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TSciohbu
post Dec 21 2011, 12:21 PM, updated 14y ago

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decided to create separate topic for neocaridina shrimp as its getting more and more famous among pet lovers locally biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

come and discuss about diet/food, diseases, water parameter/management, tank setup, tools/accessories, or just show off your lovely shrimp here rclxms.gif

my tank with fire red

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tank parameters
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PH : 6-7
GH : 5-6
water temp : 28-29C
substrate : ADA new amazonia + white river sand on the left
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post Dec 21 2011, 12:22 PM

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Cherry Shrimp
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PH: 6.4 - 7.6
KH: 0 - 10
GH: 4 - 14
TDS: 80 - 200
Water temp: 18 - 23


Yellow Shrimp/Yellow Fire
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PH: 6.4 - 7.6
KH: 0 - 10
GH: 4 - 14
TDS: 80 - 200
Water temp: 18 - 23


Snowball/White Pearl
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PH: 6.2 - 6.8
KH: 2 - 5
GH: 4 - 8
TDS: 100 - 200
Water temp: 20 - 25


Blue Pearl
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PH: 6.2 - 6.8
KH: 2 - 5
GH: 4 - 8
TDS: 100 - 200
Water temp: 20 - 25


Rili Shrimp
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PH: 6.4 - 7.6
KH: 0 - 10
GH: 4 - 14
TDS: 80 - 200
Water temp: 18 - 23


Acclimating new shrimp (drip method)

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Shrimp bought at the store or sent via (express) courier service need to be acclimated slowly and carefully to their new environment. The transport is stressful to them even if they are well packed in a styrofoam box and breathing bags.


So why is drip acclimation such an important step after you purchase fish/shrimp?
Generally speaking, one should always use the drip method to acclimate new invertebrates (and fish, for that matter). The drip method takes at least 1.5 hours, but best for 3 hours or longer depending on how much the original water parameters differ from your local (or tank) water parameters.

Drip acclimating gives your fish or shrimp the time they need to adjust the balance of salts, minerals, and the like in their bodies with the salts and minerals present in the water in their new homes. If the salt content in their bodies is high (origin is hard water) and they are moving into soft water where TDS is low, just dumping the fish/shrimp in may cause them irreparable harm, stressing their bodies and making them susceptible to disease. Their bodies will not be able to adjust quickly enough (via the natural process of osmosis) and lead to shock. This is less likely to be as a result of pH shock, as we discussed previously, but more like from the inability to adjust to the new TDS level. Osmotic pressure changes are much more severe for aquatic organisms.

By doing a slow drip acclimation, you change the TDS content of the water gradually and allows the fish/shrimp to slowly adapt. The water flow also need not be constant. It may be a good idea to even stop the flow of water altogether and let the animals sit for awhile and then restart the drip. The technique can be adjusted as you see fit.
http://www.shrimpnow.com/content.php/256-A...ning-New-Shrimp

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Shrimp Diseases: Bacterial Infection

Diagnosis and Symptoms
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The diagnosis of shrimp diseases is a very complex area and it is often not possible to distinguish at first sight which or if any disease is present. In many cases, livestock are already affected when an outbreak becomes visible. It may start with one dead shrimp each day, and while water parameters may seem suitable, it can lead to molting problems and further fatalities. If shrimp turn white inside the body and their usual coloration fades, this only shows there is a problem in the circulation and a lack of oxygen in the body. Any fungal or bacterial infection in the body or harming of the gills can cause this. Most of these infections are secondary, meaning the actual cause is environmental, reducing the resistance of the shrimp. Some affected shrimp even lose antenna and other extremities (e.g. legs, eyes). In a later phase, shrimp are inactive and may ‘stagger’ through the water. These shrimp are more likely to die sooner rather than later. Some bacteria populations also erode the exoskeleton and shell: rusty, brown or black spots and holes are the visible signs of this. Also the gills can sometimes be damaged by bacterial pathogens.


Biological and Organic Treatment methods
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-The most important thing to do is: to improve water quality which in turn reduces harmful bacteria.
-Clean the tank and gravel from mud and leftovers regularly.
-Check your filtration set up and clean pipes and filter if it is very dirty or running slow.
-Use filter booster bacteria like Mosura Bacter 9 to raise beneficial bacteria (probiotics) in your tank.
-Inject oxygen with a simple air stone or similar.
-Do change the water daily, with a minimum of 80% (not less!) for at least two weeks. This lowers the quantity of bacteria. If you change less than 80% of the water, bacteria will bloom again. It is important that the incoming fresh water has the same water parameters as your tank. Changes in parameters e.g. pH or GH will stress -your shrimp even more.
-Feed less in both frequency and amount and remove ill or dead shrimp as soon as possible.
-Add Indian Almond Leaves ('Ketapang Leaves') to support/promote healing.
-Reduce stress for your shrimp.


Fish Medicaments already tested with Freshwater Dwarf Shrimp (against Bacterial Diseases)
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Clindamycin
esHa Exit
JBL Furanol (2)
Seachem Paraguard
Sera Bactopur
Sera Omnipur S
http://www.shrimpnow.com/content.php/134-S...erial-Infection

Bugs and Worms in a Shrimp Tank (harmful)

Hydra
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Hydras are tiny animals, which are closely related to jellyfish. Green Hydras live in fresh water, such as streams, rivers, lakes, and ponds. They are very common.

A Green Hydra can grow up to 30 millimeters long, but usually they are less than 15 mm. Hydras are found in shallow water, where they attach themselves to plants, stones, twigs, or other objects. Unlike their jellyfish cousins, they don't like to float around.
rey of Green Hydras includes aquatic insects, crustaceans (such as water fleas and scuds), flatworms, aquatic worms, fish fry, and other small creatures in the water. They also eat a certain type of algae, called Chlorella, which is what makes hydras green. Chlorella stays alive inside the hydra. Since algae makes its own food. The hydra lets the Chlorella make food for it.

If a hydra needs to move (perhaps it's not getting enough food), it can detach itself and move like an inchworm. They are notoriously well known to kill shrimplets and fish fries in breeding tanks.


Planaria
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Planarias are free-living, primarily carnivorous flatworms-with a three-branched digestive cavity and comes in a varieties of colors (White, Rusty Pink and brown). Planarias may eat other living, as well as dead, invertebrates, detritus or decaying organic matter. That is why sometimes even if you stopped feeding for a few days, the planarias do not died from hunger and may even attack freshly moulted shrimps and shrimplets when there is a lack of food. Planaria usually slides on the gravel and tank walls in search of food and or bury themselves in the gravel to hide away from the light.


more details : http://www.shrimpnow.com/content.php/122-B...n-a-Shrimp-Tank

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post Dec 21 2011, 12:26 PM

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is orange considered neocaridina shrimp ?
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post Dec 21 2011, 12:33 PM

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how much per gram? tasty or not?
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QUOTE(surfsmurf @ Dec 21 2011, 12:26 PM)
is orange considered neocaridina shrimp ?
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might be higher grade of cherry.. just another name like fire red, sakura smile.gif

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post Dec 21 2011, 04:18 PM

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What about Yamato?
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post Dec 22 2011, 09:35 PM

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i am planning to get a few after cycling my tank.. Easy to breed? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 23 2011, 08:59 AM

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thinking of dumping my cherry shrimp into a tank with crs n orange shrimp


will they crossbreed n become rojak ?
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post Dec 23 2011, 05:06 PM

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Nice thread there TS. And lovely shrimp you got there!
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post Dec 23 2011, 07:20 PM

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what vegie u feeding them?
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post Dec 23 2011, 09:32 PM

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Sharing some of my CRS~(sorry for the blurr photo)
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post Dec 24 2011, 10:43 AM

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can we eat them?
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post Dec 24 2011, 08:40 PM

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anyone wanna sell some of their CRS at lower market price, quality no good nvm.
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Anyone keeping CRS without a chiller?
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sifus one question here,cherry shrimp and sakura red shrimp are they same ?
can i mix it ?
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post Dec 27 2011, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(SengCheong @ Dec 27 2011, 07:50 PM)
sifus one question here,cherry shrimp and sakura red shrimp are they same ?
can i mix it ?
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yupe, same species.. and they will cross breed

if u wanna have nice color sakura babies, dun mix them

my fire red shrimplets biggrin.gif

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okay,thx bro smile.gif

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I noticed some white colored mosquito larvae like swimming in my shrimp tank. is it planaria ?

I also noticed some white dots floating/swimming...are they shrimplets or dust ?
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post Dec 28 2011, 11:03 AM

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ciohbu,you got use chiller?
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ciohbu, i am a newbie..i plan to start up shrimp. can any1 guide me how to start?

i know nothing about it, and feel geli when the shrimp climb on my hand. but still, i feel wana to keep them.

My tank used for 2months already. inside got 9 guppies, 4otos, 7 tectras, 2 dory and 2 danio. 50 cm tank with 600l/hr filter.

please advise me, sifu~!
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juz dump 10 rcs into my shrimp tank. lazy to keep additional shrimp tank. orange + red cherry i wonder how will look like


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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Dec 29 2011, 08:47 AM)
ciohbu, i am a newbie..i plan to start up shrimp. can any1 guide me how to start?

i know nothing about it, and feel geli when the shrimp climb on my hand. but still, i feel wana to keep them.

My tank used for 2months already. inside got 9 guppies, 4otos, 7 tectras, 2 dory and 2 danio. 50 cm tank with 600l/hr filter.

please advise me, sifu~!
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i think ur tank overstock la...no algae problem ?

u can put shrimp in but don;t expect them to breed coz for fish will makan ur shrimplets

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i jsut have some simple plant which dont really need co2. but plan on a plant tank..kekeke..

but problem is, i duno hw to keep shrimps...please advise lo
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QUOTE(surfsmurf @ Dec 29 2011, 09:59 AM)
juz dump 10 rcs into my shrimp tank. lazy to keep additional shrimp tank. orange + red cherry i wonder how will look like
My shrimp story to share. Must keep this thread active.... tongue.gif

I think I had 'dumped' about 60 RCS into my 26L nano tank in several batches over a few months (top up to replace the missing or dead ones. This excluded the expensive lessons of 15 CRS in 2 batches. One recently addition of a plant which I now suspect of being heavily dozed with copper fert killed all - including my highly entertaining pair of Amanos (a.k.a. Yamatos). cry.gif

From my latest dump of 10 RCS 2 weeks back, I can only find 4 of them at certain times. Other times, cannot see them at all. Too many hiding spots.

This is getting to be a costly exercise for me... sad.gif

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ciohbu, i am a newbie..i plan to start up shrimp. can any1 guide me how to start?

i know nothing about it, and feel geli when the shrimp climb on my hand. but still, i feel wana to keep them.

My tank used for 2months already. inside got 9 guppies, 4otos, 7 tectras, 2 dory and 2 danio. 50 cm tank with 600l/hr filter.

please advise me, sifu~!
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Do you guys use chiller for CRS?
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QUOTE(smobu @ Dec 31 2011, 06:09 PM)
Do you guys use chiller for CRS?
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Nobody answered my same question. Thread starter, ciohbu must be away on holiday... wink.gif

I tried keeping CRS with DIY blower fans with temperature around 27.5 to 28.5 degrees. They all died off one by one within 2-3 weeks. Guess they need around 25 or lower consistently.

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Lemme share some pics of mine - taken today. Please ignore the time stamp. My phone gone 'ki seow' with the date and time.
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QUOTE(mattw @ Dec 31 2011, 11:38 PM)
Nobody answered my same question. Thread starter, ciohbu must be away on holiday...  wink.gif

I tried keeping CRS with DIY blower fans with temperature around 27.5 to 28.5 degrees. They all died off one by one within 2-3 weeks. Guess they need around 25 or lower consistently.
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don't think it's temp problem. i'm keeping crs with fan too but i hear diff to breed. of coz with chiller better n breed ezly
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QUOTE(mattw @ Jan 1 2012, 12:15 AM)
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Are those eggs?

Beautiful creatures. smile.gif
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QUOTE(surfsmurf @ Jan 1 2012, 11:30 PM)
don't think it's temp problem. i'm keeping crs with fan too but i hear diff to breed. of coz with chiller better n breed ezly
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So, what are your pH, KH ad GH values? Are your CRSs doing fine for at least a month? If I can keep them alive for at least 6 months (from average lifespan of 2 years), I will not complain. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jan 2 2012, 03:46 AM)
Are those eggs?

Beautiful creatures.  smile.gif
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If you are referring to the background, they are not eggs but fabric mesh to grow my wall of Christmas Moss. tongue.gif

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nice kiddy there. hehe. this one make a good 'friend' with my puffer. lol

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QUOTE(desmond @ Dec 28 2011, 07:53 PM)

ciohbu, how come ur umbrella plant grow horizontal 1?? how to make it grow horizontal??
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hmmm.. one tips is try to plant them with root slightly out of the soil... hahaa..
i have one group growing like that, another group stay low and u can't see their root:D

QUOTE(cute_miao @ Dec 29 2011, 08:47 AM)
ciohbu, i am a newbie..i plan to start up shrimp. can any1 guide me how to start?

i know nothing about it, and feel geli when the shrimp climb on my hand. but still, i feel wana to keep them.

My tank used for 2months already. inside got 9 guppies, 4otos, 7 tectras, 2 dory and 2 danio. 50 cm tank with 600l/hr filter.

please advise me, sifu~!
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most important is a mature tank, pay attention to PH and GH smile.gif don't really recommend to keep neocaridina or any shrimp with fish, unless ur tank are big and heavily planted

ur 50cm tank sound abit overcrowded... too dangerous wink.gif

QUOTE(smobu @ Dec 31 2011, 06:09 PM)
Do you guys use chiller for CRS?
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i using normal 8cm fan only.. temp around 28-29C... but if u keeping more sensitive species such as CRS (caridina)... chiller is recommended
cheers ~~

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QUOTE(mattw @ Jan 2 2012, 10:04 AM)
If you are referring to the background, they are not eggs but fabric mesh to grow my wall of Christmas Moss.  tongue.gif
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No, I was referring to those tiny dots on your little prawn legs.
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ah, thanks for the insight.

definitely a very beautiful creature. smile.gif
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i have planaria in my shrimp tank

why only happen in shrimp tank ?

need to get rid of it ?
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Oh my god~~ finally got this thread!! Thanks TS for your effort!!! I got a Fire red.. now pregnant!! now it's already 1 week liao.... hopefully i can get more shrimplets in next 3 weeks.. wahahahahaha!!1

I also have CRS pregnant mama... but died 2 days ago... i am using artificial egg hatching.. hope they can survive.. If you all don't know how to do it.. here is the SOURCE

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QUOTE(surfsmurf @ Jan 4 2012, 09:07 AM)
i have planaria in my shrimp tank

why only happen in shrimp tank ?

need to get rid of it ?
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if u have fish, planaria is their snack tongue.gif

anyway, we often confused btw Rhabdocoela and Planaria, unless u really sure urs are planaria, i would say they are Rhabdocoela

Rhabdocoela can go down in numbers with decreasing the amount off food you provide or adding some small fish like Hyphessobrycon Amandae, that will eat them.

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QUOTE(TianYin86 @ Jan 4 2012, 09:11 AM)
Oh my god~~ finally got this thread!! Thanks TS for your effort!!! I got a Fire red.. now pregnant!! now it's already 1 week liao.... hopefully i can get more shrimplets in next 3 weeks.. wahahahahaha!!1

I also have CRS pregnant mama... but died 2 days ago... i am using artificial egg hatching.. hope they can survive.. If you all don't know how to do it.. here is the SOURCE
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nice.. keep us updated on the hatching.. but bcareful if u have snail, they will suck and kill those egg smile.gif

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the artificial hatching are the same way as hatching baby brine shrimp
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Rhabdocoela and Planaria looks the same. how to differentiate the two ?

I dun plan to keep fish coz i wanna breed those shrimps

if keep galaxy rasbora ok ?
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QUOTE(surfsmurf @ Jan 5 2012, 09:03 AM)
Rhabdocoela and Planaria looks the same. how to differentiate the two ?

I dun plan to keep fish coz i wanna breed those shrimps

if keep galaxy rasbora ok ?
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If not mistaken planaria head is in triangle shape.. N got eyes one..

http://islandwood.org/kids/stream_health/m...s/Planaria.html
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happy to tell ya'all that after about 2 months of keeping 3 adult red...i now have 11 more babies..and the 2 adults are berried again!
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anyone have CRS for sale.. heheee.. want to try again to breed crs.. until now only able to breed cherry and fire red..
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No need to feed that often actually..if ur tank have plants and mature d

I feed them once every week or every 2 weeks
Make sure to remove extra food after few hrs..unless u feeding them with vege smile.gif
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QUOTE(desmond @ Jan 9 2012, 10:39 AM)
wah great!

how many times u feed ur shrimp a week??
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like twice a week or so but i also replace some water every week. Lil fellas are very choosy eater
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Hi, can i put those shrimps in a big glass with marimo without the oxygen tank?
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Hi, can i put those shrimps in a big glass with marimo without the oxygen tank?
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Don't think so :/
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but i ask those people who sell marimo they said can sad.gif .. i wanted to buy shrimps but scare it will die
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ok thanks ^^
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do shrimp need air stone? i plan to put some shrimp together with my rrea red guppy. and the tank has no filter nor air stone, is it alright? only got some plant.. not planted tank..
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QUOTE(hello vintage @ Jan 17 2012, 12:15 AM)
but i ask those people who sell marimo they said can sad.gif .. i wanted to buy shrimps but scare it will die
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Hello,

I bought 1 super giant marimo and giant marimo. and place them together. I don't have any problem with that. I would also recommend you to use bigger tank. Last time i use 15x 15 x 15 cm tank to keep CRS... very hard to maintain water quality...

then after that change to 1 feet tank with chiller... for CRS and Fire Red.... shrimps still die one by one...

Now, changed to 2ft tank... wahahaha.. now they are so happy with their new bungalow.. biggrin.gif


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do shrimp need air stone? i plan to put some shrimp together with my rrea red guppy. and the tank has no filter nor air stone, is it alright? only got some plant.. not planted tank..
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If got shrimps, i think better you buy a filter.

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QUOTE(edmund90 @ Jan 19 2012, 02:57 AM)
do shrimp need air stone? i plan to put some shrimp together with my rrea red guppy. and the tank has no filter nor air stone, is it alright? only got some plant.. not planted tank..
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absolutely not. they wont last long.
can i put you and some other ppl inside a room with no window or fan, give you 3meals a day?

By the way, anyone has fire red to sell? i need 10 pcs. higher grade better. Pm me with price if you wanted to sell. Thx
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QUOTE(weijie @ Jan 19 2012, 09:39 AM)
absolutely not. they wont last long.
can i put you and some other ppl inside a room with no window or fan, give you 3meals a day?

By the way, anyone has fire red to sell? i need 10 pcs. higher grade better. Pm me with price if you wanted to sell. Thx
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Weijie,

You wait ya.. my fire red start to breed.... wait until i got 1000 pieces (sounds familiar boh???)... hahahaha tongue.gif
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QUOTE(weijie @ Jan 19 2012, 09:39 AM)
absolutely not. they wont last long.
can i put you and some other ppl inside a room with no window or fan, give you 3meals a day?

By the way, anyone has fire red to sell? i need 10 pcs. higher grade better. Pm me with price if you wanted to sell. Thx
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so u mean if the tank got sponge filter + fan then will b better? forget to mention the tank is keep indoor & sometimes got on aircond.. ><!!
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QUOTE(TianYin86 @ Jan 19 2012, 09:51 AM)
Weijie,

You wait ya.. my fire red start to breed.... wait until i got 1000 pieces (sounds familiar boh???)... hahahaha tongue.gif
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ok no problem, i will go your place to do the counting ! tongue.gif

QUOTE(edmund90 @ Jan 19 2012, 10:27 AM)
so u mean if the tank got sponge filter + fan then will b better? forget to mention the tank is keep indoor & sometimes got on aircond.. ><!!
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best if you could provide sponge filter, fan if water temperature too high.
sometimes got aircond << meaning you might have temperature swing. Will the water be very very cold when aircond is turn on>?
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shrimp is more sensitive than fish...

if u wanna keep pets, be responsible, provide them a comfortable home smile.gif

happy CNY ....
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QUOTE(weijie @ Jan 19 2012, 10:32 AM)
best if you could provide sponge filter, fan if water temperature too high.
sometimes got aircond << meaning you might have temperature swing. Will the water be very very cold when aircond is turn on>?
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not sure, din check the temp.. maybe i shud try with 1 or 2 shrimp 1st... any1 selling shrimp in cheras area? prefer red color...
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anyone selling red fire shrimps? pm me please.
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Is it possible to add White Cloud Mountain Minnow with Amano and Fire Red Shrimps?
im thinking to add them with my shrimps and cardinal tetras.
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Is it possible to add White Cloud Mountain Minnow with Amano and Fire Red Shrimps?
im thinking to add them with my shrimps and cardinal tetras.
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I have them together in my nano tank - they don't bother one another.
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okay thanks! might try out and hope they work out fine smile.gif
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cardinal tetras will attack ur fire red if ur tank is too small and no place to hide smile.gif
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so far my cardinals work well together with my shrimps smile.gif
Just concern about the white cloud minnows as i never have them before.
Just bought some minnows today, will see how they work together biggrin.gif
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Has anyone tried CRS without chiller before?Temp around 26-28c?Can they survive?
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2 of my firered died yday

b4 they die they shot all over the tankl like being possessed and drop dead

any idea why ? the yamato no problem


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Has anyone tried CRS without chiller before?Temp around 26-28c?Can they survive?
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i got 6 a few months ago. now only left one

i don't think i will get anymore CRS

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2 of my firered died yday

b4 they die they shot all over the tankl like being possessed and drop dead

any idea why ? the yamato no problem


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i got 6 a few months ago. now only left one

i don't think i will get anymore CRS
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check your temperature, ph and ammonia level
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Update, my artificial only my fire red can survive, but my CRS eggs was eaten or sploit by one of my CRS.

Here is my latest shrimp photos

hope you all like it..

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Hehe, but i found 2 CRS is pregnant again~~ Happy~~
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Nico:
Great job !! Glad to see you had successful breeding shrimplets.
You are keeping fire red and CRS in 2feet tank?
what is the grade of CRS? A? S?
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QUOTE(weijie @ Feb 2 2012, 02:53 PM)
Nico:
Great job !! Glad to see you had successful breeding shrimplets.
You are keeping fire red and CRS in 2feet tank?
what is the grade of CRS? A? S?
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THanks Thanks blush.gif Ya, keeping both in 2 ft tank. er, A and S mixed o... biggrin.gif
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Update, my artificial only my fire red can survive, but my CRS eggs was eaten or sploit by one of my CRS.

Here is my latest shrimp photos

hope you all like it..




How much you bought the CRS? do you really have chiller for them?

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QUOTE(naoki666 @ Feb 2 2012, 10:10 PM)
QUOTE(TianYin86)
Update, my artificial only my fire red can survive, but my CRS eggs was eaten or sploit by one of my CRS.

Here is my latest shrimp photos

hope you all like it..

How much you bought the CRS? do you really have chiller for them?
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CRS, some RM8 and some RM4... ya.. i got a chiller for them. Hailea one..
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Temperature? 26C?
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Temperature? 26C?
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24C
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reopen my ordering untill 11 Feb, let me know if you all need anything

ETA will be 2nd week of Mac, visit my page for more info ya smile.gif
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QUOTE(surfsmurf @ Feb 2 2012, 10:59 AM)
2 of my firered died yday

b4 they die they shot all over the tankl like being possessed and drop dead

any idea why ? the yamato no problem
Sounds like what had happened to mine at one time - after I added some plants to the tank. I figured it was due to copper poisoning from the leftover ferts on the new plants. My entire shrimp colony (RCS and Yamato) was wiped out. sad.gif

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there are few reason why shrimp will swim all over the tank

1st, sudden change in water parameter or poisoning

2nd ...male are ready to mate, usually when female shrimp just moulted
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Did a ph test. Result is 5.0

Did 30% wc and added some coral chip

Next day ph was 5.5
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coral chip will raise ur GH too.. bcareful
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QUOTE(TianYin86 @ Feb 3 2012, 09:47 AM)
CRS, some RM8 and some RM4... ya.. i got a chiller for them. Hailea one..
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Wah.. so cheap RM8~4 I heard some say they worth more than RM10/each (buying from LFS).... think those might be super grade..... (still don't know how to differentiate the grade...)


Hailea one????


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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Feb 3 2012, 03:27 PM)
reopen my ordering untill 11 Feb, let me know if you all need anything

ETA will be 2nd week of Mac, visit my page for more info ya smile.gif
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Is the MAC still on?? can't register....

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QUOTE(naoki666 @ Feb 5 2012, 05:11 PM)
Wah.. so cheap RM8~4 I heard some say they worth more than RM10/each (buying from LFS).... think those might be super grade..... (still don't know how to differentiate the grade...)
Hailea one????


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Is the MAC still on?? can't register....
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for CRS grade and pics, u can refer to here

not sure bout MAC forum oo, seldom lepak there smile.gif

http://www.shrimpkeeping.com/crs_grading.html
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QUOTE(naoki666 @ Feb 5 2012, 05:11 PM)
Wah.. so cheap RM8~4 I heard some say they worth more than RM10/each (buying from LFS).... think those might be super grade..... (still don't know how to differentiate the grade...)
Hailea one????
Ya. You can get it from sazuka or some other breeder from MAC,

Ya, it's HAILEA Chiller HC-150A. wink.gif
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Feb 5 2012, 07:41 PM)
for CRS grade and pics, u can refer to here

not sure bout MAC forum oo, seldom lepak there smile.gif

http://www.shrimpkeeping.com/crs_grading.html
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Ow, Thanks.


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Ya. You can get it from sazuka or some other breeder from MAC,

Ya, it's HAILEA Chiller HC-150A. wink.gif
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Sazuka?

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QUOTE(TianYin86 @ Feb 5 2012, 10:43 PM)
Ya. You can get it from sazuka or some other breeder from MAC,

Ya, it's HAILEA Chiller HC-150A. wink.gif
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ouchhh.. what a big investment ^ ^ how much u got the chiller ?

and i am in the same company with you... i guess ? tongue.gif tongue.gif


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Ow, Thanks.


Added on February 6, 2012, 9:31 pm

Sazuka?
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yupe, sazuka, he is selling shrimp in pet store section icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Feb 6 2012, 09:36 PM)
ouchhh.. what a big investment ^ ^ how much u got the chiller ?

and i am in the same company with you...  i guess ?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif


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yupe, sazuka, he is selling shrimp in pet store section  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Pet store... guess i wont meet or chat with him then biggrin.gif
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hi everyone,

need to ask sumthing.

my tank average temperature is between 29-31 C and i really like to own a few RCS as a CUC for my tank.
how do i lower my tank temperature for the shrimps to thrive happily?

what is the temperature do they require to live happily?

cant afford yet a chiller, so maybe a DIY cooler fan will do? usually how much can it lower the tank temperature? should i use more than one fan?
any DIY user who had successfully made themselves their own cooler fan, plz help me.

one more think, i already put a RCS inside my tank as a test subject for a few days, so far so good..
playing happily but i think i need to do sumthing about the temperature first before putting a few more into it.
is the RCS ok or he is just abnormal since he can withstand the heat?
do i need to try to learn to take care of feeder/ghost shrimps first (since they are cheap) before trying to take care of RCS?

thank you in advance

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diy fan will do, 1 or 2 maybe, too many fans will evaporate your water too fast

how long ur tank cycle ? better let it mature first before putting more shrimp and dun overcrowd ur tank

ghost shrimp are too easy smile.gif and i personally saw they grab and ate one RCS, ghost shrimp are cleaners, they eat everything, so bcareful

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Feb 6 2012, 09:36 PM)
ouchhh.. what a big investment ^ ^ how much u got the chiller ?

and i am in the same company with you...  i guess ?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif


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yupe, sazuka, he is selling shrimp in pet store section  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ya.. i put lots of effort and big investment into my CRS... hehe.. i got it for RM550 for 2nd hand unit... biggrin.gif worth it actually.. hahaha...

same company with me? you mean the chiller ar?
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Ya.. i put lots of effort and big investment into my CRS... hehe.. i got it for RM550 for 2nd hand unit... biggrin.gif worth it actually.. hahaha...

same company with me? you mean the chiller ar?
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wohh.. not bad eh..they got provide warranty?

nope nope.. working company.. lolx
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wohh.. not bad eh..they got provide warranty?

nope nope.. working company.. lolx
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er.. need to get back to the shop loh.. if got any problem. Huh?? how to you know my working company o??
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er.. need to get back to the shop loh.. if got any problem. Huh?? how to you know my working company o??
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i see i see

no la, just saw ur tank and info in sazuka (houseofcrs) facebook page biggrin.gif dun worry, didnt stalk u
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Feb 9 2012, 04:43 PM)
i see i see

no la, just saw ur tank and info in sazuka (houseofcrs) facebook page biggrin.gif dun worry, didnt stalk u
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cheh... how you know i am which one.... hahaha....
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Hey, please becareful if u want to purchase shrimp at pet shop at midvalley.. There are full of planaria in the tank.. N the stuff dont have any knowledge to keep the shrimp..

I told the stuff But he said normally it stay in the soil... And will not effect the shrimp... Sigh... Very speechless la... He wants to act pro then i let he be loh. Then i saw one blue shrimp swim until tenggelam onto the soil and planaria eat the shrimp!! When the shrimp fall on the soil.. More planaria eat it..

Sigh.. I see until i feel like crying like that.. There are new red cherry.. New from the supplier n they r still pack in plastic bag.. Sigh... Got few dead shrimp also...

Just to share with u... I feel really heartbroken when i saw the blue shrimp Being attack by the planaria... cry.gif

After i see the incident.. I just wanna save those fire red in the tank... Then i grab 7... Haha laugh.gif

Remember to check whether ur plastic bag have any planaria or not before u put them into ur lovely tank ya... wub.gif

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ya.. once planaria grab the shrimp... gone case d > <'' by the way, those planaria, can u really see their sharp triangle head and eyes ?? i still havent see a real one b4 (and i hope i will never see one !! biggrin.gif touch wood ~~ )

pet store staff, they only care bout salary at the end of month.. hahaa..

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ya.. once planaria grab the shrimp... gone case d > <''

they only care bout salary at the end of month.. hahaa..
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Ya.. Got 2 dead shrimp with full of planaria.. Sigh... Maybe the shop use this kind of tactic to increase sales? At first i don't plan to buy one.. I see until really wanna cry... Then only decide to take all of the fire red out.. Kakakakaka....
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by the way, those planaria, can u really see their sharp triangle head and eyes ??
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Feb 10 2012, 09:17 PM)
by the way, those planaria, can u really see their sharp triangle head and eyes ??
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Yes.... I know how to differenciate.. Hahahhahahaha biggrin.gif
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Yes.... I know how to differenciate..  Hahahhahahaha biggrin.gif
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teach me !! biggrin.gif hahaa.. is it really like Rhabdocoela ? how bout the size ?
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QUOTE(TianYin86 @ Feb 10 2012, 09:14 PM)
Ya.. Got 2 dead shrimp with full of planaria.. Sigh... Maybe the shop use this kind of tactic to increase sales? At first i don't plan to buy one.. I see until really wanna cry... Then only decide to take all of the fire red out.. Kakakakaka....
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I thought a good way to remove the planaria is to put the shrimp and some small fish like guppy or tetras for few days to remove the planaria from the shrimp before moving the shrimp to the shrimp tank... but most probably the shrimp will be in shock after that... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Feb 10 2012, 09:22 PM)
teach me !!  biggrin.gif hahaa.. is it really like Rhabdocoela ? how bout the size ?
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Really can see its head.. Can see the triangle one.. U can go midvalley pet shop n see loh.. Hahaha


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I thought a good way to remove the planaria is to put the shrimp and some small fish like guppy or tetras for few days to remove the planaria from the shrimp before moving the shrimp to the shrimp tank... but most probably the shrimp will be in shock after that...  rclxub.gif
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U can find the solution in utube. Got tutorial in there.. Ppl use bottle cut cut cut.. Sorry ar.. I donno how to explain how they cut.. N make hole for planaria go in.. Inside have fresh meat to attract planaria..

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saw on youtube, that if you cut planaria into multiple pieces, each and evry part of the cut parts will become an individual planaria?
wtf? or did i just watched some weird gameshow vid with weird creatures being cut in half and that creature is not planaria?

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Feb 12 2012, 02:55 AM)
saw on youtube, that if you cut planaria into multiple pieces, each and evry part of the cut parts will become an individual planaria?
wtf? or did i just watched some weird gameshow vid with weird creatures being cut in half and that creature is not planaria?

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ya, it's planaria. that's why if your tank got planaria. you cannot cut it or squeeze it. later it will multiply more.. that's y we need to catch them.
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wah my little sifu just become the expert in this thread!! amazing. sis, later i wanna keep shrimp.. don't want to donate or guide me kah? hehehe. i will setup the tank this month. maybe next month will need shrimps and some fishes.hehe. need ur guidance for the shrimp one. please help yah...smile.gif
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So can i know what is the best way to kill planaria without harming my shrimp?
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no-planaria powder. NA selling it at about Rm40 per package.
i just went to Alive-aquarium last sunday. Their planaria is about 1cm long and still the owner ignore them. Lol ~ Kesian those shrimps and ppl that actually brought them.
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1cm long $#!$%!@#! thats actually bigger than some young shrimp.. habis....

i think they dun even know that they are.. lolx

p/s: spotted one pregnant fire red this morning biggrin.gif pics later ya
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It is really very very long ~!
damn alot moving around. and even more over dead shrimp body !

ciohbu:
did you test your water ph?
i just brought a ph pen yesterday. Tested result was ph5.7 on 3feet, ph7.1 on 2feet.
Any idea how much of salt i should add to 3feet to bring it up to ph6.0?
and what i have to put to lower ph7.1 to ph6.3 ?
Thanks ~
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how much u buy the ph pen weijie?

do we need manually remove planaria from them?I found some white thing on some of their head...look like planaria for me.I google it, quite lot ppl using planaria to kill them...
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i brought it at Rm100 from another forum.
It is a digital ph pen, very easy to use and handle.
Claim to be maintenance free.

it is impossible for you to catch them one by one bare handed.
Use no-planaria powder to kill them. in my experience, 3 times dosage would clear up the whole population. But the powder is sold in quite huge package, normally is about RM40, enough for use for centuries.
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QUOTE(weijie @ Feb 13 2012, 08:25 AM)
no-planaria powder. NA selling it at about Rm40 per package.
i just went to Alive-aquarium last sunday. Their planaria is about 1cm long and still the owner ignore them. Lol ~ Kesian those shrimps and ppl that actually brought them.
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Ya.. memang kesian them.. and i am the kesian customer also.. i still bought fire red that have planaria inside the tank... hahahaha.... coz wanna save them from the kanasai tank...

last time i bought CRS from lelong (Aquashop), the seller tank also have planaria.. then i inform the seller... the seller macam don't care so much and just ask me put the CRS without taking the planaria in.. very irresponsible seller la...

very sad when see planaria eat the shrimp while the shrimp is still swimming around... then later die cry.gif


Added on February 13, 2012, 12:46 pm
QUOTE(DecemberRose @ Feb 13 2012, 12:46 AM)
So can i know what is the best way to kill planaria without harming my shrimp?
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Maybe you can try this. but i am not sure whether you can catch them all or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saU7S2ybskw

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QUOTE(DecemberRose @ Feb 13 2012, 12:46 AM)
So can i know what is the best way to kill planaria without harming my shrimp?
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No-planaria if u can get it smile.gif

if no u can try this:

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Panacur and Flubenol are medicaments used for de-worming cats, dogs and other pets.

While Flubenol uses as active agent ‘flubendazol’, Panacur uses ‘febendazol’. The components will destroy cell structure of planaria and let them starve after a few days. The drugs are available as powder, pills and liquids. Powder and pills must be dissolved completely in warm water before adding to the tank.

Here is a step by step guide using Panacur:

1) Try to catch as lot of planaria as possible with a planaria trap and remove them from the tank. Remove snails before using Panacur, also.
2) Do your weekly water change (20-30%) and remove as much detritus (=biological waste) as you can.
3) Add the medicament. Prefer to do under-dosing more than overdosing! One pill Panacur KH 250 (with 250 mg Fenbendazol) is sufficient for 432 liters. Check out the table below and only calculate with the nett water volume of your tank!
4) After 5 days change 30-50% water and repeat the treatment and dose Panacur second time.
5) After 5 days, do another water change (30-50%) and filter with carbon to extract the leftover of medicament.


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QUOTE(weijie @ Feb 13 2012, 10:21 AM)
It is really very very long ~!
damn alot moving around. and even more over dead shrimp body !

ciohbu:
did you test your water ph?
i just brought a ph pen yesterday. Tested result was ph5.7 on 3feet, ph7.1 on 2feet.
Any idea how much of salt i should add to 3feet to bring it up to ph6.0?
and what i have to put to lower ph7.1 to ph6.3 ?
yo weijie
hmmm, to raise ph i think better use air pump smile.gif coral can do that but it will increase ur GH pula > <

to lower ph, try to use peat.. i think eheim got
if no u can try "daun ketapang" or almond leaves or black water, ppl like to use them with betta one... but i dun think u will like the color of water after that.. hahaa

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QUOTE(DecemberRose @ Feb 13 2012, 10:46 AM)

how much u buy the ph pen weijie?

do we need manually remove planaria from them?I found some white thing on some of their head...look like planaria for me.I google it, quite lot ppl using planaria to kill them...
they are not planaria, but are one type of parasite, they just "tumpang" on shrimp head

try compare with the video



i always give them a salt water bath (aquarium salt + water) for around 10sec.. specially newly bought shrimp before putting them in my tank biggrin.gif those parasite will just fall down

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post Feb 13 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Feb 13 2012, 05:58 PM)
they are not planaria, but are one type of parasite, they just "tumpang" on shrimp head

try compare with the video



i always give them a salt water bath (aquarium salt + water) for around 10sec.. specially newly bought shrimp before putting them in my tank biggrin.gif those parasite will just fall down
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Ya, my fire red got it also.. Sometimes i just put some salt into my tank..
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hi to all sifu ut there,

i just bought 2 guppy and 5 tetra.

i heard shrimp also can added inside, and they help to clean up too?

may i ask which shrimp does that ?
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Now i so confuse whether mine is planaria or the parasite. Will take the picture and share with you all later.
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post Feb 16 2012, 07:58 AM

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sharing a post from UK

his shrimp population (£300-400 worth of livestock) got wide off after adding some new plants, found it was some poisoning, so pls read thru ya

i am not sure where malaysia lfs import their plants ... might be from singapore too..

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the reason are:
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I can confirm the following information has been provided by the farms in Singapore who supply plants to the UK market. This information has been consulted on with respected persons in the UK industry.

Phytosanitary certification requires the plants to be free of pests and disease prior to export to the receiving country. The methods applied are as follows – information supplied per farm:

Our premium plants are dipped in BUPROFEZIN (0.01%) & TRICHLORFON (0.08%) for the duration 120 minutes

Our primary supplier for standard plants dip in IMIDACLOPRID 18.3% V/V (0.005%) for 45 minutes

Our second supplier for standard plant range dip in IMIDACLOPRID 18.3% V/V (0.005%) for 60 minutes

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TRICHLORFON <http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC33346>
Chlorophos insecticides are highly toxic organophosphate insecticides and cause damage to the nervous system ("anti-cholinesterase compounds"), so you would expect to see shrimp "staggering" about before dying. They are non-systemic, so shouldn't end up in the plant.

BUPROFEZIN It is an "Insect Growth Regulator", which means that it would stop crustaceans shedding their skins (it interrupts chitin synthesis), so it could cause death in the longer term.

IMIDACLOPRID, is a systemic, neonicotinoid insecticide and would remain in the plant for some time. Neonicotonoids are suspected of causing a lot of the decline of insect biodiversity in Europe and the USA, and a really not the sort of compound you would want anywhere near your shrimps.

IMIDACLOPRID has low toxicity to fish, but is highly toxic to crustaceans, in conc. as low as 1 ppb for Mysis shrimp. "Products containing imidacloprid may be very toxic to aquatic invertebrates." "The half-life in water is much greater than 31 days at pH 5, 7 and 9". from Kidd & James (1991) The Agrochemicals Handbook, Third Edition. Royal Society of Chemistry Information Services, Cambridge, UK.


precaution if u adding new plants

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Our recommendation will be that all plants from ANY supplier should be quarantined in Alkaline water for a minimum of 2 hours to 48 hours, then finally rinsed in tap water prior to addition to any tank with livestock present. Please note - we say a MINIMUM of 2 hours and suggest that 48 hours be better... don't forget to perform water changes when appropriate.

Alkaline water can be easily made using caustic soda or hydrogen peroxide mixed with water until the pH reaches 8.5. Remember to wash your plants in tap water as a final preparation before they go in your tank.


http://www.plantedtanks.co.uk/plants-and-pesticides-17-w.asp
http://www.ukaps.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=19481
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another great pic on bacteria infection

look like a worm right ? its not tongue.gif

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Wow... something new.. I have few worm like thing at my RCS tank and it is super small and white color, I can't identify what the hack it is ... but the size is close to the one in chiobu's clip... anyway to remove the "parasite"? funny thing is those parasite only move around the plant.. not attacking or hitch any RCS..
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naoki, i believe those super small white color thingy due to excess of food... u may try to reduce the food supply or for extreme case, do masive water change... i believe it'll help...
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QUOTE(z8net @ Feb 21 2012, 09:13 AM)
naoki, i believe those super small white color thingy due to excess of food... u may try to reduce the food supply or for extreme case, do masive water change... i believe it'll help...
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But i don't think it will really lower the amount.. as i see some of them might feed on the dead plant or something on the gravel.. tried 2-3 days without feeding the RCS but still see the white thing moving around.. but usually worst or the white thing population boost after 1 day of over feeding..
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Hi,

I just lost all my CRS!....they just disappeared from my tank...thought hiding under the wood where I have planted the grass.

I was moving the wood and found the white kinda of insect, tiny and swimming around.

Could this be the one eating up my CRS? so sad now had about around 50 of them and had babies too!

If it is the problem, how to get rid of it?

And worse is I bought almost all CRS and plants from PETSHOP IN MV!!!! DAMN

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post Feb 21 2012, 11:44 PM

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^ care to explain or post pics of the swimming insect? easier for the sifus to help you hehe
> this is just a guess, since im not expert in this kind of hobby haha,
maybe its dragonfly or damsel nymphs? or planaria? or cyclops?
or daphnia? hydra could pose harmful to fish and shrimp fries too.

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Feb 21 2012, 11:44 PM)
^ care to explain or post pics of the swimming insect? easier for the sifus to help you  hehe
> this is just a guess, since im not expert in this kind of hobby haha,
maybe its dragonfly or damsel nymphs? or planaria? or cyclops?
or daphnia? hydra could pose harmful to fish and shrimp fries too.

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It swims fast and hide...so I catch them with the net. However, it looks like centipede though, tiny n white in colour.
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post Feb 22 2012, 12:42 PM

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Try these:
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Hope it helps

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Found few more in the tank...where this came from?

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QUOTE(TianYin86 @ Feb 10 2012, 11:06 PM)
Really can see its head.. Can see the triangle one.. U can go midvalley pet shop n see loh.. Hahaha


Added on February 10, 2012, 11:09 pm

U can find the solution in utube. Got tutorial in there.. Ppl use bottle cut cut cut.. Sorry ar.. I donno how to explain how they cut.. N make hole for planaria go in.. Inside have fresh meat to attract planaria..
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Ah.. I'll try it thanks, clips looks convincing hahaha.. but not sure will work or not...

QUOTE(lily64my @ Feb 23 2012, 09:28 PM)
Found few more in the tank...where this came from?
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OMG... Damselfly nymph? is't that thing kill all the small fishes...? better remove it..
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so ure fishes are located in a pond? or by the window?
Oh Noes~ Thats a feisty little predator shakehead.gif
Sadly wildlife and ornamental fish & shrimps often don't get on well with each other i guess


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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Feb 24 2012, 12:15 AM)
so ure fishes are located in a pond? or by the window? Oh Noes~ Thats a feisty little predator  shakehead.gif
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From my case.. i think i got it from LFS plant.. i'm suspecting it because the plant they sold in the aquarium is open air which mosquito or damselfly might lay eggs in it for some time... just throw it away or you can keep it as new pet smile.gif feed lil fish to it and see how it grows...
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QUOTE(naoki666 @ Feb 24 2012, 12:11 AM)
Ah.. I'll try it thanks, clips looks convincing hahaha.. but not sure will work or not...
OMG... Damselfly nymph? is't that thing kill all the small fishes...? better remove it..
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Is that what it is called? ITS DAMN! cry.gif Eaten all my CRS.
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Does anYone know where to get wholesale sinking pellet??
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which is better, sinking pallets or algae wafers?

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QUOTE(lily64my @ Feb 24 2012, 09:56 AM)
Is that what it is called? ITS DAMN!  cry.gif Eaten all my CRS.
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I'm not pro in identifying but they look very similar to me look for damselfly nymph, try look for image in google and compare it tongue.gif. But seriously... that thing has eaten all you CRS??? wow.... that is a huge lost.... heard those are carnivore.

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QUOTE(naoki666 @ Feb 26 2012, 12:04 AM)
I'm not pro in identifying but they look very similar to me look for damselfly nymph, try look for image in google and compare it tongue.gif. But seriously... that thing has eaten all you CRS??? wow.... that is a huge lost.... heard those are carnivore.
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Do you know where it came from?
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Damselfly nymph from damselfly and dragonfly nymph from dragonfly? tongue.gif you usually get it from pond or lake, what i mean is if you often use net to catch wild fish from abandon pond or abandon lake, there is a very high chance you find those. Especially when you see dragonfly or damselfly flying around..

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Kindda scary when RCS start multiplying... 1 feet aquarium having about 10-20 shrimplet... more coming...

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QUOTE(naoki666 @ Feb 26 2012, 09:12 PM)
Damselfly nymph from damselfly and dragonfly nymph from dragonfly? tongue.gif  you usually get it from pond or lake, what i mean is if you often use net to catch wild fish from abandon pond or abandon lake, there is a very high chance you find those. Especially when you see dragonfly or damselfly flying around..

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Kindda scary when RCS start multiplying... 1 feet aquarium having about 10-20 shrimplet... more coming...
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Thanks for explaining. Plenty dragonfly around my home especially around my big pond downstairs!
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hi sifu sifu sekalian. i want to clarify this problem ah. why got this worm look like earthworm but not earthworm exist in my tank wan? somemore so big.



and ah. sometime my tank's wall got some white mini telur with a layer of protection dont know is mucus or whatever. is that snail egg or worm egg?

how to get rid these problem ah? i headache now because my tank is full of shrimplet and im so scare they will harm my precious shrimplet
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wah~ so long~ already geli too me..
flat worm/plamaria?
it if is, i think all the sifu wil agree you need to remove it ouside from ure tank by picking one by one or trapping it,
dont slice or kill it inside ure tank hehe

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QUOTE(harryleong @ Feb 27 2012, 03:38 AM)
hi sifu sifu sekalian. i want to clarify this problem ah. why got this worm look like earthworm but not earthworm exist in my tank wan? somemore so big.



and ah. sometime my tank's wall got some white mini telur with a layer of protection dont know is mucus or whatever. is that snail egg or worm egg?

how to get rid these problem ah? i headache now because my tank is full of shrimplet and im so scare they will harm my precious shrimplet
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I remember reading about trapping this worm/leech by puting in drinking bottle in the tank. This bottle must have some holes in them so the worm/leech crawl in. Put in some meat for bait. Bottle must hv water in them too.

Or you need to migrate all your shrimps or shrimplets into another container then clean up your tank as the mucus is snails eggs....

Good luck!

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^ I agree with that hehe

also i saw this in mutiple websites:

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The Siamese algae eater is even said to eat planarian worms, making them ideal additions to any tank infested with such worms. 
not sure if it wil help though
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This is not plaramia... Is some kind of leech
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QUOTE(lily64my @ Feb 26 2012, 09:38 PM)
Thanks for explaining. Plenty dragonfly around my home especially around my big pond downstairs!
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Hahaha... you have to cover your aquarium then.. high chances for the dragonfly or damselfly to lay eggs in open aquarium...


QUOTE(harryleong @ Feb 27 2012, 03:38 AM)
hi sifu sifu sekalian. i want to clarify this problem ah. why got this worm look like earthworm but not earthworm exist in my tank wan? somemore so big.



and ah. sometime my tank's wall got some white mini telur with a layer of protection dont know is mucus or whatever. is that snail egg or worm egg?

how to get rid these problem ah? i headache now because my tank is full of shrimplet and im so scare they will harm my precious shrimplet
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The way it moves looks like leech to me.. The white mucus layer.... sure is snail egg or worm egg? did you over feed? if yes.. probably those are certain ingredient in the food you throw in might cause fungus bloom.. happen to me cause i thought snail egg or something.. but the "patch" will grow bigger.. you need to remove or scrap it, most importantly.. feed lesser.. will help smile.gif that if the "patch" isn't egg... haha if those are egg.. just remove or scrap it tongue.gif
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QUOTE(naoki666 @ Feb 27 2012, 11:01 PM)
Hahaha... you have to cover your aquarium then.. high chances for the dragonfly or damselfly to lay eggs in open aquarium...
The way it moves looks like leech to me.. The white mucus layer.... sure is snail egg or worm egg? did you over feed? if yes.. probably those are certain ingredient in the food you throw in might cause fungus bloom.. happen to me cause i thought snail egg or something.. but the "patch" will grow bigger.. you need to remove or scrap it, most importantly.. feed lesser.. will help smile.gif that if the "patch" isn't egg... haha if those are egg.. just remove or scrap it tongue.gif
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I can confirm those are eggs. If it was food that grow fungus I can see it clearly it have alot of white lines all around it. I'm feeding rm3x sink pellet and my shrimps will even actually finish them everytime. I have like 6x-7x babies now. Actually the leech is not harming my shrimps. It's just that it look so gross
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QUOTE(harryleong @ Feb 28 2012, 12:24 AM)
I can confirm those are eggs. If it was food that grow fungus I can see it clearly it have alot of white lines all around it. I'm feeding rm3x sink pellet and my shrimps will even actually finish them everytime. I have like 6x-7x babies now. Actually the leech is not harming my shrimps. It's just that it look so gross
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Take note that the leech will harm small shrimplets. It is best to clean the whole tank.
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QUOTE(harryleong @ Feb 28 2012, 12:24 AM)
I can confirm those are eggs. If it was food that grow fungus I can see it clearly it have alot of white lines all around it. I'm feeding rm3x sink pellet and my shrimps will even actually finish them everytime. I have like 6x-7x babies now. Actually the leech is not harming my shrimps. It's just that it look so gross
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Good luck removing them then.. or until you find the mature or the snail that lays it...
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how to differentiate high grade and normal grade RCS?
high grade is sakura?
where to buy cheap low grade RCS?

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higher grade RCS are often named sakura, fire red

yellow fire, chocolate are also from RCS

low grade or normal RCS are quite easy to get, their color not that nice, some even close to transparent with small red patches around body, low grade RCS male are even more transparent than female one, but dun get confuse with ghost shrimp ya tongue.gif

wild neocaridina is another story
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no wonder my RCS cant breed hehe
all females in my tank hehe

thanx for the info ciohbu

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how to remove snails from the shrimp tank? tired already to remove it manually? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(flipmode @ Feb 29 2012, 08:59 AM)
how to remove snails from the shrimp tank? tired already to remove it manually?  icon_question.gif
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Get a snail trap.
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is snail trap expensive? i nvr seen one hehe tongue.gif
how effective compared to using snail assasin and cucumber?

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Feb 29 2012, 09:05 AM)
is snail trap expensive? i nvr seen one hehe  tongue.gif
how effective compared to using snail assasin and cucumber?

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it works sth like a roach trap. U place a bait in it and they go into the trap, after sometime u will have to remove the trap.
Or u can get a dario-dario and dwarf puffer to eat all the snails...but ur shrimps will be in danger.
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puffer too dangerous for my tank hehe...gobble2 my shrimps & fishes
thanx for the info

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Feb 29 2012, 09:18 AM)
puffer too dangerous for my tank hehe...gobble2 my shrimps & fishes
thanx for the info

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Sure no problem. smile.gif

Hehe share some of my cherries.

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^ it seemed you got a big shrimp infestation + outbreak in ure tank, notworthy.gif
i recommend you to sell them to me haha jk jk laugh.gif

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Wow... nice RCS... mine mostly baby... 1/2 year to fill my 1ft aquarium.

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my female fire red decided to molt while pregnant.. and some egg stick on the molted shell > <

now trying artificial hatching
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Mar 1 2012, 09:33 PM)
huhu

my female fire red decided to molt while pregnant.. and some egg stick on the molted shell > <

now trying artificial hatching
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How is ur hatching rate for artificial hatching? do share some reviews~ rclxms.gif
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How is ur hatching rate for artificial hatching? do share some reviews~ rclxms.gif
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first time.. lolx..

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first time.. lolx..
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Mar 2 2012, 12:59 AM)
first time.. lolx..
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day 3 .. no sign of hatching, but d spotted few of their bro/sis that hatched naturally

i just hang the bag near outflow (not directly in front) to keep water flowing, hopefully those egg are still alive

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bro, mind sharing what type of bag ure using to hold those eggs?
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bro, mind sharing  what type of bag ure using to hold those eggs?
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tea bag.. hahaa. u can get them in jusco tongue.gif
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hehe, i thought it will be high tech micro nylon bag that those scientist use to produce green algae.. haha
err the teabag is empty? how much? im still looking for a medium to put my granulated activate carbon.

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yupe.. empty.. forget how much

this one also will grow green algae.. lol.. if u put at one side long enough, it will turn green color
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wah i never tried artificial breed. any idea when will painted fire red baby have the true colour? my painted fire red babies colour just like cherry shrimp yawn.gif
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wah i never tried artificial breed. any idea when will painted fire red baby have the true colour? my painted fire red babies colour just like cherry shrimp yawn.gif
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Frm my experience, So far all my super fire red babies are born with the fire red. If they are born with color which are nt so intense. Maybe u can try to cross them back to some vivid color shrimps. then ur off spring will ve better colors.
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the artificial hatching failed sad.gif lost few babies there

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Whoa, nice pictures. I used to be interested in these shrimps especially CRS but too bad i dont have space for this. Else i'll have a planted tank with shrimps now.
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Mar 6 2012, 08:41 PM)
the artificial hatching failed sad.gif lost few babies there
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sorry for your loss. I am current trying artificial hatching for my pleco eggs too. haha
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sorry for your loss. I am current trying artificial hatching for my pleco eggs too. haha
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nice.. i am thinking maybe we need to put air pump under the egg and on few hrs per day unsure.gif
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nice.. i am thinking maybe we need to put air pump under the egg and on few hrs per day  unsure.gif
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how did you setup ur hatch net?
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Any1 here selling/giving their 3ft or 4ft tank with cabinet? (area kl/selangor)
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just went NA subang today... bcareful when u buying shrimp there, saw few planaria > < first time saw real planaria... pity those shrimp

the hatch net is actually normal tea beg smile.gif can buy empty one in jusco or any supermarket
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ciohbu,
the planaria is fat? used to get shrimps from them >.<

in my tank got thin white worms(thinner than thread)..some ppl say its planaria, any comments?

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 7 2012, 11:14 PM)
ciohbu,
the planaria is fat? used to get shrimps from them >.<

in my tank got thin white worms(thinner than thread)..some ppl say its planaria, any comments?

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thinner than thread i think is normal worm.. planaria i saw just now are thicker.. and u can really see their TRIANGLE head rclxub.gif rclxub.gif


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Any1 here selling/giving their 3ft or 4ft tank with cabinet? (area kl/selangor)
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NA got few 3ft and 4ft ready stock smile.gif cabinet need to check with them

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^ hurm, i should stop buying shrimps la from them until their planaria issue is solved hehe

wonder how those white worms got into my tank lol...
some are 1cm long but thinner than thread, swimming happily in the water,
some just as big as a speck of dust just stick to the tank wall, moving slowly.. doh.gif

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i saw some small sized yamato in my tank. don't remember getting those size yamato

u think it bred in my tank?
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no-planaria is harmless to shrimps.
i used before and it is very efficient.
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i saw some small sized yamato in my tank. don't remember getting those size yamato

u think it bred in my tank?
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really yamato ? probably ghost shrimp or cherry

what u have in ur tank currently ?
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do you overdose it?
try put air stone and stop co2 supply for 1day
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really yamato ? probably ghost shrimp or cherry

what u have in ur tank currently ?
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it's my old tank. infested with staghorn so i overdose it with excel and dump SAE, otto and yamato inside. some died

I wanted to sell off the tank but the tank seems to be doing ok even if left unattended. no algae etc. so i kept it

don't think i add in any ghost shrimp unless shop gave me ghost instead of yamato

recently added some fire red
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QUOTE(surfsmurf @ Mar 9 2012, 11:37 AM)
it's my old tank. infested with staghorn so i overdose it with excel and dump SAE, otto and yamato inside. some died

I wanted to sell off the tank but the tank seems to be doing ok even if left unattended. no algae etc. so i kept it

don't think i add in any ghost shrimp unless shop gave me ghost instead of yamato

recently added some fire red
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I thought Yamato fry is hard to breed... need salty water right?
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Fin n Green has restocked some nice fire red~
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i got 1 red cherry shrimp is pregnant on my semi planted tank. ( with guppies ). Should i place the shrimp to other tank, breeding case or just left it there? pls advise smile.gif
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i got 1 red cherry shrimp is pregnant on my semi planted tank. ( with guppies ). Should i place the shrimp to other tank, breeding case or just left it there? pls advise  smile.gif
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just sharing some photo of my shrimp..

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green shrimp

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red cherry shrimp

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err...what shrimp is this..accidently bought it last week..
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^ is that bamboo shrimp?
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hi everyone biggrin.gif

i am opening another order for plantedtank items from now until 28march, eta will be last week of April

feel free to pm me or leave a message in my topic in pet store and i will get back to you asap

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Can some one tell me what is the food for CRS ?
What is the favourite food for CRS ?
How many time need to feed CRS in one day.

I am learning how to propagate CRS.

Hope some sifu can advice
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ammonia spike?
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ths was my previous children...

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which moss is best for cherry shrimp breeding tank?
java moss or christmas moss?

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which moss is best for cherry shrimp breeding tank?
java moss or christmas moss?

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no specific plants that is BEST for breeding shrimp

as long as its save for fauna then will be ok for shrimp

what plants u can keep depends on ur tank condition, co2, light icon_rolleyes.gif
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maybe gua. some shrimp stil okay lar, munching for food. but dont seems to have good appetite. dun have ammonia tester. how to cycle the ammonia faster?
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Change 20% water to lower down ammonia.

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my 5 gallon tank temperature is around 30-31C, planning to add cherry shrimps.
planning to buy a fan to reduce to temperature, what size of fan will help?

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QUOTE(wkeongabguide @ Mar 15 2012, 10:54 PM)
my 5 gallon tank temperature is around 30-31C, planning to add cherry shrimps.
planning to buy a fan to reduce to temperature, what size of fan will help?

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size not really important imho...need to see the CFM....
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^mine was like you till
i made a DIY which was very easy and much cheaper compared to retail ones for my current 5G.
currently using x2 8cm diameter DC fans powered using x2 12V AC-DC adapter.
without fans: same like you 29-31
after installing 2fans = 25-26
after overstocking the tank with lots of fishes = 27-28.5 (26 during rainy nights)
*no aircond in my room*

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sorry but whats CFM? =S


Added on March 15, 2012, 11:17 pmwith 2x 8cm diameter fan wont the water evaporate too fast?

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QUOTE(wkeongabguide @ Mar 15 2012, 11:11 PM)
sorry but whats CFM? =S


Added on March 15, 2012, 11:17 pmwith 2x 8cm diameter fan wont the water evaporate too fast?
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CFM = cubic feet/minute, in simple term is the amount of air it moves per minute.

i think the best compromise in term of size vs CFM is still a 12v 8x8x2.5cm DC fan (normal PC ventilation fan)

n about evaporation, i think i read it somewhere, the principle behind cooling an aquarium with a fan is by promoting more evaporation. like wiping sanitizing alcohol on ur hand. when it evaporates, ur hand becomes cool right? so more evaporation = more temperature lowered.

i think water evaporation is a price to pay for cooling an aquarium with fan. my aquarium has a surface area of 16x13 inch, water from my aquarium evaporates approx. 1cm per day. im using a single 8x8x2.5 12v DC fan only. it is suffice to lower my aquarium temp from 30-31 deg C to 25-26 deg C, n sometimes in the morning it can go as low as 24. i dun even hav AC in my room...hehe...

additional reading : read here if u really into DIY

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Mar 16 2012, 10:04 AM)
CFM = cubic feet/minute, in simple term is the amount of air it moves per minute.

i think the best compromise in term of size vs CFM is still a 12v 8x8x2.5cm DC fan (normal PC ventilation fan)

n about evaporation, i think i read it somewhere, the principle behind cooling an aquarium with a fan is by promoting more evaporation. like wiping sanitizing alcohol on ur hand. when it evaporates, ur hand becomes cool right? so more evaporation =  more temperature lowered.

i think water evaporation is a price to pay for cooling an aquarium with fan. my aquarium has a surface area of 16x13 inch, water from my aquarium evaporates approx. 1cm per day. im using a single 8x8x2.5 12v DC fan only. it is suffice to lower my aquarium temp from 30-31 deg C to 25-26 deg C, n sometimes in the morning it can go as low as 24. i dun even hav AC in my room...hehe...

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thanks for the information here~! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
my tank is about 5 gallons, is it enough to lower the temperature by adding only one 8x8x2.5cm DC fan?

thanks! smile.gif


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QUOTE(kurangak @ Mar 16 2012, 10:04 AM)
CFM = cubic feet/minute, in simple term is the amount of air it moves per minute.

i think the best compromise in term of size vs CFM is still a 12v 8x8x2.5cm DC fan (normal PC ventilation fan)

n about evaporation, i think i read it somewhere, the principle behind cooling an aquarium with a fan is by promoting more evaporation. like wiping sanitizing alcohol on ur hand. when it evaporates, ur hand becomes cool right? so more evaporation =  more temperature lowered.

i think water evaporation is a price to pay for cooling an aquarium with fan. my aquarium has a surface area of 16x13 inch, water from my aquarium evaporates approx. 1cm per day. im using a single 8x8x2.5 12v DC fan only. it is suffice to lower my aquarium temp from 30-31 deg C to 25-26 deg C, n sometimes in the morning it can go as low as 24. i dun even hav AC in my room...hehe...

additional reading : read here if u really into DIY
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that is superb DIY rclxms.gif
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Anyone has extra cherry to sell?
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I've observed my newly setup tank and the temperature is between 27-29C..
does this temperature meets the requirement for cherry and fire red shrimps?

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u already install the fan ka wkeongabguide? how much it cost you? mine around 28-29..even in morning didnt drop a degree..
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QUOTE(flipmode @ Mar 19 2012, 08:13 AM)
u already install the fan ka wkeongabguide? how much it cost you? mine around 28-29..even in morning didnt drop a degree..
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yup i installed a diy pc fan for my tank (i didnt buy, its from my old pc smile.gif )
morning the temperature is 27.5C ; noon its abt 29C. is this okayy for shrimps? o.O
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if cherry shrimp..i think its ok..already bought the army for 3 month..but none of it pregnant...why aa?
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QUOTE(flipmode @ Mar 19 2012, 01:12 PM)
if cherry shrimp..i think its ok..already bought the army for 3 month..but none of it pregnant...why aa?
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morning temp

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afternoon temp

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fan position

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i live somewhere in PJ, where temp is blisteringly hot almost 2/3 of the year. n my room faces the sun from 11am to 6pm, everyday.

DC vent fan from old PC = free
AC/DC converter (12V, 2A) (from old laptop i think) = free

so total cost = free biggrin.gif

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if cherry shrimp..i think its ok..already bought the army for 3 month..but none of it pregnant...why aa?


prolly the temp n water parameter is wrong?

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i have a question to all shrimp sifu ,
if my water temperature is alway vary .. night 22 degree and noon 27degree.

because night i on aircon at room and the tank in my room as well.
Will this temperature vary cause my shimp unhealthy ?

I have few shrimp is die and i am a new freebie.
Please advice .


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If i mix fire red with sakura shrimps, will the new born have better colour? like more red? o.O
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If i mix fire red with sakura shrimps, will the new born have better colour? like more red? o.O
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you will improve the quality of the sakura reds.
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bro... ure shrimp colour is getting nicer la...hehe thanx bro..
wonder how ure fire red colour is like.. thumbup.gif

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if cherry shrimp..i think its ok..already bought the army for 3 month..but none of it pregnant...why aa?
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Try not to disturb them often.. just feed them normally and after 1 month you'll see some fresh egg on the saddle.. happened on me.. was wondering for 1 month why I don't see any berries... but just beware after lots of them berried... overstock of aquarium and lost almost 70% of my adult and 40% of shrimplets..


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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 19 2012, 04:59 PM)
bro... ure shrimp colour is getting nicer la...hehe thanx bro..
wonder how ure fire red colour is like..  thumbup.gif

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Wow.. serious?? if like that i'll just get few Red Fire and mix it with my RCS.. drool.gif good reason to get new shrimp since lost quite some amount of adult shrimp...zzz...

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just another shrimps lover.
my tank , feeding time.
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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 19 2012, 04:59 PM)
bro... ure shrimp colour is getting nicer la...hehe thanx bro..
wonder how ure fire red colour is like..  thumbup.gif

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You are welcome bro. Hehe glad you love them rclxms.gif


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Try not to disturb them often.. just feed them normally and after 1 month you'll see some fresh egg on the saddle.. happened on me.. was wondering for 1 month why I don't see any berries... but just beware after lots of them berried... overstock of aquarium and lost almost 70% of my adult and 40% of shrimplets..


Added on March 19, 2012, 10:00 pm
Wow.. serious?? if like that i'll just get few Red Fire and mix it with my RCS..  drool.gif  good reason to get new shrimp since lost quite some amount of adult shrimp...zzz...
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hehe that is another good way to improve the quality of the rcs:)

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where can i get shrimp?? im beginner.. what shrimp i can take care easily//?/
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^ try RCS since they are kinda hardy shrimps and cheap too
if yours they are dying in youre tank, u must have done something really really wrong with your tank ecosystem. also, they breed like rabbits too if they are in good condition.
try ask L3()nZ if he is selling some.

RCS colour grading names:

Cherry Grade

Sakura Grade

High Grade Sakura / Low Grade Fire Red

Fire Red Grade

Painted Fire Red Grade

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where can i get shrimp?? im beginner.. what shrimp i can take care easily//?/
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What shrimp you want? Red Cherry Shrimp the easiest to rear.. some LFS only sell shrimp.. and not all shrimps...
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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 20 2012, 08:07 PM)
^ try RCS since they are kinda hardy shrimps and cheap too
if yours they are dying in youre tank, u must have done something really really wrong with your tank ecosystem. also, they breed like rabbits too if they are in good condition.
try ask L3()nZ if he is selling some.

RCS colour grading names:

    Cherry Grade
   
    Sakura Grade
   
    High Grade Sakura / Low Grade Fire Red
   
    Fire Red Grade
   
    Painted Fire Red Grade
  

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so i try to get RCS? last few week i get CRS and all end out of dying at my tank... and now im going to try RCS.. and roughly how much their cost??


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What shrimp you want? Red Cherry Shrimp the easiest to rear.. some LFS only sell shrimp.. and not all shrimps...
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LFS mean?? and did you know where can i get those shrimp?? and how to take care of them??

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QUOTE(ngweileon @ Mar 20 2012, 09:15 PM)
so i try to get RCS? last few week i get CRS and all end out of dying at my tank... and now im going to try RCS.. and roughly how much their cost??

LFS mean?? and did you know where can i get those shrimp?? and how to take care of them??
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wah...first try already CRS? so much money eh? im not a pro..still begginer like you, can ask other experience gurus in the thread~
After getting ure shrimps, you should acclimitize them first, so they dont get shocked with the new water peremetrs... i didnt do this first time, lost 5 in one go cry.gif
All the neccesary steps of acclimitizing can be found in the first page, water parameter settings and how to take care of them can also be found in the first page too~
LFS = Local fish store/ Local fish shop
Where to find them, most big store lfs sells them but they may selling different grade RCS shrimp with different pricing.
Alternatively, you can buy them in lowyat forum pet store section, which is way more cheaper than buying in LFS.
So far, the average pricing for those RCS grade after surveying in a few place:
Cherry Grade - RM1-2/each

Sakura Grade - RM2-4/each

High Grade Sakura / Low Grade Fire Red - RM3-8/each

Fire Red Grade - RM6-12/each

Painted Fire Red Grade - saw in Singapore, not for sale.. all damn red weh, except joints in the legs food colouring pellets? hmm.gif


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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 20 2012, 09:37 PM)

wah...first try already CRS? so much money eh?  im not a pro..still begginer like you, can ask other experience gurus in the thread~
After getting ure shrimps, you should acclimitize them first, so they dont get shocked with the new water peremetrs... i didnt do this first time, lost 5 in one go  cry.gif
All the neccesary steps of acclimitizing can be found in the first page, water parameter settings and how to take care of them can also be found in the first page too~
LFS = Local fish store/ Local fish shop
Where to find them, most big store lfs sells them but they may selling different grade RCS shrimp with different pricing.
Alternatively, you can buy them in lowyat forum pet store section, which is way more cheaper than buying in LFS.
So far, the average pricing for those RCS grade after surveying in a few place:
    Cherry Grade - RM1-2/each
 
    Sakura Grade - RM2-4/each
 
    High Grade Sakura / Low Grade Fire Red - RM3-8/each
 
    Fire Red Grade - RM6-12/each
 
    Painted Fire Red Grade - saw in Singapore, not for sale.. all damn red weh, except joints in the legs food colouring pellets? hmm.gif

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thx for ur info.. ya.. coz the guy told me CRS is easier than RCS.. then i buy with him.. 10 shrimps and all dying in the next few days.. quite sad and waste..

the steps i know it and mostly i will do it when i bought new fishes and shrimps also.. so what u suggest me to buy on the grade?? and if i buy on lowyat forum... is the quality ok?? coz i cannot view on the shirmps' quality..
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I also try with crs, end up only left 2 in my tank. Will put them for 2 more week. No die will but more to refill
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QUOTE(ngweileon @ Mar 21 2012, 01:13 AM)
so what u suggest me to buy on the grade?? and if i buy on lowyat forum... is the quality ok?? coz i cannot view on the shirmps' quality..
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hurm grade? depends on ure budget la hehe
bought my newest batch (sakura) from the forums...so far quite impressed since their colour is getting redder everyday~
my youngest shrimp in the tank currently, since he is the smallest tongue.gif (ignore the pic and tank quality):

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QUOTE(ngweileon @ Mar 21 2012, 01:13 AM)
thx for ur info.. ya.. coz the guy told me CRS is easier than RCS.. then i buy with him.. 10 shrimps and all dying in the next few days.. quite sad and waste..

the steps i know it and mostly i will do it when i bought new fishes and shrimps also.. so what u suggest me to buy on the grade?? and if i buy on lowyat forum... is the quality ok?? coz i cannot view on the shirmps' quality..
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maybe he tell u the other way round, my first CRS die in 10min after throw the poor fella into an non-cycle tank(noob time). the RCS in that hell tank
fair longer, 20pcs in total,each day 1 or 2 goto heaven till one left and together with a green shrimp both survive till her master graduate from the noob school.
so make sure u cycle the tank and have all the basic/necessary component b4 getting ur shrimp.
beside RCS , green shrimp is quite tough too.

How red is ur RCS beside their own gene & grade also depend on your water parameters. for example at the LFS where i brought the RCS, almost all look pale or colorless in their poor man tank(the staff told me it already >a week they look like that). After i acclimate them into my tank for a day, the red color only show up, got 1 or 2 which are deep red. smile.gif

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@ngweileon:
CRS is way harder to keep if you compare with RCS and cherry.
Thats why they are more expensive !

@LuQEE:
Your sakura looks like cherry more to me. i having hundreds of them inside my 3feet. i just sold about 100 of them to separate buyers.

@L3()nZ:
would you share your experience in keeping these CRS?
most beginners start with CRS instead of RCS. most of CRS ended up dead.
IMHO, CRS must have cold water. maximum temperature it can survive is 28C. And also, they need very stable water parameters. successful CRS keepers monitor water Gh and Kh, as well as Ammonia and nitrate level.
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do you guys put Catappa Leaves in ur CRS shrimps tank?
i don't like the amber water color they produce.
but if benefit > cosmetic outlook, may consider.
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i just got them last week hehe..
most of them have already settle down and start reddening(<--not sure the word)?

btw, how to remove those pink stripe on the middle of the shrimps?
they kinda look weird lol..red body with pink middle line, like racing car haha

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QUOTE(ngweileon @ Mar 20 2012, 09:15 PM)
so i try to get RCS? last few week i get CRS and all end out of dying at my tank... and now im going to try RCS.. and roughly how much their cost??


Added on March 20, 2012, 9:17 pm

LFS mean?? and did you know where can i get those shrimp?? and how to take care of them??
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Local Fish Shop / fish shop around your area. Try AI if you want, I buy 10 one shot and cost about RM15 from Aquatic International and I heard from my brother in law that you can get lower if you get even more or know how to negotiate... haven't try yet.. but very cheap for me compare to getting 10 for RM20 from the LFS around my area.. but of course... they don't care about the redness... so the shrimp varies in color some red some pale... you can try Natural Aquatic too if you want... at SS19 if i'm not mistaken, but heard the tank is infested with planaria....


QUOTE(arrow @ Mar 21 2012, 02:10 PM)
do you guys put Catappa Leaves in ur CRS shrimps tank?
i don't like the amber water color they produce.
but if benefit > cosmetic outlook, may consider.
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Though that is good for Arowana or fighting fish.. biggrin.gif hm.. I can try when i get the mandarin shrimp... might look even orange...
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QUOTE(naoki666 @ Mar 21 2012, 11:47 PM)
Local Fish Shop / fish shop around your area. Try AI if you want, I buy 10 one shot and cost about RM15 from Aquatic International and I heard from my brother in law that you can get lower if you get even more or know how to negotiate... haven't try yet.. but very cheap for me compare to getting 10 for RM20 from the LFS around my area.. but of course... they don't care about the redness... so the shrimp varies in color some red some pale... you can try Natural Aquatic too if you want... at SS19 if i'm not mistaken, but heard the tank is infested with planaria....
Though that is good for Arowana or fighting fish.. biggrin.gif hm.. I can try when i get the mandarin shrimp... might look even orange...
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Natural Aquatic World shrimp tank planaria all gone, the staff there put no-planaria powder to clear it off, but the cherry shrimp all sold out,
only left fire red at rm8 each, color seem ok and some crs/cbs and yamato. Be there yesterday.

The catappa leaf is used by those breeder that supply shrimps to the LFS, the leaf came with the shrimp.

Quote from the net: http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Catappa-Leaf-fo...=item3a657c7bd2

The size for each leave is about 18 to 20 cm length, 9 to 10 cm wide.
Superb for Health, Vitality, and Successful Breeding!

Scientific Name: Terminalia Catappa Leaves
Common Name: Indian Almond Leaves, Tropical Almond Leaves, Sweet Almond Leaves, Wild Almond Leaves, Sea Almond Leaves, Catappa Leaves, Java Almond Leaves, Ketapang Leaves.

We hand picked the leaves from live pesticide-free Catappa trees. The thick and matured leaves are sanitized & sun-baked for 3 days to produce the highest grade product for your beloved fishes. Preparing and sorting these leaves need plenty of time and dedication. Smell them and be amazed by the fragrance.

We also supply to Germany and Spain Catappa resellers. Because of strict quality control, limited stock supply and overwhelming support, we often run out of stock. Right now we are doing our best to increase our production to meet the demand of both resellers and customers.

Indian almond leaves have been widely used by Asian breeders of tropical fish (Angel fish, Arowanas, Cardinals, Corydoras, Discus, Betta etc) to stimulate breeding and promote health and vitality in tropical fish. They love it! We have feedback from customer that her betta is making bubble nest immediately after she placed the first leaf into her tank. Shrimps like to feed on the nutricious leaf after it softens in water. You can add the leaf directly into the tank or may be boiled and the extract to be added into the tank.

Other Benefits

-Simulate black water condition which is the natural environment for the tropical fish and shrimps.
-Cure sick fish of bacterial infections and to help speed up healing of damaged fins or body injuries. However it is not a magic "cure-all", especially when dealing with diseases like dropsy, velvet etc. think of it as more of a preventative medicine.
-Enhance fertility of fishes
-Contain humic acids and tannins which have anti-bacterial & anti-fungal properties.
-Contains chemical that will bind with ammonia in the water.
-Contains calcium needed to activate the muscles and to develop strong bones, teeth and scales.
-Enhances the natural color of the fish
-Lowers the pH of the water and absorbs harmful chemicals.
-Adds essential trace elements to the water.
-Recommended for all fresh water fishes kept in small containers without filters, specially during transportation.
-Dosage: Put one leaf in a 10 - 15 gallon tank. Discard the leaf after 1 week and replace with a new leaf.

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thx all the information sharing with me...
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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 21 2012, 08:04 PM)
i just got them last week hehe..
most of them have already settle down and start reddening(<--not sure the word)?

btw, how to remove those pink stripe on the middle of the shrimps?
they kinda look weird lol..red body with pink middle line, like racing car haha

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u mean the pink stripe at the back of ur shrimp ?

for the ketapang leaf question... other than treating water, shrimp will feed on the bacteria that decomposing ketapang icon_rolleyes.gif
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Anybody went to Singapore LFS that selling shrimp ar?
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Anybody went to Singapore LFS that selling shrimp ar?
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will be going singapore for holiday this weekend.. but dun know which lfs there to go blush.gif blush.gif any recommendation ?
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will be going singapore for holiday this weekend.. but dun know which lfs there to go  blush.gif  blush.gif any recommendation ?
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i just try to search,

North side - Y618 in Yishun
East Side - CRS haven in Tampines
West Side - Green Chapter and C328 in Clementi

People recommend to go CRS haven. Sigh, this weekend going back to my hometown (JB) also.. wish to go SG too. but passport sei jor.. lol... eh.. help me to survey the price. remember take many picture and show us.. muahahahahaa..
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QUOTE(TianYin86 @ Mar 22 2012, 02:52 PM)
i just try to search,

North side - Y618 in Yishun
East Side - CRS haven in Tampines
West Side - Green Chapter and C328 in Clementi

People recommend to go CRS haven. Sigh, this weekend going back to my hometown (JB) also.. wish to go SG too. but passport sei jor.. lol... eh.. help me to survey the price. remember take many picture and show us.. muahahahahaa..
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go renew now.. still can make it.. hahaha

hope they are near to mrt station, cause i going there by bus sad.gif
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go renew now.. still can make it.. hahaha

hope they are near to mrt station, cause i going there by bus sad.gif
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dont go Cxxx. you will regret. waste of time and waste of money sweat.gif
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dont go Cxxx. you will regret. waste of time and waste of money  sweat.gif
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cxxx is like uncle lfs.. hehee.. from other ppl blog
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huh?? cxxxx? you mean the haven ar?
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huh?? cxxxx? you mean the haven ar?
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QUOTE(weijie @ Mar 21 2012, 11:00 AM)
@ngweileon:
CRS is way harder to keep if you compare with RCS and cherry.
Thats why they are more expensive !

@LuQEE:
Your sakura looks like cherry more to me. i having hundreds of them inside my 3feet. i just sold about 100 of them to separate buyers.

@L3()nZ:
would you share your experience in keeping these CRS?
most beginners start with CRS instead of RCS. most of CRS ended up dead.
IMHO, CRS must have cold water. maximum temperature it can survive is 28C. And also, they need very stable water parameters. successful CRS keepers monitor water Gh and Kh, as well as Ammonia and nitrate level.
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I use ADA setup and aircon for cooling. So far...as long as the water is cold they breed. haha
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QUOTE(L3()nZ @ Mar 23 2012, 12:37 AM)
I use ADA setup and aircon for cooling. So far...as long as the water is cold they breed. haha
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haiz cold water. i will start my 2feet CRS tank after i moving !!!
mostly will go for medium lighting plants since more light = more heat.
Anyone got Grade A or Grade S CRS for sale? hehehehe
and also, i am looking for fire reds too smile.gif
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just went to NA today..
there is still planaria (1cm long) in yamato,CRS and fire red tanks.. so beware..
they also resotcked their RCS...but cant find any planaria in them..

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want to ask: ADA brighty K does not harm shrimp rite?
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is chiller a must for CRS?
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want to ask: ADA brighty K does not harm shrimp rite?
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No, as long as you dose according to measurement, and make sure your tank has enough plants to absorb all the ferts

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is chiller a must for CRS?
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CRS must have temperature 28C maximum, normall keeper put 24-26C on CRS tank.
unless your aquarium is inside aircon room, else you need chiller.
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Dammit... who wanna give me a chiller kekekeke
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haha..my tank temperature also rise 2 degree last week..from 28.2°C to 30.5°C...ergh...have to install fan la like this..huhu
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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Mar 24 2012, 09:25 PM)
just went to NA today..
there is still planaria (1cm long) in yamato,CRS and fire red tanks.. so beware..
they also resotcked their RCS...but cant find any planaria in them..

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i also go NA on 24 mar around 8pm, planaria outbreak is on again , guess their egg hatched, that RCS tank got planaria just a bit less.

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any recommendations for brands for chiller?
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i using hailer, seem ok but a bit noisy when it kick-in , not as silent as they claim.
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can i share 2 tank with a chiller?
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i don't c a problem if u can hook 2 tank together and the chiller can handle the load , i'm using hailer 28A , max is 200L. but of course is not advisable
to push to the max capacity as this will reduce the life-span and lead to higher electric .bill.
i should have topup rm300 to get the 400L but my pathetic eheim 2213 just can't handle it.
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can anyone identify this plant? damn suddenly increase my pH in shrimp tank..all the shrimp go carzy flying inside the tank..nearly kill entire colony of the tank. From 6.9 to 8.2..lucky i was able to create another temporary tank with low pH. does certain plant increase water pH or the water from the plant that increase the pH? really terrifying. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(flipmode @ Mar 26 2012, 03:45 PM)
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can anyone identify this plant? damn suddenly increase my pH in shrimp tank..all the shrimp go carzy flying inside the tank..nearly kill entire colony of the tank. From 6.9 to 8.2..lucky i was able to create another temporary tank with low pH. does certain plant increase water pH or the water from the plant that increase the pH? really terrifying. sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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does it looks like any of this plant?
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QUOTE(flipmode @ Mar 26 2012, 03:45 PM)
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can anyone identify this plant? damn suddenly increase my pH in shrimp tank..all the shrimp go carzy flying inside the tank..nearly kill entire colony of the tank. From 6.9 to 8.2..lucky i was able to create another temporary tank with low pH. does certain plant increase water pH or the water from the plant that increase the pH? really terrifying. sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Ahhhhh...

soooo... that's why my shrimp die...

bought few last week... after planting... my cherry and brown bees started to die...

will pull out when I get home...
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might be another cabomba sp. but definitely not c. carolina sp.

or Asian Ambulia/Asian Marshweed (Limnophila sessiliflora) variation? hmm.gif


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btw im not sure if any plant can increase pH lvl... but ammonia does (since it is basic in nature)...

edit:- scratch that...found this, plant DO increase pH lv in water...

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can anyone identify this plant? damn suddenly increase my pH in shrimp tank..all the shrimp go carzy flying inside the tank..nearly kill entire colony of the tank. From 6.9 to 8.2..lucky i was able to create another temporary tank with low pH. does certain plant increase water pH or the water from the plant that increase the pH? really terrifying. sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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never encounter plant alternate PH. some more you buy is those rm2 potless plant. no gravel no soil at all.

i suspect pesticide in the plant or the plant leech some sap/liquid when be cut/damaged during handling that kill your shrimp. try buy some rm1 a bag feeder/grass shrimp. take like 10 and dump in a bucket with that plant. see how they fare.
i keep those feeder/grass shrimp in my crayfish tank with a PH of 8++, they are very very very hardy......an cycling tank with 5.0ppm ammonia and high nitrite also won't kill them ... i still have them and they grow double their size.




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i wish ppl still selling ghost shrimps within my area~
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i wish ppl still selling ghost shrimps within my area~
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are abundant here. some even allow rm0.50 minimum purchase.
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do you mind driving to PJ , if my memory still intact i remember QIAN HU THE PET FAMILY in taman megah PJ selling those feeder shrimp.
u can call them up first to check , in case oldman here, memory lost since i be to a couple of LFS that day b4 i visit Qian Hu.
address : Lot 10991, Jalan SS 24/8, Taman Megah, Petaling Jaya, 47301
03-7805-2342

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i think maybe the water/ sponge that hold the plant have something to do with it. after i soak for about 4 hours in normal tap water, replant in the tank, check back the pH. surprisingly, the pH is 6.9. i got 2 red cherry shrimp die eventhough i change their tank. sad.gif



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i got 1 bigger than harlequin rasbora! hahaha..dont buy la..they will mess up your tank. even eat the plant in your tank.already throw them in the river. only 1 left as a scavenger.

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QUOTE(flipmode @ Mar 27 2012, 07:54 AM)
i think maybe the water/ sponge that hold the plant have something to do with it. after i soak for about 4 hours in normal tap water, replant in the tank, check back the pH. surprisingly, the pH is 6.9. i got 2 red cherry shrimp die eventhough i change their tank. sad.gif
maybe the corrode zinc metal that tying up the sponge may be the cause of it or the little stone that act as the weight wrapped inside the sponge might leaked something?

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i guess so. now the pH maintain at 6.9. will monitor for every 6 hours. 60% of old tank water, 40% new aged water. how long should i wait?


Added on March 29, 2012, 8:00 amnot lucky today...7 of my shrimp gone in a night..i try to put that plant back in the tank..at 1st hour..seem like no problem..but after wake up this mornin..all of them lying in the tank bottom... cry.gif cry.gif


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will nerite snails harm shrimp? wanna add them to clear some algae smile.gif good idea?

any recommendations for carpet plants for shrimp tank without co2? (except mosses and fern)

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will nerite snails harm shrimp? wanna add them to clear some algae smile.gif good idea?

any recommendations for carpet plants for shrimp tank without co2? (except mosses and fern)

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nerite snails won't harm shrimps, but there is claim they laid unhatchable egg all round the tank which are eyesores.
however so far those nerite snail in my tank haven't laid a single eggs , guess maybe they need to grow to certain size.

i remove all glosso , hc , fern from my shrimps tank , only left moss & crypt so can't help u.
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QUOTE(wkeongabguide @ Apr 2 2012, 09:54 PM)
will nerite snails harm shrimp? wanna add them to clear some algae smile.gif good idea?

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Yea you can add nerite snails. Dun worry they are harmless to your shrimps.
Most carpet plants requires bright lighting and high CO2. Unless u go for riccia...but i dun really like them as when the shrimps will unroot them eventually now and then....and it will be floating around the tank. haha this is just my experience.


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can i share 2 tank with a chiller?
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can no problem. Just that the electric bill will increase abit.
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how to share? would you mind post some pictures to explain?
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Rili Shrimp anyone?

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I bought them from king kong melaka
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I bought them from king kong melaka
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how much they cost you?, u first time keeping crs/shrimps?


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Rili Shrimp anyone?
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Rili shrimp , yes they are lovely shrimps, got 10 of those but pesticide in plant weep out 7 of them. tongue.gif

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Huh?? king kong melaka/?
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A famous fish shop in melaka with their arapaima gigas and Arowana.

1st time keeping them, rm10 each..

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A famous fish shop in melaka with their arapaima gigas and Arowana.

1st time keeping them, rm10 each..
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rm10 , cheaper then kl , here around rm15 each.
u not using any shrimps soil? , only saw some black shiny gravel.

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rm10 , cheaper then kl , here around rm15 each.
u not using any shrimps soil? , only saw some black shiny gravel.
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Yup they need it? Where can I get it?
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Yup they need it? Where can I get it?
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ya, is preferable as the soil will buffer the water ph and provide some mineral for the shrimps(depend on soil type).
for shrimps soil ppl using brand GEX , Benibachi , BorneoWild , Advance Help shrimps soil & ADA soil for shrimps.
Normal gravel will do but it depend how u gonna maintain the water parameter suitable for sensitive shrimps like CRS/CBS.
U can't simply purchase those soil and put into ur current tank, some of the soil will leech ammonia which fatal to ur CRS, it
need time to mature and cycled before can be use to house CRS/Shrimps.
May i know ur current tank that house the CRS is new or cycled one?
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ya, is preferable as the soil will buffer the water ph and provide some mineral for the shrimps(depend on soil type).
for shrimps soil ppl using brand GEX , Benibachi , BorneoWild , Advance Help shrimps soil & ADA soil for shrimps.
Normal gravel will do but it depend how u gonna maintain the water parameter suitable for sensitive shrimps like CRS/CBS.
U can't simply purchase those soil and put into ur current tank, some of the soil will leech ammonia which fatal to ur CRS, it
need time to mature and cycled before can be use to house CRS/Shrimps.
May i know ur current tank that house the CRS is new or cycled one?
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New one.. The soil.. It's hard to find at my place..
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I have some. But i dun realli like them....haha lol


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how to share? would you mind post some pictures to explain?
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It's very simple. Bcz some of my tanks are linked by a sharing filter. And the filter is connected to the chiller. So both of tank are sharing the same chiller. But the power output of the chiller will increase as well. Make sure the chiller is build for such capacity when using on linked tanks.


Added on April 4, 2012, 3:47 pmSuper fire red blooming~~~ 5th batch babies are coming up~ Yeppie~

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rm10 , cheaper then kl , here around rm15 each.
u not using any shrimps soil? , only saw some black shiny gravel.
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KL can get cheaper la. Don get it from shops. Get it from breeder. I got it for RM4 per piece for CRS last time, i am lucky because the breeder that time need to move house. that's why need to clear out.. But recently my tank for disaster. died almost half of it. cry.gif


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confirmed plant in my tank been pesticide. my otto eat like they will get paid. i just plant in japanese hairgrass and another plant (i dont know what the name for that plant). already done three time 40% WC, still same. when i put yamato. they swimming like crazy. take out and put in another tank, they work like otto. i dont want to throw that HG away since i bought it at rm16 for 2 pot.

how to clean the pesticide effect? heard that have to soak the plant in alkaline water about 2 to 48 hours.

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yesterday went to NA to buy tubes,
saw alot of big bamboo shrimps under the cichlid tanks.
wonder how can they get their food since they are like plankton feeder am i right?

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QUOTE(flipmode @ Apr 4 2012, 04:28 PM)
confirmed plant in my tank been pesticide. my otto eat like they will get paid. i just plant in japanese hairgrass and another plant (i dont know what the name for that plant). already done three time 40% WC, still same. when i put yamato. they swimming like crazy. take out and put in another tank, they work like otto.  i dont want to throw that HG away since i bought it at rm16 for 2 pot. 

how to clean the pesticide effect?  heard that have to soak the plant in alkaline water about 2 to 48 hours.
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remove the plant from the tank and use activated-carbon in the filters.
Be aware that some of the surviving shrimps may continue to die in a week or more even it seem ok now in another tank,
as happen to me last time. cry.gif


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yesterday went to NA to buy tubes,
saw alot of big bamboo shrimps under the cichlid tanks.
wonder how can they get their food since they are like plankton feeder am i right?

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i have 13 of those shrimps , they also known as banana shrimps. u can feed them with powdered fish fry food . brine shrimp fry , shrimplets food or micro guppy food.
Very easy to take care of and peaceful as well.
They like to handout at place where there is lot of water movement/flow.


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KL can get cheaper la. Don get it from shops. Get it from breeder. I got it for RM4 per piece for CRS last time, i am lucky because the breeder that time need to move house. that's why need to clear out.. But recently my tank for disaster. died almost half of it.  cry.gif
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can introduce the breeder to me ? laugh.gif


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New one.. The soil.. It's hard to find at my place..
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You can get the soil online through aquashop in lelong and in this forum as well under petstore.
you mean the tank is new but it is a cycled tank rite? cos if u keep crs in an uncycled tank they will goto heaven very soon once
ammonia and nitrite start to build-up. shocking.gif

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I juz got a new 3 feet aquarium n plan to breed CRS n RCS. I use ADA soil, juz put moss in there bcause moss doesnt need Co2 injection rite? What brand n model of chiller u guys will recommend? Currently my shrimp is still in my old 1 ft tank, juz using fan. Pls giv me some tips n advise smile.gif
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remove the plant from the tank and use activated-carbon in the filters.
Be aware that some of the surviving shrimps may continue to die in a week or more even it seem ok now in another tank,
as happen to me last time.  cry.gif


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cry.gif cry.gif
will add more active carbon in HOB filter. how long you wait to put the shrimp back? currently i move all shrimp to the other tank. GAE always pick a fight with em.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(darthsyaz @ Apr 5 2012, 04:02 AM)
I juz got a new 3 feet aquarium n plan to breed CRS n RCS. I use ADA soil, juz put moss in there bcause moss doesnt need Co2 injection rite? What brand n model of chiller u guys will recommend? Currently my shrimp is still in my old 1 ft tank, juz using fan. Pls giv me some tips n advise smile.gif
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moss does not need co2 injection to grow, but they wont be looking nice.
chiller i would recommend Hailea, model 150a (just enough) or 250a (better) would suitable for 3feet tank.
you need to cycle your aquarium for at least 1month to get stable water parameter.


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cry.gif  cry.gif
will add more active carbon in HOB filter. how long you wait to put the shrimp back? currently i move all shrimp to the other tank. GAE always pick a fight with em.... doh.gif
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mind share where you brought this plant?

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mind share where you brought this plant?
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the only FS in midvalley.. vmad.gif



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the only FS in midvalley.. vmad.gif
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E.Aqua Midvalley, the pesticide leeched plant i also got from E.Aqua but from their Tmn Tun Hussien Onn branch.
Guess their supplier never listen to the complain.
Nowadays when i buy plant from any LFS i will put into a bucket and throw in 6 grass shrimp to test first. If got pesticide they will die in < 10min one by one or all in one shoot if very posionous.(that the main reason why i keep a bunch of grass shrimps as pet. rclxm9.gif
Those pesticide won't affect fish much but deadly to shrimps/crabs.

I remove the carbon after one week and put in a bag of 100g Seachem Purigen to remove organic pollutant and polish the water.(Really Good Stuff).
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arrow, where you get ure feeder/glass/ghost shrimps?
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i easily get it at most of the LFS in cheras, like 7 out of ten will have it. IF in subang , yesterday i did ask NA but not selling ,the nearest around 10km from NA is the Qian Hu pet Family shop in taman megah that have it.
Or anyone staying in subang know any LFS in subang selling those feeder grass/glass shrimps ?
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cant find any in subang currently sigh..
you think AI sells them?
not very familiar with taman megah area, not very good with maps~

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cant find any in subang currently sigh..
you think AI sells them?
not very familiar with taman megah area, not very good with maps~

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u mean -> Aquatics International Sdn. Bhd
260A, Jalan 1A, Kampung Baru Subang, Shah Alam, Selangor, 40150, Malaysia
Tel: 7846 3559 | Fax: 78463864

going there a pain , dirt road , full lot of pole hole. But very big , lot of stuff though , got breeding section & retails, but staff there not that friendly rolleyes.gif
call them first b4 u go , normally the fella at the counter will pass the line to the foreign workers to answer your questions, that is
how rude/lazy/arrogant those management staff are. And u are like Duck talk to chicken, they speak #%^& kind of malay. rclxub.gif
I didn't buy anything there cos they can't give the price and rudely said not fixed price yet so won't sell now and turn face around(muka masam juga) . vmad.gif , some of those fish/etc there also look not that healthy, tightly cramped.
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i dont want to make appointment bcos i dont know what i want to buy rclxms.gif
I usually end up buying other stuffs

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Do any1 try GEX soil green pack with CRS before?mind to share the experience for keeping shrimp?I plan to invest my current tank with CRS and moss.ADA soil will keep for my planted root tank instead of moss
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Do any1 try GEX soil green pack with CRS before?mind to share the experience for keeping shrimp?I plan to invest my current tank with CRS and moss.ADA soil will keep for my planted root tank instead of moss
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where you brought the GEX soil green? saw some GEX soil in NA but didn't check it out. Got the benibachi shrimp soil instead(not yet use laugh.gif ).
Came across a guy in singapore using the GEX green soil + ADA aquasoil in the tank, he updating his tank progress..maybe u can follow it.
http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum/showt...ons-4-feet-tank

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temp : 28-26 (using fan)
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How big your tank is?
If big tank then have to top up water quite much because of evaporation.
Still searching for used chiller, hehe..
Cant afford new chiller sad.gif
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E.Aqua Midvalley, the pesticide leeched plant i also got from E.Aqua but from their Tmn Tun Hussien Onn branch.
Guess their supplier never listen to the complain.
Nowadays when i buy plant from any LFS i will put into a bucket and throw in 6 grass shrimp to test first. If got pesticide they will die in < 10min one by one or all in one shoot if very posionous.(that the main reason why i keep a bunch of grass shrimps as pet.  rclxm9.gif
Those pesticide won't affect fish much but deadly to shrimps/crabs.

I remove the carbon after one week and put in a bag of 100g Seachem Purigen to remove organic pollutant and polish the water.(Really Good Stuff).
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i already buy active carbon. will throw in the filter..where did you buy seachem purigen? next week will try put 1 kamikaze rcs..huhu.. sweat.gif

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i already buy active carbon. will throw in the filter..where did you buy seachem purigen? next week will try put 1 kamikaze rcs..huhu.. sweat.gif
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Seachem purigen , can get from hehe- East Aqua Ikano branch(other branch don't have cos i nag ikano branch to restock - still got 2 box 100g left since i brought 1 more to keep) , Natural Aquatic World (aka NA subang got like 4 box 100g and the 250g bottle type, (if u buy the 250g bottle u need to get ur own filter bag as purigen media is very tiny in size, get the smallest pore size filter bag), ALL THE 100G come packed in filter bag - easier) , Aquatic Paradise in kajang got 2 box.

AI , 88 pets mart , Nilufar , Qian Hu ,all DON'T have(one of them don't know what is purigen -hahahahaahah) although they claim as one of the BIGGEST LFS in malaysia shocking.gif whistling.gif

Cheapest i can get is RM45 after discount for the 100g purigen , if u can get it cheaper let me know which LFS.

O almost forgot to tell u, DON"T use any amine based polymer dechlorinator with Purigen , it will not foul the resin but will render it non-regenerable.
I change to Seachem Prime bcos of that and i love it. It didn't smell and stain my 11 liters mineral water bottles like API stress coat.

taken from seachem website:
Q: Does AP Stress Coat foul/ruin your Purigen product?

A: If they use an amine based polymer it will not foul the resin but will render it non-regenerable. What amine based polymers will do is bond not just to Purigen but to any organic scavenging resin as well as any ion exchange resin and when you attempt to regenerate the resin they will then bond with the chlorine to form chloramine which can be released into the aquarium. This is not just an issue with Purigen but with all resins being sold in the pet trade. The problem only occurs when one attempts to regenerate the resin, there is no problem unless you wish to regenerate the resin you are using. Seachem products do not contain amine based polymers and are safe to be used in conjunction with not only our resins but also with other companies resins.
http://www.seachem.com/support/FAQs/Purigen.html

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u can get those empty chinese tea bag from jusco to fill up ur purigen

NA also dun know bout purigen at first, until i recommend to them, since their distributor at penang (advance reef) got carry seachem products, so i suggest them to try biggrin.gif the biggest tank in front of their shop is actually using purigen now (last time was using carbon), boss say water is much more clearer now

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will go to advance reef la like that..hehe..tonite will going back to my hometown..
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how much do they cost? per bottle?
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oh...I using GEX soil normal type green pack not shrimp type. I read from some forum they said will having pH fluctuation,i guess maybe their tank is not yet full cycle. So i wish to see any used GEX soil normal type for CRS used by lyn or not. Wanna see any problem they face. As i got 2 tank 1 GEX 1 ADA, GEX tank is existing planted tank and i found the soil like lack of nutrient after 1year i used so i plant to rescape it and set for up for CRS. Another tank using ADA is new tank.

Any suggestion guyz?Which tank i should set up for CRS. For the CRS tank i plan to set up simple moss tank that it smile.gif
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benibachi shrimp soil is very good but very expensive. as long as the soil does it purpose of reducing the ph = good already. in taiwan they breed kingkong/ruby wine/pure red line in 5.0-5.5 ph. very low but the colors are strikingly awesome!
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oh...I using GEX soil normal type green pack not shrimp type. I read from some forum they said will having pH fluctuation,i guess maybe their tank is not yet full cycle. So i wish to see any used GEX soil normal type for CRS used by lyn or not. Wanna see any problem they face. As i got 2 tank 1 GEX 1 ADA, GEX tank is existing planted tank and i found the soil like lack of nutrient after 1year i used so i plant to rescape it and set for up for CRS. Another tank using ADA is new tank.

Any suggestion guyz?Which tank i should set up for CRS. For the CRS tank i plan to set up simple moss tank that it  smile.gif
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for me i won't use the recycle GEX soil for CRS unless you can clean out all the debris left over from previous planting (plant root, rooted leave etc),
CRS need water to be very clean , better free from organic pollutant, if you have to use the Gex soil i suggest you get seachem purigen in your filter to help clean/absorb all the organic pollutant, but this will cost you around rm45 for the 100g purigen(treat up to 400litres water capacity) .

ADA soil , the problem is the long ammonia leeching period , took around 1 mths b4 the leeching subside, although a cycled tank will keep
the ammonia level under control , it will easily leech ammonia if the soil is disturbed in first month or so, a sudden spike in ammonia will wipe/kill
your CRS. (ADA soil need longer mature period and extra care, I'm using ADA new amazonia in my crs/shrimps tank laugh.gif cos i started as planted tank then converted to shrimps tank).

my choice i will add in ADA soil into current Gex soil for planted tank and get benibachi soil for the new CRS tank , for shrimps tank an inch thick of soil is sufficient. fyi benibachi soil 5Litres cost rm120 at NA(bargain abit, stated price is rm130)


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Seachem purigen 250g bottle cost around rm88 in NA.

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wow?ADA need 1month to cycle the tank and balance the water pH.I never knew that bro, thx for your information. If existing soil will give me problem i think i better use new Amazonia for CRS. Benibachi is too costly for me, i think i wont try it biggrin.gif

If so, i think i have to decide simple moss tank or planted tank already. Cant make my choice right now. cry.gif

Do you think that a good idea to keep HC and christmas together with CRS so that i can see them all? What kind of liquid fert u used for your CRS tank?
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wow?ADA need 1month to cycle the tank and balance the water pH.I never knew that bro, thx for your information. If existing soil will give me problem i think i better use new Amazonia for CRS. Benibachi is too costly for me, i think i wont try it biggrin.gif

If so, i think i have to decide simple moss tank or planted tank already. Cant make my choice right now.  cry.gif

Do you think that a good idea to keep HC and christmas together with CRS so that i can see them all? What kind of liquid fert u used for your CRS tank?
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No, u can cycle a tank with ADA soil < a mths with sufficient bio-media and good filters just that the ammonia leeching of the ADA soil can continue > a mths, with capable bio-filters those ammonia will be neutralize in time, just that if u itchy hand and stir/'kacau' the soil a sudden ammonia spike may appear and may kill/wipe ur nearby CRS when the aquasoil soil is still new. This is due to the fragility of CRS.

You can keep HC or others nice plant, but what is your priority , plant or CRS? for me i choose shrimps that y i remove my C02 system, throw away my HC , carpeted Glosso & other plants. Keep mainly moss and marimo ball now. I using seachem iron, potassium,excel & borneowild lush, they are safe for shrimps, just don't overdose and to be safe use half recommended amount, now i seldom use those, only dose a very little once every 2 weeks.

if your wish is have nice planted tank(with HC, glosso etc) and keep CRS, i recommend that you build up the aquascaping/planting part first, when all things settle down(tank parameter stable ,plant healthy and growing) then only you start learn/keep more hardy shrimps like Red Cherry/Fire red first then only CRS. (u will save alot on lesson fee, as the CRS cost more then x5 the price of an red cherry).

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Seachem purigen , can get from hehe- East Aqua Ikano branch(other branch don't have cos i nag ikano branch to restock - still got 2 box 100g left since i brought 1 more to keep) , Natural Aquatic World (aka NA subang got like 4 box 100g and the 250g bottle type, (if u buy the 250g bottle u need to get ur own filter bag as purigen media is very tiny in size, get the smallest pore size filter bag), ALL THE 100G come packed in filter bag - easier) , Aquatic Paradise in kajang got 2 box.

AI , 88 pets mart , Nilufar , Qian Hu ,all DON'T have(one of them don't know what is purigen -hahahahaahah) although they claim as one of the BIGGEST LFS in malaysia  shocking.gif  whistling.gif

Cheapest i can get is RM45 after discount for the 100g purigen , if u can get it cheaper let me know which LFS.

O almost forgot to tell u, DON"T use any amine based polymer dechlorinator with Purigen , it will not foul the resin but will render it non-regenerable.
I change to Seachem Prime bcos of that and i love it. It didn't smell and stain my 11 liters mineral water bottles like API stress coat.

taken from seachem website:
Q: Does AP Stress Coat foul/ruin your Purigen product?

A: If they use an amine based polymer it will not foul the resin but will render it non-regenerable. What amine based polymers will do is bond not just to Purigen but to any organic scavenging resin as well as any ion exchange resin and when you attempt to regenerate the resin they will then bond with the chlorine to form chloramine which can be released into the aquarium. This is not just an issue with Purigen but with all resins being sold in the pet trade. The problem only occurs when one attempts to regenerate the resin, there is no problem unless you wish to regenerate the resin you are using. Seachem products do not contain amine based polymers and are safe to be used in conjunction with not only our resins but also with other companies resins.
http://www.seachem.com/support/FAQs/Purigen.html
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bought purigen for RM39 only.. icon_rolleyes.gif
next monday will use it in my 1.5ft tank..kesian sama itu otto living with pollute pesticide water.

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if i buy those purigen, will they give me a mesh bag? or do i have to find them individually or buy it separately?
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if i buy those purigen, will they give me a mesh bag? or do i have to find them individually or buy it separately?
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If you buy the 100g Purigen (the min volume u can get) it already come packed in a sealed mesh bag.
other volume like 250g , 500g or more all come in bottles which require one to get their own mesh bag or socks(some ppl use this rclxms.gif )

My spare 100g Purigen (they come with MESH bag)
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>50%exhausted Purigen in HOB
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bought purigen for RM39 only.. icon_rolleyes.gif
next monday will use it in my 1.5ft tank..kesian sama itu otto living with pollute pesticide water.
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Ummm.. u got directly from the distributor advance reef in penang, of course that cheap. tongue.gif

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where to get these in Selangor/Kuala Lumper Area?
1)The Deep-Frozen or Freeze-Dried CYCLOP-EEZE®
2)Genchem Astaxanthin

if they are available within my area and are cheap, would mind to buy and try the small packet

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Yea bro, i more focus on shrimp. I would like to set up a moss tank but kinda hard for me to get a nice driftwood at my place, that the reason make me shift to plant tank together with shrimp. Maybe i should not rush and slowly get a nice driftwood so that i can set up a moss tank with CRS. And i already decided to use ADA new amazonia for CRS instead of using recycle gex soil top up with ADA new soil
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where to get these in Selangor/Kuala Lumper Area?
1)The Deep-Frozen or Freeze-Dried CYCLOP-EEZE®
2)Genchem Astaxanthin

if they are available within my area and are cheap, would mind to buy and try the small packet

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curious of The Deep-Frozen or Freeze-Dried CYCLOP-EEZE , do a search came out with -> http://chuisui.com/viewthread.php?tid=13952
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I put moss only in my shrimp breeding tank since i dont use c02 injection..
Can i let the light on for 24hrs? Or is it incovenience for my CRS n RCS?
Pls giv me some tips smile.gif
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arrow-san, youre reply is a good news for me and my shrimps rclxms.gif
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I put moss only in my shrimp breeding tank since i dont use c02 injection..
Can i let the light on for 24hrs? Or is it incovenience for my CRS n RCS?
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NO, not 24hrs. unless you wanna breed algae. 8hrs is more then enough, give the shrimps some break, who's
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Yea bro, i more focus on shrimp. I would like to set up a moss tank but kinda hard for me to get a nice driftwood at my place, that the reason make me shift to plant tank together with shrimp. Maybe i should not rush and slowly get a nice driftwood so that i can set up a moss tank with CRS. And i already decided to use ADA new amazonia for CRS instead of using recycle gex soil top up with ADA new soil
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Beside driftwood, you can also tight moss to lava rock ,ryu stone, dragon stone,stainless steel/plastics mesh, etc, but make sure the rock/stone won't release substance that alter the PH. (exception is lava rock which lower PH abit ,unless you pour in the whole 'guni' sack of it.)

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I also got think to use rock before but i dont like the debris all stuck inside the plant like my current tank. I prefer to use driwftwood as i can tie the moss on the branches so that debris is hardly stuck inside the moss and also easier to manage biggrin.gif
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No, u can cycle a tank with ADA soil < a mths with sufficient bio-media and good filters just that the ammonia leeching of the ADA soil can continue > a mths, with capable bio-filters those ammonia will be neutralize in time, just that if u itchy hand and stir/'kacau' the soil a sudden ammonia spike may appear and may kill/wipe ur nearby CRS when the aquasoil soil is still new. This is due to the fragility of CRS.

You can keep HC or others nice plant, but what is your priority , plant or CRS? for me i choose shrimps that y i remove my C02 system, throw away my HC , carpeted Glosso & other plants.  Keep mainly moss and marimo ball now. I using seachem iron, potassium,excel & borneowild lush, they are safe for shrimps, just don't overdose and to be safe use half recommended amount, now i seldom use those, only dose a very little once every 2 weeks.

if your wish is have nice planted tank(with HC, glosso etc) and keep CRS, i recommend that you build up the aquascaping/planting part first, when all things settle down(tank parameter stable ,plant healthy and growing) then only you start learn/keep more hardy shrimps like Red Cherry/Fire red first then only CRS. (u will save alot on lesson fee, as the CRS cost more then x5 the price of an red cherry).
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you can cycle a tank even faster than 1 month with ADA soil.. i try before.. get dead prawns and throw inside the tank.. after 2 weeks, take the prawns out and test the water. the tank and soil should be cycle already. if not, fill the tank with only half the water and use a strong pump to move the water.
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actually u can do it with a bit of fish food or shrimp food too
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Sometime i feed my crs n rcs with dried tubifex worms..
Is it healthy n good for the shrimps or got ngativ effect? unsure.gif
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Sometime i feed my crs n rcs with dried tubifex worms..
Is it healthy n good for the shrimps or got ngativ effect?  unsure.gif
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Same here, not sure what the negative impact. Sometime i throw in brine shrimp also. Sound like cannibalism biggrin.gif
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Same here, not sure what the negative impact. Sometime i throw in brine shrimp also. Sound like cannibalism biggrin.gif
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The drawback is that some of the free floating food will lounge/stuck somewhere(substrate etc) every time you feed, in the long run
will foul the water cos those worm/brine shrimps may not be retrievable if the rcs/crs can't finish consume it.
That why we only feed the shrimps flake food that are stable in & won't cloud the water, remove it within 1-2 hrs even it not fully consumed.
Free floating shrimps/shrimplets food like borneowild bebi & mosura bio-plus is itself biodegradable and will help break down
organics waste thus will not foul the water and safe to left in there.


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you can cycle a tank even faster than 1 month with ADA soil.. i try before.. get dead prawns and throw inside the tank.. after 2 weeks, take the prawns out and test the water. the tank and soil should be cycle already. if not, fill the tank with only half the water and use a strong pump to move the water.
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Apr 9 2012, 07:45 PM)
actually u can do it with a bit of fish food or shrimp food too
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With ADA soil in fishless cycle, there is no need to use fish food etc to kickstart the tank cycle, ADA amazonia is for famous for leeching substantial ammonia from the start which enough to last through the cycle. I cycled two tank with ADA new amazonia as substrate, after few hrs submerged with water it already leech out ammonia level more then 5.0ppm.


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[quote=arrow,Apr 10 2012, 12:51 AM]
The drawback is that some of the free floating food will lounge/stuck somewhere(substrate etc) every time you feed, in the long run
will foul the water cos those worm/brine shrimps may not be retrievable if the rcs/crs can't finish consume it.
That why we only feed the shrimps flake food that are stable in & won't cloud the water, remove it within 1-2 hrs even it not fully consumed.
Free floating shrimps/shrimplets food like borneowild bebi & mosura bio-plus is itself biodegradable and will help break down
organics waste thus will not foul the water and safe to left in there.

Ow.. thanks for the tips
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Hi, I would like to ask, how to get rid / kill copepods in my tank.??
I have couple of shrimps in it btw.
Are these copepods anyhow harmful to the shrimps??
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Hi, I would like to ask, how to get rid / kill copepods in my tank.??
I have couple of shrimps in it btw.
Are these copepods anyhow harmful to the shrimps??
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safe for shrimps, i have those but now disappear, just normal scraping the glass and water change , a week later didn't see them anymore.
Kind of miss them.
If your shrimps are big enough & no shrimplets, you can put in some small tetra or guppy, those are food to them.

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safe for shrimps, i have those but now disappear, just normal scraping the glass and water change , a week later didn't see them anymore.
Kind of miss them.
If your shrimps are big enough & no shrimplets, you can put in some small tetra or guppy, those are food to them.
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update on my 1.5ft tank:

- temperature reduce to 26.2 (lowest) to 28.9(highest) after installing PC fan to da tank
- pesticide effect slowly gone..i tried put yamato inside the tank..and it seem like normal..take it out and will continue running purigen + active carbon till next week.
- my damn aquazonic still pending for repair..duhh..JHG turning yellow since my spare lighting not strong enuff..
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QUOTE(flipmode @ Apr 12 2012, 08:50 AM)
update on my 1.5ft tank:

- temperature reduce to 26.2 (lowest) to 28.9(highest) after installing PC fan to da tank
- pesticide effect slowly gone..i tried put yamato inside the tank..and it seem like normal..take it out and will continue running purigen + active carbon till next week.
- my damn aquazonic still pending for repair..duhh..JHG turning yellow since my spare lighting not strong enuff..
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congrats bro. soon, i will paw your shrimplets.hehehe


Added on April 18, 2012, 9:55 amdear all, can you tell me which LFS selling shrimps food like hikari, BW, ADA and Others Good brands and experience using them. which brand is the best? thanks

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Guys im going to buy BorneoWild Bebi..
Do i hav to mix it with BW Ebi Bacter or not?
Is it a must?
Is there any product to boost breeding? unsure.gif
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Guys im going to buy BorneoWild Bebi..
Do i hav to mix it with BW Ebi Bacter or not?
Is it a must?
Is there any product to boost breeding?  unsure.gif
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the breeding booster? does it realli works?
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Guys im going to buy BorneoWild Bebi..
Do i hav to mix it with BW Ebi Bacter or not?
Is it a must?
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the breeding booster? does it realli works?
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Hey BW Ebi Bacter - BEBI is one product not two, just use a small mug/cup , mix BEBI with tank or aged water before pour in the tank,
i already use up half bottle , yes it work , my shrimp & shrimplets going crazy for it , the best is that it also help decompose organic waste
and won't pollute your water.
I use this alternatively with mosura bio-plus and shirakura baby food. Actually all three does almost the same things, juts itchy hand buy
all three.

L3()nZ @ BEBI is shrimplets food , you want breeding aid get BW Dance & Vigor , mosura Eros & Mosura Gravidas.

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mr arrow, can u pm me about BW products since you know much and familliar with this products. huhu.currently i m searching for a reliable shrimp food for my low quality shrimp.huhu. i m currently learning to rear shrimp. gonna make a shrimp tank next month but don't have a good knowledge on shrimp.huhu. sad.gif

to others that know much about shrimp, please advice me on this hobby requirements. thanks so much. i really appreciate your help. smile.gif

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how much or those BW? trying desperately to bringing my RCS numbers back up again... HOw much at NA?
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L3()nZ @ BEBI is shrimplets food , you want breeding aid get BW Dance & Vigor , mosura Eros & Mosura Gravidas.
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Breeding aid really work? Then i should get some drool.gif

QUOTE(LuQEE @ Apr 19 2012, 01:33 PM)
how much or those BW? trying desperately to bringing my RCS numbers back up again... HOw much at NA?
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U can buy from a guy name sazuka at petstore section..
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owh..sazuka unsure.gif he got a lot of good stuffs though but postage cost more expensive than i can get in KL
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owh..sazuka unsure.gif  he got a lot of good stuffs though but postage cost more expensive than i can get in KL 
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im at KL too..he got fren now at KL so u can cod with him..but dunno until when
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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Apr 19 2012, 12:52 PM)
mr arrow, can u pm me about BW products since you know much and familliar with this products. huhu.currently i m searching for a reliable shrimp food for my low quality shrimp.huhu. i m currently learning to rear shrimp. gonna make a shrimp tank next month but don't have a good knowledge on shrimp.huhu. sad.gif

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Apr 19 2012, 01:33 PM)
how much or those BW? trying desperately to bringing my RCS numbers back up again... HOw much at NA?
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NA not selling Borneowild shrimps stuff, they only sell borneowild lily pipe & accessories.
The only LFS i know in KL that sell some(not full range) Borneowild shrimps food/supplements are 88 petsmart and Aqua World(damansara).
for starter food you can get the BW - Grow(RM35-20g) & BW - Bebi(around RM40) and for some breeding aid - BW - Vigor(RM60++).
Shirakura food - minima breeder Ebi Dama & baby shrimp food Chi Ebi only Aqua World have them cost around rm50++ per pack.

Shirakura link http://www.shirakura-shop.de/en/shirakura_...p_food_feed.htm
Borneowild link
http://www.borneowild.com/prod.php?g=2
http://www.theshrimptank.com/articles/borneowild.html

Others i normally get from aquashop in lelong.
my little collection:
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bro arrow, looks like ure opening your own little shrimps farm/shop. brows.gif
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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 20 2012, 03:15 AM)
NA not selling Borneowild shrimps stuff, they only sell borneowild lily pipe & accessories.
The only LFS i know in KL that sell some(not full range) Borneowild shrimps food/supplements are 88 petsmart and Aqua World(damansara).
for starter food you can get the BW - Grow(RM35-20g) & BW - Bebi(around RM40) and for some breeding aid - BW - Vigor(RM60++).
Shirakura food - minima breeder Ebi Dama  & baby shrimp food Chi Ebi only Aqua World have them cost around rm50++ per pack.

Shirakura link http://www.shirakura-shop.de/en/shirakura_...p_food_feed.htm
Borneowild link
http://www.borneowild.com/prod.php?g=2
http://www.theshrimptank.com/articles/borneowild.html

Others i normally get from aquashop in lelong.
my little collection:
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ABOVE all that, which will u recommend me to have for a starter. i rearing rcs currently. doing reasearch first before playing with crystal.hehehe. can you help me listing things for starter. thanks. alot bro arrow smile.gif
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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Apr 20 2012, 11:04 AM)
ABOVE all that, which will u recommend me to have for a starter. i rearing rcs currently. doing reasearch first before playing with crystal.hehehe. can you help me listing things for starter. thanks. alot bro arrow smile.gif
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actually this was taken from another forum members opinion but i do agree with him , those are:

If I were starting I'd go with the below:

Shield (this will keep the water and shrimp healthy...without good water you will have deaths)
Stout (this makes the shells really shiny and thick looking...healthy shell means healthy shrimp overall)
Grow (this is a "complete" shrimp diet unlike others that BorneoWild carries which are just supplementals)
Barley (I'd add this supplemental food too since it's REALLY cheap and it helps with water quality...you get get by without this but it's so cheap that you might as well add it to the cart).
Bebi (this i prefer cos it help build up bio-film and help decompose organic waste and won't pollute water , also useful when you have shrimplets
RCS really fast in breeding)
Mosura Old Sea Mud ( (help in mineralization and decompose of waste)

For RCS without breeding aid they also breed like crazy, think i have like >100 rcs/red fire shrimplets in my 2 feet tank. My xmas moss tree like
a Christmas tree during the feeding time when all of them clling on the tree top.

In shrimps keeping especially CRS , it is very very important to keep tank water clean(your water look crystal clear doesn't mean it is clean), that is lot of waste hidden in the soil substrate you can't see and shrimps like to dig the soil for food, that why it is important to have shrimps food/supplement that can help in developing good bacteria and decompose of organic waste.

BW Grow & BW Bebi you can get from 88 petsmart , but BW Stout they currently out of stock
BW Shield & BW Barley you have to get it online through Aquashop in lelong.com.my.
You can just get all from aquashop since it cheaper even with the RM10 shipping charge.


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i agree with aquashop.. they got tons of stuffs brows.gif
their plants to are alot

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actually this was taken from another forum members opinion but i do agree with him , those are:

If I were starting I'd go with the below:

Shield (this will keep the water and shrimp healthy...without good water you will have deaths)
Stout (this makes the shells really shiny and thick looking...healthy shell means healthy shrimp overall)
Grow (this is a "complete" shrimp diet unlike others that BorneoWild carries which are just supplementals)
Barley (I'd add this supplemental food too since it's REALLY cheap and it helps with water quality...you get get by without this but it's so cheap that you might as well add it to the cart).
Bebi (this i prefer cos it help build up bio-film and help decompose organic waste and won't pollute water , also useful when you have shrimplets
RCS really fast in breeding)
Mosura Old Sea Mud ( (help in mineralization and decompose of waste)

For RCS without breeding aid they also breed like crazy, think i have like >100 rcs/red fire shrimplets in my 2 feet tank. My xmas moss tree like
a Christmas tree during the feeding time when all of them clling on the tree top.

In shrimps keeping especially CRS , it is very very important to keep tank water clean(your water look crystal clear doesn't mean it is clean), that is lot of waste hidden in the soil substrate you can't see and shrimps like to dig the soil for food, that why it is important to have shrimps food/supplement that can help in developing good bacteria and decompose of organic waste.

BW Grow & BW Bebi you can get from 88 petsmart , but BW Stout they currently out of stock
BW Shield & BW Barley you have to get it online through Aquashop in lelong.com.my.
You can just get all from aquashop since it cheaper even with the RM10 shipping charge.
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THANKS SO MUCH. you are really2 a helpful person. may god bless you.

anyways, do crs live in room temperature?
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QUOTE(arrow @ Apr 19 2012, 02:41 AM)
Hey BW Ebi Bacter - BEBI is one product not two, just use a small mug/cup , mix BEBI with tank or aged water before pour in the tank,
i already use up half bottle , yes it work , my shrimp & shrimplets going crazy for it , the best is that it also help decompose organic waste
and won't pollute your water.
I use this alternatively with mosura bio-plus and shirakura baby food. Actually all three does almost the same things, juts itchy hand buy
all three.

L3()nZ @ BEBI is shrimplets food , you want breeding aid get BW Dance & Vigor , mosura Eros & Mosura Gravidas.
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I mean, with those breeding aid product. Does it really enhance the breeding progress? I tried Mosura Gravidas, dun see much effects.
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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Apr 20 2012, 02:41 PM)
THANKS SO MUCH. you are really2 a helpful person. may god bless you.

anyways, do crs live in room temperature?
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CRS won't survive in KL malaysia room temperature(29-31'c++) unless you staying in cameroon or genting. The lower/lowest grade CRS
can endure till 27'c - 28'c if i not mistaken but at this temperature they hardly breed, if breed shrimplets hardly survive.
CRS best keep at 23'c-25'c range, i keep mine at 24'c, now 5 CRS berried, 1 give birth , shrimplets still survive after 6 days but hopefully
they can make it this round, previous 2 round all CRS shrimplets died within 3 days.

If you really want to keep CRS , recommend you get a chiller , Advance Reef(penang) distributor for Hailea brand chiller currently in Kenanga Mall near
Pudu Jail KL having a booth display , they have 2 unit of hailea chiller selling at 20% discount, get the HS-28A model if your tank is less then 400l in size. (but don't know still available or not) , i saw it yesterday at 6pm. the event is from 19 april(yesterday to 22 april(sunday).
refer -> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2314122
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oh i see. thanks a lot for your precious info bro.smile.gif
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I mean, with those breeding aid product. Does it really enhance the breeding progress? I tried Mosura Gravidas, dun see much effects.
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Yes, i think they do, beside Mosura Gravidas, i also use BW Vigor and Mosura Eros(rarely cos overdose have adverse effect), but you need time for it to took effect, but other necessary criteria must be meet first especially CRS(water temperature etc) , but if only for RCS then it much easier , i setup one new 1 feet (36l tank, air cooled max 28'c) . dump in 15 selected high red rcs(baby from berried fire red i brought), around 1cm length, feed them Vigor and gravidas as part of the food routine, a mths plus now 4 berried. and another 5 have eggs in the ovaries.
Before that i never have a berried RCS in my first 5 mths rearing them and i have to resort to find/buy berried fire red in LFS(recalling the experience , it was very exciting & chaotic as those berried one normally getting snapped up once stock arrive) so have to take leave just to get it. tongue.gif phew...
My 5 crs also berried now. thumbup.gif

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Yes, i think they do, beside Mosura Gravidas, i also use BW Vigor and Mosura Eros(rarely cos overdose have adverse effect), but you need time for it to took effect, but other necessary criteria must be meet first especially CRS(water temperature etc) , but if only for RCS then it much easier , i setup one new 1 feet (36l tank, air cooled max 28'c) . dump in 15 selected high red rcs(baby from berried fire red i brought), around 1cm length, feed them Vigor and gravidas as part of the food routine, a mths plus now 4 berried. and another 5 have eggs in the ovaries.
Before that i never have a berried RCS in my first 5 mths rearing them and i have to resort to find/buy berried fire red in LFS(recalling the experience , it was very exciting & chaotic as those berried one normally getting snapped up once stock arrive) so have to take leave just to get it.  tongue.gif phew...
My 5 crs also berried now. thumbup.gif
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Nice reviews. So far my tanks are all kept in air conditioned room. Fire red no problem...they are blooming like mad. But as for the CRS, they somehow stopped berring for some reasons. I ve tried all the Mosura and Borneo product for breeding shrimps. So far still nt much effect. Ph stable, temperature stable at 25-26. Wonder if it's the trace elements issue...but one thing for sure...all my Fire Yellow and sunkist cant seems to survive...dunno y. Any one has any idea? Fire red surviving but fire yellow or sunkist dying issue...sifu sifu pls give some advise.


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can i know here u all buy ur CRS and RCS??
where is selling cheap? hehe
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It's always cheaper to get online from breeders than LFS. rclxms.gif

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Did you all inject CO2 in CRS tank?read a lot of article and blog all said CO2 is the main killer of CRS is that true?
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Nice reviews. So far my tanks are all kept in air conditioned room. Fire red no problem...they are blooming like mad. But as for the CRS, they somehow stopped berring for some reasons. I ve tried all the Mosura and Borneo product for breeding shrimps. So far still nt much effect. Ph stable, temperature stable at 25-26. Wonder if it's the trace elements issue...but one thing for sure...all my Fire Yellow and sunkist cant seems to survive...dunno y. Any one has any idea? Fire red surviving but fire yellow or sunkist dying issue...sifu sifu pls give some advise.


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It's always cheaper to get online from breeders than LFS. rclxms.gif
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You try lower your temperature to 24'C, mine last time at 25'c , none of my CRS berried as well and those CRS who was brought berried and giving birth, the CRS shrimplets died after 3 days.
Fire yellow i like, can pm me the breeder you get it from, outside price selling more then normal crs.
Sunkist shrimps..ummm it is like orange or diiferent? , google result showing sunkist like an orange shrimps, you mind take a picture of
your sunkist shrimps and post here for a look?


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Did you all inject CO2 in CRS tank?read a lot of article and blog all said CO2 is the main killer of CRS is that true?
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Have some truth in it cos CO2 will lower water PH, sensitive shrimps like CRS can't tolerate PH swing especially your tank is small and not enough
PH buffer.
That why i remove my CO2 system and convert to shrimps tank.
Oh, remove SAE if have one in your shrimps tank , those sucker is shrimps killer especially when your shrimps just molt. Otto is safe though.

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You try lower your temperature to 24'C, mine last time at 25'c , none of my CRS berried as well and those CRS who was brought berried and giving birth, the CRS shrimplets died after 3 days.
Fire yellow i like, can pm me the breeder you get it from, outside price selling more then normal crs.
Sunkist shrimps..ummm it is like orange or diiferent? , google result showing sunkist like an orange shrimps, you mind take a picture of
your sunkist shrimps and post here for a look?


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Have some truth in it cos CO2 will lower water PH, sensitive shrimps like CRS can't tolerate PH swing especially your tank is small and not enough
PH buffer.
That why i remove my CO2 system and convert to shrimps tank.
Oh, remove SAE if have one in your shrimps tank , those sucker is shrimps killer especially when your shrimps just molt. Otto is safe though.
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I will try to lower it to 24. Hopefully they can start berring soon. The breeding season stopped for a month now.
The fire yellows i got from singpore, im nt sure who is selling here in KL. I am looking for them too, and some chocolate shrimps too. Hehe
I got them from sg at about rm14-18.
Ok i will try to post some pics of the sunkist if i can shoot some clear pics. haha
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yea which on-line site u buy from? i also searching but much of the seller stop selling now.
is it not the breeding season now?
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What shrimps are you looking for?
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where can i get fire red shrimp? cheap2 one lor. any breeder?hehehe.
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you guys using any floating plants in your shrimps tank?
currently got some dwarf water lettuce and trapa natans in there, hope
to reduce/clear up excess nitrate.
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my shrimps eat those water lettuce, now they got holes in them and starts to rot.. doh.gif
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my shrimps eat those water lettuce, now they got holes in them and starts to rot..  doh.gif
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new breed of shrimps you have there, or it is eater by caterpillar.
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no catterpillar la haha
first it was in my turtle container, they eat those roots, plants starts to die.
transfer the water lattuce into my shrimp tank, they starts to rejuvenate, but later starts to rot and die bcoz they got eaten from underwater lol..

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new breed of shrimps you have there, or it is eater by caterpillar.
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Bro, you don't want to let me have some of your fire red shrimp kah?

i pay some lor.hehehe. want to try some shrimps that breed by you.hihihi.

can kah? brows.gif

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arrow shrimps are redder than mine hehe
mine got mix grades hehe since i buy langsam~

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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Apr 25 2012, 09:49 AM)
Bro, you don't want to let me have some of your fire red shrimp kah?

i pay some lor.hehehe. want to try some shrimps that breed by you.hihihi.

can kah?  brows.gif
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i haven't sorted out my shrimp, have fire & cherry mixed. Try to allocate them to different tank but my new tank not yet finish cycled, hopefully
can cycled in one weeks.
How many you want to buy? 10 or 20 tails ? biggrin.gif market price a tail is RM6 to RM10. of course mine cheaper then that.
If i sell my one is like 1cm to 1.5cm big only, smaller then the one in LFS, but frankly speaking, juvenile shrimp better cos they more easy to adapt to
new environment and last longer since rcs only have a life span of the most 2yrs.

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arrow, you got low grade ones?

btw, yesterday it seems i found 6 baby shrimps inside my internal filter while i was cleaning it since it becomes soo clogged. last 2 weeks i put a clump of eggs taken from a dead shrimp inside the cannister to try on artificial hatching method. do you think those babies come from those egg clumps i put in it?

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i haven't sorted out my shrimp, have fire & cherry mixed. Try to allocate them to different tank but my new tank not yet finish cycled, hopefully
can cycled in one weeks.
How many you want to buy? 10 or 20 tails ?  biggrin.gif market price a tail is RM6 to RM10. of course mine cheaper then that.
If i sell my one is like 1cm to 1.5cm big only, smaller then the one in LFS, but frankly speaking, juvenile shrimp better cos they more easy to adapt to
new environment and last longer since rcs only have a life span of the most 2yrs.
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10pcs kot. hehehe. if you need a help on sorting, i can help.don't worry, im good in sorting fire.hehehe. but don't shock if you can't find all the fire.coz i sort the fire in my pocket LOL.hehehe. juz kidding.

for the time being, i still on my way to setup my shrimp tank.but have no idea what lighting to use and got some difficulties on setup a tank since don't know what scape and plant to use. i heading for lowtech shrimp tank.

can you help a bit on giving ideas for 1x1x1feet tank please...huhu. i find cubic is interesting and spacious for the shrimps to scavenge.huhu.

i have not much ideas on setuping shrimp tank since this is my first time.huuu. sad.gif
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arrow, you got low grade ones?

btw, yesterday it seems i found 6 baby shrimps inside my internal filter while i was cleaning it since it becomes soo clogged. last 2 weeks i put a clump of eggs taken from a dead shrimp inside the cannister to try on artificial hatching method. do you think those babies come from those egg clumps i put in it?

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think it is possible , refer to the below link , others did it too but in a container.
http://www.planetinverts.com/Artifically%2...ing%20Eggs.html

unless your filter intake have gap for shrimplets to be suck into the filters , i think those shrimplets are from the eggs you deposit.
ya . 2 weeks is like the period for the eggs to hatch. Congratulations of having some canister born baby.
RCS really tough shrimps, if anyone having trouble keeping them alive it is bcos they did somethings really wrong in the tank setup.

Low grade fire, think got some , that will be down grade to cherry range.

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Help me! My shrimps n shrimplets keep dying slowly.. cry.gif
they are crs, cbs n fire red..
already happen almost a week..
firstly shrimps will jumping around for hours and then will turn backside..
after a few hours then they will stop moving and die..
already transfered them from old tank but still happen..
now only 12 shrimps left out of 40++.. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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temp? anything new you put in there?
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temp just as bfore..nothing new..
berried CBS also died, i tried to hatch them artificially..
even after change to other aquarium, the same problem still happen..
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Help me! My shrimps n shrimplets keep dying slowly..  cry.gif
they are crs, cbs n fire red..
already happen almost a week..
firstly shrimps will jumping around for hours and then will turn backside..
after a few hours then they will stop moving and die..
already transfered them from old tank but still happen..
now only 12 shrimps left out of 40++..  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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It is a shrimps tank or planted tank or it is convert from planted to shrimps tank?
smell like water problem , suspect organic waste build up or did anyone spray insecticide near your tank or (DBKL spraying pesticide in your taman etc)
Jumping around is like 'kena' poisoning, transfer to another tank is of no use if they already got poisoned , they will continue to died.
Like my case when a new plant i brought release pesticide. Transferred shrimps still continue to died slowly for almost a week.

Or anythings new you feed them recently, and ask your family members did anyone ever use insecticide near or putting hand/things in your tank.
Don't dip your hand in the tank if you just wash your hand with soap.

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I think organic waste build or hand poison...
is there any way to stop them from dying or cure the poisoning?
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I think organic waste build or hand poison...
is there any way to stop them from dying or cure the poisoning?
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unfortunately i didn't find a way to cure it other then seeing them died one by one, but you can put in Active carbon to absorb pesticide and
seachem purigen to clear up organic waste, a vacuum of the soil/gravel is recommend if organic waste build-up is suspected.
You can use organic based soap to clean your hand or wash/rinse your hand thoroughly before handling the tank.

I have been to this pesticide and organic waste problem before as my tank is actually a planted tank converted to shrimps tank,
Those plant debris and waste accumulated at soil is slowly killing my shrimps , each day will have like one to two died until i realize how
dirty my substrate are although water is crystal clear. I did a major vacuuming of the ADA soil , do a 70% water change, fill up tank and put in
Purigen, change my feeding pattern and food. (no longer feeding food that unstable and easy polluting the tank.)

For shrimps tank you need to maintain high level of beneficial bacteria not only in filter but on anywhere in the tank , those bacteria will help
decompose waste, build-up bio-film(food) etc, you have to choose some food & supplement that will provide those bacteria or help decompose of
waste beside the normal shrimps food. Borneowild Bebi/mosura bio-plus is not only shrimp & shrimplets food but also as waste decompose helper, Mosura Old Sea Mud will also help in absorbing toxic and cleanup waste.
My routine every morning is to dose old sea mud & a little bit of bebi or bio-plus to the tank, at night will feed some small amount of shrimps pellet plus bebi/bio-plus. occasionally boiled organic spinach etc. ( i usually won't buy/feed those shrimps food that come in small/micro form that will sunk anywhere in the tank as those food will be impossible to retrieve and will pollute the soil unless they can self decompose like bebi/bio-plus)
Mineral and breeding aid and other conditional will be added occasionally. Every 2 weeks or more i will throw in a ADA bacter ball for them to feed on.


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10pcs kot. hehehe. if you need a help on sorting, i can help.don't worry, im good in sorting fire.hehehe. but don't shock if you can't find all the fire.coz i sort the fire in my pocket LOL.hehehe. juz kidding.

for the time being, i still on my way to setup my shrimp tank.but have no idea what lighting to use and got some difficulties on setup a tank since don't know what scape and plant to use. i heading for lowtech shrimp tank.

can you help a bit on giving ideas for 1x1x1feet tank please...huhu. i find cubic is interesting and spacious for the shrimps to scavenge.huhu.

i have not much ideas on setuping shrimp tank since this is my first time.huuu.  sad.gif
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cubic 1 feet tank will be 27L water capacity, not too bad. Lighting 11w to 15w is more then enough , plants can be just moss or with ferns, i don't recommend Anubias, for me i use only moss, moss got lot of variety and appearance, search for it in google. Moss you need to tight to wood or rock, you can get some cheap wood from nilufar pets & aqua shop in tesco jln kuchai lama, but for any new wood, treat it with boiling water and rinse and let it sit in a bucket to leech out tannie for a few days before use.
For gravel , you can use ADA new amazonia or just plain holland/river sand will do, but the latter won't have ph buffering capabilities.
Further read on setting up shrimps tank -> http://www.planetinverts.com/Invert%20Tank%20Setup.html

You will need a filter , a HOB(hang on back) filters , canister , sponge filters, combinations of them is possible, limit is your budget and tank size.
Air pump is a must , shrimps just love oxygen rich environment, (sponge filters need a air pump to function).

Then you need to cycle your tank, refer here for guide -> http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/freshwa...um-cycle-38617/

Example :
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Saw the tank on the left , that tank is almost the same size of one you want, just 5cm taller, 1feet(L) x 35cm(H) x 1feet(w),
That is EBI Fluval shrimp tank, come with most items , internal filter, lighting , shrimps soil , net , shrimps food , water conditioner.
If you don't mind fork out rm300++ for it , it almost a complete set for beginner.



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awesome. thanks bro. will start ASAP. smile.gif

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Going to start a new 3ft tank after massacre of my shrimps.. cry.gif
already have resun cl650, but still wondering what filter is suitable to connect with the chiller?
just shrimp tank using ADA soil with some susswusertang and mosses..
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Going to start a new 3ft tank after massacre of my shrimps..  cry.gif
already have resun cl650, but still wondering what filter is suitable to connect with the chiller?
just shrimp tank using ADA soil with some susswusertang and mosses..
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3ft tank i like drool.gif Super clear ADA look alike? , how much you brought it?
refer here http://www.my-mac.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=15929
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3ft tank i like  drool.gif  Super clear ADA look alike? , how much you brought it?
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Aquarium or the chiller?
Super clear ADA? U mean this? http://www.adgshop.com/Clear_Super_p/105-021.htm
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Aquarium or the chiller?
Super clear ADA? U mean this? http://www.adgshop.com/Clear_Super_p/105-021.htm
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i mean super clear glass tank. those are normally copying ADA glass tank design.
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No bro..just normal tank sad.gif
Someone offer me 2nd hand jebo 383 that can run 1200 l/h..
is it ok with resun cl650?
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No bro..just normal tank sad.gif
Someone offer me 2nd hand jebo 383 that can run 1200 l/h..
is it ok with resun cl650?
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Should be Jebo 838@1200l/h
see this -> http://www.my-mac.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=15314

For me i will go for eheim 2217@1000l/h @rm499 with free media, although abit underpower, but if reduce 30-40% of the media, should
be ok to power the chiller.
Just like my 2213 , i reduce media by 25% , still able to power my hailea HS-28A on my 2 ft.

Ppl using taiyocf1000 , said good. Maybe you can give that a try, quite cheap also at RM150 new , Bro weijie selling it.
-> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2255889/+1380


Added on April 27, 2012, 7:00 pmFeeding my shrimps yesterday with boiled organic spinach, they are crazy over it. Finish all in 3hrs.
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After 1 hrs
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After 2 hrs i dump in some BorneoWild Barley as well to help clean up and feed them more... (i know i overfeed abit, but who's can stand the munching of the shrimps).
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After 3 hrs , spinach & barley all finish 'kena sapu all'
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wow. like that a lot wor. what a wonderful shrimps you got there. huhu. tomorrow gonna buy cubic 1ft and slowly gonna setup.huhuh
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wow. like that a lot wor. what a wonderful shrimps you got there. huhu. tomorrow gonna buy cubic 1ft and slowly gonna setup.huhuh
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Really, don't want go for 2ft? Higher water capacity, more easy to maintain water parameter. Im going 3ft or more for my next upgrade.

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Really, don't want go for 2ft? Higher water capacity, more easy to maintain water parameter. Im going 3ft or more for my next upgrade.
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got no budget to buy lighting lor.huhu. i really2 love to.huhu
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got no budget to buy lighting lor.huhu. i really2 love to.huhu
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shrimps tank no need high light , 15w clip on light is enough to grow moss.

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shrimps tank no need high light , 15w clip on light is enough to grow moss.
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is it? in that case, i can start to scape lor.hehe.

how thick exactly the substrat to put?
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u selling sakura shrimp??

what is the price u selling? hehe.

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anyone breed chocolate shrimps here???
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is it? in that case, i can start to scape lor.hehe.

how thick exactly the substrat to put?
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how thick the substrate is depend how deep is your pocket , but not overly thick , for me minimum 2.5cm till 6cm max.
my 1feet tank soil is 2.5cm thick(Fluval stratum shrimp soil), the new 50cm(benibachi soil) one is around 3.5cm thick. The 2ft(ADA new amazonia) is 7cm thick(but this one is exception cos initially it was a planted tank).
What substrate you plan to use ? ADA new amazonia ? if ADA , need to cycle longer cos it leech ammonia for at least a months.

You can calculate how many liters of soil you need by using this formula -> Tank(Length) x Tank(Width) x desired soil height/10 ,
Let say you want soil to be 3cm thick in your 1feet cube tank , then (3 x 3) x 3/10 = 2.7litres.

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is it normal for my male RCS to rape my new yamato?
from my observation, i see all my females are berried or in the process of berrying(eggs inside their body), is this the cause?

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is it normal for my male RCS to rape my new yamato?
from my observation, i see all my females are berried or in the process of berrying(eggs inside their body), is this the cause?

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they only harassing, but normally the other way round cos yamato normally 2x size of RCS unless you got those junior yamato.

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the yamato's are twice the size of the males
hurm, maybe ure right since all thsoe RCS females already got raped rolleyes.gif

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i think my pesticide effect on tank already gone. shrimp eat normally, act normally. thanks to mr arrow for the guide. now can start dosing fertilizer normally.
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i think my pesticide effect on tank already gone. shrimp eat normally, act normally. thanks to mr arrow for the guide. now can start dosing fertilizer normally.
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i think my pesticide effect on tank already gone. shrimp eat normally, act normally. thanks to mr arrow for the guide. now can start dosing fertilizer normally.
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congrats .. remove the activated carbon if all things alright now as an exhausted activated carbon can release back toxin to the tank.

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its shrimp tiem for flipmode now ~ rclxms.gif
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thanks all...here is update for my tank.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif


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thanks all...here is update for my tank.. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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SUPERB TANK. WOW. congrats bro. i think i gonna do a tank like that lor.huhu
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thanks all...here is update for my tank.. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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nice tank , but only 3 lonely shrimps left.
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SUPERB TANK. WOW. congrats bro. i think i gonna do a tank like that lor.huhu
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thanks bro..i already register my tank to kpdnhep, u cannot copy. hahahaha

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nice tank , but only 3 lonely shrimps left.
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my shrimps like to play hide and seek. when feeding time only they will come out. there's two more under the "tree"...i got 8 of em in this tank. others in the syiok2 tank..

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SUPERB TANK. WOW. congrats bro. i think i gonna do a tank like that lor.huhu
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Your substrate will be orange color cos malaya soil. Just reverse(or flip) flipmode design, kpdnhep allow that.
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haha, if like that, will also tiru flimode, but using shurui sand, so white colour hehe, and the decoration placements will be opposite of flipmodes one
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hahaha..im just newbie..this is my first planted tank that i maintain seriously..lots of stray snail in there.i pick it up with tweezer, crush em, then give to my betta..hehehe. there's long way to go...do correct me if anything wrong....im still newbie maa..
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thanks bro..i already register my tank to kpdnhep, u cannot copy. hahahaha
my shrimps like to play hide and seek. when feeding time only they will come out. there's two more under the "tree"...i got 8 of em in this tank. others in the syiok2 tank..
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HAHAHA. lokek this fellow. amano also teach people to do his scape. kih3. i think, u are malaysia version of oliver knott.hehehe. j/kidding. tongue.gif
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haha...just kidding only..i tell anything that i know...dont worry..
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Your substrate will be orange color cos malaya soil. Just reverse(or flip) flipmode design, kpdnhep allow that.
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hehe. don't want lor. what is your opinion if i just use amazonia soil instead of using that malaya soil?huhu.because the soil will low the ph right?got dw summore.wonder how low is my shrimp tank water's ph. huhu hmm.gif


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haha...just kidding only..i tell anything that i know...dont worry..
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no sweat lah. hehe. when do you wanna date with me hah?banting got special lfs kah?

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there's no special LFS in banting boss...terribly busy this month bosssss
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hehe. don't want lor. what is your opinion if i just use amazonia soil instead of using that malaya soil?huhu.because the soil will low the ph right?got dw summore.wonder how low is my shrimp tank water's ph. huhu hmm.gif
Use New Amazonia better , malaya tend to lower PH too much. i'm using New Amazonia in my main tank, PH is 6.4. so far so good ,
CRS, Neocaridina Shrimp all breeding , just discover my golden crs have given birth a week ago , saw a tiny little golden crs at moss(size like a week old).

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Use New Amazonia better , malaya tend to lower PH too much. i'm using New Amazonia in my main tank, PH is 6.4. so far so good ,
CRS, Neocaridina Shrimp all breeding , just discover my golden crs have given birth a week ago , saw a tiny little golden crs at moss(size like a week old).
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Congrats bro~ Soon there will be full of goldens in your tank rclxms.gif


Added on May 4, 2012, 10:31 amHaha just done a simple cheap setup for a little fun. Will add in some of the painted fire red when the cycle is stable biggrin.gif
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Congrats bro~ Soon there will be full of goldens in your tank rclxms.gif


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nice fun tank , it is a 1ft cube ? seem all sand only.
Those baby CRS is ruining my eyes , they are half size of a Neocaridina Shrimplets, very hard to locate them , somemore gestation period is longer and give birth less shrimplets.



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those cabomba and other stem plants can live using sand substrate or ure using soil at the back?
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i am using ada malaya soil behind. They are isolated by the rocks. haha Yea it's 1ft cube.
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my new shrimps tank done cycling , took around 8 days. added in moss and floating plant. Not as good looking as L3()nZ
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Not feeling well today , goto see doctor , got some free Subwassertang(aka freshwater seaweed) from him beside medicine(paid tongue.gif ) . rclxms.gif
and some by product tiny apple snail.
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my new shrimps tank done cycling , took around 8 days. added in moss and floating plant. Not as good looking as L3()nZ
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Not feeling well today , goto see doctor , got some Subwassertang(aka freshwater seaweed) from him beside medicine .  rclxms.gif
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this is getting good...can get cheap2 fire red lah after this...hehehe
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my new shrimps tank done cycling , took around 8 days. added in moss and floating plant. Not as good looking as L3()nZ
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Not feeling well today , goto see doctor , got some free Subwassertang(aka freshwater seaweed) from him beside medicine(paid  tongue.gif ) .  rclxms.gif
and some by product tiny apple snail.
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Tiny apple snail. need a magnifying glass to verify.
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U mean u got some free subwassertang from ur doctor? So nice~
Haha my other shrimp tanks are like urs too, clean simple setup. Easy to maintain. U can add some CRS to ur tank~
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U mean u got some free subwassertang from ur doctor? So nice~
Haha my other shrimp tanks are like urs too, clean simple setup. Easy to maintain.  U can add some CRS to ur tank~
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ya , my doctor into planted tank , he got one 2ft tank in his office, very nice of him.
ahemm on my next visit will get somemore cos his subwassertang always overgrow.

i added a lone golden crs into my 1feet fan cooled tank, a week now, she still survive but don't think they will breed at temp 27-28c.

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@Arrow bro, do you wash your shrimp's tank sponge frequently?And how u wash it?Another thing do you put any kind of fert for your moss?
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@Arrow bro, do you wash your shrimp's tank sponge frequently?And how u wash it?Another thing do you put any kind of fert for your moss?
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yes i do wash them bcos they clogged with debris , i wash it inside a plastic bucket with tank water or De-chlorinated tap water or aged water.
just squeeze them in the bucket to let out all the debris , do it 2 to 3 time.

I use BW lush, Seachem Potassium & iron once in 2 week. Half dose.
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Anyone can inform me if midvalley got fire red shrimp.. Last few weeks i went there there's only crs..
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yes i do wash them bcos they clogged with debris , i wash it inside a plastic bucket with tank water or De-chlorinated  tap water or aged water.
just squeeze them in the bucket to let out all the debris , do it 2 to 3 time.

I use BW lush, Seachem Potassium & iron once in 2 week. Half dose.
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The respective fert you using izzit shrimp safe?i kinda noob on this. Because my current moss tank(without co2) dont use any fert and i also not sure whether should i or should not use any fert on it. Need more advise, as i prepare it to breed shrimp. This tank already 2month+

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The respective fert you using izzit shrimp safe?i kinda noob on this. Because my current moss tank(without co2) dont use any fert and i also not sure whether should i or should not use any fert on it. Need more advise, as i prepare it to breed shrimp. This tank already 2month+
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Confirm safe what I use, using those for > 6mths, just remember use half dose of what recommended on the bottle. fert other then the one I mention early you need to search if it shrimps safe in the internet.
Fyi borneowild growth is not shrimps safe but the manufacture reply me said it still can be use but half the amount.(of course I wont take the risk and exchange it to BW lush.)

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Anyone can inform me if midvalley got fire red shrimp.. Last few weeks i went there there's only crs..
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Bro, i think get online from breeders better and cheaper. Just from my experience.
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Confirm safe what I use, using those for > 6mths, just remember use half dose of what recommended on the bottle.  fert other then the one I mention early you need to search if it shrimps safe in the internet.
Fyi borneowild growth is not shrimps safe but the manufacture reply me said it still can be use but half the amount.(of course I wont take the risk and exchange it to BW lush.)
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bro, how many days to wait until water parameter stable?i just finished scaping my tank.hehehe. can't wait to see the result.hehehe.but just simple like your new cycled tank.hoho
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Thx for your info bro. From your previous post you had shared about your shrimp tank which contain CRS, do you use chiller to breed them?What your average tank's temp?I got plan to start it without chiller but still cant get home breeder so far. sad.gif
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bro, how many days to wait until water parameter stable?i just finished scaping my tank.hehehe. can't wait to see the result.hehehe.but just simple like your new cycled tank.hoho
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Using ADA new Amazonia soil right?, first cycling your tank, this soil is notorious to continue leech ammonia for a month.
but it is a good soil nevertheless.
Be patient , after your tank is fully cycled then only worry about parameter. We will guide you from there.
i assume you have knowledge in cycling tank right?
Either way this is a good read > http://www.shrimpnow.com/content.php/253-Shrimp-Tank-Cycling


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Thx for your info bro. From your previous post you had shared about your shrimp tank which contain CRS, do you use chiller to breed them?What your average tank's temp?I got plan to start it without chiller but still cant get home breeder so far. sad.gif
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Yes, i'm using chiller temp is set to 24'C, CRS are breeding,most of the female got berried, notice 2nd batch of shrimplets emerging. First batch have grow double their initial size biggrin.gif

I'm now experiencing keeping crs in fan cooled tank, temp 26'c - 28'c,
so far the lone golden crs survive for more then a week, gonna introduce some more crs into the tank to try out.
Internet info state that at that temp it hardly breed but there is nothing to lose in trying.

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just finished cleaning mah tanks..5 hours lol
found out a few little shrimps inside my filter again..

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I never success breed RCS so far and never had a chance to berries as well. my experience only yamato success to carry egg but fail to breed sad.gif
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yamato need brackish water to breed... no hope in fresh water tank

RCS will breed easily if ur water is cycled and maintain in good condition smile.gif
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got a question, shrimps and crayfish, do theyt mix well?
read some are ok with those dwarf crayfish, some i heard ended with tragic ending.
what do you guys think?

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I AFRAID MY FILTER MEDIA in my hob is insufficient for bacteria to cycle nitrogen in 2ft tank.huhuhu. the hob is as big as eheim liberty 1500l.huuu. can anyone advice on this matter? sad.gif
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I AFRAID MY FILTER MEDIA in my hob is insufficient for bacteria to cycle nitrogen in 2ft tank.huhuhu. the hob is as big as eheim liberty 1500l.huuu. can anyone advice on this matter? sad.gif
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Remove one of those plug-in sponge that come with the HOB , put it more media, then add in one more air driven sponge filter in the tank.
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Remove one of those plug-in sponge that come with the HOB , put it more media, then add in one more air driven sponge filter in the tank.
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done that already. i think it is like not enough lor.is it enough actually?
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put circular sponge on the inlet like those sponge filter, they can at least hold small amount of good bacta, but will greatly reduce intake flow when clogged IMHO
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are u injecting co2 ? if no then can add separate sponge filter or even k1 media smile.gif NA selling them, google for more info about k1 media
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ciohbu, i thought K1 should be used in sump tank, or DIY air pump bottle fillter?
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ciohbu, i thought K1 should be used in sump tank, or DIY air pump bottle fillter?
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USE NO CO2. shrimp tank.afraid they all gone to heaven because of me and give addition to my sins account. hohoho

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put circular sponge on the inlet like those sponge filter, they can at least hold small amount of good bacta, but will greatly reduce intake flow when clogged IMHO
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Those sponge filter give you best of both world -> aeration and filter, shrimps just love oxygen rich environment and extra filtration.
Those F1 media , you can just throw into the tank , can act as a hidden place beside growing more bacteria.
Imho planted tank emphasizes on layout and overall plant grow but shrimps tank we emphasizes on bacteria grow in order to help provide
a clean conductive environment for our shrimps to grow & breed.
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Guys, any cheap 20cm fullset tank to recommend? Shop?
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interest to get 2nd hand item?
here. this is not mine
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what is market price for low grade RCS??
cause i got mine at RM10 for 11 RCS yesterday..
However, 4 of them try to suicide. found all inside the HOB
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but only 1 dead, another 3 still alive.
straight away i put sponge at HOB inlet but that make my suction suck..
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get a stainless steel filter mesh.. wont slow down ur inflow too much and safe for shrimp and babies smile.gif

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Bro, i think get online from breeders better and cheaper. Just from my experience.
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Any lubang to get it?? i'm looking for cheap fire red also biggrin.gif but do some of them give you "Sakura Cherry" rather than "Fire Cherry"? "Sakura Cherry" is second grade better than red cherry shrimp and lower than fire cherry right?

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get a stainless steel filter mesh.. wont slow down ur inflow too much and safe for shrimp and babies smile.gif
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where can i find steel filter mesh???i have no idea. i prefer some cheap one lor. huhuhu. at NA a bit expensive lor. what is the market price for the mesh actually?huhu.
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ciohbu, ure still selling them? those steel mesh intake?
does it fit shiruba xb303, 2213 and medium size HOB filter? been eye-ing them for a long time lol.. but no courage to ask since i usually end up no money to buy hehe

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ciohbu, ure still selling them? those steel mesh intake?
does it fit shiruba xb303, 2213 and medium size HOB filter? been eye-ing them for a long time lol.. but no courage to ask since i usually end up no money to buy hehe

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QUOTE(sang gemok @ May 7 2012, 11:31 PM)
over my dead body. after me first. hehehe. mcamane tank ko? ok ker?aku trim pokok td.da jadi mcm taman siket.xd r mcm hutan sekunder.keh3
tank? messed up alot, old tank every plant terabur already..
2nd tank, all pokok almost botak due to imb4 feeder shrimp overstock. subwassertang becomes seaweed already..

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ May 7 2012, 11:34 PM)
tank? messed up alot, old tank every plant terabur already..
2nd tank, all pokok almost botak due to imb4 feeder shrimp overstock. subwassertang becomes seaweed already..

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@chiobu bro, The size of filter intake stainless steel mesh how to measure?Can it fit to all kind of HOB filter?
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QUOTE(naoki666 @ May 7 2012, 11:17 PM)
Any lubang to get it?? i'm looking for cheap fire red also biggrin.gif but do some of them give you "Sakura Cherry" rather than "Fire Cherry"? "Sakura Cherry" is second grade better than red cherry shrimp and lower than fire cherry right?
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All i can say is dun go for cheap priced "fire red" they will turn out to be sakura red only. Yes Sakura red are better quality then normal cherry, close to fire red. But still can not compare to those painted fire reds. Fire red it's hard to get males, shops onli have female for sell. Unless u get from breeder.
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QUOTE(LuQEE @ May 7 2012, 11:29 PM)
ciohbu, ure still selling them? those steel mesh intake?
does it fit shiruba xb303, 2213 and medium size HOB filter? been eye-ing them for a long time lol.. but no courage to ask since i usually end up no money to buy hehe

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The stainless steel mesh intake at NA is under brand Gush , got 2 size , 13mm & 17mm , 13mm can fit 2213 nicely,
for HOB i will take out the hob intake head and try there. At rm30++ quite expensive unless Mr.ciohbu can pre-order for us.
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The stainless steel mesh intake at NA is under brand Gush , got 2 size , 13mm & 17mm , 13mm can fit 2213 nicely,
for HOB i will take out the hob intake head and try there. At rm30++ quite expensive unless Mr.ciohbu can pre-order for us.
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Agree with you.huhu.
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i stay at seri kembangan , where i can buy the shrimp ?
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aiya...i cannot try le...I not staying at KL T_T...only postage can help me
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anyone came across any LFS in KL selling sulawesi shrimps or vampire crabs , pls let me know , not online seller(i know some do sell).
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b4 i found this stainless steel mesh, i was using NA one also... the quality and workmanship not very good actually for a item >RM30 @.@'''

i am using 16mm for HOB eheim liberty 2042, no need to take out the intake head or modify anything, just slot it the mesh only... hehee, i guess it can fit any filter intake or hob as long as the size is 12mm or 16mm..

but the intake can't be too long, if no the mesh can't cover whole thing

how i measure the diameter

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i got order few units from my supplier but can't guarantee anything yet, sometime they run out of stock
i will update here once i got the stock biggrin.gif cheers

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b4 i found this stainless steel mesh, i was using NA one also... the quality and workmanship not very good actually for a item >RM30 @.@'''

i am using 16mm for HOB eheim liberty 2042, no need to take out the intake head or modify anything, just slot it the mesh only... hehee, i guess it can fit any filter intake or hob as long as the size is 12mm or 16mm..

but the intake can't be too long, if no the mesh can't cover whole thing

how i measure the diameter

user posted image

sample pic of my tank (sorry for the blur pic)  notworthy.gif

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i got order few units from my supplier but can't guarantee anything yet, sometime they run out of stock
i will update here once i got the stock biggrin.gif cheers
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err, so should i measure my hose? to know whether it fits or not?
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ May 8 2012, 06:51 PM)
b4 i found this stainless steel mesh, i was using NA one also... the quality and workmanship not very good actually for a item >RM30 @.@'''

i am using 16mm for HOB eheim liberty 2042, no need to take out the intake head or modify anything, just slot it the mesh only... hehee, i guess it can fit any filter intake or hob as long as the size is 12mm or 16mm..

but the intake can't be too long, if no the mesh can't cover whole thing

how i measure the diameter

user posted image

sample pic of my tank (sorry for the blur pic)  notworthy.gif

user posted image

i got order few units from my supplier but can't guarantee anything yet, sometime they run out of stock
i will update here once i got the stock biggrin.gif cheers
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if the price is right, please reserve for me 2. thanks. smile.gif
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last night, saw my mosses in my newly shrimp tank become grey colour. is it because not enough lights or adapting to new environment?huhuu. not all got that simptom.huhu.

i dose the tank with BW growth and BW essence K. huhuhu.
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last night, saw my mosses in my newly shrimp tank become grey colour. is it because not enough lights or adapting to new environment?huhuu. not all got that simptom.huhu.

i dose the tank with BW growth and BW essence K. huhuhu.
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what kind of moss? coral? if coral moss say good bye to your money. huhu..most of mosses need lower temperature. 28 and below is da best. only java easy to adapt higher than that. my flame moss wont grow in 30C.my mosses turn to brown color for 2 week. thinking of getting rid of it.. after i add fan, walla..spiky & flame moss grew! cooler temperature does help. experience tell you everything.

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what kind of moss? coral? if coral moss say good bye to your money. huhu..most of mosses need lower temperature. 28 and below is da best. only java easy to adapt higher than that.  my flame moss wont grow in 30C.my mosses turn to brown color for 2 week. thinking of getting rid of it.. after i add fan, walla..spiky & flame moss grew! cooler temperature does help. experience tell you everything.
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is it???oh i see.huhuhu. thanks man. how's your tank?
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is it???oh i see.huhuhu. thanks man. how's your tank?
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got sign of hair algea, maybe need to introduce encik yamato san to my 1.5ft tank.
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lighting problem...again. ballast kong. fed up already with aquazonic.
got sign of hair algea, maybe need to introduce encik yamato san to my 1.5ft tank.
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When will you be visiting AI? want to tapau some rcs.hehehe.
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next month maybe..been busy lately..dont tapau all la wei...save a bit for me... laugh.gif
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next month maybe..been busy lately..dont tapau all la wei...save a bit for me... laugh.gif
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lighting problem...again. ballast kong. fed up already with aquazonic.
got sign of hair algea, maybe need to introduce encik yamato san to my 1.5ft tank.
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Just ask electrician to help you... the aquazonic ballast is totally useless.. they using marketing tactic or something like that fixed it for you last for few weeks them boom... just ask the electrician to bypass it.. my electrician removed the ballast and bypass it.. low light power... i mean dimmer than with ballast but what the heck... last longer than with ballast.. biggrin.gif
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Just ask electrician to help you... the aquazonic ballast is totally useless.. they using marketing tactic or something like that fixed it for you last for few weeks them boom... just ask the electrician to bypass it.. my electrician removed the ballast and bypass it.. low light power... i mean dimmer than with ballast but what the heck... last longer than with ballast.. biggrin.gif
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just throw in 2 small piece of borneowild minerock... huhuuu

anyone using it also ?
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cant we just use normal rock salt usually sold in store? the orange coloured ones?
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Guyz...how to increase calcium in the water?Can teach me T_T
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just throw in 2 small piece of borneowild minerock... huhuuu

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just throw in 2 small piece of borneowild minerock... huhuuu

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thought of but didn't order it. mind to share the outcome, make any different in your shrimps behavior ,color etc ?
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thought of but didn't order it. mind to share the outcome, make any different in your shrimps behavior ,color etc ?
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uncle arrow. long time no see. buzy with new shrimp tank kah?hehehe.so, hows your invertebrates?hehehe.
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uncle arrow. long time no see. buzy with new shrimp tank kah?hehehe.so, hows your invertebrates?hehehe.
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kind of , trying my hand on sulawesi shrimps, i'm a beginner on that ...have to dig-up internet for more info.

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rclxms.gif i want to see them in ure tank
can i come when u already bought them? brows.gif

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where do you buy that minerock? i want some. how much bro?got others bw products kah?
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You can get it from aquashop in lelong , 500g pack for like RM70++ , 2ft tank only need to put in 1 -2 'ketul',
but i think the overall function beside providing mineral is to help absorb impurities & waste , so you all can see CLEAN water is first criteria in shrimps keeping.

If want to get cheap borneowild , mosura etc shrimp products , you have to go singapore.
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You can get it from aquashop in lelong , 500g pack for like RM70++ , 2ft tank only need to put in 1 -2 'ketul',
but i think the overall function beside providing mineral is to help absorb impurities & waste , so you all can see CLEAN water is first criteria in shrimps keeping.

If want to get cheap borneowild , mosura etc shrimp products , you have to go singapore.
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i gone to singapore but dunno where to start.hoho. maybe have to research on the place to go first.huhu.

about your sulawesi cardinal, it is really hard right to achieve ph8 .huhu. and they need temp at below 27c also kah?huhu
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i gone to singapore but dunno where to start.hoho. maybe have to research on the place to go first.huhu.

about your sulawesi cardinal, it is really hard right to achieve ph8 .huhu. and they need temp at below 27c also kah?huhu
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Not hard to achieve PH8 , coral sand/chip will do the job. Sulawesi shrimps prefer temp 28-29c, their natural habitat temp is around 29.5c.
But you need to care about the TDS level. They need hardwater.
My tank is using fan temp 28'c++ , they seem comfortable.

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Not hard to achieve PH8 , coral sand/chip will do the job. Sulawesi shrimps prefer temp 28-29c, their natural habitat temp is around 29.5c.
But you need to care about the TDS level. They need hardwater.
My tank is using fan temp 28'c++ , they seem comfortable.
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Easy to breed kah? you try first. if good, i will follow u. hehehe. i think, better you focus on the sulawesi only. because, later you will have no time with the other tanks. beside, it is my opportunity to get cheap stuffs from you. etc, aquarium chiller, sss grade crs and good shrimps tanks. hehehe. juz kidding. if you think that my idea is good, please let me know the bulk price of the crs tank setup plus chiller. hehehehe. juz kidding,juz kidding. hehehe. brows.gif
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QUOTE(sang gemok @ May 11 2012, 04:38 PM)
Easy to breed kah? you try first. if good, i will follow u. hehehe. i think, better you focus on the sulawesi only. because, later you will have no time with the other tanks. beside, it is my opportunity to get cheap stuffs from you. etc, aquarium chiller, sss grade crs and good shrimps tanks. hehehe. juz kidding. if you think that my idea is good, please let me know the bulk price of the crs tank setup plus chiller. hehehehe. juz kidding,juz kidding. hehehe. brows.gif
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Wow , talk about breed so early, now only start to monitor them ,not yet stable, need 2 weeks or more then only think of
helping them breed laugh.gif , i must admit i'm not ready for them yet, but can't resist their beauties, brought them , rush back home, take hold guppies tank, pack them away, remove the ever polluting java fern , clean up the filter and gravel abit, reset the tank for them as this is the only tank i have with PH7.6 with coral sand in it and cycled.

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Wow , talk about breed so early, now only start to monitor them ,not yet stable, need 2 weeks or more then only think of
helping them breed  laugh.gif , i must admit i'm not ready for them yet, but can't resist their beauties, brought them , rush back home, take hold guppies tank, pack them away, remove the ever polluting java fern , clean up the filter and gravel abit, reset the tank for them as this is the only tank i have with PH7.6 with coral sand in it and cycled.
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i salute your determination. smile.gif wasting lots of money and times for this beautiful invertebrates. i really2 want to be in your level one day to experience what you feel right now about these shrimps. for me, this kind of hobby is really interesting and the most calming to me as i can enjoy the scenery and experience nature in my bedroom without getting dirt on my shirt. for me, the money that been wasting in this hobby is an investment for my entertainment and feeling.this hobby lighten up my life a lot. smile.gif
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i salute your determination. smile.gif wasting lots of money and times for this beautiful invertebrates. i really2 want to be in your level one day to experience what you feel right now about these shrimps. for me, this kind of hobby is really interesting and the most calming to me as i can enjoy the scenery and experience nature in my bedroom without getting dirt on my shirt. for me, the money that been wasting in this hobby is an investment for my entertainment and feeling.this hobby lighten up my life a lot. smile.gif
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For me i like shrimps & invertebrates when i was in primary school when my father brought those feeder shrimp to feed arowana ,i will scoop up some and keep in a jar, will look at them for hrs , but as usual they all end up dead the next morning, now i know the reason cos i use untreated tap water to keep them. tongue.gif
I don't feel the same for fish, to me they like food drool.gif the only fish i like to keep is those marine one but as expected i find the marine shrimps alot alot nicer. Do you know anyone that only keep marine shrimps in a expensive marine tank? I like to be the one but it just too costly and hightech.

Btw those guppies & swordtail are my wife liabilities , i ask her, can feed them to my crayfish , she said you dare!!!!^%%& thumbup.gif

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why u wanna increase ur calcium ? GH not enough ? smile.gif

i got my minerock from sazuka, same price with lelong, but i didn't put in whole piece, i break it down to small pieces and try 2 first

for sulawesi, they need higher PH and different mineral combination (US selling pre-mix salt just for sulawesi)
also their natural habitat is quite basic and empty... not fancy fancy like planted tank

cheers ~
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im still asking those guys in xiang liang for them.. but they said, nvr sell them.. weird, read in thread a shop is selling jellyfish near that area some years ago hehe

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QUOTE(arrow @ May 11 2012, 05:28 PM)
For me i like shrimps & invertebrates when i was in primary school when my father brought those feeder shrimp to feed arowana ,i will scoop up some and keep in a jar, will look at them for hrs , but as usual they all end up dead the next morning, now i know the reason cos i use untreated tap water to keep them.  tongue.gif
I don't feel the same for fish, to me they like food  drool.gif  the only fish i like to keep is those marine one but as expected i find the marine shrimps alot alot nicer. Do you know anyone that only keep marine shrimps in a expensive marine tank? I like to be the one but it just too costly and hightech.

Btw those guppies & swordtail are my wife liabilities , i ask her, can feed them to my crayfish , she said you dare!!!!^%%&  thumbup.gif
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hehe noty you.hehehe. anyways, i would love to learn from you on the shrimp.smile.gif. would you mind if sharing some of your experience to me?i would love to go thru your experience since i new and not so wealth person.kekekeke biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ May 11 2012, 06:05 PM)
why u wanna increase ur calcium ? GH not enough ? smile.gif

i got my minerock from sazuka, same price with lelong, but i didn't put in whole piece, i break it down to small pieces and try 2 first

for sulawesi, they need higher PH and different mineral combination (US selling pre-mix salt just for sulawesi)
also their natural habitat is quite basic and empty... not fancy fancy like planted tank

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Actually i increase my gh and more calcium is for my crab tank.

They need harder water to molt and almost same with shrimp, so i ask you guyz opinion.
So how to increase gh n more calcium ar?
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hehe noty you.hehehe. anyways, i would love to learn from you on the shrimp.smile.gif. would you mind if sharing some of your experience to me?i would love to go thru your experience since i new and not so wealth person.kekekeke  biggrin.gif
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me 'half tong' only, gottta learn some more, btw since you using ADA new amazonia i can share some experience, this soil although suitable
for shrimps , it is actually more for plants and fishes, to use it for shrimps, you need the soil to stabilize and mature enough. You will experiment
some shrimps dead in the early stage of using this soil if you rush and putting in shrimps after tank is cycled. Reason is ammonia spike is notorious
in ADA soil in early stage, just a little ticker here & there like arrangement stone/decor/plant will lead to ammonia spike.
It took me a good few mths & some occasion gravel vacuuming before the soil stabilize.
Secondly, build a strong beneficial bacteria base, this will ensure proper dispose of toxin and waste in order to maintain clean water.
Ammonia & Nitrite must be zero & Nitrate must be under control as well preferable under or not more then 5ppm, to achieve this beside water change , having some floating plant like duckweed will help absorb the nitrate.
Food and supplement , you need to spend a little on this , get at least those BW Bebi (RM40) . mosura old sea mud(RM19) , BW Shield(RM57),
BW Barley (RM22). Those food will last very long cos you only use a little everyday.


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Actually i increase my gh and more calcium is for my crab tank.

They need harder water to molt and almost same with shrimp, so i ask you guyz opinion.
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GH & Calcium , then get BW White (calcium) & for GH get BW GH UP or mosura mineral plus.
What crab you keeping ? i keep vampire crab & rainbow crab. For vampire crab more headache they not keen on be feed and eat very little,
where-else the rainbow crab are like living rubbish bin , grub down everything eatable you throw at her.

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post May 12 2012, 12:19 PM

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haha....any more ecomy thing can increase gh n water hardness?because i just vampire crab only @arrow. Half land half water design. Will have frequent water changes also n kinda waste if i use those thing. Correct me if i'm wrong smile.gif
Hehe...
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post May 12 2012, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(DecemberRose @ May 12 2012, 12:19 PM)
haha....any more ecomy thing can increase gh n water hardness?because i just vampire crab only @arrow. Half land half water design. Will have frequent water changes also n kinda waste if i use those thing. Correct me if i'm wrong smile.gif
Hehe...
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we on same boat, vampire crab, 8 of them perish in my noob hand, now i have the Qian Hu sponsor RM20 terra tank, i try to redeem my sin, but still scratching head how to care for them. i'm setting half sand half water as well, put in star moss and fissden on lava rock for them to chew on, lucky they are small eater if not both moss goes bald in no time.

i neglected my new shrimps tank , found 2 fire red report to heaven, suspect nitrate build-up as my water lettuce melted producing lot of waste.
and didn't water change for 2 weeks sweat.gif

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sang gemok
post May 13 2012, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ May 12 2012, 11:18 PM)
we on same boat, vampire crab, 8 of them perish in my noob hand, now i have the Qian Hu sponsor RM20 terra tank, i try to redeem my sin, but still scratching head how to care for them. i'm setting half sand half water as well, put in star moss and fissden on lava rock for them to chew on, lucky they are small eater if not both moss goes bald in no time.

i neglected my new shrimps tank , found 2 fire red report to heaven, suspect nitrate build-up as my water lettuce melted producing lot of waste.
and didn't water change for 2 weeks  sweat.gif
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bro, can you sell to me 3 pairs of sakura or fire red shrimp for me to make a tester in my newly tank and some to be bred in my planted?hehehe. i cannot stand to wait lor for my tank to be stable.i like to see them spawning.huhuhu. so desperate of me. my rcs are all female. got 4 of them 1 missing in action.huhu.

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Any one know whr i can get mosura product?

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