ppl always say hard to start engine is due to dirty TDC sensor...did u clean/mod the sensor b4?
no sure about the steering issue doe...

As w33wawa already answered most of your queries, you can send in for Renautech as they're the expert in Renault, price is acceptable. Do remember, EURO engine, EURO price. Compare apple to apple, you're having a very reliable EURO engine and EURO quality with EURO handling(Lotus). Despite Shawie looked like a toilet bowl with wheels, but its a very comfortable EURO toilet bowl. The closest match Plotong GaGa still can't beat the ride & handling in a Shawie.

As for AMT, I personally can't guarantee you after spending a fortune, the problem won't come back again. To fully overhaul an AMT transmission, price can come close to 3k. Not include if parts NEED to be replaced. I'm talking about service it back, not replacing. Please book for RS Auto, according to my understanding, RS and Osman is cheaper than Renautech. For me, Renautech is just simply easier accessible for me. Frankly, if within 1k can settle, then repair it back. If really more than 3k, I suggest you sell the damn car and buy another 1 better.

Not convenient to comment on MyBi. They've very good engine from Toyoga, fuel efficiency similar to Shawie, rides & handling.... I really can't comment much. Already kena 1 time warning, don't wanna get my account suspend because of commenting on other make/model

if not mistaken less than 50.

Plotong aint gonna do all that thing for you, they have no fuken idea wadafuq a TDC sensor does To keep your warranty(if you still have 1), please wait until finish then only go outside do/mod the TDC sensor. You may also wanna clean your throttlebody every 1 or 1.5 years according to Alan - Renautech. He say not trying to earn my money, but our D4F rocker PCV(breather) aint designed to be that efficient, or it was purposely designed to leak engine oil to the intake throttlebody to gain lubricant to the butterfly. In ang mo country may be ok la, since not that dirty. In our dusty environment, provided a wet throttlebody can easily stuck up the butterfly. Hence the jerk last week w33wawa komplen about. After wash throttlebody, all settled. Alan charge me RM20 the last time he clean my throttlebody. After that, I DIY liao So easy to do

Simple Guide
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1. Go Renautech
2. Tell Ur problem
3. They Fix
4. Check and Verify
5. Payment

Done.you have your nice car back...lolx =D

Don't last time, wanna call call now. We're not Mr.Ho, how can we promise you anything If I tell you can walk in Caturday, sardenly u reached there kena kicked out konfem yiu cum bak and kick my ass ady If Mr.Ho still not answering, then probably they're still like below:

http://afifcr.blogspot.com/2011/02/19-february-2011.html

Up to you to consider lar, I'd rather find a magician that pick up my calls, despite slightly more expansive and dem farkin far from ma haus

60k for timing belt? thats fast. mayb you could ask them to check for u 1st.

May be drop by around 2pm since going to Shah Alam area

If you see this Thundercat...


Sorry I mean this


If you see this pretty lady in red, please tell me you're pizzaboyj from LYN, we go lunch together

nice. what isit?

Sorry I FFK you today. Got stuck at meeting until late

Hi all,

Today while I was driving, my clutch suddenly became really hard to press. And when i pressed it all the way in, I heard a grinding sound, which is definitely not good!

I experienced a similar problem before last year and when I sent to the service centre, they told me the clutch had to be replaced. It was already very odd then, my car was purchased in February 2010 and I had to change the clutch in July 2012. Mileage was around 36k. I often rev the car to 5-6k rpm when engaging gear 1, so I thought that was the reason it worn out so quickly.

Ok after replacing, the problem comes back today in May 2013. I did not do that 5-6k rev on gear 1 throughout this whole time coz I was scared my clutch would burn out on me again. My mileage now is around 48k. I drive slightly faster than an average person, other than that I do not abuse my gearbox/clutch. Within 10 months and clocking around 12k km, it definitely does not seem normal to be replacing my clutch once more.

Car is a manual Proton Savvy btw.

Appreciate your help!

Update: Grinding sound has disappeared when I tried again hmm...

You sent it back to Proton SC? Proton SC mechanics knows nuts about the Savvy. Send to Renault specialist eg. Renautech

Summoning davidke20

Well so far the one at Proton Section 13 are ok, rest are not. I have yet to send this time to them, scared they tell me the same thing. Last time I wanted to replace the clutch at renautech, they quoted a very high price. But shouldn't the clutch be same for most cars? Savvy is mostly the ignition coil, tdc sensor  and AMT probs.

Before anything else, please proceed to buy 1 spare clutch cable and keep inside your trunk.

Clutch in Shawie is uniquely DESIGNED TO FAIL within 30k, sometimes 20k mileage. Mine, last changed was last year September, and December already same plobrem recurred. The same squeeking sound happened to most(if not all) Shawie when you have enough chance to meet up with fellow Shawie members during TT. For your information, the clutch itself has nothing to do with the squeeking sound you heard. The sound emit from the clutch cable LINK inside the gearbox. There's a linkage block that pull the FORK between your clutch cable. That's the damn thing needed frequent lubrication. Should you know how to do so, unplug the clutch cable, lube it with grease and plonk it back, then your clutch pedal will sound as new. As for the heavy weight feeling, it was the clutch cover. For God knows reason, all brand/version/grade of clutch cover/shoe you use, eventually the clutch cover spring will grow weak in EXTREMELY short time. Such weight without an efficient spring would translate as a 30tons truck feeling when you hit the pedal. Nonetheless, such heavy clutching action is the main culprit of causing the joint/linkage block to squeek

Clutch cover is the top most round shape UFO with stripes extending from the middle. Clutch pad is the black color thingy at the bottom with coil springs. Those stripes on the clutch cover are the springs that will reject your clutch pad from the flywheel when you hit the clutch pedal. When those springs starts failing/losing tension, you'll have to press the clutch pedal very hard to release your clutch pad.


Trust me, you can spend all your money replacing clutch for the rest of your Shawie's life, and the same thing will come back and haunt you over and over again every few months down the road. My car already running 179k currently, still staying strong - BUT WITH THE SQUEEKING SOUND. Occassionally I will get my magician to lube my clutch cable and it will stop squeeking like a pig for few weeks. Good luck. Feel free to lurk around our official Shawie thread in LYN. Although it's half dead, but few of the senior members still there to answer your questions.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2193189

Wow thanks for the detailed explanation! How come I don't see any Savvy members experiencing that issue? Btw, what was your permanent solution to this problem? Just lubricating? But that won't solve the super heavy feel right?

First, to answer your question of other members complain. There are many Shawie owner having the problem, but didn't voice it out. Ayam having the problem, but knowing can't change the fact neither can I do anything about it. Might as well spend money do up other stuff on the car, instead of sitting here cry like a baby cry sky cry earth also kenot solve the heavy clutch issue.

Our clutch set usually around RM350 ~ RM500 depending on grades. Cheapest workmanship also will cost RM180, thanks to hypermount previous discovery went up North trip. Generally in KL, servicing clutch in Shawie labor would cost atleast RM300. So, ayam guessing Renautech quoted you RM700 for the clutch replacement. You pandai² make the decision. If you still decided to give it a shot, please proceed to change the clutch set then. Do take note to use different kind/brand/grade of clutch for your car, so you can compare which 1 can last you longer. Please let us know if you found any clutch set that can last you 50k mileage. I'd like to try it out

I have previously explained, the clutch cover is the main culprit that causes all other problem. In my opinion, it's a design flaw. It not only happened in Shawie, so as Renault Clio, Kangoo also having the same issue of 30tons truck clutch. There's no permenant cure for this, I even suspect our almighty AMT that always rosak also caused by the weaken clutch cover. Do take note, regardless manual or AMT, we share the same engine/gearbox. Only thing is, if you're using AMT, the robot go die fast. If you're using manual, your left knee joint pain Lube it up will slightly ease the pedal action a little bit, but will not cure it in the long run.

w33wawa, I think your car last time also squeeking rite? Now is what? 1 month already since last service? Got come back or not?

Yo, the clutch squeeking as usual,but something it feels very easy to press than usual/quiet, and sometime squeeking like a babi as you describe.
But i get used to the heavy clutch feel edi, give me drive other proton with super light weight clutch.I will be like   

Hi TS, as davidke20 said,clutch squeeking is a normal issue,unless u rajin to lube it time to time.
p/s : TS mention that when he went full clutch in,tats the cause of the sound?

Well, I won't say mine is squeaking sound, more to grinding sohnd when the clutch pedal is depressed fully. The sound is more to "tok tok tok" than "ee ee ee".

Hmm wonder what's the long term effect if I don't replace it soon. Using LuK clutch kit and only made it to 12k km. Dunno still got warranty or not haih So expensive to maintain this car after few years.

My savvy won't change the gear to neutral(can't start car due to this prob), does the gearbox kaput or its something else??     (Been using for 3 years without problem  )