I see alot of ppl asking questions abt how do we determine how success is your bird house. To be honest, so far there isn't really a correct answer as most would simply tell you that there is no exact answer due to the vast variables. So rather than asking what is "success", y don't we all chip in our own results as a method of comparison. I assume we are all enthusiast and we keep regular records of our BH. Below are my results. With the results, atleast we can see what ppl around us are performing and then maybe compare the differences in more details....

Year Started: Dec 2010
Location: Sabah
Size: 70 x 30 x 3 storey
Type: Open roof
Results:
Month 3: 1 Nest
Month 6: 1 Nest
Month 9: 10 Nests
Year 1: 21 Nests + 4 Incomplete Nests

Initial cost was about RM400k inclusive of everything. Land was inherited.

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Added on December 6, 2011, 10:23 pmFrom the things I heard and learnt, heard that it is best to open 1/2 holes connecting the birdhouses depending on the size, you mention 60ft or 80ft, I think 2 holes would b good enough.
Don't open the holes first, do the renovation and necessary fitting works, then lastly, open the holes. That way you do not need to start fresh.

Btw, 1.5year n 1.5k nests... WHOA! The nest results around my area is 300nests on the 1st year and it is considered very very successful!! Big goodjob!

Abt the harvest, one of my friend who current run a BH with over 10k nests within, he harvest 10% of the nests everytime. His average harvest is 8-10kg depending.

So 3k would b around 200-300nests? 4k = 300-400nests? Not very sure since I am not there yet haha

This post has been edited by oneup: Dec 6 2011, 10:28 PM

I am not sure, but he told me 10% so I take his words heh...
He was one of the pioneer within the district, his BH is abt 10 yrs and i am not sure how long did it took for him to reach 10k nests because when i got to know him, it was already at the 8k nests mark...

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Added on December 7, 2011, 2:02 pmVery true. 6 mths ago i still heard ppl talk abt it at kopitiam... Now no one is talking abt it anymore haha... But I do agree the fact that "with every bad time, comes good opportunities"


This post has been edited by oneup: Dec 7 2011, 02:02 PM

No consultant. And I don't really like the idea of naming names.

Dear WW and other experts,

I inspected my BH today and notice there was a baby bird on the floor. My teacher tell me to pick it up and try to let it fly by itself again, I did and it didn't fly... sad...

I really didn't know what to do abt it, so i decided to place it in one of the empty nests hoping that some other birds will take care of it....

I would like to know what should really been done?

If I leave it on the floor, it will surely die... If I keep try to make it fly... It will die too since it will drop on the floor...

Baby birds need frequent feeding I assume... It is very likely that it won't survive... =(

Regards,
Oneup

This post has been edited by oneup: Dec 29 2011, 10:17 AM

Don't think I placed it on the right nest...
I found it on the floor near the bird house entrance. And there was no nest in that area. So it was impossible for me to know which is its nest.
I have no idea how it got there. Perhaps it got scared while we turn on the light and flew towards the exit and fell.

Thanks anyways =)

Lets hope the parents can hear its crying.
I will enter the BH again tomorrow to check if its doing ok.
Thank you!

Just notice myself recently that there are few types of wire for the speakers.
I myself has used the following:
1- aluminum copper wire
2- pure copper
3- pure tinned copper

I highly recommend all to avoid aluminum copper as I have paid the price for using such wires. The external sound wires lasted 3 months and corrosion are already very serious until the extend that some speakers stop working.
Pure copper or pure tinned copper are the way to go. Both are good against corrosion. But tinned copper is higher priced and last even longer...

Happy new year all!

Also, I notice everytime during Xmas till after CNY, the number of birds flying in the sky are significantly reduced... Fireworks scaring off the birds? Co-incident?

This post has been edited by oneup: Jan 3 2012, 02:43 PM

Dear all sifus and hobbyist,

Suddenly thought about the sounds collection that I had and used.
There were 1 sound that got me curious.
I have been operating Tongkat Ali for 3 months last year.
I notice when I first use the sound, it happens to draw alot of birds and most importantly, unlike other external sound, Tongkat Ali actually make the birds enter the birdhouse. Problem is, altho I seen many birds going in and out the BH, it only lasted for abt a week. And the sound wears off. And After 3 month, the BH only has 1 nest.

Any comments?

This post has been edited by oneup: Jan 3 2012, 09:00 PM

As much as i want to believe.
I hope the government is serious and on the matter.
Rumor has that the election will be as soon as February/March/April.
From our government's track record, let say BN win.
I think everything will go back to square 1.
All they care is themselves, license here n there.
Yes they can't seem to solve some simple problems.

For every1 who is in the industry, we basically understand whats going on and how simple the solution is.
Sifu WW posts basically sums up all the important points.
If the government wants to help sincerely, the issue would have been solved by now.

Comparing the two.
I have to agree with WW abt the sound part.
If you want to have a BH in town area, you have to run with no sound. And the again, if they allow it in Town with such rules, it is just a matter of time ppl start blasting the sounds 24/7.

Abt voting. What has BN given us till now? Look at the issue, not what affect yourself n yourself only.

DAP decision to demolish BH in city area is not a wrong one. They have their reasons and those are indeed valid reasons. It is because the decision affect us, thats y we are against it. Millions are happy with the rules.

What different are we from those who get RM500 and vote BN for ourselves if we decide to vote BN because they would let us keep our BH in city area? Look at whats best in the long term, for our nxt generations.

I agree with Chank

This post has been edited by oneup: Jan 31 2012, 11:19 AM

Sad to hear that BH owners now has to sell to the 8 companies with license at ridiculous prices and then the 8 companies sell to the one and only company with export license.
Who is the boss of that one and only company? MCA President Son, atleast thats what I heard...
Not sure how true is it.

Can any1 advise on method of changing external sound?
I have decided to change my external sound, should I change it at night and start the sound at 3am?
Reason being that some has told me if you change the sound during the day, some birds currently staying might be driven away by the new sound.

Thanks for the reply, but my farm is in the estate, so its ok.
They say some birds recognize the sound and by changing the external sound, it will drive returning birds away.

Dear WW, philoswiflet,

I was told to start early for that day and then turn it back to 5am after. Guess it's not a good idea.
That night after i changed it, i was worried for a night because after giving it some thought, i think it might lure owls to my BH, and i check it via the cctv the nxt day and all was good.

The BH is not v far away, its 20mins drive, I went to change the external sound at 8PM, since the sound stop at 7:30pm. And adjust the timer to 3am~7:30pm...

I've adjusted it back to 5am~7:30pm...