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 Astro B.yond Episode IV (Version 9.0), The New World of Entertainment

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post May 3 2012, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ May 3 2012, 09:44 AM)
biggrin.gif Thanks for answering. Here is a thread from RWI for Astro monopoly.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2270465
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Actually a lot if the talk in this thread belongs in the thread u linked.
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QUOTE(ronn77 @ May 3 2012, 09:31 AM)
Hi James,

Wow, thanks for your detailed explanations.
If you are someone that knows a little then I'm someone that knows almost nothing  laugh.gif

Anyway yes, I bought Sarowin HD10 but however I did not purchase the switcher as he ask me to try if the signal is good enough between living and masterbedroom as claimed by him the best distance shoulds not exceed 7 metres. So I fix the thing and after trying various positions for both the items by running up n down in my double story house and finally I found the spot which could provide at least watchable quality and minimal distortion. Then yesterday night as I do not wish to wait for another day to drive all the way to get Sarowin splitter, I bought a switcher at SenQ for the 3 in, 1 out and try to fix it but couldn't get it works.

From your diagram, you stated that the hdmi must in from astro beyond to wireless transmitter while the transmitter out to switcher. As for the HD10, the transmitter only has 1 hdmi port so how can I have 1 in and 1 out fm the transmitter?

Sorry for sounds like a noob with this questions but I'm really sucks on this as this is first time I try to fix myself  smile.gif
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I don't think your 3in-1out HDMI switch able to perform what you want to do. You need a HDMI splitter such as 1in-2out or the Sarowin 4in-2out. This way 1 output goes to TV and another output goes to Sarowin transmitter.

How much did you paid for the Sarowin HD10. I was thinking of buying the same but found that Winstar WS-AV511SR is the same design but much cheaper than Sarowin.
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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ May 3 2012, 09:46 AM)
Yes, I understood what you meant when the Sarowin HD10 Transmitter have only 1 HDMI In, NO HDMI Out. I do not have the Sarowin Kit and did not read more info on it so I downloaded the Sarowin manual and read it.

I will redraw my graphics to show different connections which uses only 1 HDMI IN to the Sarowin Transmitter.

Ok, I have redrawn my graphics for the connections (inside spoilers)...
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Since your Sarowin HD-10 Transmitter only have 1 HDMI IN, the HDMI Switcher (3 in/1 out) cannot be used because you need to connect your TV in the living room too. Refer to my redrawn graphics and you will see why you need to have a Switcher with 3 In/2 Out !

Here is another graphic showing the actual Sarowin Transmitter (1 In only) + Sarowin (4 In/2 Out)...
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According to the Sarowin manual, the Sarowin HDMI Switcher actually have 2 HDMI out... one connect to the Sarowin Transmitter and one connect to the TV.

Mmm... are there other brand HDMI Switchers that have 3 In and 2 Out ?

From the manual, the Sarowin Transmitter also have IR sensor BUT I am not sure whether all the remote controls can work or not for all 3 source (Byond, Blu-ray Play, Dune HD Mediaplayer) connected to another brand HDMI Switcher (3 In/2 Out). You may find that your 3 remotes cannot be used in your master room with the Sarowin Receiver. This is because you need to have the Sarowin IR Extender box (with A/C adapter) to connect 3 IR signal transmitter cables with the Sarowin Switcher. Sarowin is very clever because the Sarowin Transmitter do not have IR port to connect to the Sarowin IR Extender box, only the Sarowin Switcher have the IR port connection.

So... you cannot use your other brand HDMI Switcher (3 In/1 Out) and there is no IR port at the Sarowin Transmitter. Only after you are completely satisfied with only 1 Byond connection to your Sarowin first, then you have no choice and my best advice is for you to grab the Sarowin HDMI Switcher which comes together with the IR Extender Box and all the IR transmitter cables. I guess you can use the other brand HDMI Switcher (3 In/1 Out) for other purposes.

I hope I have finally answered your questions.

No problem to ask any noob questions as nobody knows everything, including me.  smile.gif
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Bro, thanks for your effort to help me and much appreciated thumbup.gif
Anyway I think I need 2 out in my splitter to fulfill my requirements as 1 out to TV and another out to Transmitter, right?


Added on May 3, 2012, 11:38 am
QUOTE(kimyee73 @ May 3 2012, 11:14 AM)
I don't think your 3in-1out HDMI switch able to perform what you want to do. You need a HDMI splitter such as 1in-2out or the Sarowin 4in-2out. This way 1 output goes to TV and another output goes to Sarowin transmitter.

How much did you paid for the Sarowin HD10. I was thinking of buying the same but found that Winstar WS-AV511SR is the same design but much cheaper than Sarowin.
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It costs me RM799, quite pricey but if it does the job and I can enjoy earlier than I don't really mind. Anyway becareful as some cheaper brand tend to have more distortion compared to branded one.

As for the splitter, maybe you got it right and seems I'm wasted my Rm129 for the 3 in and 1 out splitter sad.gif

This post has been edited by ronn77: May 3 2012, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ May 3 2012, 11:14 AM)
I don't think your 3in-1out HDMI switch able to perform what you want to do. You need a HDMI splitter such as 1in-2out or the Sarowin 4in-2out. This way 1 output goes to TV and another output goes to Sarowin transmitter.

How much did you paid for the Sarowin HD10. I was thinking of buying the same but found that Winstar WS-AV511SR is the same design but much cheaper than Sarowin.
Earlier, I did not know what brand that ronn77 bought but when he replied that he bought the Sarowin kit, I found out later and realised that the Sarowin Transmitter only have 1 HDMI IN and no OUT so I then posted my reply that he need to have 2 HDMI Out for the Switcher unit. There is the issue of IR relay connection for the remotes too if other brand HDMI Switcher is used.

Yes, when I first heard of the Sarowin kit, I was initially interested for use with my Byond but I found out that its pricey (RM 1000++ for Transmitter+Receiver+Switcher) so I decided not to get it. You have mentioned the Winstar WS-AV511SR as another choice which I will check on it. Thanks. Mmm... may I know where it is sold ?

If ronn77 can return the Sarowin kit he bought... its better to look for cheaper alternatives that provide the same HDMI features. If he cannot return it, then he has no choice and should get the Sarowin Switcher (4 In/2 Out).

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We're settling in for a long, vicious, mud-slinging, all-out, hitting, biting, scratching revival of the battle between Malaysia's Astro and Indonesia's Lippo Group. Lippo is screaming fraud. Astro has yelled back that Lippo, in dragging in the police – & Interpol no less – is simply trying to get out of paying the US$300-million Astro was awarded by an international arbitration court... & that's just for starters. As we said, get comfortable on this one.


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QUOTE(ronn77 @ May 3 2012, 11:37 AM)
Bro, thanks for your effort to help me and much appreciated  thumbup.gif
Anyway I think I need 2 out in my splitter to fulfill my requirements as 1 out to TV and another out to Transmitter, right?


Added on May 3, 2012, 11:38 am

It costs me RM799, quite pricey but if it does the job and I can enjoy earlier than I don't really mind. Anyway becareful as some cheaper brand tend to have more distortion compared to branded one.

As for the splitter, maybe you got it right and seems I'm wasted my Rm129 for the 3 in and 1 out splitter  sad.gif
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You are welcome. Glad to help. smile.gif

Yes, you have no choice so buying the Sarowin Switcher is the best option in my opinion because of the IR signal connection for the remote control. I think your total cost will reach RM 1000+ when the Sarowin Switcher is included. Not sure about the actual price now for "everything included" in the Sarowin kit.

Yes, 2 HDMI Out is required for the HDMI Switcher. Refer to my graphic which I later posted showing the Sarowin Switcher with 4 In / 2 Out.

I do agree that we have to be careful when choosing cheaper brands which may not be reliable so making sure is important.

Mmm... if you can.... return... your Sarowin kit to the seller... its better to look for a cheaper option that can provide the same HDMI features AND must also be reliable and have reasonable quality. It may not be easy to find a good and cheaper alternative. Mmm... I don't think the seller will allow any return, which is fair for any purchase, unless the seller earlier agreed to let you test it first, hehe.

Kimyee73 have replied and suggested Winstar WS-AV511SR. No harm to check this brand out but I am NOT suggesting that you buy it. I don't know anything about this brand so I cannot make any comments. Kimyee73 knows much more than me about this brand.

Whatever, only my personal opinion to choose other brands because I know nothing about them ! blush.gif

ADDITION - Winstar WS-AV511SR
Kimyee73 is right ! The Winstar WS-AV511SR look exactly the same as the Sarowin HD-10, just like a photostat copy and its selling at RM 550 for the complete set, WINSTAR WS-AV511SR Wireless 5G HD AV Kit w/HDMI Switch + IR (4-HDMI-IN-2-HDMI-OUT). I dare not take the risk to buy online from the malaysian online shopping site which sells this especially when the quoted price is so low. Its easy to find this malaysian seller, just google for it but be very careful of the risks from buying online, especially from unknown sites.

This product is manufactured by Winstars Technology, headquartered in Shenzhen, China. Did Winstar manufactured this product for Sarowin or the other way round ?

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: May 3 2012, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ May 3 2012, 11:56 AM)
Oh Assthrow... rclxms.gif
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things are extremely bad rclxms.gif one blow after another,wonder what next? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ May 3 2012, 12:25 PM)
You are welcome. Glad to help.  smile.gif

Yes, you have no choice so buying the Sarowin Switcher is the best option in my opinion because of the IR signal connection for the remote control. I think your total cost will reach RM 1000+ when the Sarowin Switcher is included. Not sure about the actual price now for "everything included" in the Sarowin kit.

Yes, 2 HDMI Out is required for the HDMI Switcher. Refer to my graphic which I later posted showing the Sarowin Switcher with 4 In / 2 Out.

I do agree that we have to be careful when choosing cheaper brands which may not be reliable so making sure is important.

Mmm... if you can.... return... your Sarowin kit to the seller... its better to look for a cheaper option that can provide the same HDMI features AND must also be reliable and have reasonable quality. It may not be easy to find a good and cheaper alternative. Mmm... I don't think the seller will allow any return, which is fair for any purchase, unless the seller earlier agreed to let you test it first, hehe.

Kimyee73 have replied and suggested Winstar WS-AV511SR. No harm to check this brand out but I am NOT suggesting that you buy it. I don't know anything about this brand so I cannot make any comments. Kimyee73 knows much more than me about this brand.

Whatever, only my personal opinion to choose other brands because I know nothing about them !  blush.gif

ADDITION - Winstar WS-AV511SR
Kimyee73 is right ! The Winstar WS-AV511SR look exactly the same as the Sarowin HD-10, just like a photostat copy and its selling at RM 550 for the complete set, WINSTAR WS-AV511SR Wireless 5G HD AV Kit w/HDMI Switch + IR (4-HDMI-IN-2-HDMI-OUT). I dare not take the risk to buy online from the malaysian online shopping site which sells this especially when the quoted price is so low. Its easy to find this malaysian seller, just google for it but be very careful of the risks from buying online, especially from unknown sites.

This product is manufactured by Winstars Technology, headquartered in Shenzhen, China. Did Winstar manufactured this product for Sarowin or the other way round ?
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Hi bro, Sarowin did allow 7 days refund policy. However as I already bought it and feel it works ok so no choice but to proceed with the purchase and I just back from getting the hdmi splitter (1 in, 2 out), fix it and it works now smile.gif . Yes, it's pricey as I wish to have alternative but my bad for not doing some homework here before purchase the HD10. Total price is $799 (transmitter) and $150 (hdmi splitter), total $949 mad.gif
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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ May 3 2012, 12:25 PM)
Kimyee73 is right ! The Winstar WS-AV511SR look exactly the same as the Sarowin HD-10, just like a photostat copy and its selling at RM 550 for the complete set, WINSTAR WS-AV511SR Wireless 5G HD AV Kit w/HDMI Switch + IR (4-HDMI-IN-2-HDMI-OUT). I dare not take the risk to buy online from the malaysian online shopping site which sells this especially when the quoted price is so low. Its easy to find this malaysian seller, just google for it but be very careful of the risks from buying online, especially from unknown sites.

This product is manufactured by Winstars Technology, headquartered in Shenzhen, China. Did Winstar manufactured this product for Sarowin or the other way round ?
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Winstar and Sarowin may not be the original manufacturer of this device and could have bought it from an OEM or they bought the reference design from chip designer. I've not personally bought stuff from MoreSale but I was told that it is fairly reputable online shop in MY. I'm a bit hesitant to order it due to lack of information how i should place the transmitter since the switch is attached together with it. I would not like to have HDMI cables running to it if I have to place it on my tv cabinet. My wife would be very unhappy with all the cables running around.

ronn77, appreciate if you able to describe more on problem you face when positioning the transmitter and receiver unit such as whether you can place them horizontally in cabinet or you need to place them vertically and have to rotate them around to get a good signal. Also you mentiond the distance of 7m for it to work well, how far is your current upstair/downstair setup. Thanks.

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ May 3 2012, 05:36 PM)
ronn77, appreciate if you able to describe more on problem you face when positioning the transmitter and receiver unit such as whether you can place them horizontally in cabinet or you need to place them vertically and have to rotate them around to get a good signal. Also you mentiond the distance of 7m for it to work well, how far is your current upstair/downstair setup. Thanks.
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It's hard to tell as initially when I place my receiver at masterroom and the picture quality jaded. Then after I tried positioning at another side and it become better so you need to experiment it as I believe it depend on your house structure. If distance without going through walls I think about easily 8 metres from my living decoder to my masterroom. However I found that the transmitter unit must be place at open space if possible in order to maximise the smooth flow of digital signals.

Another headache which I encountered initially was the position to place the ir on the decoder as the position is not exactly at the signal sign at your decoder but rather slightly to the right side.

Nevertheless try it and I will do my best to advise you if you encountered any problems smile.gif
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do SD channel quality improve or worse on byond compare to old decoder?
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do SD channel quality improve or worse on byond compare to old decoder?
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Hi guys,anyone heard anything about ABN,pls share what you heard !This thread is dying maybe we can gather some info for a new thread!!Is ABN ready ?

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More dialogue needed on sports content rights

Malaysia - The Malaysian Information Communications & Culture minister's recent comment that sports with mass appeal such as the Olympics can no longer be monopolised by one station, has stirred debate ahead of the London Olympic Games.

Having secured exclusive non-standard TV rights from the International Olympic Committee in 22 countries, including South East Asia, ESPN Star Sports spoke to A+M on how this might affect the network.

Manu Sawhney (pictured), managing director of ESPN Star Sports, said while it was currently reviewing the directives given by the ministry, he said an open dialogue was necessary.

"I think it is absolutely fair to say that the terms and conditions in any sports contract are really determined by the rights holder," he said.

"In this case, the IOC would decide how they want to give the rights in the market."

Sawhney emphasised that it was not the broadcaster who decided the terms and conditions of any rights, but rather the rights holder themselves.

"Our request at this stage to the ministry will be that they should speak to all the stakeholders and have an open dialogue with them and understand the issues before they come out with any directives."

For this year's Olympics, ESPN Star Sports will give extensive coverage across 15 dedicated channels and more than 3,600 hours of coverage for the games.

In addition to coverage on its core networks ESPN , other channels like STAR Sports, ESPN HD and ESPNEWS will be showing live events from the London 2012 games. The game will be viewed first time in 3D through the ESPN 3D London 2012 Olympic Channel.

Panasonic Malaysia recently announced its partnership with ESPN Star Sports as its ‘Official Worldwide Olympics Sponsor' to promote its new range of Smart VIERA TVs.

Besides Panasonic, Sawhney said it will soon announce its regional and local advertisers, adding that response so far has been positive and brands were eager to be a part of the network's integrated marketing initiatives.

In promoting the new channels, ESPN Star Sports will work with its partners in every market on joint marketing initiatives.


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Maybe someone should open a new thread for ABN? smile.gif
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QUOTE(lpsoldier007 @ May 6 2012, 03:42 PM)
Maybe someone should open a new thread for ABN? smile.gif
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Maybe after ABN launches (soon) then open a new thread for it. tongue.gif
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If ABN launches. They've went quiet again...
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now astro free channel already locked right cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(logit85 @ May 7 2012, 12:18 AM)
now astro free channel already locked right  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Sp1 like me don't getch ch.322 fta anymore hurr... thumbup.gif Oh, well...
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