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 Astro B.yond Episode IV (Version 9.0), The New World of Entertainment

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post Dec 9 2011, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 9 2011, 06:29 AM)
I agree with u,but UNifi is  just TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO slow,they  shld move it and reach all homes not still crawling ! hmm.gif Astro wl never  improve quality they are not bothered cos they hv govt backing,until today did we did not see astro react with changes !Not even  adding more channels,HD quality is still bad on astro ,thats true.
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What do u mean by "HD quality is still bad on astro"?
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post Dec 9 2011, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 9 2011, 08:53 AM)
I saw HD on astro iptv, unifi and astro, i feel somehow something is lacking in the form of sharpness,deep colour and overall PQ ,it could be a personal view but  a few forumers here did say the same.Upscaled content and compression could have contribted to that.Above all it cld hv been a matter of taste.
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I will reserve my comment until I see all of them on the same display. But I hv seen hd broadcasts from different parts of the world and can't really fault astros hd broadcast at the moment (strictly from a pq point if view)

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post Mar 23 2012, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Mar 23 2012, 06:17 PM)
voilĂ , digital radio, sound is crystal clear LOL
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Thanks for this tip. Time to find my old DMT box...
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post Mar 29 2012, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Mar 29 2012, 08:55 PM)
Smileguy, my thanks for bringing this "fascinating" news here.

Here's a portion of what Ananda stated...
"Pay-TV companies are always at the mercy of content providers. So costs are rising faster than revenue," said an analyst with an investment bank in Kuala Lumpur. "On top of that there is more competition now with other providers and IPTV is increasingly becoming the norm around the world. Satellite TV is dying," he added.

Ananda mentioned that an analyst stated that Pay-TV costs are rising faster than revenue. Then Ananda added more... "on top of that (analyst statement)" ... that IPTV is increasingly becoming the norm and Satellite TV is dying. Only Ananda said that the "Satellite TV is dying" which the analyst did not mention.

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james,

Re-read the article. An unnamed source from Usaha Tegas made that comment not AK...
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post May 3 2012, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ May 3 2012, 09:44 AM)
biggrin.gif Thanks for answering. Here is a thread from RWI for Astro monopoly.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2270465
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Actually a lot if the talk in this thread belongs in the thread u linked.
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post Jun 25 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(pandaeyess @ Jun 25 2012, 03:03 PM)
Hi guys,

I have a question, I am thinking of upgrading my package to superpack 3 with HD service.

At the moment I am using non HD package and the main decoder is in my room. I have a 2nd plasma tv downstairs via RCA splitter. My connection is a bit complicated in which the splitter RCA cable is then linked to a RCA converter which is then linked to the TV downstairs using the standard antenna cable.

I was told that once I use BeyondHD service, my RCA adaptor on the terminal will be disabled and I can only use the HDMI output. That would mean I won be able to use the tv downstairs.

Is this true?

Any way so that I can use both HDMI and RCA at he same time?
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This is not true. Hdmi , component and composite video as well as audio out are active at the same time.

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post Jul 6 2012, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jul 5 2012, 01:40 AM)
Is it just me, or overall PQ on HD channels needs to be improved b4 SD one? hmm.gif
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In what sense r u looking for improvements?
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post Jul 6 2012, 01:44 PM

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His comment was that PQ of HD needs to be improved before SD.

In my opinion the SD is compressed quite a bit, the only external processor that can make it more than watchable is the Lumagen.

The renowned HQV Reon could not. Some of the scaler chips in most TVs do a good job as well. To compare that u shd send a 576i signal from the component output from ur decoder.

smileguy,
What signal did u send to ur AVR to upscale for SD?
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post Jul 8 2012, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Jul 6 2012, 02:50 PM)
bro what i meant was my hdmi goes to avr upscaled and back to tv by which i see the pq was far better
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Did u send 1080i to ur AVR? If u did, there is no upscaling...Its only deinterlacing. If u r seeing a big difference, could u let me know what display u hv? And the AVR as well.

Edit : Just saw that u mentioned Yamaha. Again, its the same, if u send a 1080i signal u r only deinterlacing if the Yamaha is outputing 1080p. There is no upscaling involved. Could u pls explain what the differences u r seeing.

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Jul 9 2012, 06:16 AM)
Thanks for info James,learnt new things ! I am not a AV genious,all I wl say The  SD PQ especially on both  Toshiba Regza LCD and Panasonic PLasma 50VT thru my yamaha AVR RXV 671 is much improved and great and when I removed the LCD to my room without AVR I see the true Assstro SD PQ!Maybe for some  it could be  a matter of taste but I feel my AVR has done a lot! To me for asstro SD besides old CRT Plasma is the best!

for easy reference!671 Yamaha
Video Features
HDMI 3D passthrough
Yes
HDMI Audio Return Channel
Yes
component upconversion
Yes
HDMI upscaling
Yes (Analog to HDMI / HDMI to HDMI)
Deep Color/x.v.Color/24Hz Refresh Rate /Auto Lip-Sync
Yes
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smileguy,

From what u r saying, u r sending a 1080i signal from ur byond box and it is sending out 1080p to ur display.

The Panasonic vs the Yammy doing the deinterlacing shd be pretty close. What could be happening and to troubleshoot this I would hv to be there could be the following:

1. The yammy is doing more that it shd be. The signal from the byond box is YCbCr 4:4:4 8 bit. The Panasonic does best with YCbCr 4:2:2 8bit. However, the differences are marginal. It is possible that the Yammy is converting the YCbCr 4:4:4 to 4:2:2 (I doubt it)

2. There is something else going on ie the Yammy is sharpening the output that is seeming to look better. (other possiblities are mosquito noise reduction, and block noise reduction)

The 1080i signal from the box is merely being deinterlaced to 1080p and the most prominent thing to look for would be deinterlacing artefacts. The byond box is upscaling the SD channels from 576i to 1080i. In my opinion, comparing a host of chipsets, the byond box is one of the weakest in that respect. You can get better results if u send the SD channels thru the component outs of the byond box (576i with minimal processing). The scalars I hv tested for this are the Lumagen Radiance, HQV Reon,ABT2010, Pioneer Kuros built in scalars (among the best in the business). The best image can be had using the Lumagen Radiance with the additional noise reduction capabilities it has. It also has the best scaling algorithms that is a no "rings" scaling leaving nice images with no additional halos. Using the Edge Enhancement in the Radiance does further wonders. This way the colour space conversion errors are also minimized as the correct PAL colour space is used. The further advantage is the scaling capability of the Radiance for 4:3 to 16:9 while preserving aspect ratio to the best it can.

However, u see what u see, if u feel the Yammy deinterlacing is the best, that thats the best for u.

The main thing is the SD channels are compressed heavily. Some channels are better than others.
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QUOTE(chuppachop @ Aug 1 2012, 09:48 PM)
oic.....thanks for the reply and pix.  biggrin.gif
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chuppachop,

I spent some time down south last weekend. I had the chance to finally do some in depth analysis of the HD channels that Spore has to offer.

I found the FTA HD5 pretty good. I believe this was thru the StartHub box at my friends place. The display was also calibrated prior to me making my analysis. For a FTA channel, its pretty good.

I also observed the same stuff in 3 other residential houses with various displays all post calibration.

I noted that the compression on the HD channels offered by starhub are pretty high. I saw a lot of instances of pixelation or signs of bitrate starvation which is much less seen in Astro channels. I'm not sure if this is normal or maybe its just something that is happening due to the Olympics - channels being added. The other observation is that the framerates seem to be messed up on some channels where judder was seen clearly (again the displays were setup correctly). I saw it on some of the documentary channels as well as HBOHD. Is this ur observation as well? I observed the same issues with the sports channels as well. I could not see any option to check it on the decoder boxes and the only thing was resolution option.

I only checked out MioTVs offerings briefly and observed the pixelation as well, however motion seemed ok. Do u know who makes the decoder boxes for StarHub?
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QUOTE(chuppachop @ Aug 3 2012, 06:43 PM)
Starhub HD Interactive Box - CISCO
Starhub HD Hubstation, i.e. PVR - Thomson [now known as Technicolor]

Yes, the settings/options are only limited to resolution Output.....very crappy....in fact, u will noticed the menu interface is ancient dinosaur.....could not be compared to astro or mio TV.  doh.gif

Yup, some of the HD channels are compressed....believe the priority is given to premium movie channels like FOX Movies Premium HD, FOX Family Movies HD, HBO Channels, Star Chinese Movie HD etc

The compression is quite obvious in fast motion scenes on History channel.

Actually, even SD channels are compressed, again channels they feel are not important like [V], Diva etc. are quite compressed....

I'm not sure how to tell framerates on the channels......

For HD5, not all programs are in HD though....have to wait till HD8, HD Suria & HD Vasantham [by end of 2013] to really see how Mediacorp fares.....
http://www.mda.gov.sg/Public/DigitalTV/Pag....aspx#keypoint2
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Thanks for the info.

The one thing that caught me by surprise was the compression I saw on HBO HD (which is given priority in Astro as well, Fox Movie HD seems be better in Astro though).

There were framerate mismatch for sure. I am quite sure the output of the box was 1080i/50Hz but the motion on the channels seems to suggesting some conversions going on.

SD channels were about the same as I saw here but I did not spend too much time on those to offer an solid opinion.

I have to say that I was impressed with the HD I saw off the HD5 channel.

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post Aug 4 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(chuppachop @ Aug 3 2012, 09:57 PM)
no problem.....let me know if u wish to know anything else.  biggrin.gif

P.S. the HD Olympics channels are only available on mio TV. Starhub does not have the rights to carry them.....yr original posts seems toention Olympics on Starhub. :-)
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I watched Olympics on HD5 I believe. I meant that I thought the compression I observed was possibly due to the addition of the temp Olympic channels. I did not watch any Olympics on StarHub and did not know that StarHub is not airing them, but if that is the case, then the compression is excessive in my opinion on HBO HD which normally gets higher priority at cable providers.

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