Ms Carol hit the BULL-EYE when published the Bernama article on the big screen that Indonesia already obtained clearance to export to China with 70ppm. The meeting just shown how daring those buggers sitting at high chairs telling big lies in front of the audiences even dare to talk loud trying to oppress the voice.

Malaysians are generally very patient lot, gullible at times, kena con left right centre. Like burung kakak kena lead to slaughter house.

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Added on July 22, 2012, 4:12 pmNo offense just an example.

Say one nest A from XX country with 100ppm, another nest B from M'sia with 30ppm and with RFID whatsoever.

How do we ensure the China official wouldn't remove the RFID whatsoever and stick to nest A and claimed nest A from M'sia with RFID failed to meet the health requirement??

Next time see this yellow shirt bugger again, asked him see how he answer.

This post has been edited by Bobby C: Jul 22 2012, 04:12 PM

Yes, on 29th. protest and I can't go but hope that someone bring along banner of NO 30PPM but 70PPM like others

No please anymore cos we are angry, feel cheated and mad and we demand our freedom, The freedom to export like everybody else meaning other countries. Please is for no more "cheating on us" and making us like FOOL for a year.

Honesty and truthful are what we want for our Wakil Raayat and those Gmen officials are supposedly servants to the Raayat and not our BOSSES lah! So, serve us and no more LIES and Bullshit!!!!!

hehehehe,,,Chai CD jus said in news ""me also not aggree with RFID""

knn why dont he wait till next year only say,,,,,,

Whoever can speak on our behalf is beneficial... CSL being the head of MCA certainly has some weight in the current government and remember... this swiftlet business was first promoted by MCA some years ago as a possible business for Chinese entrepreneurs who have less and less opportunities to find livelihoods in viable enterprises. I at least am pleased that our collective voices had been heard and hope that better things will quickly follow-let the Agriculture ministry help us instead of hindering us. We need all the help we can get as things might go downhill rapidly if nothing is done as quickly as possible.

It was good to hear that the splinter group at Seberang Prai is staying united with the national association and it will be good for them to follow through with the demo on 29-7-12 in which not just RFID is on the agenda but also the raising of the 30ppm to 70ppm as per Indonesia and Thailand and also the quick lifting of export to Hong Kong and China.

This post has been edited by philoswiflet: Jul 23 2012, 06:11 AM

It is obvious that yellow shirt MOA guy is heavily with the implementation of RFID, maybe even got vested interest in it himself.

If he is the guy that has been dealing with the Chinese for the past year, of course no result la. Because he keep on coming up with outrageous ideas, to make this work this guys needs to be replaced.

"Tetapi...........Tetapi", he keeps on using subtle threat against all the attendees, hopefully someone can dig up some info on him and the RFID company and make him lose his job.

News just came out,our datuk liaow said by Monday all nests can export to china Liao.

Tetapi....Tetapi!!!!

All nests must have RFID attached in each box. And he never mentioned raw nests can export or not.

So, what is tht means?

Seems liked tukar packaging but ubat sama kan?

Hai, why after 21.7 still the same one....

Maybe we have to gives them even more pressures on 29.7.

We have to attend 29.7 protest in safari club,opposite juru bird park.

1pm.

Anyone going there? Since we have learn to shout please,please,please...we should also have to learn.

Please step down, please step down, please step down.

DL has sent me SMS requesting support for the 29th. since I will be in London at the time, maybe we can help them to spread the news and request support for the protest. Anything is better than sitting down and await for the guillotine.


Or maybe there need not a protest anymore if the MOA do a 180 degree turn like CSL in the recent paper. If everything back to normal, then all peace and many thanks to AJIB KOR if he lend us his powerful hand........ but there isn't much time and we surely hope to hear the good News in 2 days.......my opinion only.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Jul 24 2012, 06:39 PM

Support !

29.7.12., 1PM, Safira Club.

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Added on July 24, 2012, 8:35 pmOur Minister said RFID is requested by China Govt woh...believe it or not?

NO. BS.

This post has been edited by ChanK: Jul 24 2012, 08:35 PM

Who is telling the truth?

Another flip flop.....see Star by our Deputy Agriculture Minister.....

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...1207&sec=nation

Actually I still not clear about RFID? The China request the tracking from processing factory or start from the farm? If from the factory why don't just go ahead as long as raw nest can export as well?

One says this and the other says that; We ranchers are the losers and we just want to know why we need RFID in the first place as even if what the Minister said is true, we aren't effected as we are not exporting at all. If the Minister or his Deputy or his officer were lying and mislead the Raayat, we, the Raayat demand his resignation!!!!!!

We read from reliable sources that there was no such need and if other countries do not need it, why do we need it or is it our own doing that make the Chinese require the special requirement from our country. From what I gather that our neighbors do not need RFID and only 70PPM and why our's 30PPM or is this a way to prevent us from exporting unprocessed nests and need to sell to the selected processing plants in Malaysia to export.

Secondly,
1. If really required, only export to China will be effected and not to other countries.
2. China should follow international regulations and by its own regulations or is it our own doing.
3. If China really insist it , the exporters should be the ones that need it in order to export to China and for that it's none of our buz at all..........
4. Why ban the export to HK when HK never require such regulations and only HK can decide if we can or not export to HK and not up to our authorities to meddle or be involved. The authorities are there to help and make it more easier to export and not the other way round. How HK going to export the nests are not our concern at all even if HK buy and burn all; it's their nests then and what to prevent them from saying the nests are of Thailand or any countries at all.
5. Only the Chinese authorities can impost these requirements on us and then, the exporters here and others will need to abide the requirements or otherwise the goods will be confiscated by the Chinese Authorities. We hope our authorities to help us to be able to export but not to prevent us from export or cause more hardship than what we are suffering now....

My opinions on the matter discussed.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Jul 25 2012, 01:45 PM

Well said. Recently, our Gomen really treat us like small kids or "mental cacat" people. Things that they said are just rediculous and no responsibility. I am really worried for our next generation.

I was there last Saturday and he always used "tetapi" to give us a warning... I wanted to ask them what is their "value" in the whole issues? We don't need a postman or blood sucker in between..

A little politic if all don't mind:

I only wish the MCA understand that why MCA was set up and that's to represent the Malaysian Chinese but if MCA don't and fail to protect us and need the Umno to do so and also the Gerakan which so far never said a good word for us; then it's shall be a case of " Harap pagar, Pagar makan padi"...then we shall burn down the pagar....... then, we all shall join UMNO....

I was there, too but was so mad and angry when he mentioned "Tetapi" that we are very closed to be able to export to China and if we are against the RFID, then it's back to square one. I cried out "BOHONG" and "TIPU" cos if they really want to help, then even if they need to walk to China, they would have been back a long long time ago!!!!!! He was trying to scare us and we aren't afraid anymore cos we have already gone thru the scare part long ago and now we are mad; MAD and ANGRY cos we have been played out and been cheated all these time!!!!

Presently most of BH owners are Malaysian of Chinese origin. Again, my opinion out of anger and I am not of the opposition but borned MCA life member.

Apology if needed. without prejudice as usual.

HELLO UNCLE,
its "Rakyat" not Raayat all the time,,,,hehehe,,,

its not CN tat required e RFID at the start,its our gov tat "ada udang sebalik" tat add into e protocol ,so e Chua showed in e protocol is wat suggested&added early into their wat call protocol so can songlap ma,,

I am not an exporter but will tell you this that with the new regulations, there is no way for unprocessed nests to be exported @ 30PPM and why.

1. Unprocessed nest do carry some waste and exporters will need to wet the nests before shipment to prevent any damage to the nests. By wetting the nests, the Ns will increase during the transportation and will end up having higher PPM than approved.

2. There will no way to export unprocessed nests if they insist on 30 PPM and even at 70PPM, one must also clear most of the waste in the nests in order to pass the requirement. So, at 70PPM, most of my nests will not passed unless I partly clean the nests of the waste inside.

My friend once send his unprocessed dry nests for test and found to be lower than 30PPM and he never know that by wetting the nests and seal it in to the boxes will increase the N by many time if you don't ensure it clean...

Am I correct as I am not an professional expert or scientist for that matter; just one "busybody who talk too much".

Maybe, our KL can add his comment on the matter?

This post has been edited by West Wing: Jul 25 2012, 03:20 PM

again uncle Raayat
bring yr raw nest i show u how to lower e nitrite even to 10ppm/1kg not cleaned fr raw exporting.We can export raw even with jus 10ppm nitrite & ship it wet but gov say u know the added value ah??=rmb$2,000 fr 1pieces Wooooooh!!!! tats what malay brain la,,,,or jus an excuse to mono,,u know i know la,,,

jus listen carefuly wat they say"we hav submit e protocol but china dont wanna sign it first"means e protocol in english&chinese r wirten by who??

= jus fr laugh,,,,,

http://www.malaysia-chinese.net/cgi-bin/cz...2/07/61726.html
http://www.malaysia-chinese.net/cgi-bin/cz...2/07/61746.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...d&v=jvsngtmalIA

This post has been edited by kohloh: Jul 25 2012, 04:16 PM

1. Thanks for the offer and will C U on how to do it but no dirty way or illegal method lah.
2. All of us know why but the MOA insist that it's all China requirements all these while but maybe, it's the only way to save faces.
3. Busibody me won't be around for a week cos I m on holiday to London to see not Olympic but to rest...........

4. Hope those attending the 29th. protest well and success but don't do anything that you will regret. Anyone here going, pls convey my warmest regards to DL.....

Lastly, KohLoh, "no Uncle" from U to me or otherwise, how to go China together as if I M taking my nephew to China...so me and U, Brother only.........We were taught "Raayat" then and old Dog never learn new word lah..hhahahahha

Ok la bang,
enjoy yr self at London but kanasai e open ceremony ticket is rm$10,000+ la.
as now CN cannot go la,,,raided fr over 45days,Every things raid,,even yr favorite town also close fr over 45days liau fr yr info,,,
restorant frozen food also raid,distributions center fr all kinds of imported goods also raid,,,
CN tis time no play play,,every thing raid & many of its top officer all kena lock up aready,,,new premier coming & he is well know to fight corrupt,,
donno show time or wat but mus wait & ride e strom over la,,,,

take care guys,,,,

One of the objective of 29.7 protest is to gather signatures of all farmers to bantah RFID, allow raw nests export n no monopoly in bn industry. We already have 3,000 farmers protesting it last week....

Why not the organiser of 29.7 distribute the signatures forms and those who cannot go still can submit their signatures as support?

We are running out of time, we need to act fast.

Anyone know the organiser? Please call or SMS them whether this will work or not, as even in selangor 21.7 not all selangor farmers attend tht meeting but I was there representing 100 of my relatives who also involved in this industry.

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Added on July 25, 2012, 5:16 pmThis is only for those tht really cannot attend the protest and it is still very very critical for all farmers to go to the protest but they can kumpul all signatures and sent representatives to submit it on tht day.


This post has been edited by ChanK: Jul 25 2012, 05:16 PM

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