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 V4. Swiftlet Keeping Discussions, All About Swiftlet Keeping Industry

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northface
post Dec 21 2011, 12:20 AM

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Nice pics aeiou, the price is high because it is a retail technique. You don't just drop your price 20-30% even if sales are low.

All these old Chinese medicine shop are still selling high because they have to maintain the illusion that all these nests are really worth that much. They probably pay very low price to source these nests anyways, so even though sales is low these past few months their margin is still outrageously high, easily 3-5x of profit on these nests.

But given that one of the pics show that there are lower price over the old price, it probably means that the market is really really slow that some of these chinaman shops are finally giving in.

Swift4ever look closely on the left side of the pic on the wall, they have the weights listed. 1 Tahil = 37.79931 grams.
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(swift4ever @ Dec 21 2011, 12:11 AM)
TF, make correction on the price for White nest please.
If 1 tahil = 37.8g is true, then the price is still strong, isn't it? I am interested to know how many genuine shoppers there are at these two separate instances.

P/S It's not easy to take picture like that. Thanks for sharing.
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Sorry, I don't read Chinese so I could be wrong with the weight defined but those were the prices as displayed. I could not take pictures at Mongkok, too crowded and the shop keepers were too vigilant. I assumed it was per tahil. I doubt it was per catty though.

1 catty = 12 tahils or 16 tahils? 1 catty = 600gms.

Displayed prices may differ very much from the actual selling price as ample discounts are often given.

I'll look again at other locations today.


Added on December 21, 2011, 11:25 amhttp://www.onlineunitconversion.com/gram_to_tahil.China.html

http://www.convertunits.com/from/1+tahil+[China]/to/gram

http://www.sourcesingapore.com.sg/Conversi...ersion.htm#mass

so which is correct?


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aeiou228
post Dec 21 2011, 11:35 AM

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TF, All medicine shops in HK and Macau quoted in (両) Liang or Niu in hokkien. so tahil is correct.
As you can see from the middle picture, the shop pasted a conversion table on the wall and even translated in Bahasa, 1 tahil = 37.79931gram.
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Dec 21 2011, 11:35 AM)
TF, All medicine shops in HK and Macau quoted in (両) Liang or Niu in hokkien. so tahil is correct.
As you can see from the middle picture, the shop pasted a conversion table on the wall and even translated in Bahasa, 1 tahil = 37.79931gram.
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Actually all these old Chinese measurement units are pretty confusing at times. Nowadays in China 1 tahil = 50 grams and 1 斤/catty is 500 grams, in other places like HK and Macau you have 1 tahil = 38 grams and 1 /catty斤= 600 grams.

And there's this song if you guys remember called 半斤八兩, 8 tahils is always equal to half a catty, therefore 16 tahils in a catty. The bottom line is just go to a place/country and understand how much 1 tahil is for them and you should have no problem figuring out the rest.

In summary China changed all their old Chinese weighting measurements while non-communist influenced Chinese countries stayed with the old Tahil/Catty measurement, but since most ppl do business with China you just have to remember the differences between their systems.


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post Dec 21 2011, 12:03 PM

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In Malaysia, we also used Kati & Tahils before the metric system was adopted.

1 Kati = 16 Tahils. That I remember very well because I used the dacing very often. Wish I had kept 1 old dacing plus 1 set of Gantang, Cupak, Celeng....

Anyway, good job aeiou. 21X no play-play.
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post Dec 21 2011, 05:24 PM

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Right now I m getting quotes for RM2800 per kilo. I hope the price will go up as we are nearing chinese new year. A lot of BH owners are holding stocks rather sell them
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post Dec 21 2011, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(computerrentals @ Dec 21 2011, 05:24 PM)
Right now I m getting quotes for RM2800 per kilo. I hope the price will go up as we are nearing chinese new year. A lot of BH owners are holding stocks rather sell them
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Can you please share your buyer information... Thanks in advance

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post Dec 23 2011, 04:44 PM

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Hmm...I wonder forum is taking a cue from the poor retail sale?

Shoppers' confidence in authenticity is the most crucial factor for the price of nest to maintain. If a frightened shopper knows that red is a no-no, sale of other nests will also be affected. Since the consumer confidence is not restored to pre-crisis level, more discounts on nest price from retailers could be expected, from now and into the festive season. What does it entail after the festive season? Retail sale to decline further and no sign of raw nest price to bottom out, unless all farmers band together just hold their raw nest until demand forces pricing to correct upward. Afterall, farmers are always getting the short end of the stick.

So for now, only if China authority starting to look into authenticity issue, giving a clear picture on what is allowed, lifting the ban from import of true nests and applying a "no double standard policy" in the existing "One Country, Two Systems" framework. or the problem is not over yet...Just my own view.


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post Dec 23 2011, 09:28 PM

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HAPPY HOLDING................

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post Dec 24 2011, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(kohloh @ Dec 23 2011, 09:28 PM)
My neighbor just sold off 6kilo to friends and Chinese men working @ offshore for Rm2500/kg to take back to China. With he recent wave after wave of negative reports on EBN, I just don't know how long this storm will last.

Rumors has it that many are selling very low and no one can blame them cos they are scared and maybe they need the money.


All I can say is


"HAPPY Christmas and A Very Happy New Year to All"........may all your wishes come true.
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post Dec 25 2011, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Dec 24 2011, 08:57 PM)
My neighbor just sold off 6kilo to friends and Chinese men working @ offshore for Rm2500/kg to take back to China. With he recent wave after wave of negative reports on EBN, I just don't know how long this storm will last.

Rumors has it that many are selling very low and no one can blame them cos they are scared and maybe they need the money.
All I can say is
"HAPPY Christmas and A Very Happy New Year to All"........may all your wishes come true.
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post Dec 26 2011, 08:30 PM

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My BH temp and humidity readings from 1st November 2011 to 26th December 2011.
Please comment.
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swift4ever
post Dec 26 2011, 10:28 PM

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11/24/2011 9:14 24.00 96 120 12/26/2011 20:06 Min Temp
11/24/2011 11:14 24.40 98 120 12/26/2011 20:06
11/24/2011 13:14 25.30 97 120 12/26/2011 20:06
11/24/2011 15:14 25.90 98 120 12/26/2011 20:06 Max Humi


Reading like this is from standalone BH, during a rainy season? Maybe you need to insulate your walls or keep your ventilations holes closed at this time of the year.


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Rumors has it that many are selling very low and no one can blame them cos they are scared and maybe they need the money.
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Do you have the data how many are selling very low? 20 out of 100 or 50 out of 100? I'm interested to find out. icon_question.gif

Agreed that some need the money by selling low....Hope it's not more than 50% so that we are still holding happy slightly. biggrin.gif

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post Dec 26 2011, 11:06 PM

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Added on December 26, 2011, 10:39 pm[/spoiler]
Do you have the data how many are selling very low? 20 out of 100 or 50 out of 100? I'm interested to find out. icon_question.gif
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dedicate this song fr u guys to keep on holding,,,,,,,,,,,, rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yPtFDbSwIE

u got to hold on to wat u got,,,,,,,,,,,,

SO WAT??,,,,,we have over thousand Tons over head now,,,,,,


Cooking very nicely this time,,,,,,,,nicely cooking fr those big mouth,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

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lai11
post Dec 27 2011, 08:53 AM

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Hi guys,

There is some news about BH turned into casino on astro last night. Anybody knows where that bh is located?
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post Dec 27 2011, 10:09 AM

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Soon they will have China girls serving fresh bird nest soup with fresh la la
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QUOTE(coolandy @ Dec 27 2011, 10:09 AM)
Soon they will have China girls serving fresh bird nest soup with fresh la la
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Hey brother! I got similar idea but slightly different. Turning my incoming BH into a chicken paradise (den) as I got a 5 feets deep pool right in the middle of the BH and I may rent it out to chicken head to rear chicken; the featherless ones. A chicken farm, I would say.

Imagine, having 10 beautiful multinational chicks in bikinis in the pool and clients just pick anyone from the pool.......just let your imagination go wild for a moment to share this scenario cos it's holiday time.

snap it out, my friends and sorry for pulling you all in to my dream...hahahahha ....excuse me for the jokes.

I think it's good to share some jokes during bad time to keep everyone spirit high and happy. God bless you all.
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post Dec 27 2011, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(lai11 @ Dec 27 2011, 08:53 AM)
Hi guys,

There is some news about  BH turned into casino on astro last night.  Anybody knows where that bh is located?
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I thought you were joking until I read the papers today, found a link to the news article. I guess it just shows you how bad it is that ppl are turning their BH into cyber casinos! cry.gif

http://www.chinapress.com.my/node/280215
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post Dec 28 2011, 11:15 AM

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[quote=northface,Dec 27 2011, 02:59 PM]
I thought you were joking until I read the papers today, found a link to the news article. I guess it just shows you how bad it is that ppl are turning their BH into cyber casinos! cry.gif

The owner must have been v desperate.
Very sad, and also a bad sign.
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post Dec 29 2011, 12:41 AM

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Sorry to tumpang thread..I have one bird house with complete bird nest renovation in Bukit Seroja, Bukit Beruntung. Started in July this year complete with sound system. 60 feet by 20 feet by 2 floors fully extended (original was only 1.5 floors). Freehold. Many birds around that area especially evening. Freehold. I m the owner. NO Agent. If anyone wants to invest in bird nest business, this is your best bet. Reason for sale: I have other business which I need to focus on & keep traveling overseas. Really no time for up keeping the premise and harvest. Please submit your offer by PM. Thanks for reading!

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