Dear WW and other experts,

I inspected my BH today and notice there was a baby bird on the floor. My teacher tell me to pick it up and try to let it fly by itself again, I did and it didn't fly... sad...

I really didn't know what to do abt it, so i decided to place it in one of the empty nests hoping that some other birds will take care of it....

I would like to know what should really been done?

If I leave it on the floor, it will surely die... If I keep try to make it fly... It will die too since it will drop on the floor...

Baby birds need frequent feeding I assume... It is very likely that it won't survive... =(

Regards,
Oneup

This post has been edited by oneup: Dec 29 2011, 10:17 AM

If u put on wrong nest, they will kick the baby out. There is nothing you can do except to return back the baby bird into its nest. I always do this and 80% of them survived. I love baby swiflets alot since they like to stick on my finger!

Don't think I placed it on the right nest...
I found it on the floor near the bird house entrance. And there was no nest in that area. So it was impossible for me to know which is its nest.
I have no idea how it got there. Perhaps it got scared while we turn on the light and flew towards the exit and fell.

Thanks anyways =)

Well, taking about chicks that cannot fly, most of our type of swiftlets have 2 chicks and all you need to do is to see which nest has one chick of similar size.

Failing so, just put the bird into any one and pray that it will survive and some do so at least it got a chance; thanks to you and your kind heart.

From what you written, it's a swiftlet about to fledge and so, any place is OK as the parent birds will hear it's call when they return....and the parent should be able to feed it there and then and in no time, the bird will be able to fly out of the BH.

Just like bats, the parents can distinguish their babies from thousand of others by their cries.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Dec 29 2011, 05:25 PM

Lets hope the parents can hear its crying.
I will enter the BH again tomorrow to check if its doing ok.
Thank you!

LED light, I believe shall be the light of the future as they provide cheap lighting (saving of 80% cost in electric bill) and not hot and lastly, they last over 10 years on normal daily usage. The disadvantage is that these lights are expensive in Malaysia but it's very cheap in China and if cheaply available, I will convert all lighting in the BH with these LEDs to be maintenance free.

I foresee, in future all lighting will use LED and they get brighter and brighter and the price will drop as it very cheap to produce, only set up is expensive.

But we don't need long hours light source in the BH therefore energy saving is highly unlikely to offset the initial investment, do we ? Perhaps you have some secret light guiding techniques in the BH to share with us

I was really thinking of the BH @ agriland and since I am doing one and planing to use LEDs aroung the entrance holes and also surrounding the BH so that anyone near the BH will be notice from far away and only the high initial cost and with so low electricity and no maintenance; just a thought to consider.

I bought some of the LED downlight and remove the diffuser plastic and without the diffuser, the super bright light shall scare off any predator wanting to enter the holes. You may on it every night and they still work years after years and cost so little to you. Since the LED is sealed off with epoxy therefore it is water proof and nothing to break.

Just thinking of it for myself and really haven't got any secret weapon hiding or else, I surely share as always.... any comment

LEDs are certainly lights for the future. I use LED torch light for hunting and they are as bright but usually whiter than Halogen lights. LED runs much cooler. They are very energy efficient. Most of all, weigh much less.

LEDs operating from the rechargeable Lithium ion batteries batteries makes a very compact and powerful light.

There is a major problem with LEDs, they run on relatively low current, typically less than 1 (some up to 3)amps and do not tolerate being driven beyond their designed capabilities. Hence they require sophisticated circuitry to control the amount of current that goes into it. Their internal resistance is very low so the voltage supplied is again has to be very low, about 3 volts DC.

Running the LED lights from mains AC @ 230volts require special driver circuitry and it is these that fail quite often. When the drivers fail, it usually also blows the LED otherwise LEDs have a life of at least 50,000 hours. LEDs also require heat sinking(kept cool) otherwise they suffer thermal runaway and self destruct.

I have found that Made in China LED lights are good but they fail because of the drivers. Otherwise they will be very cost effective.

BTW most LED lights are made in China, even the famous brands, but to get famous brand reliability, you have to pay much much more.

The cheaper alternative nowadays will be the compact flourescent bulb. Use these until the LED lights become cheaper and more reliable. That may perhaps be very soon.

Dear TF,

You mentioned heat-sink in the above post and this has been a big question to me for a long time. Hope you can share your opinion.
Since LED itself emit very minimum heat, what is the use for the heat sink as in below picture ?
I guess the heat sink is to disperse heat generated by the DRIVER ?
The heat energy generated by the LED bulb which requires such elaborated heat-sink to disperse, do you reckon the below LED bulb really energy effective. ?



This post has been edited by aeiou228: Jan 2 2012, 11:32 AM

Q: If LED’s need a heat sink,
why do people say they give off no heat?

A: LED's do give off heat. But significantly less compared to traditional (incandescent and flourescent) bulbs. Let’s look at the incandescent lamp one more time. They operate by making the filament so hot that it glows, or incandesces. Basically its 92% heat, and 8% light. Not a real good return for your energy. Fluorescents are much better. Both the linear and twister lamps are about 30% heat, and 70% light. Pretty darned good improvement over incandescent, wouldn’t you say? Sure enough, moving over to the LED, we have roughly 92% light, and 8% heat. That isn’t much heat at all, and unfortunately, there’s some folks out there making claims of “no heat” but this is really not the truth. This small percentage of heat is clearly a vast improvement, but because this small amount of heat is in such a tiny volume it has to be addressed. By that I mean it must be removed from the LED or the LED die, and that’s why there’s a heat sink. Most of the manufacturers will tell you a lot about how to best manage the heat, given some technical parameters. If you’re buying a complete LED lighting system, all this is already done for you. Many manufacturers include a overheat circuit breaker in the light. The big thing to watch out for is that the manufacturer has to do it right. Otherwise, you’re going to be sorely disappointed!

From the net

That's good research.

LEDs will always need a heatsink as they suffer from Thermal runaway, ie as it gets hot, it takes more current and as it takes more current, it'll get hotter. Basically, the LED is such a tiny point producing heat that if the heat is not taken away quickly, that point on the surface of the LED will get hotter and hotter until it blows up. Just as a 1watt laser will pop a balloon but a 1watt light will never do the same. All the energy focused on a tiny point.

Good heat sinking will prolong the life of the LED.

Happy 2012 to all the sifus and masters, a new year has come, any improvement on BN price?

Just notice myself recently that there are few types of wire for the speakers.
I myself has used the following:
1- aluminum copper wire
2- pure copper
3- pure tinned copper

I highly recommend all to avoid aluminum copper as I have paid the price for using such wires. The external sound wires lasted 3 months and corrosion are already very serious until the extend that some speakers stop working.
Pure copper or pure tinned copper are the way to go. Both are good against corrosion. But tinned copper is higher priced and last even longer...

Happy new year all!

Also, I notice everytime during Xmas till after CNY, the number of birds flying in the sky are significantly reduced... Fireworks scaring off the birds? Co-incident?

This post has been edited by oneup: Jan 3 2012, 02:43 PM

good information. thanks for sharing again.

anyways after xmas many bh in my area flooded jor. haha. if anyone doing BH @ asa jaya should knw. Im glad mine no major issue. Even my solar system still function w/o sun for so many days. thank goodness. no cut in music...

This post has been edited by gerald7: Jan 3 2012, 03:24 PM

Well, all I can say that this is certainly the only "1Manusia" site where we all give our true honest views to share with all races, religions or creeks without hesitation nor greed........Whereas "1Malaysia" is only in words only till now.

Just a few weeks ago, many shop owners here got notice from MPK to put 1Malaysia Logo on their sigh board or face a fine. What's a shame! I went to the MPK and told the guys selling the stickers off by telling him that 1Malaysia should be from the heart and not force to and how shameful to force the raayat to pay for the stickers to show that they are for "1Malaysia".

1M should be from the heart but never dream to be forced into buying and placing tiny 1M stickers(Rm4) on the sign board or else face a fine. I gladly will place a sq meter "1Malaysia" display if allowed to but will not if being threaten a fine. Being a Pro BM all my life, I am thinking of voting for opposition this coming election....sorry for alittle of politic out of anger here to lower my blood pressure...

By the way, what has happened to all those talkings on clearing the air for the export of EBN to China and hopefully, the VDept does not just allow a few guys the rights to export EBN. Then, we will soon see that same like "100% BIRDNESTS, PRODUCT OF SINGAPORE" like our rambutan and other fruits.

Dear all sifus and hobbyist,

Suddenly thought about the sounds collection that I had and used.
There were 1 sound that got me curious.
I have been operating Tongkat Ali for 3 months last year.
I notice when I first use the sound, it happens to draw alot of birds and most importantly, unlike other external sound, Tongkat Ali actually make the birds enter the birdhouse. Problem is, altho I seen many birds going in and out the BH, it only lasted for abt a week. And the sound wears off. And After 3 month, the BH only has 1 nest.

Any comments?

This post has been edited by oneup: Jan 3 2012, 09:00 PM

my goodness forcing the 1M concept down our throats ? our current gomen needs a full format. antivirus also canot save dy.

if only a few guys can export EBN then smaller guys (new guys like me) no chance already. No money, no play. In the mean time, process n selling to local market lo. at least earn some red packet $

Any update on latest pricing? Heard around rm2k per kilo which is low

柴璽：大馬成功消除恐懼 燕窩4月可進中國
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　（吉隆坡4日訊）隨著大馬成功消除中國對燕窩亞銷酸鹽含量的恐懼之后，預計本地燕窩將可以在4月恢復入口中國。

　中國駐馬大使柴璽說，隨著馬中政府努力讓多項行業重回軌道，兩國貿易放緩的情況，預計在今年首季好轉。

　他指出，一支來自中國國家質量監督檢驗單位的專家團隊，已于12月28日抵達大馬，並花了5天，與大馬衛生部共同鑒定燕窩的亞硝酸鹽含量的標準。

　“他們鑒定了中國可以接受的燕窩亞硝酸鹽含量標準。”

　柴璽接受《新海峽時報》訪問時說，大馬農業及農基工業部也會盡快派出一支隊伍到中國，處理釐清亞銷酸鹽含量的課題。

　他說，隨著首相拿督斯里納吉于去年10月與中國總理溫家寶，在南寧會面時同意解決有關問題后，兩國政府已朝這方向努力。

　“我們了解到只有解決亞硝酸鹽含量超標問題后，馬來西亞燕窩業才能蓬勃發展，我們也知道涉及這個行業的大多數都是華裔。”

中國沒禁大馬燕窩

　去年7月，中國媒體揭發假血燕課題，這些燕窩還含有超量亞硝酸鹽。一些不法商人用燕子糞便將廉價燕窩熏至血紅色，當作血燕出售，但這種血燕含有超量的亞硝酸鹽，食用后對健康危害極大。

　較后，中國當局也加強對馬來西亞燕窩入口管制，針對此事，柴璽說，中國政府並沒有禁止大馬燕窩入口到中國，自去年7月后，仍有燕窩能繼續入口到當地。

　“我們只是更加注意從馬來西亞入口的燕窩，防止一些質量低劣的產業進入中國市場。”

　他說，馬來西亞燕窩的售價可以高達每盒1萬令吉，甚至比黃金更昂貴。

燕窩商聯會未接通知

報導：薛淑敏

　馬來西亞燕窩商聯合會會長拿督馬興松說，公會尚未接獲燕窩恢復入口中國消息；若消息屬實，對同業而言，將是一件大喜訊。

　“目前我們僅從報章上得知此消息，還沒有收到正式通知，雖然（燕窩）來不及在農曆新年前出口至中國，但對于業者而言，仍是一項好消息。”

　他今日接受《中國報》電訪時說，燕窩是新年送禮佳品，可是卻因為燕窩風波，令燕窩嚴重滯銷。

　馬興松指出，大馬的燕窩，有90%是出口至中國，中國政府禁止燕窩進口的措施，對業者的影響巨大。

　“此負面消息也令本地消費者對燕窩失去信心，我們需要有中國對燕窩指標來挽回本地及外國消費者信心。”

　另外，馬興松也感謝中國駐馬大使柴璽，對于燕窩課題關注及幫助。

　“衛生部說過，中國要低調處理燕窩課題，所以我們雖然重視此課題，卻不能一直去打擾他們。”

　針對中國政府曾派遣專家團隊來馬，與衛生部共同鑒定燕窩的亞硝酸鹽含量標準時，馬興松指出，公會知道此事，但中國政府要求低調處理，不可渲染此事。

何其琛：趕不及春節上架
未知亞硝酸鹽標準

報導：謝玉珊

馬來西亞燕窩出口商公會歡迎中國同意讓大馬燕窩在今年4月重新入口，讓燕窩業重見曙光。

　該公會會長何其琛向《中國報》說，雖然這意味著大馬燕窩無法趕在春節前重新在中國市場上架，但商家也希望能夠趕上其他送禮佳節，例如中秋節。

　他說，衛生部長拿督斯里廖中萊去年11月訪問中國時，曾表明希望讓本地燕窩趕在春節前恢復出口到中國，但卻一直沒有下文。

　“燕窩恢復出口到中國對我們來說是好消息，無論如何，既然錯過了春節的市場，那么我們就期盼接下來的佳節。”

　同時，他也希望衛生部盡快公佈馬中兩國都同意的燕窩亞硝酸鹽標準。

　“我們到現在都還不知道中國可以接受的亞硝酸鹽含量究竟是多少。”

　他也說，目前中國方面已有馬來西亞燕窩的訂單，只要中國當局一亮綠燈，就能把貨品運到中國。