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 V4. Swiftlet Keeping Discussions, All About Swiftlet Keeping Industry

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Semuabumi
post Jul 26 2012, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Jul 25 2012, 01:42 PM)
One says this and the other says that; We ranchers are the losers and we just want to know why we need RFID in the first place as even if what the Minister said is true, we aren't effected as we are not exporting at all. If the Minister or his Deputy or his officer were lying and mislead the Raayat, we, the Raayat demand his resignation!!!!!!

We read from reliable sources that there was no such need and if other countries do not need it, why do we need it or is it our own doing that make the Chinese require the special requirement from our country. From what I gather that our neighbors do not need RFID and only 70PPM and why our's 30PPM or is this a way to prevent us from exporting unprocessed nests and need to sell to the selected processing plants in Malaysia to export.

Secondly,
1. If really required, only export to China will be effected and not to other countries.
2. China should follow international regulations and by its own regulations or is it our own doing.
3. If China really insist it , the exporters should be the ones that need it in order to export to China and for that it's none of our buz at  all..........
4. Why ban the export to HK when HK never require such regulations and only HK can decide if we can or not export to HK and not up to our authorities to meddle or be involved. The authorities are there to help and make it more easier to export and not the other way round. How HK going to export the nests are not our concern at all even if HK buy and burn all; it's their nests then and what to prevent them from  saying the nests are of Thailand or any countries at all.
5. Only the Chinese authorities can impost these requirements on us and then, the exporters here and others will need to abide the requirements or otherwise the goods will be confiscated by the Chinese Authorities. We hope our authorities to help us to be able to export but not to prevent us from export or cause more hardship than what we are suffering now....

My opinions on the matter discussed.
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All Political motive lahh..... you believe China request it. China can not even control their poisonous milk powder! think about.


Added on July 26, 2012, 8:54 amAi Ya! Sama sama like the Fishery Dept few years back lah. All sama gang one under one roof like the Mamak gang want to sampu $$$. Do you think they care about all Swiftlet farmers welfare? They imposed all fishermen must use the new cooler box from an Alibaba company. If not no fishing license will be issued. The new cooler box is more expensive, poor quality and all you know Malaysia boleh type. By doing this the Alibaba company makes millions over night.

You guys still don’t get it knnb. I think you all must go back to kinder garden lah oooiii

Bye bye Swiftlet farming. Welcome politicking and easy money making...



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tuckfook
post Jul 26 2012, 10:07 PM

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M’SIA SWIFTLET BREEDERS ASSOCIATION will be organizing a ONE MALAYSIAN above political parties and races peaceful MALAYSIA RESCUE SWIFTLET BREEDERS SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN & ASSEMBLY held on 29th July @ 1 pm in SAFIRA COUNTRY CLUB, Butterworth, nearby SUNWAY and directly opposite Penang Bird’s Park.

Attached are the proposed RESOLUTIONs which will be passed in the 729 ASSEMBLY. Please feel free to print out as handbills to be distributed or to be posted up in the websites.

For your latest info, reliable source confirmed that, due to mounting pressure and appeal from the M'SIA BREEDERS ASSOCIATION's firm and without compromise stand to organize the ASSEMBLY as scheduled, the CABINET is finally on the toes doing something positive now, hopefully.

Do not be surprised that what the breeders are insisting legitimately would become reality soon. But as long as it is not in black & white and official, we shall continue to launch more protests and awareness wave after wave till all our legitimate demands met.

Nonetheless, there are quarters with reasons known to them trying hard to sabotage by spreading rumours and discouraging breeders to attend this assembly.

Please invite as many as possible to support. Those who wish to say something to the floor would be given opportunity. Those who wish to join us in the Association are gladly welcome. Please be aware, we are all in the same boat and this boat belongs to the genuine breeders of M'SIA. It is truly an ASSOCIATION and not ASSOCIATION SDN BHD in disguise and tool for some unscrupulous political bugs and cronies. It does not belong to any individual with hidden agenda. No one can dictate us as we are truly democratic as much as we could. We shall fight these greedy evils at all cost till victory and let them taste their own shit.

Not only your positive comments and suggestions we need, but also we need your physical participation, help and financial support in any way to enable us to continuously to fend the rights of the breeders and those in the industry from future abuses.

Regards,
David Lim 012-4850778
Advisor To M’sia Swiftlet Breeders Association

大马燕农公会将在7月29日下午1时在北海SUNWAY付近和飞禽公园正对面的SAFIRA COUNTRY CLUB以一个大马人,超越政党和种族,举办和平救我燕农签名抗议大集会。

以上付件是大马燕农公会将在729集会提出和通过的提案。请把它印成传单派出去或转去其他网站共享。

最新可靠消息,由於大马燕农公会的绝不向恶势力,滥权,利诱和威胁妥协的坚强鲜明立场,经已迫使内阁深切关注而马不停蹄开始积极纠正错误了。相信很快有好消息了。然燕农公会在没确实见到黑白和正式公函肯定所有我们所诉求合法和合理基本要求彻底解决前,燕农绝不罢休将继续一波接一波全国各地发动抗议与醒觉集会。

然而,却有人和团体在大力散播谣言和阻止外地燕农来参与义举!

请尽力通知和邀请其他燕农和受影响者来支持 。我们也将尽量给机会其他有意在集会上吐心声。我们也无任欢迎有诚意和愿意献身或协助的人士来一起领导捍卫。不要忘记,全体燕农都是坐在同一艘船上,这艘船是属於全国燕农的。这是一个真正民主的公会。它绝不是冒牌公会有限公司或政治虫的工具。没有一个有不良意呈的敢企图误导或骑却我们,因我们将全力反抗到底确保他自食其果。

我们也接受善意批评和建议。除此之外,我们更需你的参与,协助和财务上的支持让我们能继续不断和长期捍卫燕农今后的权益。


马来西亚燕农公会顾问
林大伟敬约
012-4850778


PERSATUAN
PENTERNAK
BURUNG
WALIT
MALAYSIA
MALAYSIA SWIFTLET BREEDERS ASSOCIATION
马来西亚燕农公会

主题: 救我燕农签名抗议大集会
TITLE: SELAMATKAN PENTERNAK BURUNG WALIT
MALAYSIA.
MALAYSIA RESCUE SWIFTLET BREEDERS ASSEMBLY
口号: 救我燕农,保经济!政府政策,要透明!
SLOGAN: RESCUE FARMERS, ENSURE ECONOMY
STABILITY.

建议提案:

1. 即刻全面取消从燕屋至出口安装RFID。
2. 即刻全面取消所有有关燕业出口的繁文褥节、不利措施及苛刻条规,
还我简易程序 (卫生检疫证,原产地证及出口证) 。
3. 即刻开放各类燕窝包括毛燕出口。
4. 维护燕业贸易自由,拒绝垄断。
5. 要求政府部门作出任何有关燕业的决策之前,务必咨询马来西亚燕农公
会。

PROPOSED RESOLUTIONS:

1. TO ABOLISH APPLICATION OF RFID FROM BIRD’S NEST
HOUSE TILL EXPORT.
2. TO ABOLISH & NULLIFY IMMEDIATELY ALL BUREAUCRATIC
MEASURES & STRINGENT RULINGS & TO REVERSE TO
PREVIOUS SIMPLE & FRIENDLY PROCEDURES OF ONLY HEALTH
CERTIFICATE, CERTIFICATE OF ORIGIN & EXPORT PERMIT.
3. TO DEMAND THE IMMEDIATE OPEN UP FOR EXPORT OF ALL
TYPES OF BIRD’S NEST PRODUCTS ESPECIALLY THE RAW UN-
CLEANED NESTS.
4. TO INSIST ON TOTAL FREEDOM OF TRADE AND NO
MONOPOLY.
5. THAT THE BREEDERS ASSOCIATION BE CONSULTED
AS THE RIGHTFUL AUTHORITY & REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
TRADE BY ALL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES CONCERNED BEFORE

ANY DECISION ON MATTERS RELATING TO THE BIRD’S NEST
INDUSTRY MADE.
mois
post Jul 26 2012, 10:17 PM

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There are still tons of illegal bird houses around. Some of the farmers tried to apply for license but the state government in Sarawak never bother to issue the licenses. In fact they only issued a very few licenses for crony mainly Rimbunan Hijau as i remember. Any farmers from sarawak here?
ChanK
post Jul 26 2012, 10:28 PM

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Fight for ur own rights!!!! Gather farmers in Sabah n Sarawak. Save yourselves.
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post Jul 26 2012, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(ChanK @ Jul 26 2012, 10:28 PM)
Fight for ur own rights!!!! Gather farmers in Sabah n Sarawak. Save yourselves.
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Easier said than done. Need someone like big shot to initiate this kind of thing. tongue.gif Btw Chank, how is your area bird nest price? Now here is lowest. After harvest also sakit hati sad.gif RM1500-RM1700 only.
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post Jul 27 2012, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(mois @ Jul 26 2012, 11:39 PM)
Easier said than done. Need someone like big shot to initiate this kind of thing.  tongue.gif  Btw Chank, how is your area bird nest price? Now here is lowest. After harvest also sakit hati  sad.gif  RM1500-RM1700 only.
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same here in east coast, but some are prrocessing it domestically...


ChanK
post Jul 27 2012, 08:40 AM

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Bro mois, u never try already said difficult how?

U have ur own bn association,did u join them?

Why don't u ask the association,take this opportunity to use persatuan penternak burung walit association signature's drive to bring Sabah/sarawak dillemma to spotlights too. As just giving out few licenses mean monopoly too.

Unite. Call them. Do your part.

Your own rice bowl now at risk and you expect others to help you? Come on.


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post Jul 27 2012, 12:54 PM

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Please forward this to others and to print it out. Please help to collect as many signatures from people who are against the abuse of system and power and the practice of MONOPOLY. After signatures collected, please either send by post, fax or scan & email to the Msia Swiftlet Breeders Association latest by 1st August. These signatures would be compiled and enclosed together with the MEMORANDUM to AH JIB GOR.


Who can sign? Farmers, all those involved directly or indirectly in the industry, families, relatives, workers, friends and those feel like supporting.



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post Jul 28 2012, 06:14 AM

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Yes, it was a bit of a drive and fly to assembly for some, but knowing people don't get past their
ignorance and complacency to support a good cause is a worthwhile effort.

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Well,on the way back from London and what's latest news?????????

The Britons are complaining of all tickets sold but at least 20% of the seats are empty........here, hopefully, better news on EBN???? There, the Chinese and Korean want to lose @ Badminton and it's the first time in Olympic that both sides want to lose and black card for both team, what's a laugh. A disgrace for England in this Olympic....I think with it, down come the present Govt, too.

Still nothing on EBN and the protest's result and what's Ah Jib Ko say???

Oh yes!!!!

Just phone up my local Swiftlets President and was told that Ah Jib Ko has instructed that no RFID required and now, it's up to the department to change the Protocol agreement...

Now, shouldn't the export of EBN be allowed to other places like HK where there isn't any restriction on EBN?

I also heard that Indo and Thai may face difficulties to export EBN to China due to the Ban of bird flu affected countries which Malaysia is free from and for that, the problem may arise that the neighboring countries may again want to use Malaysia as a gateway to China once the requirement is not there............

Just my 5 sen information on the matter and anyone has better or more reliable infos, pls forward here for all to know and have peace of mind........... don't curse me if wrong as I M just trying to help all @ swiftlets.

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Welcome home. Maybe Chinese swimmer has EBN regularly which explains for her phenomenal swim.

Penang missed much support from EBN house owners from the East Coast. Maybe you can organise another rally in the East coast.

Indonesia will always want to use Malaysia as an outlet because of the Import duties. Quote HKTDC "In China import duty for HS 04100010 birds nest is levied at 25% plus VAT 17% ad valorum (on value basis, not on weight basis) for import from most favoured nations."

Also Malaysia will get blamed for high nitrite, adulterated EBN, Red EBN etc. when EBN from Indon is re exported through Malaysia. A very clever move by some greedy Malaysians



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QUOTE(tuckfook @ Aug 2 2012, 04:04 PM)
Welcome home. Maybe Chinese swimmer has EBN regularly which explains for her phenomenal swim.

Penang missed much support from EBN house owners from the East Coast. Maybe you can organise another rally in the East coast.

Indonesia will always want to use Malaysia as an outlet because of the Import duties. Quote HKTDC "In China import duty for HS 04100010 birds nest is levied at 25% plus VAT 17% ad valorum (on value basis, not on weight basis) for import from most favoured nations."

Also Malaysia will get blamed for high nitrite, adulterated EBN, Red EBN etc. when EBN from Indon is re exported through Malaysia. A very clever move by some greedy Malaysians
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Rumor has it that the RFID requirements was caused by some in the Fed. Swiftlets Associations in cooperation with the Govt. Department Heads to skin us well and that this has backfired and if this is the truth, I am scared that there will be backlashes and revenge on us, BH owners and exporters later as we cause them to lose alot in miscalculated greedy venture..

As I said that it's just Rumors only unless someone here have evidence on it and so all said/posted here are " without prejudices " otherwise someone may want to sue me on the matter. These days, we can't afford being sued, legal and court fees are very expensive......may come to million ringgit!!!!! Winning or losing is another matter and only Lawyers make the money.
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Tsproven, do you accept bird's nests instead of Rp? I have bird's nests but no money... cry.gif
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今晚02.08.2012, Ntv7 10:30劲料新闻将报导,马来西亚救燕业委员会主席卢奕荣向报​界宣称掌握官商勾结垄断燕窝市场证据,直呼 Noh Omar和 Dr Abdul Aziz下台,不然将发动万人集会和准备提呈首相与反贪会
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QUOTE(kohloh @ Aug 2 2012, 08:18 PM)
jeng,,,jeng,,,jeng,,,

今晚02.08.2012, Ntv7 10:30劲料新闻将报导,马来西亚救燕业委员会主席卢奕荣向报​界宣称掌握官商勾结垄断燕窝市场证据,直呼 Noh Omar和 Dr Abdul Aziz下台,不然将发动万人集会和准备提呈首相与反贪会
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Should just release the evidence, that Abdul Aziz guy has no shame even during the protest he can 睁着眼睛说瞎话. These ppl need to kill them off completely only they will learn.

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