere else far away that wouldn't be possible.

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ May 11 2012, 05:37 AM)
Tried the Sansa Fuze+, and since all the other products like the Clip Zip and Clip+ share almost and identical sound (almost) I'd say I tried them all.  tongue.gif

Tried the Gumstick and C30 and they were quite a little bit more engaging and musical compared to the Fuze+.

Read rave reviews aboutt he Rocco-P...but where are you anyway? I'm at KK. If you're somewhere else far away that wouldn't be possible.
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KK? That it's impossible sad.gif I am staying near Sunway Pyramid sad.gif What about Cowon DAP? smile.gif They are good also biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ May 11 2012, 05:37 AM)
Tried the Sansa Fuze+, and since all the other products like the Clip Zip and Clip+ share almost and identical sound (almost) I'd say I tried them all.  tongue.gif

Tried the Gumstick and C30 and they were quite a little bit more engaging and musical compared to the Fuze+.

Read rave reviews aboutt he Rocco-P...but where are you anyway? I'm at KK. If you're somewhere else far away that wouldn't be possible.
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Clip+ and Fuze+ have very different hardware (while Fuze/clip/clip+ share similar hardware), so they probably not going to have the same sound.
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QUOTE(kenjixx @ May 11 2012, 11:57 AM)
sorry but
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Clip+ and Fuze+ have very different hardware (while Fuze/clip/clip+ share similar hardware), so they probably not going to have the same sound.
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I think for my budget's sake I'm gonna stick with a Zip for my future purchase.


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KK? That it's impossible sad.gif I am staying near Sunway Pyramid sad.gif What about Cowon DAP? smile.gif They are good also biggrin.gif
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you can try my clip+ if you want to
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Evening all.

Recommend me a good PMP.
Price range is around Sansa® Clip Zip.

Sansa® Clip Zip did cross my mind.

Better if it has excellent radio frequencies.



Sometimes we need to listen to news etc.
Not just music tongue.gif

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Guys..I'm torn between the hippo gumstick and the clip zip. Has anyone heard both, and which should I go for? I prefer not carrying around an amp when on the go.
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Guys..I'm torn between the hippo gumstick and the clip zip. Has anyone heard both, and which should I go for? I prefer not carrying around an amp when on the go.
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The Hippo Gumstick IIRC has enough power for most things. Powered up my Radius DDM1, Sony MDR-EX300SL, Hippo Shroom EB and SoundMagic PL50 and PL30 pretty well. Has good bass and some colouration which gives it a bit more musicality without sounding too artificially enhanced. Also it sounds more dynamic.

The only Sansa I've ever compared it to was the Fuze+, which according to reviews sounds a little less fuller compared to a Clip+ (which is said to have a similar sound to the Clip Zip, according to a review I read at least). Comparing the Fuze+ and the Gumstick, the fun sounding one is the Gumstick. The warmer and more neutral (some would call it flat, incl. me) is the Fuze+. The Gumstick worked better with very warm IEMs like the Radius DDM, while the Fuze+ works well with analytical ones.

In terms of power both can drive IEMs pretty loud without cracking so no probs there. Practicality wise I'd say Sansas with the better UI and longer battery life wins. Both sound good, it's just a matter of preference.

Sansa Clip/+, Fuze/+, Zip seems to share a similar sound sig, although sounding a bit different here and there....that is if you can detect those difference.


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Evening all.

Recommend me a good PMP.
Price range is around Sansa® Clip Zip.

Sansa® Clip Zip did cross my mind.

Better if it has excellent radio frequencies.
Sometimes we need to listen to news etc.
Not just music  tongue.gif

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Scratch Gumstick as it has terrible radio reception. tongue.gif
If my memory serves me right, the Fuze+ I had did have a good radio reception. Displays quite nice too on the screen. tongue.gif Dunno about the smaller Clip Zip. The 4GB Fuze+ should be priced around the same as an 8GB Zip (or maybe cheaper).

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ May 17 2012, 10:48 PM)
The Hippo Gumstick IIRC has enough power for most things. Powered up my Radius DDM1, Sony MDR-EX300SL, Hippo Shroom EB and SoundMagic PL50 and PL30 pretty well. Has good bass and some colouration which gives it a bit more musicality without sounding too artificially enhanced. Also it sounds more dynamic.

The only Sansa I've ever compared it to was the Fuze+, which according to reviews sounds a little less fuller compared to a Clip+ (which is said to have a similar sound to the Clip Zip, according to a review I read at least). Comparing the Fuze+ and the Gumstick, the fun sounding one is the Gumstick. The warmer and more neutral (some would call it flat, incl. me) is the Fuze+. The Gumstick worked better with very warm IEMs like the Radius DDM, while the Fuze+ works well with analytical ones.

In terms of power both can drive IEMs pretty loud without cracking so no probs there. Practicality wise I'd say Sansas with the better UI and longer battery life wins. Both sound good, it's just a matter of preference.

Sansa Clip/+, Fuze/+, Zip seems to share a similar sound sig, although sounding a bit different here and there....that is if you can detect those difference.
Thanks for the detailed description! I've read somewhere that the Gumstick has some UI bugs (playing the wrong song, etc.)

Is it a big enough issue for me to reconisider the gumstick?
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Thanks for the detailed description! I've read somewhere that the Gumstick has some UI bugs (playing the wrong song, etc.)

Is it a big enough issue for me to reconisider the gumstick?
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Those UI bugs are minor from my experience and rarely happens. If, however I scroll really fast and select really quickly I do get stuff like wrong button response and lag. If you buy it from Jaben they have a great customer support for warranty, for when something really bad happens to the player (like it won't turn on for example). Oh and visibility under strong light, really is as bad as they say...just so you know. I never did mind that, always have my hands blocking the light away. laugh.gif

Oh and I dunno if there are newer firmware for the Gumstick, but FLAC files that have a high compression level doesn't work well with it. They often don't play. If there is like a firmware revision recently that fixes this, then it's great.

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ May 18 2012, 12:34 AM)
Those UI bugs are minor from my experience and rarely happens. If, however I scroll really fast and select really quickly I do get stuff like wrong button response and lag. If you buy it from Jaben they have a great customer support for warranty, for when something really bad happens to the player (like it won't turn on for example). Oh and visibility under strong light, really is as bad as they say...just so you know. I never did mind that, always have my hands blocking the light away.  laugh.gif

Oh and I dunno if there are newer firmware for the Gumstick, but FLAC files that have a high compression level doesn't work well with it. They often don't play. If there is like a firmware revision recently that fixes this, then it's great.
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ May 17 2012, 10:48 PM)
Scratch Gumstick as it has terrible radio reception.  tongue.gif
If my memory serves me right, the Fuze+ I had did have a good radio reception. Displays quite nice too on the screen.  tongue.gif  Dunno about the smaller Clip Zip.  The 4GB Fuze+ should be priced around the same as an 8GB Zip (or maybe cheaper).
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Can get ALL local radio transmission?
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Can get ALL local radio transmission?
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Yeah pretty much. That is for the Fuze+ though. Not sure about the others.

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ May 18 2012, 08:54 PM)
Yeah pretty much. That is for the Fuze+ though. Not sure about the others.
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Thanks.

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Can not get shite radio channels  doh.gif

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What PMP is that?
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Onda 570


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Hey that's a pretty good player for Full HD video...I'd keep that in mind. brows.gif
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hye. im searching for portable audio player.

i want to pair it with superlux hd661. previously own ipod shuffle but i think i am not satisfied with the sound. i am not an audiophile and dont have wide knowledge in sounds.

however i am more interested to bass and trance music.

my budget is around rm200 only.

please suggest anything. thank you guys
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QUOTE(sirlordwanz @ May 26 2012, 01:57 PM)
hye. im searching for portable audio player.

i want to pair it with superlux hd661. previously own ipod shuffle but i think i  am not satisfied with the sound. i am not an audiophile and dont have wide knowledge in sounds.

however i am more interested to bass and trance music.

my budget is around rm200 only.

please suggest anything. thank you guys
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If you don't mind the small and limited capacity, the new Sony B-series aren't that bad considering your type of music. For RM200 you can get the 4GB. It's got the bass enhancement and although very coloured for a non-audiophile who looks for fun, the player is it I guess. Good battery life too, and navigating through the player is easy.

Or if you are the kinda guy who can stand a bit of UI shortcomings and bland 2 line OLED screen for navigation, and minor bugs here and there, the Cube C30 is perfect. It's got BBE enhancements that actually works in making the music engaging, it actualy is fun to use. It's got 4GB with a microSD slot so you can expand the storage capacity, and the battery life is good to at around 20 hours.

Summary:
Sony - Good UI, better controls, bass enhancement, great battery life.
Cube - Clunky UI, BBE enhancement, expandable storage, good battery life.
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If you don't mind the small and limited capacity, the new Sony B-series aren't that bad considering your type of music. For RM200 you can get the 4GB. It's got the bass enhancement and although very coloured for a non-audiophile who looks for fun, the player is it I guess. Good battery life too, and navigating through the player is easy.

Or if you are the kinda guy who can stand a bit of UI shortcomings and bland 2 line OLED screen for navigation, and minor bugs here and there, the Cube C30 is perfect. It's got BBE enhancements that actually works in making the music engaging, it actualy is fun to use. It's got 4GB with a microSD slot so you can expand the storage capacity, and the battery life is good to at around 20 hours.

Summary:
Sony - Good UI, better controls, bass enhancement, great battery life.
Cube - Clunky UI, BBE enhancement, expandable storage, good battery life.
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fair enough. thank you bro.

before this, i am looking at hippo gumstick but since it is such a rare item now, i am looking at sony B170.

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Any good and cheap mp3 player around the corner ?
Budget RM 150 - RM250, Max RM300
Require an lcd panel to display what music I'm playing smile.gif
Storage at least > 8gb
Many thanks ya !
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Any good and cheap mp3 player around the corner ?
Budget RM 150 - RM250, Max RM300
Require an lcd panel to display what music I'm playing smile.gif
Storage at least > 8gb
Many thanks ya !
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Sansa Fuze+ came to my mind. Search for it here in the Tradezone section. Have to pay a bit more for shipping. Be warned, the touch control can be a bit of a pain to use if you're the type who can't adapt very quick. I myself have a bit of annoyance with the player when I had it.

I can't think of others that have that much storage at that price, that sounds at least decent. The other is the Clip Zip. Much better button controls and has a tiny screen, enough to show you the album art and stuff. A bit small though, about the size of a matchbox.

Another one is the Cube C30, but only 4GB but with expandable memory (uSD slot). Has a tiny two line OLED screen though, and can get very annoyingly illegible under strong light. Controls are alright with a few occasional bugs. The better sounding player IMO than the Fuze+. I won't recommend this unless your priority is sound quality.

Forgot one more, but I don't have any experience with it, and reviews regarding its sound quality is mixed. The Teclast X19HD. A small 8GB player (with no memory expansion) with hardware bass boost. Said to be the most powerful of its class and size. You might wanna look at it. Being a Chinese designed player, be ready for bugs in UI and controls. tongue.gif I just thought I'd inform you about it to open up your options.

If you can find early Creative mp3 players, they're rather good. Simple and plays music well.

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jun 5 2012, 09:48 PM)
Sansa Fuze+ came to my mind. Search for it here in the Tradezone section. Have to pay a bit more for shipping. Be warned, the touch control can be a bit of a pain to use if you're the type who can't adapt very quick. I myself have a bit of annoyance with the player when I had it.

I can't think of others that have that much storage at that price, that sounds at least decent. The other is the Clip Zip. Much better button controls and has a tiny screen, enough to show you the album art and stuff. A bit small though, about the size of a matchbox.

Another one is the Cube C30, but only 4GB but with expandable memory (uSD slot). Has a tiny two line OLED screen though, and can get very annoyingly illegible under strong light. Controls are alright with a few occasional bugs. The better sounding player IMO than the Fuze+. I won't recommend this unless your priority is sound quality.

Forgot one more, but I don't have any experience with it, and reviews regarding its sound quality is mixed. The Teclast X19HD. A small 8GB player (with no memory expansion) with hardware bass boost. Said to be the most powerful of its class and size. You might wanna look at it. Being a Chinese designed player, be ready for bugs in UI and controls.  tongue.gif  I just thought I'd inform you about it to open up your options.

If you can find early Creative mp3 players, they're rather good. Simple and plays music well.
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Thank You for your input, Mate smile.gif
I am considering C-30 before, seen some people complaint on the software issue beofre. Hmm hmm.gif
How bout this ?
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Those look alright. My experience with Creative players are rather good, if rather bland. tongue.gif But that was with a Zen Mozaic. laugh.gif They are generally trouble free.
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jun 5 2012, 08:48 PM)
Forgot one more, but I don't have any experience with it, and reviews regarding its sound quality is mixed. The Teclast X19HD. A small 8GB player (with no memory expansion) with hardware bass boost. Said to be the most powerful of its class and size. You might wanna look at it. Being a Chinese designed player, be ready for bugs in UI and controls.  tongue.gif  I just thought I'd inform you about it to open up your options.
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the x19hd's signature is Fun with a capital F. don't expect neutrality with it. there are bugs now and then but nothing that a off and on won't solve. at least for me.
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the x19hd's signature is Fun with a capital F. don't expect neutrality with it. there are bugs now and then but nothing that a off and on won't solve. at least for me.
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i use the x19 when i'm just traveling across town, short trips and stuff or when i just can't be bothered to bring my ipod + fostex stack.

the other times is then i hit the gym.
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why is zune 30gb is unpopular here? sad.gif
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err...rebranding then sound no good dy? i dont understand
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why is zune 30gb is unpopular here? sad.gif
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They don't sell it here right? Plus it had been discontinued. sad.gif
I liked it very much though.
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QUOTE(aztoiozalan @ Jun 7 2012, 01:13 PM)
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err...rebranding then sound no good dy? i dont understand
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Usually when something gets rebranded, its because its marketing concept and execution failed to draw in sales.
Companies who hold multiple brands under their belts usually 'absorbs' the non-popular one into their more well-to-do brands.
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Hisound audio not bad what smile.gif will get 1 after i have collect enough money smile.gif maybe will launch a bulk buy to share the shipping biggrin.gif
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Using Ipod Classic. A marvelous rubbish bin! tongue.gif

Sold Creative x-fi2 because it was not what i think it was. Apparently the crystallization function in x-fi (in my ears) is the same as HTC smartphones with "beats" audio option enabled. Just tuning the EQ to "powerful", ie the V-shaped curve. Lagipun, I really dislike waiting for the micro-sd card to load everytime I wanna play songs from there.
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Guys, any idea where can i buy the Sansa Clip+ at Shah Alam or nearby? Maybe Subang is ok. Need it by tomorrow so cant do postage
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try to find it at trade zone bro~ i saw some people selling it smile.gif
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guys, any thoughts on the RWA iMod? I know $650 is a lot steep, but is the SQ worth the money?
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Just trying my luck again here. Anybody knows a shop that sells Sansa Clip+ around area Shah Alam or Subang? In about 15 mins i will buy some crappy Mp3 player soon so i scare will regret
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QUOTE(hebe0330 @ Jun 12 2012, 03:35 PM)
guys, any thoughts on the RWA iMod? I know $650 is a lot steep, but is the SQ worth the money?
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right now with the CLAS and Fostex HP-P1, there really isn't a need for the iMod already.
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QUOTE(hongrui @ Jun 12 2012, 07:43 PM)
right now with the CLAS and Fostex HP-P1, there really isn't a need for the iMod already.
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good enough is a very relative term. what is good enough for me might not be good enough for you.

my point is, the iMod basically pulls a direct line out from the DAP's DAC for use with amps, but right now there are already standalone DACs (with chips better than the wolfson) that you can use without the modding your idevice.

me personally i'd rather get the CLAS/Fostex than to mod the idevice. imod only works on the older gens and electronics don't really last the distance now.
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I agree. The iMod only if you plan to connect direct to an amp, thus saving a step in between DAP and amp. With the emergence of devices like CLAS and HP-P1, the iMod isn't necessary anymore, and has been superseded.

Of course, if you prefer your sandwich to be slimmer, then the iMod saves a layer. The only "modding" I'd do to my iPod would be finding a 240GB HDD and install it in.
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On a related note, the CLAS is only compatible with the newer generations of iPod/iPod Touch/iPad/Nanos, so if you're using, say, a Gen 5.5 or earlier iPod the CLAS will do absolutely nothing for you. Which means the iMod may be the only option open to you.

Not sure about the HP-P1, though.

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I see. Thanks for the input guys! learnt quite a bit here smile.gif
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QUOTE(jwcy @ Jun 13 2012, 09:18 AM)
Which means the iMod may be the only option open to you.
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Perhaps you can ask Jaben for assistance, my familiarity with iModding is very general, sorry !
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May I know who can do this iMod?
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You can try Red Wine Audio. although the prices are a little steep. I'm looking to get the iPod from them too. It's hard to hunt for 5.5g ipod video nowadays.
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QUOTE(hebe0330 @ Jun 13 2012, 04:40 PM)
You can try Red Wine Audio. although the prices are a little steep. I'm looking to get the iPod from them too. It's hard to hunt for 5.5g ipod video nowadays.
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I have iPod Video 30gb. Hope to find locally who can do this, less hassle for me. hmm.gif
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I have iPod Video 30gb. Hope to find locally who can do this, less hassle for me.  hmm.gif
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Guys, no new touch screen good audio pmps around? I'm starting to consider getting an iPod touch and LOD out to my amp now.

What happened to the Samsung line of pmps? After the Galaxy Player that line just seems quiet.
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The day Android supports USB audio out, will be the day I dump my iPod.
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The day Android supports USB audio out, will be the day I dump my iPod.
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its just because sync via itunes is too much of a pain. if only the ipods are drag and drop.
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Haha I don't care about the OS, just the sound. But Samsung does have SoundAlive, which I read is apparently good. Like Cowon's JetEffect.
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QUOTE(nabzblitz @ Jun 17 2012, 01:17 AM)
Haha I don't care about the OS, just the sound. But Samsung does have SoundAlive, which I read is apparently good. Like Cowon's JetEffect.
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Added on June 18, 2012, 2:50 amIpod nano or Ipod classic @@
struggling right now @@

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I'd choose the classic for the huge capacity.
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I'd choose the classic for the huge capacity.
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Any recommendations?

Preferred specs-

large quantity (more than 16GB)
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Not exclusively linked to any programs (ie. no iPods)
Videos, expandable memory optional (though welcome)
RM1000 > please.
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QUOTE(takoWALIAO @ Jun 26 2012, 10:54 PM)
Any recommendations?

Preferred specs-

large quantity (more than 16GB)
plays FLAC
plays AAC/M4A
Not exclusively linked to any programs (ie. no iPods)
Videos, expandable memory optional (though welcome)
RM1000 > please.
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There is the 32GB Cowon J3. Plays everything you mentioned, and does not require any special software (or so I understand) to link to your PC and transfer media into. Look for MrJinggles' Cowon Audio sales thread in the tradezone section. Never had one or tried one, but Cowon is famous for sound quality.

There is also the Hifiman line....but very bulky, very old school cassete-player-walkman looking. I had one (HM-601) once. Really really really great sound...but I cannot bring it around without having people wonder from what era I bought that from. laugh.gif
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i want to ask is a rockbox sensa fuze player a good player? i don see alot ppl recommend them
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QUOTE(dennisyeoh @ Jun 29 2012, 03:26 AM)
i want to ask is a rockbox sensa fuze player a good player? i don see alot ppl recommend them
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So far the only Fuze that can be rockboxed is the old one, not the newer Fuze+. The old Fuze has been discontinued for a while, so availability is scarce.
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jun 30 2012, 01:12 PM)
So far the only Fuze that can be rockboxed is the old one, not the newer Fuze+. The old Fuze has been discontinued for a while, so availability is scarce.
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May i know will rockbox increase SQ? biggrin.gif
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So far the only Fuze that can be rockboxed is the old one, not the newer Fuze+. The old Fuze has been discontinued for a while, so availability is scarce.
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i found ppl selling the new older fuze and i go to the rockbox website there, there is a version for fuze+ has been release but is not that stable yet
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im currently using Cube C30 but wanna try other DAP with BBE

Is Cowon iAudio E2 a good choice?
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Just try to demo Hisoundaudio Rocco-P.
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Just try to demo Hisoundaudio Rocco-P.
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Rocco-P manyak expensive

is Sansa Fuze+ or Clip any good?
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jul 1 2012, 01:33 AM)
Rocco-P manyak expensive

is Sansa Fuze+ or Clip any good?
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My experience with cube c30 wasn't good because i am a victim~
it broke down within 1 week...
haiz....but it does produces high quality sound biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Jul 1 2012, 01:44 AM)
My experience with cube c30 wasn't good because i am a victim~
it broke down within 1 week...
haiz....but it does produces high quality sound biggrin.gif
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yup i love the BBE

but i got playback issues and track randomization really sucks......out of the 300 songs, only 150+ can be played rclxub.gif

i miss my Nano days.....although the SQ is just average, it didnt gave me any problem
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jul 1 2012, 01:49 AM)
yup i love the BBE

but i got playback issues and track randomization really sucks......out of the 300 songs, only 150+ can be played rclxub.gif

i miss my Nano days.....although the SQ is just average, it didnt gave me any problem
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Oh actually i have a few question to ask nano user too~
what gen you using~
maybe i wanna get nano~
i heard that 6 gen got problem with the shake to shuffle and the touch screen is not sensitive~
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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Jul 1 2012, 02:10 AM)
Oh actually i have a few question to ask nano user too~
what gen you using~
maybe i wanna get nano~
i heard that 6 gen got problem with the shake to shuffle and the touch screen is not sensitive~
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mine was 2nd gen.....nothing beats feeling of going through the playlist using scroll wheel
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oh den you cant answer my question~
thinking of getting both rocoo-p and nano~ but still in stage to build up a better headphone setup first @@ lol~
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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Jul 1 2012, 02:10 AM)
Oh actually i have a few question to ask nano user too~
what gen you using~
maybe i wanna get nano~
i heard that 6 gen got problem with the shake to shuffle and the touch screen is not sensitive~
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Nano 6th Gen user here... smile.gif

Yup i oso got probs wif my nano when i try shake to shuffle smtime is not reali working... Haih... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Uncle Ron @ Jul 4 2012, 08:30 AM)
Nano 6th Gen user here...  smile.gif 

Yup i oso got probs wif my nano when i try shake to shuffle smtime is not reali working... Haih... sweat.gif
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den i will wait for 7th gen biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Jul 4 2012, 10:27 AM)
thanks  for the information bro biggrin.gif
den i will wait for 7th gen biggrin.gif
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No probs bro ! smile.gif

But for the touch screen is not so sensitive i dun hav any issue wif dat it's working fine to me ! smile.gif
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QUOTE(Uncle Ron @ Jul 4 2012, 10:49 AM)
No probs bro !  smile.gif 

But for the touch screen is not so sensitive i dun hav any issue wif dat it's working fine to me ! smile.gif
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my fund is almost there smile.gif huhu~~
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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Jul 4 2012, 10:57 AM)
Maybe i will purchase the Rocoo-p biggrin.gif
my fund is almost there smile.gif huhu~~
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Rocoo-p oso nice bcoz it's look so classic... thumbup.gif
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Rocoo-p oso nice bcoz it's look so classic...  thumbup.gif
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I am also wanting to buy and upgrade my rig...but I haven't found a part-time job! cry.gif

And I have to find one before I go on to uni next year. sad.gif

Oh, and in case any of you wanting to find a cheap 4GB player with a decent screen, I just auditioned the Sony E463 (the 4GB sibling). At first I thought it was awful with my Atrio. Then I looked at the settings and the karaoke function was on, the EQ was set to Pop, Clear Bass was on. I turned every EQ and enhancement off, and to my surprise it was very very good. It had a balanced sound sig, very slightly towards the bright side, and frankly quite detailed. I was surprised. Now I know what my first player would be. Next after that would be the Cowon iAudio 10 and then probably the RoCoo-P. tongue.gif

The new B-series with every enhancement off however is a disappointment. In fact without the Clear Bass enhancement it sounded worst than the older B-series with the enhancement off as well, very anemic even with the Atrio. I'm guessing they did this to promote the 'Clear Bass' technology, making it appear greater than what it actually is, and 'tricking' consumers into thinking that Clear Bass makes the music so much better. With it turned on however it was very enjoyable, like a Gumstick/C30 but with a bit more weight at the bass.
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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Jul 4 2012, 11:56 AM)
appearance is not in consideration~
but size, quality and price is biggrin.gif
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Haha... dat true oso... quality is most important than appearance thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jul 4 2012, 12:28 PM)
I am also wanting to buy and upgrade my rig...but I haven't found a part-time job!  cry.gif

And I have to find one before I go on to uni next year.  sad.gif

Oh, and in case any of you wanting to find a cheap 4GB player with a decent screen, I just auditioned the Sony E463 (the 4GB sibling). At first I thought it was awful with my Atrio. Then I looked at the settings and the karaoke function was on, the EQ was set to Pop, Clear Bass was on. I turned every EQ and enhancement off, and to my surprise it was very very good. It had a balanced sound sig, very slightly towards the bright side, and frankly quite detailed. I was surprised. Now I know what my first player would be. Next after that would be the Cowon iAudio 10 and then probably the RoCoo-P.  tongue.gif

The new B-series with every enhancement off however is a disappointment. In fact without the Clear Bass enhancement it sounded worst than the older B-series with the enhancement off as well, very anemic even with the Atrio. I'm guessing they did this to promote the 'Clear Bass' technology, making it appear greater than what it actually is, and 'tricking' consumers into thinking that Clear Bass makes the music so much better. With it turned on however it was very enjoyable, like a Gumstick/C30 but with a bit more weight at the bass.
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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Jul 4 2012, 12:35 PM)
i am aiming high to skip upgrading process biggrin.gif so straight rocoo~ but would like to try cowon when i got extra cash tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jul 4 2012, 12:52 PM)
Yeah that would be better...but it's so much fun I can't help myself.  laugh.gif
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If you're aiming high why not try hifiman 801 or ibasso dx100
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If you're aiming high why not try hifiman 801 or ibasso dx100
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With dx100 you got dac, amp, media player all in one box
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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Jul 4 2012, 12:56 PM)
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QUOTE(musica22 @ Jul 4 2012, 01:09 PM)
If you're aiming high why not try hifiman 801 or ibasso dx100
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I've had the HM-601 for a short time. My experience with it is, that I paid a huge sum of money for something that is essentially a dedicated music box. It lets you handle the music but what it does best it presents it to you beautifully. That's the thing, it only presents music, they do quite poorly being practical. The Ibasso has a very big screen, lots of connectivity, lots of codec support, but big size, heavy weight, low music playback time and some reports that the sound isn't up to expectations (although very good) considering the price. Then again, I haven't tried one, but with that price I'd rather have a custom IEM or a decent rig set up at home.

The HM-801, or even the 601 is the same thing. Beautiful music, but the software is like a piece of very thin sheet of glass. You'd have to be very careful or else, you'd have to restart the player, re-store every file you have in the memory card, or re-install the firmware. Let's not talk abut the big size. I had fun with the 601, but I learned the hard way (but very eye-opening) that reliability, the peace of mind of not having such a fragile firmware and one's definition of 'portability' is a must have consideration, when price is nothing.

My best PMP yet is the Teclast T51. Has a balanced mixture of great form, reasonable price, great sound and decent usability. In terms of sound quality alone however, it is still the HM-601. thumbup.gif
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Think I'm gonna let go my Rocco-P and aiming for Rocco Studio-V. Hmmm...
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jul 4 2012, 03:59 PM)
The Ibasso has a very big screen, lots of connectivity, lots of codec support, but big size, heavy weight, low music playback time and some reports that the sound isn't up to expectations (although very good) considering the price. Then again, I haven't tried one, but with that price I'd rather have a custom IEM or a decent rig set up at home.
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size wise thinner than the iPod+clas+amp hmm.gif
never tried any other portable aside from iPods

I'd still settle for home-ridden rig atm

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QUOTE(musica22 @ Jul 4 2012, 05:18 PM)
size wise thinner than the iPod+clas+amp hmm.gif
never tried any other portable aside from iPods

I'd still settle for home-ridden rig atm
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Still pretty thick though, and it's 1mm thicker than the HM-601 I had, and putting it in and taking it out of a jeans pocket is a bit of a hassle. No doubt that the DX100 would be able to handle those hard to drive headphones with the power it can supply. Oh god now I have this sudden urge to try it out....this fantasy about how it will sound....this...this urge to....YOU'VE POISONED ME! cry.gif

This is your trick isn't it? ohmy.gif
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Still pretty thick though, and it's 1mm thicker than the HM-601 I had, and putting it in and taking it out of a jeans pocket is a bit of a hassle. No doubt that the DX100 would be able to handle those hard to drive headphones with the power it can supply. Oh god now I have this sudden urge to try it out....this fantasy about how it will sound....this...this urge to....YOU'VE POISONED ME!  cry.gif

This is your trick isn't it? ohmy.gif
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there's abundance review of the dx100, the software bug is known to many
but still people went for it i wonder why hmm.gif
your siggy, do more with less.. stacked equipment
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QUOTE(musica22 @ Jul 4 2012, 06:56 PM)
there's abundance review of the dx100, the software bug is known to many
but still people went for it i wonder why hmm.gif
your siggy, do more with less.. stacked equipment
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Maybe they thought they could live with the bugs.
Yeah....do more with less. I want to be an automotive engineer, and I believe that to move forward in the industry that is what must be done. tongue.gif That's why I don't like hybrid vehicles (pfft, adding a motor to help another motor dry.gif ). Also can be applied to audio engineering. I believe that makers should try and make as less ports as possible for portable players (come on, adaptors were made for a reason, and possibly a mechanical switch or something to switch between pure lineout and heaphone out while using the same 3.5mm port?), and also develop less drivers that can still fulfill the advantage of multi-drivers (I mean, really, we only have a pair of eardrums and we can still complain about multi-driver IEMs having less this, too much that, etc.). Don't wanna get much into that, it'll be off topic. laugh.gif
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Hello guys! I'm a beginner in this audio business biggrin.gif
Currently looking for a DAP with this requirement

file format: mp3, FLAC(dont even know what it is. most people keep saying FLAC is better than mp3 xD)
expendable:optional
budget: <rm200
optional requirement: heavy/good bass, small size

before this i'm using ipod shuffle. I'm gonna get ATH Pro5Mk2 DJ soon from Jaben biggrin.gif

I've read around about sansa zune, clip+, x19hd and c30 but still cant decide which one fits the requirement as I never get ahold of all 4 models.. Kindly advice please biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(teddbundy @ Jul 5 2012, 09:05 PM)
Hello guys! I'm a beginner in this audio business biggrin.gif
Currently looking for a DAP with this requirement

file format: mp3, FLAC(dont even know what it is. most people keep saying FLAC is better than mp3 xD)
expendable:optional
budget: <rm200
optional requirement: heavy/good bass, small size

before this i'm using ipod shuffle. I'm gonna get ATH Pro5Mk2 DJ soon from Jaben biggrin.gif

I've read around about sansa zune, clip+, x19hd and c30 but still cant decide which one fits the requirement as I never get ahold of all 4 models.. Kindly advice please biggrin.gif
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My experience with c30 is not nice man~ its down with less than 1 week usage~ and the seller tell me the cube are not consistent in their production so i am 1 of the victim~ but it does provide a very good sounding~ other i dunno~ hope this information can help you ;D
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you didnt get refund or something? Hey, it helps a lot! biggrin.gif
most of people around me(not pros, simply end user) suggest me to get zune with rockbox(i dont even know what it is) biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(teddbundy @ Jul 5 2012, 09:20 PM)
you didnt get refund or something?  Hey, it helps a lot! biggrin.gif
most of people around me(not pros, simply end user) suggest me to get zune with rockbox(i dont even know what it is) biggrin.gif
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you can also try clip+ with rockbox also, cheaper than zune, sd expandable.

rockbox is like a open source firmware for the players that are supported, with very extensive functions that can improve the usability and longer battery life cause no bull shit eye candy included, all like plain text
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file format: FLAC
expendable:optional, yes = bonus
budget: max rm300
optional requirement: heavy/good bass, small size(portable)

using ATH Pro 5 MK 2 + Hippo cricri+


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File Format: FLAC
High capacity!!! ( above 100gb)
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File Format: FLAC
High capacity!!! ( above 100gb)
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External said can support up to 64gb, just use Class 4 more than enough
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Jul 11 2012, 04:15 AM)
File Format: FLAC
High capacity!!! ( above 100gb)
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Cowon X7. Available in 120GB and 160GB.
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Cowon X7. Available in 120GB and 160GB.
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where can i try it out before buying lol..
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Jul 13 2012, 01:07 AM)
where can i try it out before buying lol..
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I have no idea, and the X7 isn't exactly high tech either. Resistive touch screen that isn't accurate, read about it being a bit laggy, limited video codec support (no problem if audio is your priority), and some firmware bugs as well. Not to mention only barely pocketable and very heavy (over 200g). A mixed bag of reviews really. Others say its UI is customizable to the point of not being that annoying anymore, not steep of a learning curve, easy to get used to, literally days of playback time, and after calibration the touch screen can be quite accurate, and lag isn't all that bad. Other than that its SQ is highly commended. I think what I would do is, search for a forummer here who is selling it (I know of only one, MrJinggles), ask if they have any X7 in stock, and ask for a test run.

There is also another option, which is the Ipod Classic, but it cannot play FLAC, but ALAC (Apple lossless). I don't know of any other PMP that has that large a capacity.
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jul 13 2012, 07:48 AM)
I have no idea, and the X7 isn't exactly high tech either. Resistive touch screen that isn't accurate, read about it being a bit laggy, limited video codec support (no problem if audio is your priority), and some firmware bugs as well. Not to mention only barely pocketable and very heavy (over 200g). A mixed bag of reviews really. Others say its UI is customizable to the point of not being that annoying anymore, not steep of a learning curve, easy to get used to, literally days of playback time, and after calibration the touch screen can be quite accurate, and lag isn't all that bad. Other than that its SQ is highly commended. I think what I would do is, search for a forummer here who is selling it (I know of only one, MrJinggles), ask if they have any X7 in stock, and ask for a test run.

There is also another option, which is the Ipod Classic, but it cannot play FLAC, but ALAC (Apple lossless). I don't know of any other PMP that has that large a capacity.
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is sansa fuze plus good enough ?? or sansa clip+ better?
i using brainwavz m4 and also ATH-AD700
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Jul 13 2012, 09:04 PM)
yeah.. but heard the classic can be rockbox to play flac
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QUOTE(akping_1 @ Jul 14 2012, 12:33 AM)
is sansa fuze plus good enough ?? or sansa clip+ better?
i using brainwavz m4 and also ATH-AD700
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Sansa Fuze+'s touch pad control takes some time to get used to, and does respond incorrectly sometimes. Battery life however is better for the Fuze+, and the screen lets you display album arts and such and is quite alright under bright light. Why not get something in between like the Clip Zip? Doesn't have better or worse battery life than the Clip+ but with a bigger and better screen to let you see your album art and you won't have to squint your eyes as often. tongue.gif

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If so your problem is solved! Get the Ipod then.  smile.gif
Sansa Fuze+'s touch pad control takes some time to get used to, and does respond incorrectly sometimes. Battery life however is better for the Fuze+, and the screen lets you display album arts and such and is quite alright under bright light. Why not get something in between like the Clip Zip? Doesn't have better or worse battery life than the Clip+ but with a bigger and better screen to let you see your album art and you won't have to squint your eyes as often.  tongue.gif
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Does Clip+ and Clip zip give the same SQ?
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Does Clip+ and Clip zip give the same SQ?
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They should have a similar sound signature. One more thing though, people seems to report it having a slightly lower battery life compared to Clip+, so I may be wrong about the battery life on the Zip.
I've only had the Fuze+, but I hear people say it has the Sansa sound, and the Fuze+ sounded quite good paired with my PL50 and Radius DDM at the time. They all should sound similar to each other, with minor, and depending on the ears and IEM/headphone used, noticeable differences.

So for bigger screen, bigger and more ergonomic form, longer playback time, Fuze+.
For maximum portability, easy navigation and more tactile feel (it has buttons, better IMO than touch pad), the Clip+. Dunno about Zip but Rockbox is available for Clip+.
For displaying album art in a player as small as a Clip+, maximum portability, the Zip.
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guys, can recomend me mp3 player budget around rm350 at most?
i dont mind buying thru ebay or 2nd hand.
im eyeing on cowon iaudio 9 4gb seen at ebay. hows is it compare to others? or maybe a cheaper alternative? i'll just pairing it with ath-sj55 for now.

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QUOTE(zuiichi @ Jul 24 2012, 12:45 AM)
guys, can recomend me mp3 player budget around rm350 at most?
i dont mind buying thru ebay or 2nd hand.
im eyeing on cowon iaudio 9 4gb seen at ebay. hows is it compare to others? or maybe a cheaper alternative? i'll just pairing it with ath-sj55 for now.

thanks.
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you can try the sansa fuze which i am using right now sounded quite good for the price
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QUOTE(zuiichi @ Jul 24 2012, 12:45 AM)
guys, can recomend me mp3 player budget around rm350 at most?
i dont mind buying thru ebay or 2nd hand.
im eyeing on cowon iaudio 9 4gb seen at ebay. hows is it compare to others? or maybe a cheaper alternative? i'll just pairing it with ath-sj55 for now.

thanks.
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sansa clip+ or fuze or cowons
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Which phone has the best SQ output?
Or is it best to get a dedicated player instead?
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Which phone has the best SQ output?
Or is it best to get a dedicated player instead?
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Which phone has the best SQ output?
Or is it best to get a dedicated player instead?
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Samsung Galaxy S3 (wolfson DAC) ?
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I lend my Aiaiai Capital to my friend using her Samsung S3, and I got "WOW" from her. She was using stock player.
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I din really get much of a wow from my s3. I got more wow in my ipod shuffle in fact haha


Added on August 1, 2012, 1:25 pmIn terms of sq, what's the difference between clip zip and Cowon j3?



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haha seeing that u r using zune, please comment hahah
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Hi guys, I am planning to get a mp3 player.

My main concern:
- Budget around RM200 - 300
- Able to play FLAC
- Long battery life
- LCD screen is optional, use it mostly for jogging and output to my car audio
- Built in AMP??

I have Cube C30 in mind but however heard some feedback about the QC is inconsistent. I don't want to pay for the stuff that can use a while then broken.
Any idea about Sansa series? or other brands for recommendation?

Hope to get some kind feedback and recommendation from Audiophile sifu(s) notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Aug 6 2012, 07:53 PM)
Hi guys, I am planning to get a mp3 player.

My main concern:
- Budget around RM200 - 300
- Able to play FLAC
- Long battery life
- LCD screen is optional, use it mostly for jogging and output to my car audio
- Built in AMP??

I have Cube C30 in mind but however heard some feedback about the QC is inconsistent. I don't want to pay for the stuff that can use a while then broken.
Any idea about Sansa series? or other brands for recommendation?

Hope to get some kind feedback and recommendation from Audiophile sifu(s)  notworthy.gif
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sansa is very good out of the box, and is quite durable, small but packs features and support multi format (flac, mp3 etc etc), has decent power to drive headphone/earphones
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Aug 6 2012, 07:59 PM)
sansa is very good out of the box, and is quite durable, small but packs features and support multi format (flac, mp3 etc etc), has decent power to drive headphone/earphones
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Not sure which Sansa to choose.. any recommendation based on the criteria that I mention?

And, anyone used C30 before? any comparison with Sansa?
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jan 23 2012, 05:09 PM)
the last question:
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Aug 7 2012, 10:30 AM)
Not sure which Sansa to choose.. any recommendation based on the criteria that I mention?

And, anyone used C30 before? any comparison with Sansa?
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C30 u need to consider the QC on the product, some including mine died off slowly, system also quite problematic

sansa clip+ is a good choice, or if cant find then sansa fuze, they are better established and with better quality
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QUOTE(cyh03176 @ Feb 4 2012, 07:25 PM)
got a iriver t9 2 months ago and i was enjoying its stock earphone. then i bought shure se215 and i can only hear flat sound from that mp3 player but full blasting bass and stuffs from my samsung galaxy s2. so should i get an amp or a new mp3 instead? i prefer getting a new mp3 instead because i dont like my pocket being full of stuffs, but if an amp is necessary then i will have no choice.

memory: not an issue but bigger is better (i only keep my favourite songs anyway)
format: FLAC or ALAC? or any other better formats? tongue.gif I am new to this
battery life: above 15 hours would be good
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I bet cowan j3 would be a better selection
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cowon j3 battery life is really good actually, the quality is there but function wise a bit cacat.
You have to do a lot of tweaking to get it right which I cant be bother with.
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In another word is quite annoying....
Then....
I tink hifiman 601 will be more suitable
Cowan j3 is fine but it depends on what he prefer the most
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hmmm, searching for an alternative to my roccoo DAP. Sound quality is good (which is the main reason i purchased that) but the interface is soooo frustrating lol.

can anyone suggest a great sounding DAP / PMP that has pretty good interface?
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Hi guys,

I wanted buy a portable speaker for my mom birthday,sound quality is the priority. price range below RM1k smile.gif
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QUOTE(NecroPhilia @ Aug 20 2012, 05:55 PM)
Hi guys,

I wanted buy a portable speaker for my mom birthday,sound quality is the priority. price range below RM1k smile.gif
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Aego m will be your ideal choice thumbup.gif

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Aego m will be your ideal choice thumbup.gif
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portable?
aego m not portable ba
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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Aug 21 2012, 02:24 AM)
portable?
aego m not portable ba
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Never saw the word portable.....

But you can take it as portable too if you can
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Any recommendations for a player that's:

- RM200 or below
- must work well with IEMs like Shure
- plays mp3 and audiobooks
- screen is optional since I'm not interested in watching videos with it
- has at least 2GB storage and above

Thanks!

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In that case you can take sony mp3...they are quite budget....
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Hi all of my friends, I have a question to ask, is the Sansa Fuze(not Fuze+) worth buying? Will be pairing it with my Govibe MBA MK2 and PFE022. I also might get a LOD in future and pair it with a better amp. Thanks in advance. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Iqbal_kakashi @ Aug 25 2012, 09:00 PM)
Hi all of my friends, I have a question to ask, is the Sansa Fuze(not Fuze+) worth buying? Will be pairing it with my Govibe MBA MK2 and PFE022. I also might get a LOD in future and pair it with a better amp. Thanks in advance. smile.gif
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For transport i think it is worth enough. And Sansa Fuze itself is worth buying. Sansa Fuze is still on my list ever. BTW LOD for sansa is custom made right?

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QUOTE(LanDi @ Aug 26 2012, 08:30 PM)
For transport i think it is worth enough. And Sansa Fuze itself is worth buying. Sansa Fuze is still on my list ever. BTW LOD for sansa is custom made right?
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Yup, custom made and can be quite expensive too. But according to clieos, the HO is clean, so can be used with amps. hmm.gif
I have been using a 2nd gen ipod, will it beat the ipod sq? Ipod HO is not that good.
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QUOTE(Iqbal_kakashi @ Aug 26 2012, 09:37 PM)
Yup, custom made and can be quite expensive too. But according to clieos, the HO is clean, so can be used with amps.  hmm.gif
I have been using a 2nd gen ipod, will it beat the ipod sq? Ipod HO is not that good.
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QUOTE(LanDi @ Aug 26 2012, 08:30 PM)
For transport i think it is worth enough. And Sansa Fuze itself is worth buying. Sansa Fuze is still on my list ever. BTW LOD for sansa is custom made right?
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QUOTE(Iqbal_kakashi @ Aug 26 2012, 09:37 PM)
Yup, custom made and can be quite expensive too. But according to clieos, the HO is clean, so can be used with amps.  hmm.gif
I have been using a 2nd gen ipod, will it beat the ipod sq? Ipod HO is not that good.
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there is a lod for sell for the sansa fuze i order one from ebay
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QUOTE(dennisyeoh @ Aug 27 2012, 12:44 AM)
there is a lod for sell for the sansa fuze i order one from ebay
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I think I'll pull the trigger today. Gonna get a Fuze V1. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Iqbal_kakashi @ Aug 27 2012, 07:37 AM)
I think I'll pull the trigger today. Gonna get a Fuze V1.  smile.gif
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you wont go wrong biggrin.gif biggrin.gif the sansa will be even better after rockbox

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QUOTE(dennisyeoh @ Aug 27 2012, 04:33 PM)
you wont go wrong  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  the sansa will be even better after rockbox
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I really hope so. biggrin.gif My ipod can't satisfy me already.
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QUOTE(Iqbal_kakashi @ Aug 27 2012, 05:56 PM)
I really hope so. biggrin.gif My ipod can't satisfy me already.
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QUOTE(LanDi @ Aug 27 2012, 08:28 PM)
What makes you not happy with ipod?
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The soundstage, the mids, the bass, and no expendable memory. And I want to try out the Sansa Line, if it's good, will get a LOD and make it my primary portable setup till I upgrade to something better.
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QUOTE(Iqbal_kakashi @ Aug 27 2012, 09:22 PM)
The soundstage, the mids, the bass, and no expendable memory. And I want to try out the Sansa Line, if it's good, will get a LOD and make it my primary portable setup till I upgrade to something better.
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Portable DAC+AMP+ LOD wouldnt make you happy or the IPOD itself?
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QUOTE(LanDi @ Aug 27 2012, 11:53 PM)
Portable DAC+AMP+ LOD wouldnt make you happy or the IPOD itself?
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What do you mean by portable dac+amp? I don't own one. smile.gif I'm not happy with the ipod, and the CLAS is definitely out of my budget.

Edit: I forgot about my Govibe MBA MK2.It can't be used with LOD though.

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QUOTE(Iqbal_kakashi @ Aug 28 2012, 09:49 AM)
What do you mean by portable dac+amp? I don't own one. smile.gif I'm not happy with the ipod, and the CLAS is definitely out of my budget.
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Ouchh.. thats hurt for you. But Im personally agreed at least by myself that you are one of the "kaki" audiophile here in LYN and you should know how to mix up any affordable DAC / AMP with your Ipod.
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QUOTE(LanDi @ Aug 28 2012, 09:56 AM)
Ouchh.. thats hurt for you. But Im personally agreed at least by myself that you are one of the "kaki" audiophile here in LYN and you should know how to mix up any affordable DAC / AMP with your Ipod.
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Hmmm. A DAC won't really work except the CLAS/HP-P1/HRT iStreamer/or if you are using camera connection kit(which only works with some kind of idevices). Adding an amp will solve the problem of sq, but not the problem of space. Furthermore, I'll definitely upgrade my player in a year or two, I'll just give the Fuze a try(I never even held one in my hand).
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QUOTE(Iqbal_kakashi @ Aug 28 2012, 10:03 AM)
Hmmm. A DAC won't really work except the CLAS/HP-P1/HRT iStreamer/or if you are using camera connection kit(which only works with some kind of idevices). Adding an amp will solve the problem of sq, but not the problem of space. Furthermore, I'll definitely upgrade my player in a year or two, I'll just give the Fuze a try(I never even held one in my hand).
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if you going to use LOD you going to need a amp you know that right?
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QUOTE(dennisyeoh @ Aug 28 2012, 03:18 PM)
if you going to use LOD you going to need a amp you know that right?
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Guys, sansa clip+ or clipzip??
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QUOTE(messy @ Sep 2 2012, 02:06 PM)
Guys, sansa clip+ or clipzip??
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 2 2012, 04:11 PM)
clip+
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Hi im thinking of getting a good player. Budget below 950.
I was thinking of getting an ipod but i hate apple cause of apple sued samsung because of having curved edge design on the galaxy's. I previously had a sony nwz b133f.
I prefer have display and superb audio quality. And also support a lot of audio formats. Also need to have flac and other lossless file support.
Thanks. biggrin.gif

Im a samsung galaxy fanboy tongue.gif

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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Sep 5 2012, 12:19 PM)
Hi im thinking of getting a good player. Budget below 950.
I was thinking of getting an ipod but i hate apple cause of apple sued samsung because of having curved edge design on the galaxy's. I previously had a sony nwz b133f.
I prefer have display and superb audio quality. And also support a lot of audio formats. Also need to have flac and other lossless file support.
Thanks. biggrin.gif

Im a samsung galaxy fanboy tongue.gif
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jan 23 2012, 05:09 PM)
the last question:
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hey all, i've been doing some research on daps but i seem to be fixating on the cowon x9 (but i was also informed theyre releasing a new product by end of this year and another early next) :s as such, i thot id broaden tt field and option by asking what other recommendations are there. (do a proper research before investing one time good good. hurhur)

1) space. has to have alot of space. its okay if its little space but expandable by memory cards. (have appx 70gb(still growing) of audio to go in. yes i have considered filtering just the songs i hear more frequently out, no, it doesnt work. because i have erratic music preference moods. one moment i feel like jazz the next i feel like trance and then oldies and then to goth metal and then... u get the gist. its waaaay waaaay too troublesome to keep filtering.

2) be able to playback a wide range of audio formats.

3) UI preferrably features easy scroll. so i dont have to press the next or down button a gazillion times before getting to the song im looking for.

4) if possible, has a user customisable equalizer. problem i find with the cowon is the bass tends to roll off and overall audio sounds colored. kinda like taking a photo and then processed through photoshop such that original colors and details are all overly made up -.- but is it mostly like that? haven had the chance to try much other players.

5) looks good + good battery life. heheh

6) budget: < sgd$800 (okay to go over alittle)

7) where can i try/get said player.

Thank u all in advance!!

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Colorfly??
Any user here can make a review on that product??
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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Sep 5 2012, 12:19 PM)
Hi im thinking of getting a good player. Budget below 950.
I was thinking of getting an ipod but i hate apple cause of apple sued samsung because of having curved edge design on the galaxy's. I previously had a sony nwz b133f.
I prefer have display and superb audio quality. And also support a lot of audio formats. Also need to have flac and other lossless file support.
Thanks. biggrin.gif

Im a samsung galaxy fanboy tongue.gif
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Hi there, would you mind meeting up for RoCoo P audition? biggrin.gif
I am getting my Studio V very soon so I may bring it along smile.gif
Anyone here wants to meet up?
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QUOTE(Audiophile007 @ Sep 11 2012, 07:40 PM)
Hi there, would you mind meeting up for RoCoo P audition?  biggrin.gif
I am getting my Studio V very soon so I may bring it along smile.gif
Anyone here wants to meet up?
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i havent bought the RoCoo P yet.  smile.gif
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How does.studio.v compared with rocoo ba....lolx....
The range of price ia quite big.....quite curious
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guys.,
is new ipod nano worth to buy?
the price is 149 usd..
is there any portable media player around this price?

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Cowan brand...rocoo a.....sansa....and much more.....
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hey i need some suggestions~~
player below rm 300, can play flac
sound quality is my priority, screen display is not that important
thanks!
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hey i need some suggestions~~
player below rm 300, can play flac
sound quality is my priority, screen display is not that important
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Sansa Clip+ or Sansa Fuze.
FLAC support and is a favorite for newcomers and those who love portability. Good quality and considered cheap for the sound quality.

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hey peeps,

I am new in this. I just wanna ask whether the media players makes alot of difference in music quality?

I thought the music quality is only determined by the kbps of the music file itself?

If so, are media players such as sony walkman series or ipod considered good?

thanks!
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I need some reccommendation!

Price range : 1~2K
I don't need FLAC, but if it supports, why not? tongue.gif
Headphones that I'll be running are MS1i and ESW9. Might add an amp later on.
Need large storage, 40GB and above. I like to have all of my songs in one place.
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Studio.v.....rocoo ba.....hifiman hm 801
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looking for new portable player...
support WAV and FLAC
Mostly for IEM (Beyer XP3/AT CKM50/Nu NE-700)
Budget around RM5XX, max RM7XX
prefer with screen

thx...

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QUOTE(AsTheCreatorZ @ Oct 14 2012, 10:51 PM)
looking for new portable player...
support WAV and FLAC
Mostly for IEM (Beyer XP3/AT CKM50/Nu NE-700)
Budget around RM5XX, max RM7XX
prefer with screen

thx...
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If no screen then go for hippo biscuit
For screen rocoo p....hifiman 601....zune....c30...
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QUOTE(nicholostan @ Oct 14 2012, 11:26 PM)
If no screen then go for hippo biscuit
For screen rocoo p....hifiman 601....zune....c30...
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between rocco p/ studio-v/hifiman 601... which one good in term of SQ? and any of this support TRRS jack?
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studio v ... especially the anniversary edition...85 hours play time
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i currently own a sony walkman nwz-s series player but the sounds it produced is disappointing. Maybe because i do not know the best eq settings.When i use my earphone on my sis's samsung galaxy mini 2, the sounds are much much better than my sony walkman. Please recommend me a good portable music player preferably touchscreen ones but if not is also ok. my budget max is rm1000. please include the price and place to buy too.
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QUOTE(rafe001 @ Nov 6 2012, 05:45 PM)
i currently own a sony walkman nwz-s series player but the sounds it produced is disappointing. Maybe because i do not know the best eq settings.When i use my earphone on my sis's samsung galaxy mini 2, the sounds are much much better than my sony walkman. Please recommend me a good portable music player preferably touchscreen ones but if not is also ok. my budget max is rm1000. please include the price and place to buy too.
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Sony is basically for basshead users...so I guess u r not a basshead afterall....
Since you're quite new in this category and using an earphone...I guess hippo biscuit will be a good choice...warning ...this player has no screen and you can get it from jaben network in ss15 or contact walabies in LYN .....is not you can use hisoundaudio rocoo p from Audiophile007 in LYN too....!!....not much choices over here since you are using an earphone...if you are a headphone user...maybe hifiman 601 will be a great player to you and it is available in jaben too....!!
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QUOTE(rafe001 @ Nov 6 2012, 05:45 PM)
i currently own a sony walkman nwz-s series player but the sounds it produced is disappointing. Maybe because i do not know the best eq settings.When i use my earphone on my sis's samsung galaxy mini 2, the sounds are much much better than my sony walkman. Please recommend me a good portable music player preferably touchscreen ones but if not is also ok. my budget max is rm1000. please include the price and place to buy too.
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what earphone you are using first? sansa fuze is not bad
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@dennisyeoh:
just normal blackberry earphones but sound nice. might check sanza fuze later. thx for the suggestion.

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QUOTE(shaohui @ Sep 13 2012, 11:39 PM)
hey peeps,

I am new in this. I just wanna ask whether the media players makes alot of difference in music quality?

I thought the music quality is only determined by the kbps of the music file itself?

If so, are media players such as sony walkman series or ipod considered good?

thanks!
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Kbps is a very very general guideline. Normally music quality cannot just be determined by the specs like file format (mp3/flac/aac) or bitrate (1411kbps) or bit depth (16 bits/24 bits). Those are general indication, but mainly the most important thing is the mastering. Meaning how good the song is recorded and processed from the studio.

If you're going to casually listen to songs, like on the train, in the bus, walking, exercising, then there's no need to emphasize on sound quality as your brain doesn't really focus on the song. But if you are going to listen to good songs in a quiet environment and a relaxed mood, then maybe you can get a better quality player. But truth is, most players sound almost the same in a certain price range. Not really night and day difference.

Sony is famous for producing cheap quality players. Ipod sound quality is very good also
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looking for something that has good battery life, large storage space 50-100gb, average to good sound quality, screen is a bonus but must at least display track,artist and album with seeking. If possible not too big sized either. Price max RM1K.

Looking for cheaper alternative than the ipod classic

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anything that has
1. display screen
2. at least 8gb of space
3. does not give in when dumped into the washing machine (lol not so important)

my father's sony A series MP3 just got into the washing machine and it seems that the battery has given up
he wants to get a new one from Sony but i think its too expensive considering hes so clumsy sometimes, any recommendations ?
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Need some recommendations here~

Price: less than rm350
Storage: 8gb (suffice for me)
Usage: just listening to music while lying down
Other requirement: I wanted something small and easy to carry around like the ipod nano 6th generation. Preferable that it can play music nicely(produce nice sounding unlike those sub rm50 mp3 players sweat.gif )

Thanks smile.gif

Ps: not sure if this will be relevant, but I'm currently using ATH AD700 so its safe to say I'm not much a basshead

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Newbie here~~~ ^^
Im using iphone 4 and ipod touch 2nd generation to listen to music........ After some time i found out that i need more "quality"....
When usin ex310sl + iphone, i found that d vocal is not so clear despite the bass is gud; pairing with ue600 makes me feel thirsty for the bass.... It's gud if i can combine the two earphone..... rolleyes.gif
So im lookin for a device tat can give me satisfaction..

capacity: more than 8gb, the more the better
Price: below RM350
Uses: Listening music at night before sleep
Current earphone using: sony ex310sl , ultimate ears ue600
Type of music: Pop, classical, K-pop

Ps: i plan to buy hippo biscuit. Is this really suites me n worth buying?
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Hi..
Anyone using the Colorfly C3? Any comment for the media player?
I'm using the FAD Adagio III with GoVibe Minibox. I mostly listen on OST, orchestra and others general hits songs.
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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Nov 18 2012, 11:21 PM)
anything that has
1. display screen
2. at least 8gb of space
3. does not give in when dumped into the washing machine (lol not so important)

my father's sony A series MP3 just got into the washing machine and it seems that the battery has given up
he wants to get a new one from Sony but i think its too expensive considering hes so clumsy sometimes, any recommendations ?
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QUOTE(lazycat29 @ Nov 19 2012, 03:22 AM)
Need some recommendations here~

Price: less than rm350
Storage: 8gb (suffice for me)
Usage: just listening to music while lying down
Other requirement: I wanted something small and easy to carry around like the ipod nano 6th generation. Preferable that it can play music nicely(produce nice sounding unlike those sub rm50 mp3 players sweat.gif )

Thanks smile.gif

Ps: not sure if this will be relevant, but I'm currently using ATH AD700 so its safe to say I'm not much a basshead
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QUOTE(eerrii93 @ Nov 19 2012, 05:51 PM)
Newbie here~~~ ^^
Im using iphone 4 and ipod touch 2nd generation to listen to music........ After some time i found out that i need more "quality"....
When usin ex310sl + iphone, i found that d vocal is not so clear despite the bass is gud; pairing with ue600 makes me feel thirsty for the bass.... It's gud if i can combine the two earphone..... rolleyes.gif
So im lookin for a device tat can give me satisfaction..

capacity: more than 8gb, the more the better
Price: below RM350
Uses: Listening music at night before sleep
Current earphone using: sony ex310sl , ultimate ears ue600
Type of music: Pop, classical, K-pop

Ps: i plan to buy hippo biscuit. Is this really suites me n worth buying?
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1. sansa clip+ or equivalent sansa series
2. cowon for the slightly higher priced
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plz recommend

has a screen
supports flac,alac,ape,wav,mp3
bigger than 16gb internal memory
budget below rm900
good battery life and sound quality


size doesnt matter as long its portable

cheaper alternative compared to ipod classic
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between sony, philips, creative & transcend, which one has better SQ among all for a rm200 and below player.
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QUOTE(vexus @ Nov 27 2012, 11:25 PM)
between sony, philips, creative & transcend, which one has better SQ among all for a rm200 and below player.
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sansa clip+ got quite a lot rave review for the price
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Hi, need advice. Is it a wise move to upgrade my ipod to HM601 or HM602. Does it makes a lot of different? Any other option? It will pair with my UE tri.fi 10.

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Dear sifus, I'm really tempted to get the Sansa Clip+ 4G but I saw one which is refurbished being sold at newegg.com. Can someone please explain to me what does it mean by refurbished set (Sansa Clip+)? Is it still considered new or whats the difference with one without refurbished?
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Hi guys,

Budget : 400++(can cash in extra if worth it)
Using : previously Sony NWZ-B135FBLK 2GB
Listens to - Pop, Dance, Club, R&B, Electro
Formats - Mp3 mostly, FLAC in future??
Size - 8GB or bigger

Usage : before sleeping, in office, in car, +++

Extra Requirement : i am a bass freak, but at the same time would like to have best sound quality.

Currently surveyed Sony products, heard good comments about Cube C30, X19HD but worried about the battery life, product quality and many more. So, any recommendation?TQ
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Hello guys, need some opinion and suggestion from you all,

Budget : >200 (can cash in extra if worth it)
Using : previously Ipod 2nd Gen
Listens to - Pop, Hip Hop, Hardrock,
Formats - Mp3 mostly,
Size - 8GB or bigger

I enjoy music details and bass too. I am pairing my source with soundmagic PL50. From computer SQ is way much better than my Ipod. I also enjoy playing games on the Ipod and listening to some tunes while taking work break.

So my question is is it worth it to pair the Ipod with Fiio amp (maybe e6) so the SQ is comparable to when source is a computer, or I am better off with a dedicated msic player say maybecube m30?


Recommendation would be much appreciated. Thank you
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QUOTE(mareno77 @ Dec 15 2012, 10:55 PM)
Hello guys, need some opinion and suggestion from you all,

Budget : >200 (can cash in extra if worth it)
Using : previously Ipod 2nd Gen
Listens to - Pop, Hip Hop, Hardrock,
Formats - Mp3 mostly,
Size - 8GB or bigger

I enjoy music details and bass too. I am pairing my source with soundmagic PL50.  From computer SQ is way much better than my Ipod. I also enjoy playing games on the Ipod and listening to some tunes while taking work break.

So my question is is it worth it to pair the Ipod with Fiio amp (maybe e6) so the SQ is comparable to when source is a computer, or I am better off with a dedicated msic player say maybecube m30?
Recommendation would be much appreciated.  Thank you
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if u like bass i think u should give x19hd a try. Cube C30 is more neutral and into detail.


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QUOTE(AmmoShaf @ Dec 7 2012, 12:30 PM)
Hi guys,

Budget : 400++(can cash in extra if worth it)
Using : previously Sony NWZ-B135FBLK 2GB
Listens to - Pop, Dance, Club, R&B, Electro
Formats - Mp3 mostly, FLAC in future??
Size - 8GB or bigger

Usage : before sleeping, in office, in car, +++

Extra Requirement : i am a bass freak, but at the same time would like to have best sound quality.

Currently surveyed Sony products, heard good comments about Cube C30, X19HD but worried about the battery life, product quality and many more. So, any recommendation?TQ
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bass freak would prefer x19hd, long battery life.

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can get this pre-order price from u? tongue.gif
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hmm only rm 60 extra not bad... The closing date for the preorder is on the 20th sigh... if only X3 is out soon then i wont have this headache... X3 have to wait maybe until april
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hmm only rm 60 extra not bad... The closing date for the preorder is on the 20th sigh... if only X3 is out soon then i wont have this headache... X3 have to wait maybe until april
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E1, any thoughts on bringing a cheaper player? Like Teclast X30 or the soon the be out X30SE. I am not familiar with teclast other offering or about their sq.
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I need help with a simple question:

sansa clip+ vs poweramp SGS II

which is better in SQ? is it significant? - paired with ATH-SJ55

ADDED: i already have poweramp SGS II, im wondering if i shud buy sansa clip+. I will if it will upgrade the SQ significantly plus, it will help to increase battery life of my SGS II.
but if its not significant, maybe i just go buy powerbank for now.

what do u guys think?

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To replace my iPod Shuffle. Preferably with control interface which allows you to play via playlists/folders.
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Anyone knows where can I find Cowon Mp4 players in Malaysia? Is really looking forward to buying a high-end below 1k player. Hopefully rm500 left right.

FLAC-able.
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Hi Sifus, would C30, Biscuit and Sansa line DAP considered as an upgrade to my sony mp4

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There are plenty of audiophile DAP such as Colorfly C3, HiSound Nova N1 etc...look beyond the box (Sony, apple, creative)
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Anyone knows where can I find Cowon Mp4 players in Malaysia? Is really looking forward to buying a high-end below 1k player. Hopefully rm500 left right.

FLAC-able.
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Btw, if possible, I don't want to line out to external amp liao. very bulky and high cost. thinking of getting a super portable player. Not sure go which way. HM801, or C4, or DX100, or i dono... Primary mission: Drive IEM or portable headphones. Full size reserved to home desktop.
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Jan 14 2013, 03:37 PM)
brader, u really... haha. yaya, cheap la. I still think 1k is very much, until i saw the news release of HM901  shocking.gif

Btw, if possible, I don't want to line out to external amp liao. very bulky and high cost. thinking of getting a super portable player. Not sure go which way. HM801, or C4, or DX100, or i dono... Primary mission: Drive IEM or portable headphones. Full size reserved to home desktop.
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hellfire8888 brader, if u got say earlier, I might jump ship liao...

E1 - AKG Got people demo it already? How's the impression?
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phillip88 the Nova N3 might suit your needs. Initially I look at C4 and HM-601/801 as well but the battery life is......

I will get a demo unit in soon but the earliest release date for N3 is 20th..so be patient...
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hellfire8888 brader, if u got say earlier, I might jump ship liao...

E1 - AKG Got people demo it already? How's the impression?
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Any mp3 player Below RM300 can give the best sound quality at its price point? LCD navigation is preferable.

Will be using it with Dunu Tridents and MS1i.

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Guys think this is legit? http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r...=&cm_id=&pm_id=

RM259 for the nova 1 from taobao trusted seller not sure if it comes with earphones or not
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My Sony A series A84x series just died. Damn. I need a recommendation for a new MP4 as I'm not really fond with the new F series sony is pushing. Anything around Rm 500-600 would be great. Cheers.
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Hi everyone, i'm looking for an mp3 player with the capability of changing batteries (AA / AAA) and expandable memory. Any idea what brand and where can i find one locally in KL ?

=not necessary big brands
=interchangeable batteries
=expandable memory

=monochrome is more than enough
=budget of RM 150~200 max
=considered previous gen type of players

Been through sandisk, trancend, sony, creative but just can't find what i want.
I'm just not really fond of build-in battery in modern music players.
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QUOTE(LWRNCH6550 @ Jan 21 2013, 10:13 AM)
Hi everyone, i'm looking for an mp3 player with the capability of changing batteries (AA / AAA) and expandable memory. Any idea what brand and where can i find one locally in KL ?

=not necessary big brands
=interchangeable batteries
=expandable memory

=monochrome is more than enough
=budget of RM 150~200 max
=considered previous gen type of players

Been through sandisk, trancend, sony, creative but just can't find what i want.
I'm just not really fond of build-in battery in modern music players.
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Can i ask how is colorfly c3 compared to nova 1?

If their performance gap is really huge I would get the nova 1 from the link i posted earlier can anyone read if any negative reviews?

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Can i ask how is colorfly c3 compared to nova 1?

If their performance gap is really huge I would get the nova 1 from the link i posted earlier can anyone read if any negative reviews?
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Didn't have C3 but just got my Nova N1. Pair with FAD Adagio II. Well I have nothing to compare as previously using iPhone as music player. Not yet try in details yet. I not yet update the firmware, for now this firmware does give me some problem. Build quality wise, overall I have no complain with it. metal finishing and light. The UI is easy to use. Hiss sound quite low too.

For the price, I think is good enough.
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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Jan 22 2013, 03:23 PM)
Didn't have C3 but just got my Nova N1. Pair with FAD Adagio II. Well I have nothing to compare as previously using iPhone as music player. Not yet try in details yet. I not yet update the firmware, for now this firmware does give me some problem. Build quality wise, overall I have no complain with it. metal finishing and light. The UI is easy to use. Hiss sound quite low too.

For the price, I think is good enough.
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aww, that sucks. coz i used to own some old mp3 player that uses single AAA. I get to change the batteries whenever its low on the go without worry about recharging. Well looks like i have to jump in the current built-in battery wagon then.
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QUOTE(LWRNCH6550 @ Jan 24 2013, 10:45 AM)
aww, that sucks. coz i used to own some old mp3 player that uses single AAA. I get to change the batteries whenever its low on the go without worry about recharging. Well looks like i have to jump in the current built-in battery wagon then.
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hye guys. currently i`m using sgs2 + akg k500.
i drains the battery a lot and i need my phone all the time.

i'm thinking of getting a huge capacity music player so i can get all of my music in there.

other than ipod classic 160gb, any other choices? i prefer small sized players not bigger than ipod classic .


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Hie i am currently using my iphone 3gs

I am going to buy 1 headphone from the list below

Beyerdynamic dtx 501p
Klipsch image one (ii)
Akg k450/451
Bose ae2/oe2

So i will need some help to get some players.

I have in mind some basic B series Sony mp3 player
Is it ok??.... dont have big budget for it but i guess around RM200 is fine

The Beyerdynamic goes for 3++ and and the AKG 4++ and the Klipsch 600 and Bose 600.

Should i go for the cheapest earphone on the list and get a better player? or should i go for the Klipsch or Bose and get the SONY Bseries player.

or better not just stick with my 3Gs?

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Hello, Need a comparison help:
Is Sansa Clip Zip alone
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Ipod Nano 4th Gen ->LOD->Fiio E11 ?
Or can i amp the Clip Zip as well ?
Im looking in terms of sound quality and power to drive the phones.
Will be playing FLAC/ALAC files.
Using ATH-M30 (65ohm).
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plz recommend me mp3 player with manual EQ. i already have zune but i'm searching for something advance.
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Hi, just a quick question, do anyone know where can I buy a Line Out Dock (LOD) for Sony A series Walkman? prefer with the one that has a 3.5mm female out so that I can use my custom cable to connect to external amp, anyone knows where can I get it around KL/Selangor? or can get it from Jaben?
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thanks. bought sansa clip zip.  icon_idea.gif
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Hmm.. is it that nice? I was considering this and Colorfly C3... in the end i got Colorfly C3..hehe smile.gif
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erm...is there anybody know the creative zen x-fi3 player, can use on usb dac or not? n what u guys think of the player?
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Hmm.. is it that nice? I was considering this and Colorfly C3... in the end i got Colorfly C3..hehe smile.gif
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QUOTE(MaUi^ @ Feb 12 2013, 04:12 AM)
Hi, just a quick question, do anyone know where can I buy a Line Out Dock (LOD) for Sony A series Walkman? prefer with the one that has a 3.5mm female out so that I can use my custom cable to connect to external amp, anyone knows where can I get it around KL/Selangor? or can get it from Jaben?
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new f series???

jaben don't have it, alo no longer makes it which they sold last time

they have the fiio l5 though

fly it in from ebay
stores.ebay.com.my/ecbuyonline2008/_i.html?_nkw=sony&submit=Search&_sid=781928146

got mine the same way too, only have to wait 3 weeks
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Comparing with an ipod nano 3rd... I'd say sound quality is better. I paired it directly with a fiio e11 and it satisfies me so far. The eq kinda sucks to me..but i usually dont use eq so its fine. Touch buttons not very responsive but it still works. Build is really nice.. Has some weight to it, feels really solid.
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hi i want to know where can i buy sandisk sansa clip zip plus in petaling jaya?i'm currently using Grado SR80i headphones..also if got others good mp3 players beside sansa please recommended me..

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hello,im looking for new mp3 player ..
one that easily connect by usb
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can suggest me one ?
and also a headphone to pair with this mp3
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i just got cowon i10 and etymotic hf5. great pair, a lot better than zune hd.
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anyone knows which sound quality is better for mp3 players? Sony NW-S series or Ipod Nano 7th gen?
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anyone knows which sound quality is better for mp3 players? Sony NW-S series or Ipod Nano 7th gen?
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QUOTE(holoman @ Mar 23 2013, 05:57 PM)
hello,im looking for new mp3 player ..
one that easily connect by usb
and drag and drop music .. not like ipod ..
can suggest me one ?
and also a headphone to pair with this mp3
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 12 2013, 12:31 AM)
anyone knows which sound quality is better for mp3 players? Sony NW-S series or Ipod Nano 7th gen?
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Many factors beside SQ. Basically, Sony mp3 player allows more DSP features like bass boost, etc.
Ipod Nano is on-the-go player. Doesn't really sacrifice SQ.

However, if you wanna play "Line-Out" feature from mp3 player to amp (by passing internal amplifier of the mp3 player), sorry, latest gen ipod nano does not offer it anymore. Sony mp3 still can.
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Apr 12 2013, 04:09 PM)
Please state price. And your prior mp3 player (if any) so that we would not recommend "downgraded" mp3  icon_idea.gif
Many factors beside SQ. Basically, Sony mp3 player allows more DSP features like bass boost, etc.
Ipod Nano is on-the-go player. Doesn't really sacrifice SQ.

However, if you wanna play "Line-Out" feature from mp3 player to amp (by passing internal amplifier of the mp3 player), sorry, latest gen ipod nano does not offer it anymore. Sony mp3 still can.
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Does that mean Sony sacrifice SQ for the EQ? I don't really play with EQ settings for every song, prefer if the sound is closest to lossless quality? I'm not really an audiophile, so what i'm saying might not make sense >_<
but from what i've read on the net, reviews lean more towards Sony for sound quality over ipod?
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 12 2013, 07:14 PM)
Does that mean Sony sacrifice SQ for the EQ? I don't really play with EQ settings for every song, prefer if the sound is closest to lossless quality? I'm not really an audiophile, so what i'm saying might not make sense >_<
but from what i've read on the net, reviews lean more towards Sony for sound quality over ipod?
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I totally understand your fear of not "listening" to everything, fearing that what you got is not true to the music.

Well, lemme give you some encouragement by saying, there is no IDEAL sound for everyone. While most people I know prefers neutral sound, there are people who prefer more bass, or more treble (brighter, feels like more detail), or more anything. It's totally up to you to say which one you like, and nobody has the right to say you are wrong. Heck, even my brother like +5 bass -5 treble the way he likes his Beats mad.gif LOL

Anyway, i checked your Sony S Series, and Sony does offer several DSP which may enhance your listening experience if you're using less than stellar headphones/earphones. Well, for starters, you have Clear Stereo, Clear Bass, and DSEE DSPs to make your songs more pleasure to listen. Compared to Apple IPods, it has fixed EQ choices, which may or may not be your cup of tea.

Well, if you're the kind of person who prefers to leave the settings to default, actually you can leave those Sony DSPs "ON" and still able to rock most of your songs, if not all, and if you don't really nitpicking. Besides, the latest Ipod Nano has lost its unique feature, the Line-Out port, which most audiophiles would love to have in order to let their external amplifiers in total control of the music player. Sony still has it, however, I can't tell you if it's true Line-Out or otherwise as I don't have that kind of data with me currently.

Anyway, it all comes down to personal preferences. If for me, maybe I save up for iPod Classic (which is going to be discontinued soon), or going for Sony F-Series which can be found in the garage sales (Sony Stores have them too, albeit more expensive by Rm400+/-)
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I totally understand your fear of not "listening" to everything, fearing that what you got is not true to the music.

Well, lemme give you some encouragement by saying, there is no IDEAL sound for everyone. While most people I know prefers neutral sound, there are people who prefer more bass, or more treble (brighter, feels like more detail), or more anything. It's totally up to you to say which one you like, and nobody has the right to say you are wrong. Heck, even my brother like +5 bass -5 treble the way he likes his Beats  mad.gif  LOL

Anyway, i checked your Sony S Series, and Sony does offer several DSP which may enhance your listening experience if you're using less than stellar headphones/earphones. Well, for starters, you have Clear Stereo, Clear Bass, and DSEE DSPs to make your songs more pleasure to listen. Compared to Apple IPods, it has fixed EQ choices, which may or may not be your cup of tea.

Well, if you're the kind of person who prefers to leave the settings to default, actually you can leave those Sony DSPs "ON" and still able to rock most of your songs, if not all, and if you don't really nitpicking. Besides, the latest Ipod Nano has lost its unique feature, the Line-Out port, which most audiophiles would love to have in order to let their external amplifiers in total control of the music player. Sony still has it, however, I can't tell you if it's true Line-Out or otherwise as I don't have that kind of data with me currently.

Anyway, it all comes down to personal preferences. If for me, maybe I save up for iPod Classic (which is going to be discontinued soon), or going for Sony F-Series which can be found in the garage sales (Sony Stores have them too, albeit more expensive by Rm400+/-)
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Thanks alot for the info! I actually bought the Sony NW-S766 yesterday and will be waiting for shipping. It's a Japanese variant, so i couldn't find any reviews on it though. I mainly wanted it for the bluetooth feature especially that it could be used with FM radio together. Most mini size mp3 players requires the wired earphones to act as an antenna, but i think this model doesn't require that.
I'm not a true/pure audiophile like everyone here, so i probably won't nitpick much. But i do appreciate quality sound. I hope i bought the correct model, since i'm like shooting in the dark without any reviews about it. And i know i overpaid for it too (rm450), but can't be help since it's only sold in Japan...
And i wanted a mini sized mp3 so it'll be alot easier and convenient if i go jogging or something too smile.gif

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 12 2013, 11:26 PM)
Thanks alot for the info! I actually bought the Sony NW-S766 yesterday and will be waiting for shipping. It's a Japanese variant, so i couldn't find any reviews on it though. I mainly wanted it for the bluetooth feature especially that it could be used with FM radio together. Most mini size mp3 players requires the wired earphones to act as an antenna, but i think this model doesn't require that.
I'm not a true/pure audiophile like everyone here, so i probably won't nitpick much. But i do appreciate quality sound. I hope i bought the correct model, since i'm like shooting in the dark without any reviews about it. And i know i overpaid for it too (rm450), but can't be help since it's only sold in Japan...
And i wanted a mini sized mp3 so it'll be alot easier and convenient if i go jogging or something too  smile.gif
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Then i don't see any problem with that. So far it's a good deal for the features you wanted.
Remember that since it's portable, the SQ won't matter so much. It's not night and day difference, especially you're listening to music outside, which greatly handicapped the SQ of any player/gear unless it is tightly sealing your ears. Anyway, you won't be critically listening also, which makes the SQ of any player "quite" redundant as your ears ain't having so much time to focus on the music itself.
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Apr 12 2013, 11:30 PM)
Then i don't see any problem with that. So far it's a good deal for the features you wanted.
Remember that since it's portable, the SQ won't matter so much. It's not night and day difference, especially you're listening to music outside, which greatly handicapped the SQ of any player/gear unless it is tightly sealing your ears. Anyway, you won't be critically listening also, which makes the SQ of any player "quite" redundant as your ears ain't having so much time to focus on the music itself.
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True, but i guess for the amount of money we pay, we expect SQ to be at least good if not excellent. For a RM450 music player i'll probably be using it as my dedicated portable gear, so SQ is still pretty important for me. And i always use in-ear earphones, so the ones i use has pretty good noise isolation and sealed quite tight.
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 12 2013, 07:14 PM)
reviews lean more towards Sony for sound quality over ipod?
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i have sony s754 (previous generation), i think the review should mention "quality" came from sony 13.5mm earphone given is better than ipod.
otherwise they are more or less a standard mp3 player.

this thing can copy song without propriety software like itune dry.gif also can put sexy wallpaper. haha
interface is simple, with "sense-me" track randomizer.
for the digital sound field processing (DSP), can enable up to ur liking. most of the effects give apparent difference to original earphone.
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Sony still has it, however, I can't tell you if it's true Line-Out or otherwise as I don't have that kind of data with me currently.
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sony got line out, the thing works.
cable accessory is available at garage sales
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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 20 2013, 10:43 AM)

sony got line out, the thing works.
cable accessory is available at garage sales
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I know it works. I just don't know if it is true line-out or just pseudo line-out like previous versions of iPod.
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wat is the best player on the market with excellent SQ and can replace my cube c30?
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abit out of budget for this gem.. just a replacement for c30, maybe price around there or below rm500..
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i'm still trying to find a mp3 player with the following specs:
- Around ipod nano 7th gen size
- Supports flac
- Supports bluetooth
- Have FM radio
- Good sound quality
- Minimum 16gig storage

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anyone knows any player like the above? and within reasonable price? =/

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 26 2013, 12:04 AM)
i'm still trying to find a mp3 player with the following specs:
- Around ipod nano 7th gen size
- Supports flac
- Supports bluetooth
- Have FM radio
- Good sound quality

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anyone knows any player like the above? and within reasonable price? =/
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Samsung YP-P3 would fit the bill nicely.

http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/tv-audi...P-P3AB/XSP-spec

Though one problem is it is a little dated and might be hard to come by. Price is not bad too, and can be used as your phone (connect with bluetooth to phone to answer calls and read SMS).
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Samsung YP-P3 would fit the bill nicely.

http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/tv-audi...P-P3AB/XSP-spec

Though one problem is it is a little dated and might be hard to come by. Price is not bad too, and can be used as your phone (connect with bluetooth to phone to answer calls and read SMS).
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Looks interesting, but its only 8gig sad.gif
I use flac mostly and 8 gig won't give me much space for songs though. Sorry I should have mentioned at least 16gig in the list as well >.<
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 26 2013, 12:04 AM)
i'm still trying to find a mp3 player with the following specs:
- Around ipod nano 7th gen size
- Supports flac
- Supports bluetooth
- Have FM radio
- Good sound quality
- Minimum 16gig storage

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anyone knows any player like the above? and within reasonable price? =/
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how bout try the hisound nova N1 or N3?
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how bout try the hisound nova N1 or N3?
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Okay, i gave up trying to find a mini portable player with audiophile grade SQ and bluetooth. So i'm going for just mini portable player with audiophile grade SQ.

Looked at Hisound Nova series, looks promising until i read about all the bugs loaded with it as well. So looks like i'm looking at either Colorfly C3 or Cowon. Not sure which Cowon series though.
Anyone has any better options? Price wise please below RM700ish =)
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 29 2013, 09:33 PM)
Okay, i gave up trying to find a mini portable player with audiophile grade SQ and bluetooth. So i'm going for just mini portable player with audiophile grade SQ.

Looked at Hisound Nova series, looks promising until i read about all the bugs loaded with it as well. So looks like i'm looking at either Colorfly C3 or Cowon. Not sure which Cowon series though.
Anyone has any better options? Price wise please below RM700ish =)
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QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 29 2013, 09:55 PM)
s9 and j3 are the best but good luck finding them. current model which u can consider including x9, z2 and i10. i pick i10 cus the size and interface. z2 use android which i'm not really care about it but the design is slick. x9 is nice with long lasting battery life but quite bulky.
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actually i want a size similar if not smaller than ipod nano but with at least 16gig storage or with microsd slot. Read up on the i10, not very keen on capacitive touch buttons though. How much and where did you get it from? If i could get it for around RM500ish then i might consider that...
Do you know any other players of similar size/quality?

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 29 2013, 10:00 PM)
actually i want a size similar if not smaller than ipod nano but with at least 16gig storage or with microsd slot. Is i10 size around there? how's the sound quality/sound stage compared to other players?
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if compare to ipod nano 5th gen, the size is about the same; slightly bigger i think.

http://www.cowonglobal.com/product_wide/iA...duct_page_4.php

sound quality is superb even without tweaking eq or bbe. i'm comparing with ipod touch4/iphone4, zune hd and clip zip with rockbox.

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if compare to ipod nano 5th gen, the size is about the same; slightly bigger i think.

http://www.cowonglobal.com/product_wide/iA...duct_page_4.php

sound quality is superb even without tweaking eq or bbe. i'm comparing with ipod touch4/iphone4, zune hd and clip zip with rockbox.
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how much did you pay for it? and where did you buy it from? =)
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how much did you pay for it? and where did you buy it from? =)
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/i10-16-GB-MP4-Play...61202183&sr=8-2

i bought through:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=216628

around rm600+

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QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 29 2013, 10:55 PM)
so you bought from amazon and used her shipping services? aikzz..
was hoping for a cod or shop for around that price haha
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so you bought from amazon and used her shipping services? aikzz..
was hoping for a cod or shop for around that price haha
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yea, i can't find it locally even in singapore no black color available. that is why i use bulk service and decided to order from amazon. how about sony mp3?. http://www.sony.com.my/product/nwz-f804
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yea, i can't find it locally even in singapore no black color available. that is why i use bulk service and decided to order from amazon. how about sony mp3?. http://www.sony.com.my/product/nwz-f804
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haha that's alot bigger than the cowon i10... i want it to be as small as possible with amazing SQ =D

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haha that's alot bigger than the cowon i10... i want it to be as small as possible with amazing SQ =D
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sandisk clip zip will sound similar or better compare with c30?
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 30 2013, 08:35 AM)
sandisk clip zip will sound similar or better compare with c30?
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Clip Zip when rockbox has lots of features which normal MP3 player doesn't.
For eg. Bass boost, treble boost, parametric EQ...
It's like android platform, where you can customize a lot of stuffs to suit your taste.
And of coz, it can support almost all common audio file.
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Clip Zip when rockbox has lots of features which normal MP3 player doesn't.
For eg. Bass boost, treble boost, parametric EQ...
It's like android platform, where you can customize a lot of stuffs to suit your taste.
And of coz, it can support almost all common audio file.
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oh kk.. features is not main point, for me SQ=everything haha.. but if got features then is a plus la.. i plan to try tis novasound but see ppl say got bug i also kecut back abit liao..
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 30 2013, 10:38 AM)
oh kk.. features is not main point, for me SQ=everything haha.. but if got features then is a plus la.. i plan to try tis novasound but see ppl say got bug i also kecut back abit liao..
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I don't know about other players la.
If you too lazy don't wanna customize, go hippo biscuit or sony DAP. They provide instant "special" sound.

W/o customize, sansa clip zip is just average. After rockbox, you can unlease a lot of potential on this player. Main weakness is not enough power for full size headphones. IEM/earphones okay.

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I don't know about other players la.
If you too lazy don't wanna customize, go hippo biscuit or sony DAP. They provide instant "special" sound.

W/o customize, sansa clip zip is just average. After rockbox, you can unlease a lot of potential on this player. Main weakness is not enough power for full size headphones. IEM/earphones okay.
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i like hippo but too bad play mp3 only, most of my album is flac.. have go thru the hassle to convert them. U mean only if u tweak the sound then it will sound great? or u install rockbox then will make the sound better? i don like to tweak the sound, i prefer pure sound from the source, mean no EQ those la..
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 30 2013, 10:59 AM)
i like hippo but too bad play mp3 only, most of my album is flac.. have go thru the hassle to convert them. U mean only if u tweak the sound then it will sound great? or u install rockbox then will make the sound better? i don like to tweak the sound, i prefer pure sound from the source, mean no EQ those la..
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Hey bro, i have already sent my review unit to noobandroid to review biggrin.gif
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Hold on hold on 1 week and then only make decision okay? nod.gif
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Hey bro, i have already sent my review unit to noobandroid to review biggrin.gif
And hopefully, the review can be posted in 1 week time biggrin.gif
Hold on hold on 1 week and then only make decision okay?  nod.gif
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Yeap i do understnad your concern and by all means, if the nova 1 is bug-gy, then i wouldnt recommend you that biggrin.gif
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Hi Emokia Hehe. Sorry for delaying reply, still researching on other portable audio besides Sony Hehe. It was a tiring long process trying to filter out the devices. None were up to my liking which had Bluetooth on top of the size and sq ;(
So I downgraded my options to blue toothless Haha

Was narrowing down after a number of devices to Cowon i10, Hisound Nova, Colorfly C3 and hm-601.
Gonna forget the hm-601 since the price is way over my budget Haha

Aside from the pros which is great SQ among other things for the Cowon, Hisound and Color fly, I'll just focus on the negatives/cons instead based on what I've read.

Cowon i10
- battery life is quite poor for flacs according to some
- durability/quality check is quite poor compared to the past
- annoying capacitive touch buttons
- no expandable memory slot

Hisound Nova (after latest firmware update)
Was really leaning towards this until i read many users nightmare dealing with this..
- non user friendly updates for non chinese readers
- poor support for flac, skipping the first half a sec at the start of each songs and occasional background noise
- hissing noises still apparent when reading/playing songs from sd card
- buggy interface
- occassional crashes

Colorfly C3
- weird awkward touch buttons
- no FM radio? Aikz ;(
- bulkier compared the other 2
- battery life for flac not that great either
- no customizing eq (con for some)

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 30 2013, 01:56 PM)
Hi Emokia Hehe. Sorry for delaying reply, still researching on other portable audio besides Sony Hehe. It was a tiring long process trying to filter out the devices. None were up to my liking which had Bluetooth on top of the size and sq ;(
So I downgraded my options to blue toothless Haha

Was narrowing down after a number of devices to Cowon i10, Hisound Nova, Colorfly C3 and hm-601.
Gonna forget the hm-601 since the price is way over my budget Haha

Aside from the pros which is great SQ among other things for the Cowon, Hisound and Color fly, I'll just focus on the negatives/cons instead based on what I've read.

Cowon i10
- battery life is quite poor for flacs according to some
- durability/quality check is quite poor compared to the past
- annoying capacitive touch buttons
- no expandable memory slot

Hisound Nova (after latest firmware update)
Was really leaning towards this until i read many users nightmare dealing with this..
- non user friendly updates for non chinese readers
- poor support for flac, skipping the first half a sec at the start of each songs and occasional background noise
- hissing noises still apparent when reading/playing songs from sd card
- buggy interface
- occassional crashes

Colorfly C3
- weird awkward touch buttons
- no FM radio? Aikz ;(
- bulkier compared the other 2
- battery life for flac not that great either
- no customizing eq (con for some)
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regarding i10, battery life quite the same either playing flac or mp3. i usually disable sleep function and use power off instead to increase battery life. touch buttons can be troublesome at 1st but nothing major. overall quality is great with matte surface. it match my hf5 perfectly smile.gif

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QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 30 2013, 02:17 PM)
regarding i10, battery life quite the same either playing flac or mp3. i usually disable sleep function and use power off instead to increase battery life. touch buttons can be troublesome at 1st but nothing major. overall quality is great with matte surface. it match my hf5 perfectly smile.gif
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I read someone did a continuous test run on flacs and the player died off after 8-10 hours while MP3 more than 14-16 hours. Have you tested yours? Maybe depends on users luck if they get a better battery copy wink.gif

Anyone knows how the sansa clip+, cube c30 and hippo gumstick sound quality compare to colorfly c3 and Cowon i10?

And also sansa vs cube and hippo?

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 30 2013, 02:45 PM)
I read someone did a continuous test run on flacs and the player died off after 8-10 hours while MP3 more than 14-16 hours. Have you tested yours? Maybe depends on users luck if they get a better battery copy wink.gif

Anyone knows how the sansa clip+, cube c30 and hippo gumstick  sound quality compare to colorfly c3 and Cowon i10?

And also sansa vs cube and hippo?
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i am using sansa fuze personally i think that what you are going to use it with first?? if you plan to use it with iem i highly recommend sansa is a very good player for its price and if you want to amp it to power a more powerful headphone you can use lod to connect it to a amp

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i am using sansa fuze personally i think that what you are going to use it with first?? if you plan to use it with iem i highly recommend sansa is a very good player for its price and if you want to amp it to power a more powerful headphone you can use lod to connect it to a amp
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yep gonna use with iem.
i'm leaning more towards getting sansa clip+ for jogging/exercise and colorfly c3 for more serious listening =)
heard the cube c30 is slightly better than the sansa clip, but decided on the sansa just for the clip lol
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Hi, I'm looking for a high capacity MP3 player. Only for songs. Can be MP4 or whatever but not too big. Are there any Media player have large storage capacity of 80gb and above beside iPods?
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Hi, I'm looking for a high capacity MP3 player. Only for songs. Can be MP4 or whatever but not too big. Are there any Media player have large storage capacity of 80gb and above beside iPods?
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Tough luck.
Sony Walkman Z only max at 64Gb, and that is Japan-only model.
If you're willing to go for microSD card, there is AK100.
Comes with 32Gb built-in memory but also has 2 slots for microSD cards,
giving u a maximum of 32Gb + 128Gb memory
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Tough luck.
Sony Walkman Z only max at 64Gb, and that is Japan-only model.
If you're willing to go for microSD card, there is AK100.
Comes with 32Gb built-in memory but also has 2 slots for microSD cards,
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QUOTE(Kendall @ May 3 2013, 08:28 AM)
Hi, I'm looking for a high capacity MP3 player. Only for songs. Can be MP4 or whatever but not too big. Are there any Media player have large storage capacity of 80gb and above beside iPods?
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Creative makes some good high capacity MP3 players. The 60 Gigs Zen can be considered. Or you can go for Zune, the Zune HD has up to 64 Gigs. The previous version has 80 and 120 Gigs.
Cowon also has a 120 and 160 Gigs variant, the Cowon X7.
Why do you need 80 Gigs anyway? I'm kinda interested.
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Had the Hippo Gumstick... starting to die...

I got RM200 on hands...

what player would be the best to replace the Gumstick other than Cube C30?

say... my requirements are
-able to play wav,flac and ape
-easy to read screen/interface
-expandable memory
-small or thin
-long lasting battery(not necessary)

I've seen Sansa Clip+ and Sansa Fuze... not sure if it's a wise choice to change there

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QUOTE(power911 @ May 7 2013, 10:52 PM)
Had the Hippo Gumstick... starting to die...

I got RM200 on hands...

what player would be the best to replace the Gumstick other than Cube C30?

say... my requirements are
-able to play wav,flac and ape
-easy to read screen/interface
-expandable memory
-small or thin
-long lasting battery(not necessary)

I've seen Sansa Clip+ and Sansa Fuze... not sure if it's a wise choice to change there
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What's wrong with Sansa Clip+? I don't own one, but from what i've read up the SQ is almost on par with Cube C30 and it's alot easier to navigate through songs. Only concern i have is the durability since i've read a number of people having their players die off after a year =/
Was thinking of getting myself a Sansa Clip Zip as well for jogging/gym purposes.

However if you could increase your budget to slightly above RM300, i'd recommend Colorfly C3.
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QUOTE(power911 @ May 7 2013, 10:52 PM)
Had the Hippo Gumstick... starting to die...

I got RM200 on hands...

what player would be the best to replace the Gumstick other than Cube C30?

say... my requirements are
-able to play wav,flac and ape
-easy to read screen/interface
-expandable memory
-small or thin
-long lasting battery(not necessary)

I've seen Sansa Clip+ and Sansa Fuze... not sure if it's a wise choice to change there
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go get the cube c30 hahaha or save up another RM100+ and try to get the colorfly c3 from taobao
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dang.... C3 looking sexy~ (a lil thick though)

mm I shall put that into my consideration smile.gif

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dang.... C3 looking sexy~ (a lil thick though)

mm I shall put that into my consideration smile.gif

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QUOTE(siles1991 @ May 8 2013, 12:31 AM)
yeah its a sexy beast indeed! I would also recommend the Hisound Nova N1, retail in malaysia is RM460 from what I last saw but from i've read its ridden with bugs. Can get from taobao for around RM350 also.
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lol I just realized C3 doesn't come with earphones sweat.gif

Mann Hisound Nova N1 looked more like a player to me dang.... free earbuds too huuhuu

Imma stick to C3 as my first choice then...

which would sound better?(as in less noise on sensitive iem)
N1 had a screen to display album art though

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QUOTE(power911 @ May 8 2013, 12:44 AM)
lol I just realized C3 doesn't come with earphones  sweat.gif

Mann Hisound Nova N1 looked more like a player to me dang.... free earbuds too huuhuu

Imma stick to C3 as my first choice then...

which would sound better?(as in less noise on sensitive iem)
N1 had a screen to display album art though
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Sound wise I think theyre almost the same N1 has bassier signature while C3 has cleaner sound.

Nova N1 comes with PAA-1 Pro which is a very well received stock earbuds.
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Requirement : Sound quality must be at least better than normal PC AudioOUT with a normal soundcard(on board or Realtek etc)

Others: Battery Life > songs capacity

Budget : RM200-RM350

Thank you.

Side note(with equipments above):
1. Tested on Ultrabook Acer S7(normal soundcard), Nokia Asha 302, iPod Shuffle 4th gen and Gaming PC with Asus Xonar DG sound card.
2. SQ result: Xonar DG > Ultrabook Acer S7 > Nokia Asha 302 > iPod Shuffle(its quality can throw and feed to dogs)
3. At first I tot the SQ issues lies within the headphone, but then difference DAC really matters. Gonna use that Shuffle for Squash...

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Hi guys, need expert opinion and suggestion from you all,

Budget : below 200 (willing for extra if worth it)
been Using : old Sony NWZ-B133F (already dead)
priority: battery life and SQ
usage: gonna use it while studying and long travel

i like clear sound if that help, not really a strong bass fan


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QUOTE(arankaru_0 @ May 20 2013, 03:57 PM)
Hi guys, need expert opinion and suggestion from you all,

Budget : below 200 (willing for extra if worth it)
been Using : old Sony NWZ-B133F (already dead)
priority: battery life and SQ
usage: gonna use it while studying and long travel

i like clear sound if that help, not really a strong bass fan
advice pls  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(arankaru_0 @ May 20 2013, 03:57 PM)
Hi guys, need expert opinion and suggestion from you all,

Budget : below 200 (willing for extra if worth it)
been Using : old Sony NWZ-B133F (already dead)
priority: battery life and SQ
usage: gonna use it while studying and long travel

i like clear sound if that help, not really a strong bass fan
advice pls  notworthy.gif
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if clarity is your main priority then definitely Colorfly C3. Best value to quality ratio. But no features though, pure music player. You probably could get it for around RM300ish
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ May 20 2013, 05:15 PM)
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 20 2013, 07:29 PM)
if clarity is your main priority then definitely Colorfly C3. Best value to quality ratio. But no features though, pure music player. You probably could get it for around RM300ish
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thank for ur advices.. hmm, the colourfly look tempting hmm.gif
i might consider if know the exact price

how about hippo biscuit? i heard the SQ is really great
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QUOTE(arankaru_0 @ May 20 2013, 11:00 PM)
thank for ur advices.. hmm, the colourfly look tempting  hmm.gif
i might consider if know the exact price

how about hippo biscuit? i heard the SQ is really great
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well in lowyat forum, a guy (Slevin) is selling it for RM320+ i think. I bought mine from him.

Hippo biscuit is small, durable and cute haha. Very portable. Functions are very limited but based on reviews the SQ is better that iphone and ipods. Though if you want lossless music format, it only supports Wav.
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 20 2013, 11:12 PM)
well in lowyat forum, a guy (Slevin) is selling it for RM320+ i think. I bought mine from him.

Hippo biscuit is small, durable and cute haha. Very portable. Functions are very limited but based on reviews the SQ is better that iphone and ipods. Though if you want lossless music format, it only supports Wav.
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is it better then c3 than? how about battery wise?

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is it better then c3 than?  how about battery wise?
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C3 should be better, but it is more expensive than Hippo Biscuit.
But to me, the C3 sounds better with Balance Armature driver earphones. Dynamic drivers doesn't sound as good compared to BA earphones when using C3.

Hippo Biscuit should do well with both BA and Dynamic i think.

battery wise, it depends what music file format you are playing with. If you are going for lossless, then the battery usage life will be shorter.

oh, added a review from a hippo biscuit user in jaben forum http://www.headjam.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=17
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seriously considering for c3 now.
already contacted selvin. currently waiting for stock
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seriously considering for c3 now.
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although their touch button sucks lol
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seriously considering for c3 now.
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Usability C3 still be better with all the functions.
Hippo Biscuit is a cheap, good sounding and durable DAP =)
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Source : 320kbps, flac/APE(optional)

Equipment : Pioneer SE-M290(Full cans, RM150), Govibe Minibox Amp(RM200)

Requirement : Sound quality must be at least better than normal PC AudioOUT with a normal soundcard(on board or Realtek etc)

Others: Battery Life > songs capacity

Budget : RM200-RM350

Thank you.

Side note(with equipments above):
1. Tested on Ultrabook Acer S7(normal soundcard), Nokia Asha 302, iPod Shuffle 4th gen and Gaming PC with Asus Xonar DG sound card.
2. SQ result: Xonar DG > Ultrabook Acer S7 > Nokia Asha 302 > iPod Shuffle(its quality can throw and feed to dogs)
3. At first I tot the SQ issues lies within the headphone, but then difference DAC really matters. Gonna use that Shuffle for Squash...

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How's the amp section of the Colorfly C3 ya? Currently my Sansa Fuze can't power my Goldring DR150 properly and the highs are very harsh. I don't want to carry separate amp.

Or do I need Rocoo P? The P should have a higher impedance output right? Am I making sense?
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Hey guys, I need help in finding a mp3 player that doesn't use earphone because I don''t like tangled earphones and it jumps around when I'm running. I'm looking for the type that hang around your neck from behind covering your ear with microSD card to put the mp3 songs in. Not those that use bluetooth, it is a mp3 player by itself. Prefer long battery life and 8GB limit will do. I used to have one but it cannot charge so if you can direct me to a shop or website that sell it, that would be great! Thanks smile.gif

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QUOTE(Nam226 @ May 23 2013, 06:48 PM)
Hey guys, I need help in finding a mp3 player that doesn't use earphone because I don''t like tangled earphones and it jumps around when I'm running. I'm looking for the type that hang around your neck from behind covering your ear with microSD card to put the mp3 songs in. Not those that use bluetooth, it is a mp3 player by itself. Prefer long battery life and 8GB limit will do. I used to have one but it cannot charge so if you can direct me to a shop or website that sell it, that would be great! Thanks smile.gif
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Need recommendation for: Portable Music Player

Source : 320kbps, flac/APE(optional)

Equipment : Pioneer SE-M290(Full cans, RM150), Govibe Minibox Amp(RM200)

Requirement : Sound quality must be at least better than normal PC AudioOUT with a normal soundcard(on board or Realtek etc)

Others: Battery Life > songs capacity

Budget : RM200-RM350

Thank you.

Side note(with equipments above):
1. Tested on Ultrabook Acer S7(normal soundcard), Nokia Asha 302, iPod Shuffle 4th gen and Gaming PC with Asus Xonar DG sound card.
2. SQ result: Xonar DG > Ultrabook Acer S7 > Nokia Asha 302 > iPod Shuffle(its quality can throw and feed to dogs)
3. At first I tot the SQ issues lies within the headphone, but then difference DAC really matters. Gonna use that Shuffle for Squash...

Pioneer SE-M290 Specs
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Posted before but no recommendation suggested. THanks.
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QUOTE(Nam226 @ May 23 2013, 06:48 PM)
Hey guys, I need help in finding a mp3 player that doesn't use earphone because I don''t like tangled earphones and it jumps around when I'm running. I'm looking for the type that hang around your neck from behind covering your ear with microSD card to put the mp3 songs in. Not those that use bluetooth, it is a mp3 player by itself. Prefer long battery life and 8GB limit will do. I used to have one but it cannot charge so if you can direct me to a shop or website that sell it, that would be great! Thanks smile.gif
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You can try Hippo Biscuit for easy and portable DAP.
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Thanks for your suggestion. Read your review and Hippo Biscuit seems like a great mp3 player suitable for outdoor use, tough aluminium casing, 10hrs playback, 1.5hrs charge time, swappable microSD card, lightweight and better sound quality than Ipod touch. My only beef is that it need ear/headphones to use and I prefer no cables if possible. Still it's good to know smile.gif
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QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ May 27 2013, 02:15 PM)
Hippo Biscuit will be my recommendation, you can check my review
You can try Hippo Biscuit for easy and portable DAP.
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THanks a lot Spring Biscuit! Yea I focus only limited no. of good songs that keep me driving with pleasure**Don't stop the music~~

So I guess Hippo Biscuit will be my best choice within budget.
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THanks a lot Spring Biscuit! Yea I focus only limited no. of good songs that keep me driving with pleasure**Don't stop the music~~

So I guess Hippo Biscuit will be my best choice within budget.
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You could also look into sansa clip+ and Colorfly c3 smile.gif
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So , anyone did a comparison between hippo biscuit and colorfly c3? very interested to know which one performs better brows.gif
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Hippo is more lively and fun while Colorfly is towards clean and clarity IMO. Hence to me feels like c3 brings out the best in ba driver earphones.

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Wanna ask. Wer can i get colorfly c3 around bukit jalil/puchong/equine park
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Wanna ask. Wer can i get colorfly c3 around bukit jalil/puchong/equine park
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Less than 2 months, like new condition.
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i might be willing to sell mine for RM300 including the silicone case and screen protector if you want =P
Less than 2 months, like new condition.
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I have a test unit, and tested it out, liking the sound, not much on the interface though :/
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Jun 27 2013, 10:37 PM)
yep, its a pure audiophile dap. I prefer the clean clarity and neutrality of the C3 over the X3, so i'm still undecided if i should sell the C3 or the X3 =P
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i might be willing to sell mine for RM300 including the silicone case and screen protector if you want =P
Less than 2 months, like new condition.
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buy Hippo Biscuit..cheap and good since it doesn't have interface. Quality is very good (Depends on your earphone and headphone as well). only RM2++ but only entertain mp3 and WAV.
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however, Colorfly C4 is the best. i never heard this kind of pure sound quality before............
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new here,

want got recommendation of PAD/smartphone that can match sound quality (superlux hd668b and asus xonar dx)

no necessarily come with earphone, plan to use current headphone

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any recommendation on player that can play ALAC format? if not at least FLAC?
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QUOTE(monked @ Jul 19 2013, 11:24 PM)
any recommendation on player that can play ALAC format? if not at least FLAC?
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FiiO X3, AK100, AK120 can play both ALAC and FLAC
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FiiO X3, AK100, AK120 can play both ALAC and FLAC
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i can get the clip+ 8gb for RM170. Is it good in terms of sound quality and is it reliable? tq
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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Jul 20 2013, 10:52 AM)
i can get the clip+ 8gb for RM170. Is it good in terms of sound quality and is it reliable? tq
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i can get the clip+ 8gb for RM170. Is it good in terms of sound quality and is it reliable? tq
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For the given price, SQ of clip+ is awesome, and also I don't have any problem with the reliability; still working well after almost two years (IIRC) of usage.. smile.gif
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For the given price, SQ of clip+ is awesome, and also I don't have any problem with the reliability; still working well after almost two years (IIRC) of usage.. smile.gif
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Hello dear experts,

I am in dilemma to choose which music player device and headphone. icon_question.gif
normal mp3 player? ipod touch? voice recorder? or? sad.gif
bass headphone? studio headphone? rclxub.gif

if i wish to listen clearly of how instruments are playing the flow (even at background) with 320kbps mp3

1. what music player device do u experts recommend?
2. what headphone do u recommend?

kindly enlighten me pls!

thanks!!
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QUOTE(matalie @ Aug 7 2013, 07:29 PM)
Hello dear experts,

I am in dilemma to choose which music player device and headphone.  icon_question.gif
normal mp3 player? ipod touch? voice recorder? or?  sad.gif
bass headphone? studio headphone?  rclxub.gif

if i wish to listen clearly of how instruments are playing the flow (even at background) with 320kbps mp3

1. what music player device do u experts recommend?
2. what headphone do u recommend?

kindly enlighten me pls!

thanks!!
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first what's your budget?
and only headphones? no IEMs?
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first what's your budget?
and only headphones? no IEMs?
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my budget is range from RM20-RM1000, of cause cheaper is better
but i concern about sound quality, to able to listen clearly of how the background instruments are playing the flow
and yeah, i prefer headphone
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QUOTE(matalie @ Aug 7 2013, 11:06 PM)
Thanks for reply  smile.gif
my budget is range from RM20-RM1000, of cause cheaper is better
but i concern about sound quality, to able to listen clearly of how the background instruments are playing the flow
and yeah, i prefer headphone
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do u concern about file management and overall interface?. some ppl prefer player which provide better file management like ipod or zune. as for me i prefer zune hd with simple interface, easy to manage file system and great album management.

sansa clip is good in term of sq. player interface also not bad for stock fimrware but if u install custom firmware like rockbox u can have explorer like file manager. it is up to you, even some ppl prefer player with touch screen function brows.gif

plz avoid new creative product, most of them are disaster but sq wise.

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Astell & Kern AK120, from iRiver. Plays ALL lossless format available in existence. It's a USB DAC (to connect to your PC), it's a DAP with storage up to 192GB (brushed aluminium build quality rivaling iPods and Zunes), and it's an Amp. The be-all-end-all all-in-one device.

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Specifications General

Dimensions * 59.2 x 89,0 x 14.4mm [B x L x H)
Weight * 143 g
Display * 2.4inch/6.1cm QVGA (320 x 240) IPS Touchscreen
Supported audio formats * AAC, ALAC, AIFF, WAV, FLAC, WMA, MP3, OGG, APE * FLAC, WAV
Sample rate * 8kHz ~ 192kHz (8/16/24bits per sample)
Maximum output voltage * 1.5V RMS
Output impedance * 3 Ohm
D/A converter * *2x* Wolfson WM 8740 24Bit DAC
Decoding * Able to 24-bit/192kHz bit to bit decoding
Charging port * Micro USB Type-B
Connections * USB 2.0, Optical In-/Output, 3.5mm stereo headphone output, USB D/A converter
Wireless * Bluetooth 3.0 Audio Performance

Frequency response * 10Hz to 20KHz +/-0.02dB (24bit 48Khz)
Signal to noise ratio * 113dB (1KHz 0dB, 24bit 48Khz)
Crosstalk * < -128dB (1KHz 0dB, 24bit 48Khz
THD + N * < 0.003% (24bit 48Khz)
SMPTE IMD  * < 0.0009% (1KHz 0dB, 24bit 48Khz)

Battery * 2,350mAh 3.7V Li-Polymer
Battery Uptime * Mac. 16 hours(based on MUSIC : FLAC, 16bit, 44KHz Vol. 37, EQ Off, LCD Off)
Charging time * ca. 5 hours Memory

Internal memory * 64GB [NAND]
External * 2x 64Gb MicroSD

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Supported Operating Systems * Windows 2000 / XP / Vista / 7 / 8


- High-End, Dual-Mono portable system equipped with dual DACs independently dedicated to separate left/right audio channels
- High-performance audio beyond standard Hi-Fi specifications
- SACD (Super Audio CD) & DSD format playback support Optical & USB external DAC function
- Up to 192GB memory storage capacity (64 Internal Flash, - - 64GB support in each dual MicroSD card slot)
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Yes, but the AK120 is ridiculously overpriced blink.gif unless you have loads of money to spare without worries then it's okay.
But the build quality and design is without a doubt the best out of most audiophile DAPs. Wish i had the cash to get one sad.gif

QUOTE(matalie @ Aug 7 2013, 11:06 PM)
Thanks for reply  smile.gif
my budget is range from RM20-RM1000, of cause cheaper is better
but i concern about sound quality, to able to listen clearly of how the background instruments are playing the flow
and yeah, i prefer headphone
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If SQ is more important compared to the UI/features/functions, then you can look at Colorfly C3 > Sansa Clip = iPod
Headphones there are 2 types, open or closed cans. For open you will be able to get more depth and soundstage, but isolation won't be as good as closed, and others around you can hear yours songs too.
Closed has better isolation, but less depth and soundstage.

Since you are looking more towards monitoring, you can research more on Beyerdynamic/Sennheiser/Shure models.

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I've seen people recommending Colorfly up there before and I'd wanna inform that there are better options out there than the Colorfly C4 or the clunky iBasso DX100, both at USD750-800 and USD829 respectively and higher, depending on where you look. With the same amount of money, you can already get the Astell & Kern AK100 at USD699 instead of the AK120 model. Don't have to get the AK120.


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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Aug 8 2013, 01:59 AM)
I've seen people recommending Colorfly up there before and I'd wanna inform that there are better options out there than the Colorfly C4 or the clunky iBasso DX100, both at USD750-800 and USD829 respectively and higher, depending on where you look. With the same amount of money, you can already get the Astell & Kern AK100 at USD699 instead of the AK120 model. Don't have to get the AK120.
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haven't tried the C4, but the C3 is very affordable with better SQ than sansa and ipod. But i've seen many preferring the DX100 than the AK120 though, but i won't comment on them since i haven't tried the DX100.
The AK100 output impedance is around 22? Not suited for most IEMs as they are around 16, but then again numbers doesn't mean anything smile.gif
FiiO X3 is almost comparable to AK100 and less than 3x the price which is really reasonable, but build quality and aesthetics doesn't come close to the AK100. So tempted on the AK100 just on the basis of looks lol biggrin.gif
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Thanks for reply  smile.gif
my budget is range from RM20-RM1000, of cause cheaper is better
but i concern about sound quality, to able to listen clearly of how the background instruments are playing the flow
and yeah, i prefer headphone
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Hi matalie.

You can go to the garage sales section and get yourself a Sansa Clip for music player. For headphones get the JVC HA-S500
. The player is very small and portable with good audio quality. The headphones run very efficiently, solidly built and doesn't need an amp to sound its best.

For both it should run around RM400-500. This is most economical.
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thanks for all reply smile.gif appreciate it

sorry for noob question leh, i'm a pretty idiot in tech stuff sad.gif

how about sansa Fuze or ipod touch? colorfly C3 looks tempting brows.gif too bad it doesnt support recording function
or Teclast X19HD?? blink.gif i heard it is a "Clip+ killer" from head-fi, true a?! the battery playback time is impressive!
i researched lowyat about what the review of them
but never get the answer, cause some said its better while some said that better rclxub.gif

p/s: sansa Fuze SQ doesnt same with sansa clip+?

while i heard that sansa SQ is just so so if without rockbox or lod, is that true?

btw, in your all experts opinions, IEM vs OEM, which one better?

My priority concern is can be listened clearly for differentiate of the flow of various background instruments? or great instruments separation (to listen to the arrangement of the songs)

any advice please?smile.gif

THANKS!!

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Aug 8 2013, 02:06 AM)
haven't tried the C4, but the C3 is very affordable with better SQ than sansa and ipod. But i've seen many preferring the DX100 than the AK120 though, but i won't comment on them since i haven't tried the DX100.
The AK100 output impedance is around 22? Not suited for most IEMs as they are around 16, but then again numbers doesn't mean anything smile.gif
FiiO X3 is almost comparable to AK100 and less than 3x the price which is really reasonable, but build quality and aesthetics doesn't come close to the AK100. So tempted on the AK100 just on the basis of looks lol  biggrin.gif
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I'm sorry but I have to disagree by your statement that the numbers do not mean anything as mismatching impedance has something to do with "damping" as it can affect sound reproduction in the FR chart or else why would Vinnie at Red Wine Audio started offering the service of modding to RWAK100 to correct its issues.

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22 Ohms Output Impedance

What is this?:

Almost just almost this player came in nearly flawless but it has a problem in the amp section that is perhaps unforgivable. The output impedance of the amplifier stage is 22 ohms and this is the cause of some very serious problems. Due to the effects of damping it is a rule of thumb that your earphone should have an impedance of roughly 8x the output impedance of the player, meaning ideally this should not be used with anything with impedance lower than 176 ohms. An effect of this is an obvious drop off of bass, reducing some headphones to something that is completely bass-less.

You also have the effects on frequency response, because a lot of headphones do not have flat impedance plots, especially multi armature IEMs with crossovers that can be quite all over the place, the high output impedance coming from the AK100 means less voltage enters the earphones and this makes the different frequencies get a significant amount of difference in volume resulting in a obvious colouration and screwed up frequency response. It is noticeably different and you will be able to tell what the measurements confirm.


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QUOTE(matalie @ Aug 8 2013, 08:43 AM)
thanks for all reply smile.gif appreciate it

how about sansa Fuze or ipod touch?  colorfly C3 looks tempting brows.gif too bad it doesnt support recording function
i researched lowyat about what the review of them
but never get the answer, cause some said its better while some said that better rclxub.gif

p/s: sansa Fuze SQ doesnt same with sansa clip+?

while i heard that sansa SQ is just so so if without rockbox or lod, is that true?
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Strictly in terms of overall SQ, the FiiO X3 will beat the daylight out of the Fuze, iPod and C3. In terms of resolution, the AK100 is better. However, the AK100 losses out in dynamics to the X3.

Don't take my words for it! Do some research on your own, go through the pages, 80+ in total sweat.gif

http://www.head-fi.org/t/663600/impression...gh-fi-low-price

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/headphon...ap-4142859.html


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QUOTE(Problem @ Aug 8 2013, 10:20 AM)
I'm sorry but I have to disagree by your statement that the numbers do not mean anything as mismatching impedance has something to do with "damping" as it can affect sound reproduction in the FR chart or else why would Vinnie at Red Wine Audio started offering the service of modding to RWAK100 to correct its issues.
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No no, what I meant is that in the end your ears will be the better judge instead of numbers. While the impedance in AK100 is a mismatched with a number of IEMs, I've seen some people preferring the sound they hear as it sounded more neutral and less warmish to them.
Ofc numbers would matter in a sense that the sound the DAP produce is what was intended by the developers instead of a mismatch that would alter what you hear smile.gif

@matalie - if you place SQ more importantly don't disregard the C3 smile.gif It is a very neutral, clear and detailed DAP.
IEM has more isolation as the sound is directly in your ear canal. So separation and clarity is definitely towards IEM.

@E1 - AKG
To me the SQ for both C3 and X3 is quite subjective though. Clarity and details to me C3 is ahead of X3, while X3 is ahead in dynamics and soundstage.
C3 feels more neutral while X3 is the warmish type. If given an amp, I'd feel the C3 would be ahead of X3. Definitely best bang for buck DAP despite its horrible touch buttons and simple UI.
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Hello people
I would like to buy a mp3 player with decent sound quality and big memory capacity
do not need any apps,games or internet function with it
Is iPod classic a good choice?
Budget under 1k
Thanks
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I would like to buy a mp3 player with decent sound quality and big memory capacity
do not need any apps,games or internet function with it
Is iPod classic a good choice?
Budget under 1k
Thanks
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Try looking into the Fiio X3, very good sound quality with expandable storage through MicroSd. The UI might be a little clunky but it will get better with every update.
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QUOTE(iOrange @ Aug 24 2013, 05:02 PM)
Hello people
I would like to buy a mp3 player with decent sound quality and big memory capacity
do not need any apps,games or internet function with it
Is iPod classic a good choice?
Budget under 1k
Thanks
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iPod classic would be a decent choice if you want big capacity for that price.
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Try looking into the Fiio X3, very good sound quality with expandable storage through MicroSd. The UI might be a little clunky but it will get better with every update.
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feeling interested about this mp3 biggrin.gif
do u know anything about x5?
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iPod classic would be a decent choice if you want big capacity for that price.
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speaking of audio quality
is there an obvious gap between fiio x3 and ipod classic? hmm.gif

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speaking of audio quality
is there an obvious gap between fiio x3 and ipod classic?  hmm.gif
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Sorry I don't have the classic, only the nano smile.gif
But pretty sure there is a difference, but how big the gap is subjective depending on the person.
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feeling interested about this mp3  biggrin.gif
do u know anything about x5?
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The X5 isn't out yet, but it will be out before the end of the year. Not much is know except what's shown in the 1st posts here:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/661411/fiio-x5-th...uture-successor

I'm also looking forward to it, which is why I'm holding back on the X3
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Sorry I don't have the classic, only the nano smile.gif
But pretty sure there is a difference, but how big the gap is subjective depending on the person.
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i love the "wheel" design of ipod classic,iu and of course the large memory capacity but it lacks the audio performance of x3
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QUOTE(RowanPaladin @ Aug 25 2013, 12:01 AM)
The X5 isn't out yet, but it will be out before the end of the year. Not much is know except what's shown in the 1st posts here:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/661411/fiio-x5-th...uture-successor

I'm also looking forward to it, which is why I'm holding back on the X3
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the x5 attracts me but it seems to have a pricetag of over rm 1k sweat.gif
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the x5 attracts me but it seems to have a pricetag of over rm 1k  sweat.gif
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That's the point. It's around $400, which is pretty pricey for us. I'm considering as I won't need to look for another DAP for a long time and can focus on music instead. lol


But for the price, the X3 is a no-brainer.
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QUOTE(RowanPaladin @ Aug 25 2013, 12:28 AM)
That's the point. It's around $400, which is pretty pricey for us. I'm considering as I won't need to look for another DAP for a long time and can focus on music instead. lol
But for the price, the X3 is a no-brainer.
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i love the "wheel" design of ipod classic,iu and of course the large memory capacity but it lacks the audio performance of x3
feels contradicted  sweat.gif
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Well you said you wanted big capacity and decent SQ, i think the classic suits your requirements. They have the biggest capacity in that price range and their SQ is decent.
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What DAP are you using?
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guys which of the sansa sounds the best?
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QUOTE(iOrange @ Aug 24 2013, 05:02 PM)
Hello people
I would like to buy a mp3 player with decent sound quality and big memory capacity
do not need any apps,games or internet function with it
Is iPod classic a good choice?
Budget under 1k
Thanks
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FiiO X3 or iBasso DX50 nod.gif
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guys which of the sansa sounds the best?
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those with rockbox capable
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