u use 14" ke david?

looks small to me..

me using 15" 6.5jj and tyre is 195/50/15.. rub at back but change to perdana spring to make it harder.. slight rub if behind got passenger on uneven road..

Looks like I'll be here upstairs for a good while.

nice. what isit?

Sorry I FFK you today. Got stuck at meeting until late

hahah thats cool
very impressed with Renautech they got 2 of my cars fixed today, changed the AMT motor and flywheel/sensor plus full service of one MT and everything done by 5PM.
definitely going back to them.

btw they used Liqui Moly 10W-30 and duuuude. everything is butterrrryyy and creeeaaamyyyy on that D4F 

i drove my sawi into a really deep flood of water a few weeks back. it was raining really really heavily and i was driving fast below the bridge (around Chan Sow Lin) into the industrial/factory area. it was around 2 feet deep, i drove fast, got stuck a little and floored my accelerator and got out. I could tell that something wasn't right when my gears started to shift noisily and my undercarriage cover broke off! My engine temp dropped to 1 bar all of sudden. but..my sawi seems to be still working normally till today..probably lucky?

Sensors kena wonkey awhile when got water soaked in. However, if generally no problem, please proceed to have the oil(transmission,engine,brake) changed to be on the safe side Basically if you don't get trap + engine stall at the middle of flood, you're fine. Provided water level does not cover intake inlet/spark oil/ECU and whilst you're having enough engine speed to keep the exhaust pipe blowing OUTWARD, your car can survive that flood

how much for the amt motor?

10-30 is nicer than 10-40?

I am wondering which is better as well..
renautech help me change 10-30 by default also

Guys, is it normal to have a clutch busted at just 12k km?

Used the LuK clutch kit for less than a year.

Refer my thread below:

Clutch problem

Hi all,

Today while I was driving, my clutch suddenly became really hard to press. And when i pressed it all the way in, I heard a grinding sound, which is definitely not good!

I experienced a similar problem before last year and when I sent to the service centre, they told me the clutch had to be replaced. It was already very odd then, my car was purchased in February 2010 and I had to change the clutch in July 2012. Mileage was around 36k. I often rev the car to 5-6k rpm when engaging gear 1, so I thought that was the reason it worn out so quickly.

Ok after replacing, the problem comes back today in May 2013. I did not do that 5-6k rev on gear 1 throughout this whole time coz I was scared my clutch would burn out on me again. My mileage now is around 48k. I drive slightly faster than an average person, other than that I do not abuse my gearbox/clutch. Within 10 months and clocking around 12k km, it definitely does not seem normal to be replacing my clutch once more.

Car is a manual Proton Savvy btw.

Appreciate your help!

Update: Grinding sound has disappeared when I tried again hmm...

You sent it back to Proton SC? Proton SC mechanics knows nuts about the Savvy. Send to Renault specialist eg. Renautech

Summoning davidke20

Well so far the one at Proton Section 13 are ok, rest are not. I have yet to send this time to them, scared they tell me the same thing. Last time I wanted to replace the clutch at renautech, they quoted a very high price. But shouldn't the clutch be same for most cars? Savvy is mostly the ignition coil, tdc sensor  and AMT probs.

Before anything else, please proceed to buy 1 spare clutch cable and keep inside your trunk.

Clutch in Shawie is uniquely DESIGNED TO FAIL within 30k, sometimes 20k mileage. Mine, last changed was last year September, and December already same plobrem recurred. The same squeeking sound happened to most(if not all) Shawie when you have enough chance to meet up with fellow Shawie members during TT. For your information, the clutch itself has nothing to do with the squeeking sound you heard. The sound emit from the clutch cable LINK inside the gearbox. There's a linkage block that pull the FORK between your clutch cable. That's the damn thing needed frequent lubrication. Should you know how to do so, unplug the clutch cable, lube it with grease and plonk it back, then your clutch pedal will sound as new. As for the heavy weight feeling, it was the clutch cover. For God knows reason, all brand/version/grade of clutch cover/shoe you use, eventually the clutch cover spring will grow weak in EXTREMELY short time. Such weight without an efficient spring would translate as a 30tons truck feeling when you hit the pedal. Nonetheless, such heavy clutching action is the main culprit of causing the joint/linkage block to squeek

Clutch cover is the top most round shape UFO with stripes extending from the middle. Clutch pad is the black color thingy at the bottom with coil springs. Those stripes on the clutch cover are the springs that will reject your clutch pad from the flywheel when you hit the clutch pedal. When those springs starts failing/losing tension, you'll have to press the clutch pedal very hard to release your clutch pad.


Trust me, you can spend all your money replacing clutch for the rest of your Shawie's life, and the same thing will come back and haunt you over and over again every few months down the road. My car already running 179k currently, still staying strong - BUT WITH THE SQUEEKING SOUND. Occassionally I will get my magician to lube my clutch cable and it will stop squeeking like a pig for few weeks. Good luck. Feel free to lurk around our official Shawie thread in LYN. Although it's half dead, but few of the senior members still there to answer your questions.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2193189

Wow thanks for the detailed explanation! How come I don't see any Savvy members experiencing that issue? Btw, what was your permanent solution to this problem? Just lubricating? But that won't solve the super heavy feel right?

First, to answer your question of other members complain. There are many Shawie owner having the problem, but didn't voice it out. Ayam having the problem, but knowing can't change the fact neither can I do anything about it. Might as well spend money do up other stuff on the car, instead of sitting here cry like a baby cry sky cry earth also kenot solve the heavy clutch issue.

Our clutch set usually around RM350 ~ RM500 depending on grades. Cheapest workmanship also will cost RM180, thanks to hypermount previous discovery went up North trip. Generally in KL, servicing clutch in Shawie labor would cost atleast RM300. So, ayam guessing Renautech quoted you RM700 for the clutch replacement. You pandai² make the decision. If you still decided to give it a shot, please proceed to change the clutch set then. Do take note to use different kind/brand/grade of clutch for your car, so you can compare which 1 can last you longer. Please let us know if you found any clutch set that can last you 50k mileage. I'd like to try it out

I have previously explained, the clutch cover is the main culprit that causes all other problem. In my opinion, it's a design flaw. It not only happened in Shawie, so as Renault Clio, Kangoo also having the same issue of 30tons truck clutch. There's no permenant cure for this, I even suspect our almighty AMT that always rosak also caused by the weaken clutch cover. Do take note, regardless manual or AMT, we share the same engine/gearbox. Only thing is, if you're using AMT, the robot go die fast. If you're using manual, your left knee joint pain Lube it up will slightly ease the pedal action a little bit, but will not cure it in the long run.

w33wawa, I think your car last time also squeeking rite? Now is what? 1 month already since last service? Got come back or not?

Yo, the clutch squeeking as usual,but something it feels very easy to press than usual/quiet, and sometime squeeking like a babi as you describe.
But i get used to the heavy clutch feel edi, give me drive other proton with super light weight clutch.I will be like   

Hi TS, as davidke20 said,clutch squeeking is a normal issue,unless u rajin to lube it time to time.
p/s : TS mention that when he went full clutch in,tats the cause of the sound?

Well, I won't say mine is squeaking sound, more to grinding sohnd when the clutch pedal is depressed fully. The sound is more to "tok tok tok" than "ee ee ee".

Hmm wonder what's the long term effect if I don't replace it soon. Using LuK clutch kit and only made it to 12k km. Dunno still got warranty or not haih So expensive to maintain this car after few years.

Uploaded video of clutch prob, notice the weird knocking sound and when it is depressed fully?

That is abnormal ady. I think Renautech is right, you may NEED to change clutch. Where do you stay? If you dun mind, we can setup a date and travel to meet my magician let him troubleshoot your car. He's not pakar Shawie, but atleast he can tell you what can be done if he weren't able to do it at minimal cost.

To me, this sounds like the tension spring on the clutch disc rattle. If not, it would be the clutch bearing sudah jammed. You may try your luck to claim for warranty, as this kind of problem usually only bastards like me who often go wheelspin can happen.

Hey guys! After drove long distance this time heading to east coast, my savvy couldn't start due to faulty fuel pump. After parked overnight at house, next day couldn't start thought it was TDC sensor.

For high mileage users, this is another part you need to take care of, fuel pump. Mine is alrady 160000km.

Thumbs up to RHB Insurance, fast and hassle, towed to PE. I was impressed with PE's pomen knowlege on Savvy, explained a lot of other things like AMT and stuffs. If you read my earlier post my first breakdown was during CNY due to overheat flywheel melting my TDC sensor.

RM300 for the part and 50 for labour at PE>

Ok guess can't be saved already, have to replace the clutch haih No warranty is given for the clutch, so really have to invest in a new set. Perhaps it's because I use Savvy for city drive most of the time and usually always jam, so that's why my clutch runs super fast. Wheeelspin I occasionally do it heh

Live at ttdi btw. Will probably send to Proton Sec. 13 to get it fixed asap. Don't dare drive it now, seems like very harsh for my car.