This should be a good news. Happy holding!
V4. Swiftlet Keeping Discussions, All About Swiftlet Keeping Industry
V4. Swiftlet Keeping Discussions, All About Swiftlet Keeping Industry
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Jan 5 2012, 12:35 PM
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This should be a good news. Happy holding!
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Jan 5 2012, 12:38 PM
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Anyone selling more than RM2K lately ?
This post has been edited by aeiou228: Jan 5 2012, 12:39 PM |
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Jan 5 2012, 12:45 PM
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Jan 5 2012, 01:34 PM
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As much as i want to believe.
I hope the government is serious and on the matter. Rumor has that the election will be as soon as February/March/April. From our government's track record, let say BN win. I think everything will go back to square 1. All they care is themselves, license here n there. Yes they can't seem to solve some simple problems. |
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Jan 5 2012, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Jan 3 2012, 10:41 PM) my goodness forcing the 1M concept down our throats ? Maybe some U*** peoples notice can make money out this EBN and start to make the whole business into a company and start supply to other countries...if only a few guys can export EBN then smaller guys (new guys like me) no chance already. No money, no play. In the mean time, process n selling to local market lo. at least earn some red packet $ Just an assumptions .. |
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Jan 5 2012, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Jan 3 2012, 03:22 PM) anyways after xmas many bh in my area flooded jor. haha. if anyone doing BH @ asa jaya should knw. Im glad mine no major issue. Even my solar system still function w/o sun for so many days. thank goodness. no cut in music... |
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Jan 5 2012, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(tigerwui @ Jan 5 2012, 03:15 PM) Hi Gerald, I was at Asajaya that day nearly cannot go home... My uncle bird house flooded and backup battery immersed in water, I saw the water level reach to his chest when he walk into his bird house... Be careful, even 12v car batteries can kill when in a flooded area.Flood water will cause the batt to discharge after a short while but if there is still charge and you touch one terminal with your body whilst the other is flooded you can get a high current discharge through your body. If you happen to touch both terminals, good luck. Dry human skin is a fair insulator but wet skin not so. Where is Asajaya? |
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Jan 6 2012, 01:26 AM
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QUOTE(tigerwui @ Jan 5 2012, 03:15 PM) Hi Gerald, I was at Asajaya that day nearly cannot go home... My uncle bird house flooded and backup battery immersed in water, I saw the water level reach to his chest when he walk into his bird house... wah! tats bad! I moved the battery up from floor about 1m. Just in case. Luckily the flood water didnt get in. Only rain water from the roof. my friend's one up to his waist.QUOTE(tuckfook @ Jan 5 2012, 06:00 PM) Be careful, even 12v car batteries can kill when in a flooded area. good advice, its always good to be cautious when dealing with electricity no matter the voltage. Flood water will cause the batt to discharge after a short while but if there is still charge and you touch one terminal with your body whilst the other is flooded you can get a high current discharge through your body. If you happen to touch both terminals, good luck. Dry human skin is a fair insulator but wet skin not so. Where is Asajaya? Asa Jaya is about 1 hours plus drive North East from Kuching city. |
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Jan 6 2012, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE Malaysian bird’s nests to re-enter China in April MALAYSIAN bird's nests are expected to re-enter the Chinese market in April, months after allegations surfaced that high levels of nitrate were found in the product, Nanyang Siang Pau and China Press reported. Chinese ambassador to Malaysia Chai Xi was quoted as saying that the import of bird's nest to China was expected to resume following efforts by both Malaysian and Chinese governments to resolve the matter. He said a quality inspection management team from China arrived on Dec 28 to establish a permissible nitrate level for the product. Chai said both governments were committed to resolve the matter after Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak met China Premier Wen Jiabao in Nanning in October. He stressed that China had not banned the product from Malaysia but only imposed stringent measures to ensure the quality of bird's nests is met. > Sin Chew Daily reported that Singapore's Orchard Road tops the list on the world's 30 most renowned commercial streets in a survey conducted by French customer survey agency Presence. Orchard Road stood out for its excellent customer service and clean streets. Paris' Champ-Elysees, which ranked 16th, provided a refreshing shopping experience but lacked hospitality while the shop assistants were not friendly enough. http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...9923&sec=nation So we can expect the ebn price will increase after that huh? This post has been edited by mois: Jan 6 2012, 02:40 PM |
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Jan 7 2012, 12:51 AM
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just harvest 1.5kg birdnest. anyone interest please pm me. tq
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Jan 9 2012, 10:30 AM
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"Should destiny decide for you
Or You decide your destiny" |
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Jan 9 2012, 01:09 PM
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Price of house nest from some prominent TCM shop in town. Cave nests from Indo, so many caves meh, or man-made caves or what we call BHs not BuulsHits?
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Jan 10 2012, 11:11 AM
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Fact is that at present, Chinese do not have faith in Malaysian Nests due to the scandal and at present, the Indo nests seem to be more in demand. Malaysia do not have the Red Nests but "Lembu punya susu, Sapi dapat nama nya" as this case is the BAD image......maybe, due to some BAD Malaysians cooperating with our neighbouring country to pass the contaiminated nests as Malaysian nests and so we all need to suffer for many more months to come.
Hopefully, we shall regain our former glory in a few years time and hope that in 2012, people will forget the bad past that happened like the milk scandal and start taking our nests like before. We all shall learn thru this lesson and learn well so that in future, we shall not allow our greed to take the better of us.... |
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Jan 10 2012, 07:34 PM
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Can anyone care to show how u guys store the raw bird nest and to prevent it from turning into yellowish? My method is to dry them up using fan after harvest. Building a chiller room seem to be costly though.
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Jan 10 2012, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(West Wing @ Jan 10 2012, 11:11 AM) Fact is that at present, Chinese do not have faith in Malaysian Nests due to the scandal and at present, the Indo nests seem to be more in demand. Malaysia do not have the Red Nests but "Lembu punya susu, Sapi dapat nama nya" as this case is the BAD image......maybe, due to some BAD Malaysians cooperating with our neighbouring country to pass the contaiminated nests as Malaysian nests and so we all need to suffer for many more months to come. Is it true that for the past few years that: Hopefully, we shall regain our former glory in a few years time and hope that in 2012, people will forget the bad past that happened like the milk scandal and start taking our nests like before. We all shall learn thru this lesson and learn well so that in future, we shall not allow our greed to take the better of us.... Indonesian and Thai nest were not allowed into China without hefty tax whereas Malaysian nest were imported into China with much lower taxation ? Most exported "Malaysian" EBN were actually from Indonesia? Most Malaysian EBN were sent to Indonesia for cleaning and a much larger amount returned to Malaysia as Malaysian nests? |
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Jan 10 2012, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(West Wing @ Jan 10 2012, 11:11 AM) Fact is that at present, Chinese do not have faith in Malaysian Nests due to the scandal and at present, the Indo nests seem to be more in demand. Malaysia do not have the Red Nests but "Lembu punya susu, Sapi dapat nama nya" as this case is the BAD image......maybe, due to some BAD Malaysians cooperating with our neighbouring country to pass the contaiminated nests as Malaysian nests and so we all need to suffer for many more months to come. haha we play long term of course wont do dirty tricks for quick buck. But there are those who are willing to do that. On the up side, at least now we know the end of the ban of export of EBN to China is ending soon ... Hopefully soon there is a proper governing body (locally) to check and ensure some form of quality for EBN to be exported. I think it will be good for the industry. At least buyers more confident of the standard, market also may increase.Hopefully, we shall regain our former glory in a few years time and hope that in 2012, people will forget the bad past that happened like the milk scandal and start taking our nests like before. We all shall learn thru this lesson and learn well so that in future, we shall not allow our greed to take the better of us.... One thing I find very funny, china so strick about their import. But they themselves so many scandal with their food export. |
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Jan 11 2012, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(tuckfook @ Jan 10 2012, 07:46 PM) Is it true that for the past few years that: For the past many years, only Malaysia and SIngapore can export fowl products to China due to the Chicken viruses in this region and Malaysia being Free from the viruses. Also that our country has long friendship with China, thus we do not have to pay duty/taxes on the EBN but not our neighbouring EBN countries like Indonesia, Vietnam and Thailand.Indonesian and Thai nest were not allowed into China without hefty tax whereas Malaysian nest were imported into China with much lower taxation ? Most exported "Malaysian" EBN were actually from Indonesia? Most Malaysian EBN were sent to Indonesia for cleaning and a much larger amount returned to Malaysia as Malaysian nests? Although Free of Taxes, all we need to pay is Sales Tax in advance which the end users will have to pay when buying EBN @ shops but then, most of the nests in China are smuggled into China thru HongKong for years and all were mostly Indonesian nests which did not even have to pay the Sales Tax. Indonesian bought our nests to sell as their better nests as the Indo nests were mostly inferior type due to contamination and pollution. For that reason, Indo were coming here to buy our nests at a better price than they offered in their own country. All the while, they did not required to export thru Malaysia but only recently due to the harassment from the Chinese Authorities that they need our fellow Malaysian to do the export as Products of Malaysia and by doing so, cost do go up as the exporters need to pay service charges to local guys and also Sales Tax. One thing funny was that they do not need to declare the type of EBN like white or Red as Malaysia peninsular in particular do not have any real Red nests, if they did, the Authorities in China should have knew then that the nest were not of Malaysia originally. Also, we don't know if Chinese in China know how to make RED nests and if they do, thy may have done so in China itself so maybe also bleaching in China so why put all blame to Us.....Malaysian maybe the Victim in the whole Affair....created to cause our downfall as we Malaysia did offended big TKs in exporting EBN directly to China which for centuries done by HK supported by Indo. Even in the earlier postings at the forum, someone did let us know on how to do Red Nests if anyone care to check it out but then nobody even bother cos it's never was our business on what they do with the nests as the demand of Red Nests were really popular in China and Rich Chinese only took Red Nests and Corporate Gifts to Government Officials are all in Red and should be the Big Red Ones which were mostly from the most dirtiest super sized nests which is really very cheap but when processed in to RED Nests which could be sold up to RMB60K per Kg in China Outlets. The producers of such nests make tons of money while the rich, powerful and famous in China are suffering from poison for years without knowing because they buy the advertisement that RED is the Best and nothing can persuade them from not taking RED ones and that I did tried years ago in China but failed. When you hurt the powerful in China and this is what happened..... Above are what I know and share but maybe wrong and if someone wish to comment on it, welcome and share but pls. no bad mouth as all I want is to share. This post has been edited by West Wing: Jan 11 2012, 05:09 PM |
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Jan 12 2012, 09:41 AM
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Indonesia buying and selling our nests? This is the 1st time I heard of it, interesting. But they produce so much more than ours. Well I think your right, someone offended someone thats why made a big deal of this current issue. But like I said, it bring out more awareness to the consumer and producer. Producer have to ensure the products not use harmful contaminants to clean or process. Consumer knowing the process & understanding will have more confidence.
WW, u seem to be in the business quite a while now. Glad u are here in the forum sharing your views. Thanks. Saw this on utube, maybe its been shared before? |
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Jan 12 2012, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Jan 10 2012, 11:58 PM) haha we play long term of course wont do dirty tricks for quick buck. But there are those who are willing to do that. On the up side, at least now we know the end of the ban of export of EBN to China is ending soon ... Hopefully soon there is a proper governing body (locally) to check and ensure some form of quality for EBN to be exported. I think it will be good for the industry. At least buyers more confident of the standard, market also may increase. WITHOUT PREJUDICE One thing I find very funny, china so strick about their import. But they themselves so many scandal with their food export. Proper governing is good but I am scared that worst will come but I hope that I am wrong for all sake!!! Like all products, once controlled tnen permit will be issued to only a few people with connection with the authorities and that will very bad. With the right to export, they will control the market price of the EBN and they will buy low and sell high and those wanting to sell may have to pay high service charges to them for the right to export. Like presently MChip required to export nests, once they enforce it but only issuing to a few selected ones, then other exporters will need to export thru these guys using their MChip cos no one will know the differences as where the nests are from? Just look around you and you shall see what happen to everything begining with the AP which each fetch RM30K and who getting all the APs!!! Even Halal certification isn't spare, ask around you will notice for non Muslim to export or sell Halal food, you really need to fork up alot of money for the Halal Certification. Why non Muslim owned food buz managed by Muslim need to pay huge UT money to do Halal buz while Muslim owned Buzs managed by non Muslim have no restriction. Can't blame all on the Authorities as they aren't so smart to think of these dirty tactics and only Chinese/Indian buz minds can think of it cos many of these problems are specially engineered by Malaysian Chinese/Indian esp. those converted to Muslim for the purposes only to make fortune. > above, No Prejudice or else, you will see me in jail. |
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Jan 12 2012, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(West Wing @ Jan 12 2012, 11:51 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Like presently MChip required to export nests» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Can you please elaborate a little on this 'Mchip'? My current knowledge from news on this forum is that the relevant Chinese authorities have come to our shore to be shown samples of raw EBN and was to subsequently to work with our MOH towards an agreeable standard. No news after their visit and now you are saying our MOH has started issuing this Mchippy thing and export has resumed? (Yes I am aware that it is our MOH that is not issuing their certs that is holding up export and the local Chinese embassy has clarified that the Chinese govt has NEVER banned EBN imports) p.s. MOH = Ministry of Health. |
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