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This post has been edited by yewlin: Dec 4 2011, 12:25 AM

new thread!!

HM 1


HM 2


HM 3


HM 4

just got into a spending spree for bettas.

Bought about 15 bettas in 3 week's time with some of them belonging to my gf.

being a beginner , i find it very hard to understand all the specific terms that all the sifus are using and what are the difference. if someone would point me to a link for all the HMPK or list it down here with Images, that would be a great help !

btw, plakat and betta, what's the diff?

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Added on December 8, 2011, 9:10 pmalso the mask when you guys referring to a betta.. what does it mean ?


This post has been edited by exkay: Dec 8 2011, 09:10 PM

What happened to all the others ?

When we say HM or HMPK we are refering to its tail type

Betta Tail Type
VT- Veiltail
HM- Halfmoon (Longfin wif 180 degree D shaped caudal)
PK/TPK - Plakat / Traditional Plakat (shortfins)
HMPK - Halfmoon Plakat (Short fin with 180degree D shaped caudal)
CT - Crowntail (Longfin with web reductions)
KCT - King Crowntails
CTPK - Crowntail Plakat (Shortfin with web reductions)
OHM/OHMPK - Over Halfmoon/Halfmoon Plakat (Long/shortfin with over 180degree caudal spread)


so far tis are the existing terms for show bettas tail type.. other sifu pls add on if i missed out any




also, when we talk about the masking we are refering to the scale of the fish. Masking is a type of scaling that is very thick and u can see this type of scaling in Black Dragons, Red Dragons, Royal Blue.. tis type of scaling is different from normal betta scaling coz its like a plate of shiny armour that covers the fish body over time
So, when we say the fish has Full Masking it means that the thick scale covers the whole of the betta body, especially the head part

HEre is the comparison between a full mask and a non full mask Black Dragon HMPK (ps: photos belong to lee haur of bettafishmalaysia.blogspot.com)

Non Full Mask HMPK



Full Mask HMPK


This post has been edited by daigoro1990: Dec 9 2011, 08:38 PM

thx daigoro.. btw what's a salamander?

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Added on December 10, 2011, 8:38 amdamn, one of my betta jump over his boundry into another guy's side of the tank and fought each other. now one of the guy loss one side of its pectoral fins.... will it regrow back ?


This post has been edited by exkay: Dec 10 2011, 08:38 AM

Salamander is a type of color.. show u an example



tis is a good pic of a salamander(not mine btw). salamander has reddish base color on the body wif purplish coatings.. and they usually have white bandings around the dorsale, caudal and anal fins




and yeah, ur fish fin will grow back.. but it will take time depending on how u care for the fish

Sifu Daigoro, boleh ajar saya apa itu DT? dan DT carrier? is it Delta tail? and apa itu SD? Start Demanding? lolz..

If not mistaken DT is double tail and DT carrier means the fish has double tail genes and might be able to produce Double Tail offsprings.. SD is Super Delta is a type of tail

DT is Double Tail.
i have one.i think is double tail

i think i got post this pic b4

Hello guys;
Just wanna ask. How much is enough it to feed a beta? I don't want to over/underfeed mine.
Thanks in advance.

This post has been edited by Kaos, Disco and Jewel: Dec 13 2011, 03:04 PM

Just sharing some of my cheap bettas.

photos are a slightly over exposed.. not with proper set up yet.

all comments, +ve or -ve are welcomed.


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I feed my betta 4 to 6 blood worms a day or more regard their size. I feed Either dry or frozen blood worm.
You may pay attention to their belly. If too round then is overfed.

good luck in feeding your betta~cheers

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Added on December 14, 2011, 10:10 amWow nice betta~ Love it~
aiya~dun judge fish with price, judge them with your heart~
I got 3 wild bettas, I caught it few weeks ago. Their colour might not so beautiful but they are precious for me^^


This post has been edited by z.koon: Dec 14 2011, 10:10 AM

owner suka then can lo.. unless ur aim is for comp then another story la..

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Added on December 15, 2011, 2:46 ami feed my adult betta once every 2 days with 6 pellet.
however, i feed my fries 6-8 cubes bloodworm per day..

This post has been edited by edmund90: Dec 15 2011, 02:46 AM

any one from penang here???

some of mine fish


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i am new to betta fish.. ^^

mine..





erm.. btw.. what type of betta fish is this ar? Halfmoon?

Yes n no, from Penang but stay in kl now. Back in Penang twice monthly.

There's a Betta expo in pesta, are you going?

got ar? bila??

i din realise tat betta can jump..mine jumped outta the water and its totally dried up with the eyeball missing when i discovered it this morning..

OMG ! yes it can jump when it get scared or threatened... try to cover ur aquarium...i just did mine yesterday...

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Added on December 18, 2011, 3:33 ami have a question, if there is no instruction on the water conditioner label, how am i suppose to know how much to use ? one cap ? i'm using the one that come with the betta set, small bottle...

This post has been edited by x'tine: Dec 18 2011, 03:33 AM

You should cover it.. and summore cicak will eat fish too. my 3 albino guppies is been eaten alive by stupid cicak saw with my own eyes!!

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Added on December 18, 2011, 11:07 amHow big is your fish tank? how many litter or gallon is your fish tank? if u cannot identify actually u can buy a chlorine tester. to test the water chlorine level..

This post has been edited by z.koon: Dec 18 2011, 11:07 AM

mine are half a gallon, i usually put 1 capful, is it gonna overdosed the fish ?

sighhh..guess i'm paying for my stupidity of not covering the aquarium... cicak??..cicak can go underwater kah?..or it wait for the fish to come near the side and snap it up?..

we learn from loss.. I also lose betta from not covering my tank..jump out from the tank and become "ham yu"
actually Cicak very clever~ they use their tail as bait and when the fish get closer, they snap it

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Added on December 19, 2011, 9:06 am OMG you put too much.. but I think it wont harm the fish la..the bottle got mention that overdosed does not harm the fish or nt?? If I'm not mistaken I saw something like that before..my 5 gallon fish tank I'll put 2 capful, for your half gallon I think you can put 1/4 If you feel uncertain you may put the water overnight after you put the anti-chlorine/ water conditioner (actually u need to put it a side at least 4 hours- that's what I'm doing every time i change water)

This post has been edited by z.koon: Dec 19 2011, 09:06 AM

lizard may be one of the cause. they use their tail as bait for the fish. like fishing. true story. hmmmm.. if i'm not mistaken, u can just leave the water overnight without any antichlorine also can. would be better if u can aerate using bubble.

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Added on December 19, 2011, 2:19 pmbtw exkay, how much ur cheap marble hmpk cost?


This post has been edited by mikacarrick: Dec 19 2011, 02:19 PM

need to check something with u guys

noticed one side of my betta gill is slightly open like flaring while the other is close

initially tot he injured himself while squeezing thru a small divider gap but from what i read it's some kind of disease

will the gill heal and close like normal ?

put some antichlorine,let the water aged for 1-2 day or more...add peat to the water during water aging...then put some leaf litter and moss...thats better..lol...that my method for wild betta...hehehe..sorry

abt RM15 if i remember correctly.

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Added on December 21, 2011, 11:57 pmso quiet here....

This post has been edited by exkay: Dec 21 2011, 11:57 PM

MY self Breed HAlfmoon and OverHalfmoon

I've got fries ! ! !Wooot ! (first spawn )

i try many time to breed my betta.. but end ups fail..
can any sifu here teach me some skill bo? or advice?

congrats

yes..we call it aged water.. dont need to put anti chlorine just leave the water in a bucket for 1-2 days den can used adi..
btw by water conditiioner do you guys mean ketapang extract?

Don't know why my this fish changed colour. The fish became darker and half of the back is now all dark blue. Now it looks entirely like a different fish!

I think betta fish is like that when they are in fighting mood they will change to dark colour..when they not they will change back to normal colour

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Added on December 27, 2011, 12:40 pm wow nice crowntail..


This post has been edited by z.koon: Dec 27 2011, 12:40 PM

well fancy(marble) gene betta will change their color due to age or water condition.. some will change to very nice color some will change to colorless or very ugly.. lol..
there is a risk (so call surprise) when keeping fancy/marble betta..

Here he is now:


The red spot on his head is still the same. Still look like a koi from the top Miss those spots though.

thanks edmund90 for teaching me (betta newbie) ... now my betta move from cubicle to bungalow already (move to bigger tank) ... thanks

you are very welcome..

Wah sooooo quiet one here? everyone busy with holidays kah ?

I am putting up some HM for Auction.. lowest piece start from RM1.. kindly go visit this page to view.. http://www.bettasocietymalaysia.com.my/for...=100124#p100124

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Added on January 7, 2012, 6:49 pmSudah RIP (2011)











This post has been edited by edmund90: Jan 7 2012, 06:49 PM

yeah...where all the loyal betta fan?very quiet lately

me still lurking here. all in CNY mood, too busy to talk about betta i assume.

how many day betta can survive without food?




i remember last time i got betta, but i forgot to feed him for 3 days but he still ok ~~~ lucky

i assume is 1 week provided the fish is healthy and have proper diet b4...

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Added on January 16, 2012, 2:10 amAny1 interested with female HM? wanna clear stock.. try to breed is another chapter of betta...

This post has been edited by edmund90: Jan 16 2012, 02:10 AM

red dragon frieesssss

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Added on January 25, 2012, 8:34 pmPlatinum black dragon friess





Their father



This post has been edited by smobu: Jan 25 2012, 08:38 PM

hi, would like to ask if betta likes to jump out from a small fish bowl? intend to keep a betta in one of my small fish bowl but worrying it will jump out to suicide later

by right it wont... to be safe, keep the water level lower a bit lo.. so tat jump also still in the bowl..


why jump?
reason:
1. water not suitable
2. get shock/ afraid
3. saw something at outside the bowl or on top the bowl (try to jump to eat it)


Hope the above can help.. ^^


but may i know which type of small fish bowl u r referring to? (better with pic)

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Added on January 26, 2012, 3:26 pmgood job.. but the anal is a bit too long.. maybe in F2 u might need to choose a shorter anal fish to improve the finnage...

This post has been edited by edmund90: Jan 26 2012, 03:26 PM

urm, no pix now, but you know those like fatty wine glass type of bowl? roughly around that size. so if I don't put full water will be alright?

what water is suitable for betta? and what kind of food?
i glance through the thread, that you're selling betta fishy?

yes i m selling betta...

betta need aged water (google it if dunno) or tap water + anti-chlorine... add lil bit of aquarium salt to prevent disease.
food? jus buy pellet for them will do..

if those normal water then not a problem for me as i'm keeping other fishes too
food, shouldn't be a problem too but only problem is i hope it doesn't jump out from my bowl

keep them in a quiet place and reduce the water level.. usually they wont jump...

Anyone interested with this sp.?Wild Betta Imbellis...typical wild betta in Malaysia....i have 4 pair available...
clearing my betta tank for this sp. . postage can be arrange interested....thanks..pm me for more info...

Thanks for the advice

hi guys.

i m interested to join this thingy. but i m scared that i dont have time for it.

This post has been edited by Variants: Jan 30 2012, 11:37 PM

Hi,come share with us the betta u have keep.. ^^

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Added on January 31, 2012, 12:18 amwelcome... for ur information betta can still survive even though they din eat for more than 5 days..

This post has been edited by edmund90: Jan 31 2012, 12:18 AM

They don't need lots of maintenance

i have few pcs of HMPK to give away, male and female, location klang.
Good for those want to start betta hobby. Finage not so nice.
Although spawn from giant geno father and giant mum, the size really small for a 5 months old betta (about 2 inches).

haii evry one i am new to betta fish..
i have 1VT male, 1DT male and and 1VT female..
try to breed my betta but always fail..

so hard to find female that redy to spwn la... can any one tell me any link that sell female breeder??

female are always ready to spawn when they reach adulthood. have patience my dear padawan.. money can't buy you success..

i have, location klang. my advise get my fish for your breeding.

money cant buy success but without money cant buy nice breeder also.. ><!!

female r not always ready for spawning la.. u need condition it..

This post has been edited by edmund90: Feb 3 2012, 06:30 PM

u r right. but if u dunno how to spawn, nor have the experience, i give you rm300/pair fish oso no use...

haha.. thats true... but however if u really give me i m sure i will straight away sell it.. wakakkaka... just kidding..

try will normal grade 1st lo.. but at the same time dont forget u r giving the same effort.. dont forget if ur fries r not quality fries then what u will do to them in the future(no 1 will buy it)? they still have life.. so without proper planning better dont breed/spawn...

+1

My fav fancy betta go to heaven di. Placed him in a bigger tank alone. Probably the glass tank temperature was fluctuating. Does anyone know if java fern can take salt?

if small amount of salt shud b alright..

temp din really make an impact to the betta unless too cold or too hot.. perhaps maybe ur new tank was not clean.. try sterilize it b4 use..
i usually wash with salt 1st.

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Added on February 5, 2012, 3:53 pmSome of my Collection.. Enjoy.. ^^






This post has been edited by edmund90: Feb 5 2012, 03:53 PM

Thanks, Edmund. Will do that to all my tanks

sifus, wanna ask....if i put my betta tank/container close to my computer speakers will it affect it? not really sticking to it that type jz quite close

betta like quiet place.. it will b no problem if u mute ur speaker 24/7...

imagine u r the betta, do u like sudden earthquake everyday? those wave from the speaker are equivalent to earthquake to them.. unless ur volume r quite low otherwise not recommended.

hi everyone,

i need help ASAP (sorry lol)
my situation, i got a community tank filled with:

1) 1 male lavender veiltail
2) 4 female cambodias (2 ready to spawn)
3) 1 female wildtype (ready to spawn)
4) 1 feather fin catfish
5) 2 chinese algae-eater ( <-- i know i make a wrong pick on this one)
6) A few RCS shrimps (my bettas seemed to ignore them and let them play on their body)

and so, today, the 1 female cambodia decided to mate and spawn eggs with the male.
the problem is, the male haven't make a nest yet, and when the spawning process happen, the male have to occasionally
make the nest after picking the dropped eggs and continue the embracing posture. and sometimes, the other females decided to
ruin the party and the couple ends up chasing the other females away.

So i took the couple lovefish out and put into another tank, put the same tank water in it (height about more than one inch deep), put some plants to help them stick the eggs and making bubble nest easier. collect the remaining eggs from the previous tank and put them in.

they continue doing it for 3 hours, but unfortunately, every time the male try to make bubbles, the bubble pops, is it because i used new clean water?(just did 30% WC yesterday)
can the eggs hatch even without bubble nest? i heard about artificial hatching but in my case, the daddy betta is there and will he try to make the nest? how to help him do that since everytime he does that, the bubbles pop?
the female seemed to be helping the male so i leave it. then i went out for an hour, went i return, the female hid herself from the male so i removed her into a quarantine tank. but her stomach is still bloated with eggs(everytime i took her out from the water, eggs keep spraying on my hand), so i put her back in the spawning tank but got chased by the male, so i removed her again, is it ok? she seemed too tired and got lots of injury. is my decision right or i should put back in the spawning tank?
one more thing, how do i feed the male? should i feed him normally and removed uneaten pellets? do i need to do WC daily for the eggs? if so how much %?
im not planning to use filter in the spawning tank but do i need to use water pump..to regulate the water flow a bit for the eggs to breath?

thanx

jus remove the female and left the male with the egg... no need feed the male. wait 24 hours to see the egg got hatch or not if no then jus forget it..

plz do not keep betta in a comm tank.. ><!!

thankx for the info..
btw, im still really confused about keeping the bettas in community tank. why cant i keep them in there?
when i got them when they were small, i put them in 3g fish tank, but they kinda not moving and look bored all the time. so i decided to put all of them
in the community tank. in there, they like it , they like to play with the slow water flow from the filter, and sumtimes move in a group and also sleep together..no nipping at each other and no fight happened.
plz advice. also i got no other nipping fish species in the tank too.

thanx

for wild betta i not sure but for splenden they r kept individually..

k, thanx.

but i think ill just leave the rest of the female sorority in the community tank since they theres no fighting at the moment and also
since all my tank are currently full..
gonna need to buy a few more i guess.

for female no problem.. but dont mixed a male together with the female..
if wan breed/spawn put the pair in different tank...

Hi guys,

Im newbie. I would love to have betta as hobby. May I know what shud i take note and how is the tank? How is the temp? I see some oversea website they need heater? Don't need filter? Won't the water dirty?

Thanks in advance!

anybody know where to get ketapang leaves / trees in cheras. KL area ?

HEY GUYS im suspecting my betta is facing velvet disease anyone know where can i get aquarium salt in kl ? thanks in advance

use such jar can liao


temp? overseas cold thats y need heater, in msia we dont need those.. normal temp should b alright..
no need filter nor air stone.. water change regularly *at least once a week

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Added on February 10, 2012, 4:02 pmat taman connaught got..

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Added on February 10, 2012, 4:04 pmi blief tat almost 100% fish shop also got sel aquarium salt.. jus go to the shop and say wan buy salt will do..
if the fish already kena velvet better buy med.. salt is more like prevention rather than medication..
suggestion: try buy coppersafe to cure ur fish velvet.. is around rm15-20 like that only.. cant recall..

This post has been edited by edmund90: Feb 10 2012, 04:04 PM

oh! So simple? But use wad water? We need see d ph of d water too right?

jus use aged water will do.. i jus use normal pipe water with anti chlorine..

i use overnight paip water

what is aged water?

means u still use conditioner?
why over night?

means u still use conditioner?
why over night?

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because The temperature will gradually adjust to be the same temperature as in the bowl and the chlorine will evaporate.

http://newaquariuminformation.com/aquarium.../betta-fish.htm

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Added on February 12, 2012, 12:21 am[quote=Celest-Lee,Feb 9 2012, 04:59 PM]Hi guys,

Im newbie. I would love to have betta as hobby. May I know what shud i take note and how is the tank? How is the temp? I see some oversea website they need heater? Don't need filter? Won't the water dirty?

Thanks in advance!

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taking care betta is simple. no need big tank (but if you want also can)
change half the water every week or two depends how dirty it can be
make sure u read bout diseases so incase anything happen to yr betta u can recognised it and cure it ealier

if want to prevent parasite get aquarium salt.

ovrall nothing much no need filter or heater

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Added on February 12, 2012, 12:24 am

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Added on February 10, 2012, 4:04 pm
i blief tat almost 100% fish shop also got sel aquarium salt.. jus go to the shop and say wan buy salt will do..
if the fish already kena velvet better buy med.. salt is more like prevention rather than medication..
suggestion: try buy coppersafe to cure ur fish velvet.. is around rm15-20 like that only.. cant recall..

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thanks for the advice though i managed to get a cheap med which is enough to kill the parasite

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Added on February 12, 2012, 1:46 amANYONE know where i can catch wild bettas? thanks

This post has been edited by tingwei000: Feb 12 2012, 01:46 AM

oh! So just leave d water overnight no need pit anything right?

ya u got r betta dy ?

Haven't.. Going to buy it next weekend with my bf hehe just now when pet safari, and my bf was attract with neon tetra haha