Who is this Dr AA? Is tat the yellow shirt bugger cakap BOHONG besar in front of the big crowd till the angry crowd nearly lost control?

Seriously the nation is screw due to these type of officers sitting at high chairs. Even can dare to tell big lie in front of audience and press. What a coke!

Yes the Aziz guy was the Yellow shirt spin master during the rally in KL. Listen to him speak damn angry, he's the typical UMNO politician, dead oso he can spin until alive.

Withholding evidence whilst threatening to incriminate someone in return for any desired action is essentially Blackmail.

The informant should produce the evidence immediately otherwise it might backfire.

Hi, just wondering, if a BH operates around 7years and never change the external sound (I think) and now if I change it, will it affect the current population inside the BH?? I scared when it's time to enter farm, they couldn't recognise the farm due to diff sound. They will then fly to nearby BH and overnight there? Or it won't affect at all? Hope someone here can enlighten me about this matter

A successful farmer told me don't need to change sound at all if it still attract birds and the nest growth still increase... it means if something is working well, why change?

For myself, I often change the sounds. So, if your farm is successful and nest growth is good, and since you are scare about making this change... then just let it be; don't change for the sake of change unless you are confident that the change will make things much better.

I do not think the birds will be scared and become unfamiliar if you change the sound after 7 years... as long as the sound is a good one. Even if the sound is an average one, they will still come back to their nests. Just make sure its not SOS/distress sounds or fighting sounds. Good sounds are needed to attract young birds from outside your farm to visit and perhaps stay permanently.

Mainstream media lying by omission or commission has appeared in the coverage of the local EBN conspiracy news. Compare different versions, you will find out for yourself. To make mainstream media mainstream, we should discard the one that withholds information given by the informant but support the one that tells all.

I strongly advice that no sound should be change if the birds still coming and if only for that particular time that you see no birds, it doesn't mean that you are not attracting any birds; use your other senses esp. common sense and see around you and if others BHs also no birds, do you think by changing sound, you will get birds. Then, if that the truth, I will advice you to pray to GOD and He may do better job cos where to find birds if there are none in the sky at that moment and only GOD can help you at that moment as only He has the power of creation and not any super Konsultants. Birds are no human and human, I still prefer Oldies and never take the liking to the new songs and I find these new human songs tasteless but it only me or are there many that share my feelings and afraid to say out for fear of being branded Old or out of time.

Remember your reason of using sound is to get birds and if bird are coming, then why change and pls. remember the saying of the man and his giant snake. You may chase away the very new birds supposedly yours in the very near future. Change sound only when you find your sound isn't effective anymore.........then, you have all to gain; these you need not SunTzu or Kong Tzu to teach you and little me will do......... Someone told you that the birds will get bored with the old song same days after days and who is He who told you this or is He the swiftlet God!

He is just another human and if he is selling sound, then he must has $$$$$ reason to want you to do it........
For town BHs, so as not to disturb neighbors, I advice successful BHs owners not to use any more sound as these will disturb the neighbors and to prove the point, I pulled down all the tweeters wires and removed the Amps from my BH and till today......after 5 years of doing so, my BH still attract birds and the increment is very good. Although with sound, it maybe better but wrong sound will also worsen it, too but the point is that successful BHs can and will draw in birds by the incoming birds and original sound of the birds that you have. The Warning is that raayat are very unhappy with the sound pollution and each BHs are trying to outplay other in this art. Sooner or later, Owners themselves will be blamed for giving the Local Authorities the valid reason to move all BHs out of town. All you need is to give them the reason "Raayat Dahulu".

Hope friends here do share my view on the above subject and have different opinion, pls. do share and we are gain.........

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Added on August 4, 2012, 10:54 amI was informed but without concrete evidence, discriminating or incriminating someone will get us in to trouble and so, I rather use "Rumor" only...................So, provide "EVIDENCE" for all to share, please...................

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Added on August 4, 2012, 10:59 amNo worry, cos your Old Birds will remember your BH even if you repaint the BH as the birds have all good senses even the location of your entrance hole at dark night........did I mentioned that one friend change his entrance and some of his old birds flied straight in to the blocked entrance during the night..........a case of over confidence and did not use their sonar....

This post has been edited by West Wing: Aug 4 2012, 02:21 PM

WW,

Welcome back. Nice to see your creative writings again.

This post has been edited by bmanz: Aug 7 2012, 10:55 AM

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Kohloh where are your boys lately? B and W. They dont collect nests anymore?

they came out last 2weeks but not many seller laa,,,,,
factory aready had enough stock till raya so fr not taking risk jus hav to wait after raya wait see when is those krayawan coming back fr work & also hav to wait fr HK to call then only we dare to draw,,,,not like those days liau la bro,,,,but after today news surely farmers will hold tight tight e stock so early holiday fr raya la,,,lets see wat happen 1month frm now,,,,,

This post has been edited by kohloh: Aug 4 2012, 07:05 PM

you say those 2 were your boys leh. or different person i wonder?

Guys, I decided to change the external sound and guess what...i get almost double the population i currently already have! Around 7-7.30pm I saw lots of birds (i assume they are new cause they flew into the entrance then straight away fly out...some even go in the entrance abit then come out d...then circle circle and go in again).
Is it normal? They havent even go down to the nesting area...

They did it for few times then after that enter straight without coming out already ^.^ I just hope they "enjoy" their stay...
After 7.30pm i still saw this kinda case, but mostly at this time, all the oldies came back...fly/dive straight into the entrance hole. Like so confident like that...hahaha...some came back alone, some in pairs and some in a group of 4 (enter 1 by 1).

The feeling of watching them fly/dive in really good! haha.. Hopefully this will maintain la... Gonna continue using the new sound for 1 week and see how.
Ps. the night before (still the old sound), i waited since 6pm...i din see anything like tonight... all i see is, around 7.45pm, all the oldies came back and enter straight into the entrance...
The question is, let's say those new birds enjoy their stay and the next evening, they came back, will they still "hesitate" to enter the entrance? or will just fly/dive in like the oldies?

Im sorry but I don know why I can't embed the video here...

Click here to view!

This post has been edited by simplicity1224: Aug 4 2012, 10:29 PM

Changing the sound usually attracts new birds.

7 - 7.30pm is not a good time to guage whether you are calling new birds, as this is also the time when the old birds already living n nesting in the BH are returning. Will be best to check if the new sound is attracting birds at all times before 6pm. (2 hrs before the Azan-sunset)

Returning birds surprised by the new sound will fly out and then fly back in.

It is always fun to watch the returning birds and also spot the owls if they are attacking.

You need CCTV inside the dog kennel or roving room to see if the new sound is getting the birds into the nesting room and whether your roving room is conducive to the birds from they way they fly in and around.

This post has been edited by tuckfook: Aug 6 2012, 04:22 PM

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So many times they told us of D news and so many times they lied or is this one of their lies to shut our mouth for awhile until they come out with another strategy or should I say "How to skin a BH farmers".

These guys have tried to prevent us from exporting to China and failing to force us into submission due to the export of EBN to HK and then to China. They prevent us from even taking out the nests...like this also can and at least, we protest loudly and Ah Jip Ko overheard about it and intervened and now, they pretend to make correction and pray to God that I am wrong for otherwise there will still be another "Esok dan Lusa". If I am wrong, I gladly apologies with sincerity to "whom this may concerned" cos it's ll posted "without prejudice" at all and hope to see "Bright sky and everything nice" when we wake up tomorrow.

Since they told us everything is OK so export to HK and other countries should be allow immediately and the unpleasant and unhealthy banners at Airport taken off cos tourists will not be able to buy our birdnests and take out of the country. All my life, this is the first time that I see a elected government intentionally disallow home grown products from exporting for their personal gain. If there is a shortage for local consumption, that I will understand but then Malaysian don't really like to take Birdnests on regular basis and so much of birdnests, how to sell locally........... maybe, if we make them into "Keropok" and sell, then maybe laku...5 pcs for satu ringgit!!!!!!!!!

Why only September cos it's over Full Moon festival and another round of low price, I guess...or that no Flight to China until September???? Don't be happy yet cos the storm is still no over yet only we heard from the radio that blue sky is on the way.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Aug 7 2012, 11:39 AM

well, get used to malaysian way....

maybe next year we might need NRIC for each cow being slaughtered from

This conspiracy to have a choke hold on the bird nests trade is salivating to the idiots involve that it will take a while before they will be truly willing to let go... its like the Chinese saying of letting a cooked duck fly away just when they are about to sink their jaws into the duck... The new bird nests farmer association stated that they will conduct two more demos to enlighten all farmers as to the dangers we are still in... Its really a pain in the ass that we innocent farmers trying hard to make a buck is sucked into this vortex of business conspiracy. Do hope this travesty will somehow or rather sort itself out and for things to get back to normal soon.

They are passing the protocol tomo??

so, all small cleaning centres throughout Malaysia need to close shops???? Who is going to feed the kampung folks??? Where are we going to sell the remaining 95% nests? Dump it to the sea!!!

And we Please please please for nothing?

This post has been edited by ChanK: Aug 8 2012, 08:39 PM