Hi all,

Today while I was driving, my clutch suddenly became really hard to press. And when i pressed it all the way in, I heard a grinding sound, which is definitely not good!

I experienced a similar problem before last year and when I sent to the service centre, they told me the clutch had to be replaced. It was already very odd then, my car was purchased in February 2010 and I had to change the clutch in July 2012. Mileage was around 36k. I often rev the car to 5-6k rpm when engaging gear 1, so I thought that was the reason it worn out so quickly.

Ok after replacing, the problem comes back today in May 2013. I did not do that 5-6k rev on gear 1 throughout this whole time coz I was scared my clutch would burn out on me again. My mileage now is around 48k. I drive slightly faster than an average person, other than that I do not abuse my gearbox/clutch. Within 10 months and clocking around 12k km, it definitely does not seem normal to be replacing my clutch once more.

Car is a manual Proton Savvy btw.

Appreciate your help!

Update: Grinding sound has disappeared when I tried again hmm...

This post has been edited by FlamingFox: May 7 2013, 12:17 AM

You sent it back to Proton SC? Proton SC mechanics knows nuts about the Savvy. Send to Renault specialist eg. Renautech

Summoning davidke20

This post has been edited by dares: May 5 2013, 05:04 PM

Well so far the one at Proton Section 13 are ok, rest are not. I have yet to send this time to them, scared they tell me the same thing. Last time I wanted to replace the clutch at renautech, they quoted a very high price. But shouldn't the clutch be same for most cars? Savvy is mostly the ignition coil, tdc sensor and AMT probs.

Before anything else, please proceed to buy 1 spare clutch cable and keep inside your trunk.

Clutch in Shawie is uniquely DESIGNED TO FAIL within 30k, sometimes 20k mileage. Mine, last changed was last year September, and December already same plobrem recurred. The same squeeking sound happened to most(if not all) Shawie when you have enough chance to meet up with fellow Shawie members during TT. For your information, the clutch itself has nothing to do with the squeeking sound you heard. The sound emit from the clutch cable LINK inside the gearbox. There's a linkage block that pull the FORK between your clutch cable. That's the damn thing needed frequent lubrication. Should you know how to do so, unplug the clutch cable, lube it with grease and plonk it back, then your clutch pedal will sound as new. As for the heavy weight feeling, it was the clutch cover. For God knows reason, all brand/version/grade of clutch cover/shoe you use, eventually the clutch cover spring will grow weak in EXTREMELY short time. Such weight without an efficient spring would translate as a 30tons truck feeling when you hit the pedal. Nonetheless, such heavy clutching action is the main culprit of causing the joint/linkage block to squeek

Clutch cover is the top most round shape UFO with stripes extending from the middle. Clutch pad is the black color thingy at the bottom with coil springs. Those stripes on the clutch cover are the springs that will reject your clutch pad from the flywheel when you hit the clutch pedal. When those springs starts failing/losing tension, you'll have to press the clutch pedal very hard to release your clutch pad.


Trust me, you can spend all your money replacing clutch for the rest of your Shawie's life, and the same thing will come back and haunt you over and over again every few months down the road. My car already running 179k currently, still staying strong - BUT WITH THE SQUEEKING SOUND. Occassionally I will get my magician to lube my clutch cable and it will stop squeeking like a pig for few weeks. Good luck. Feel free to lurk around our official Shawie thread in LYN. Although it's half dead, but few of the senior members still there to answer your questions.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2193189

Wow thanks for the detailed explanation! How come I don't see any Savvy members experiencing that issue? Btw, what was your permanent solution to this problem? Just lubricating? But that won't solve the super heavy feel right?

This post has been edited by FlamingFox: May 5 2013, 10:47 PM

First, to answer your question of other members complain. There are many Shawie owner having the problem, but didn't voice it out. Ayam having the problem, but knowing can't change the fact neither can I do anything about it. Might as well spend money do up other stuff on the car, instead of sitting here cry like a baby cry sky cry earth also kenot solve the heavy clutch issue.

Our clutch set usually around RM350 ~ RM500 depending on grades. Cheapest workmanship also will cost RM180, thanks to hypermount previous discovery went up North trip. Generally in KL, servicing clutch in Shawie labor would cost atleast RM300. So, ayam guessing Renautech quoted you RM700 for the clutch replacement. You pandai² make the decision. If you still decided to give it a shot, please proceed to change the clutch set then. Do take note to use different kind/brand/grade of clutch for your car, so you can compare which 1 can last you longer. Please let us know if you found any clutch set that can last you 50k mileage. I'd like to try it out

I have previously explained, the clutch cover is the main culprit that causes all other problem. In my opinion, it's a design flaw. It not only happened in Shawie, so as Renault Clio, Kangoo also having the same issue of 30tons truck clutch. There's no permenant cure for this, I even suspect our almighty AMT that always rosak also caused by the weaken clutch cover. Do take note, regardless manual or AMT, we share the same engine/gearbox. Only thing is, if you're using AMT, the robot go die fast. If you're using manual, your left knee joint pain Lube it up will slightly ease the pedal action a little bit, but will not cure it in the long run.

w33wawa, I think your car last time also squeeking rite? Now is what? 1 month already since last service? Got come back or not?

Yo, the clutch squeeking as usual,but something it feels very easy to press than usual/quiet, and sometime squeeking like a babi as you describe.
But i get used to the heavy clutch feel edi, give me drive other proton with super light weight clutch.I will be like

Hi TS, as davidke20 said,clutch squeeking is a normal issue,unless u rajin to lube it time to time.


p/s : TS mention that when he went full clutch in,tats the cause of the sound?

This post has been edited by w33wawa: May 6 2013, 10:25 AM

Well, I won't say mine is squeaking sound, more to grinding sohnd when the clutch pedal is depressed fully. The sound is more to "tok tok tok" than "ee ee ee".

Hmm wonder what's the long term effect if I don't replace it soon. Using LuK clutch kit and only made it to 12k km. Dunno still got warranty or not haih So expensive to maintain this car after few years.

lets move the discussion over to the Savvy thread. will quote everything on this and lets have mods close this. keeping savvys to savvys

After i see the pictures only i know the grinding sound when changing gears is because the clutch cannot be fully depressed. That cable is bad news.

proton section 13 know nothing bout savvy engine..
did sent to them before end up car spend 1 night there without issue solve..

sent to RSauto, issue settle less then an hour.. this is like 4 year ago..

that time, my car hard to start aka the tdc cable problem..
mr ho solder the wire to the tdc, and voila working fine till now..

i agree with netmatrix comment, might be clutch cable not properly adjust.. try manually adjust yourself..



This post has been edited by NOX: May 8 2013, 09:03 AM

Hey 50k km is very low.

I haven't changed my clutch plate yet - now clocking 160 000km! Now average pomen knows how to change Savvy clutch like other cars. Clutch overheats flwheel till burnt the TDC sensor during a trip uphill in penang. Yet I haven't change it. RM180 was the price quoted in a Penang workshop and Melaka (Shah from Flyways TNT) so I think the rate is also for other cars.

Now trying to find the price from PE, contrary to opinions some Proton Edar have Savvy expert btw.

You know any Savvy Expert up north in penang? Please intro.. would like to try them...

Thanks!

Are you in penang? I found this workshop by sheer coincidence.
Quoted RM180 for Clutch change labour.

Yep. Just moved back. previous was done by RSAuto and Renaultech..

Something is wrong with the AMT again.. after Robotic Arm (Jan2012) and Clutch Pump (Jan2013) repair..

Need a diagnosis.. Go PESC.. they say change whole system.. doesnt want to check part by part..

For AMT which a bit complicated, you can deal wit this expert from melaka. With some arrangement he can go to Penang.

His name is Shah.

http://flywaystntagency.blogspot.com/

thanks... will contact him and arrange

But will try the 1 you found 1st. see if he really expert anot..