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 Astro B.yond Episode IV (Version 9.0), The New World of Entertainment

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Qash-M
post Apr 13 2012, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(chikana @ Apr 13 2012, 05:37 PM)

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They using different code rate each, that is why the total mux bitrate is different from each operators. The higher bitrate, the less error correction. Not sure Astro using which code rate.
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Did Astro HD channels gets more error correction since day 1 of B.yond launch? brows.gif laugh.gif
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post Apr 13 2012, 10:08 PM

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ABN would like to know what you think! Can you please spare 5 minutes to take our survey?
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post Apr 13 2012, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(dannychen @ Apr 13 2012, 10:08 PM)
Already finished. If it's basic package pack is cheaper than Asstro, sure is good. brows.gif
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post Apr 13 2012, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 13 2012, 09:25 PM)
Did Astro HD channels gets more error correction since day 1 of B.yond launch? brows.gif  laugh.gif
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What do you understand about error correction or fec?
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post Apr 14 2012, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(chikana @ Apr 13 2012, 11:44 PM)
What do you understand about error correction or fec?
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I pun x faham juga. tongue.gif
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post Apr 14 2012, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(dannychen @ Apr 13 2012, 10:08 PM)
When you stated "our survey"... that means you are an employee, a representative or have some relationship with ABN ?
Taking part in the survey is easy job, won't take more than a few minutes.

Yea, I do know that the survey may not be written by you and also you will not able to answer my questions here... so, if possible, just pass my comments and opinions to your superiors, hehe.

Please accept my apologies if any part of my opinions sound stupid or silly.

Does ABN have any intention to launch fast speed broadband services at the same time as the launching of IPTV ? Or will broadband not be launched presently and will be a future service ? If broadband will be launched together with IPTV, then the survey should include questions related to broadband... such as... which speed is preferred like 5 Mb, 10Mb, 20Mb, etc and what is the maximum price that we can afford to pay per month ? Not necessary exactly like what I have suggested but I think you know what I mean.

Or ABN is only concentrating on cable TV, no internet broadband ? Nothing on broadband was mentioned and I will really be surprised if it is not in ABN's plans.

I noticed that the ABN official website (http://abnxcess.com/) have not been updated for a long time now so it should be much much better to have more constant news updates which will surely help to generate more interest from potential future subscribers. Even the survey link that you posted here, is surely NOT enough and the link should be shown at the official website too. Mmm... is the web admin at ABN website overworked or sleeping ?

I believe that you already knew that ABN will not rely so much on such web survey because its highly not accurate. Example... I like Chinese and Documentary genres and I took the survey more than a hundred times just to make sure these two genres are the most popular ones chosen so... try multiplying this many times with my chinese friends who also answered the survey the same way. Yes... I do agree that such general web surveys do play some role such as for overall general trends and tastes, and such survey forms only a small part of the main total results from professional survey firms.

At present, maybe I am blind but I am not aware of any news about which specific location in Klang Valley that will be the coverage area for initial launch of Cable IPTV. If work is ongoing or about to be completed soon, I should think that such known areas be announced as soon as possible. By early announcements, ABN can attract potential customers to wait to prevent such people from regretting signing in to Byond IPTV or UniFi with 1 year contract. This will avoid ABN having to wait 1 year for such people to change.

Actually I am a bit jealous that people like me in central Pahang cannot expect to get ABN cable TV for at least many many years or totally may not come to my hometown. Eventhough my location is not possible in the near future, I am still hoping that ABN can succeed in big cities which can at least give a bit more competition to Assteruk !

Danny, I am only expressing a little bit of my rubbish here so I don't expect you to reply.

QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 13 2012, 10:10 PM)
Already finished. If it's basic package pack is cheaper than Asstro, sure is good. brows.gif


Hehe... yes, the cheaper the better with more channels. Satellite and Cable TV Channels which repeats content is normal and happening globally.

For example... For 50 channels... RM 100 monthly with 70% content repeats OR RM 80 with 85 % content repeats ARE BAD !!!

Hehe... what I want is ... For 50 channels.... RM 100 monthly with 50% content repeats OR RM 80 with 55% content repeats ARE MUCH MUCH BETTER lah !!!

Best of luck to you and all the lucky folks whose homes are within the coverage area of ABN. I am so jealous and can only dream for Cable TV to be nationwide.

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post Apr 14 2012, 05:44 AM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 13 2012, 10:10 PM)
Already finished. If it's basic package pack is cheaper than Asstro, sure is good. brows.gif
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ABN shld reveal launching when ,what and where first,we dont know where and how much it can cover !!Wider coverage reasonable pricing and variety and NO IN HOUSE !! flex.gif As bro.james said the website was never updated and note also FB comments never replied. hmm.gif

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post Apr 14 2012, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(chikana @ Apr 13 2012, 11:44 PM)
What do you understand about error correction or fec?
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In theory, if the FEC rate used is small, the chances of the transmitted bitrate data being able to be corrected will be lower.

Likewise, if FEC rate used is larger, the chances of correcting a corrupted bit will be higher, thus reducing errors created during transmission of a signal, because u are using slightly more bandwidth to forward error correct transmitted bits.

If Astro uses small FEC rate, you may experience easier tendency to get the service unavailable msg, compared to using a larger FEC rate. So... here is how u can test in Astro. When it rains at your place, try surfing the channels. Some may still be watchable despite the rain, some wouldn't [however you must also take account into the frequency those channels are locked to, hence it would only be fair to compare the same frequency set of channels to justify the FEC rate]
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post Apr 14 2012, 10:18 AM

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@jamesleetech, I'm just copy and paste from their fb. sorry to confused you as I'm not related to them anyway.
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post Apr 14 2012, 10:34 AM

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BBC confirms use of variable bit-rate encoding on HD channel
21 Jun 2010

The BBC has confirmed that, following criticism of worsening picture quality on its HD channel, it has switched to variable bit-rate encoding.


http://www.whathifi.com/news/BBC-confirms-...-on-HD-channel/

That's for UK back in 2010. Astro? Not telling if their using VBR or CBR for the HD channel. Lacks of transparency. yawn.gifAttached Image

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post Apr 14 2012, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 14 2012, 12:00 AM)
I pun x faham juga. tongue.gif
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Secara teorinya kalau astro guna code rate tinggi, sepatutnya hujan lebat takde masalah, tapi dari dulu sampai sekarang same je ....smile.gif


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In theory, if the FEC rate used is small, the chances of the transmitted bitrate data being able to be corrected will be lower.

Likewise, if FEC rate used is larger, the chances of correcting a corrupted bit will be higher, thus reducing errors created during transmission of a signal, because u are using slightly more bandwidth to forward error correct transmitted bits.

If Astro uses small FEC rate, you may experience easier tendency to get the service unavailable msg, compared to using a larger FEC rate. So... here is how u can test in Astro. When it rains at your place, try surfing the channels. Some may still be watchable despite the rain, some wouldn't [however you must also take account into the frequency those channels are locked to, hence it would only be fair to compare the same frequency set of channels to justify the FEC rate]
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I think to test the efficiency of the code rate use is to compare channel from different frequency/transponder not on the same transponder as each transponder may use different fec.


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But if testing on different frequency, it might not be a fair testing? The higher frequencies might be more susceptible to rain fade compared to the lower frequencies. Shouldn't that be taken account into?
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post Apr 14 2012, 05:52 PM

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Fyi, 3 Sony Hindi channels launched on Mio TV yesterday. All are the Asia/international feed. Cheers.


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Any idea what background song title when call Astro CS (1300). Any idea? Sorry bit off topic. :?
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QUOTE(chuppachop @ Apr 14 2012, 05:52 PM)
Fyi, 3 Sony Hindi channels launched on Mio TV yesterday. All are the Asia/international feed. Cheers.
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Fantastic! Variety and international content this is what we lack here ! We have almost 50 In House channels!!!Thanks for the update pal! You wl be surprised we have only one Hindi which is Zee repacked Msian version!! biggrin.gif
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Still got contract for PVR wanna upgrade to dreambox don't want to waste money anymore
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QUOTE(smileguy @ Apr 15 2012, 06:56 AM)
Fantastic! Variety and international content this is what we lack here ! We have almost 50 In House channels!!!Thanks for the update pal! You wl be surprised we have only one Hindi which is Zee repacked Msian version!! biggrin.gif
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50 in-house channels = more staff needed to produce trailers, schedule the channel, tape dubbing etc.

maybe astro trying to come across as being a good corporate citizen and create more jobs etc. smile.gif

Don't lose hope. smile.gif
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QUOTE(MX510 @ Apr 15 2012, 06:56 AM)
Still got contract for PVR wanna upgrade to dreambox don't want to waste money anymore

I don't work for Astro and absolutely have NO relationship with them.

Its "change"... not "upgrade" to Dreambox or Openbox decoder box. Some people may misunderstand and think that Astro got such decoder boxes.

As far as I know, such boxes need to have internet connection and need to pay a very cheap monthly fee (to the pirate) to unlock all Astro channels. Once the "authorities" catch the pirate by finding out the server that delivers the unlock decrypted codes, it will be offline and have to find another pirate... but I have not heard news of this happening yet, so I am not sure.

Only buying Dreambox and Openbox decoder boxes may not be illegal. Receiving Astro or Satellite Pay TV may be illegal so be careful eventhough you may not be caught. I am not a lawyer so I used "may" words. I know many people are using this method to illegally receive Astro channels. From my "inside" source information, I can confirm that Astro already knew about this and is still finding ways to block such methods. DAMN! Receiving Free-To-Air satellite TV channels IS legal and you need to know the coordinates of the satellite to position direction of the Astro dish. Some decoder box models do not support HD. I cannot say more and will not answer any such questions on these boxes or how to use them.

I think in 2004, I remember watching from my friend's house a "hidden" horse racing in-house channel broadcast Live from Perak Turf Club with Astro commentators wearing green Astro uniforms and spoke in cantonese. Only available on racing days. At that time, he used "ah-hem" decoder box which do not need smartcard and no internet connection but it cannot be used now after Astro have changed "something" ...mmm... in 2005 or later.

I know that you knew about all this so I am NOT trying to scare you. Its just a matter of each person's choice so you have the right to your own belief and decision. I choose not to support piracy as my own principle and my friends have called me stupid for not downloading illegal full blu-ray videos (about 25 GB or 50 GB per blu-ray disc). Yes... I also hated those "Movie BIG Guns" who always use new protection methods on blu-ray discs that causes problems with some blu-ray players... example... in 2010, some people cannot play the movie "Avatar" and can only play after updating the blu-ray player firmware. At that time, I did have problems ripping my legal "Avatar" BD (REDBIRD) to my harddisk as backup and only solved it later with new version of Slysoft AnyDVD HD. I believe that I am legally entitled to keep a single backup copy so that I can play my collection easily from one harddisk location. Eventhough I really hated those movie big guns, it doesn't mean I can use excuses to support piracy... only my own stupid belief !

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QUOTE(chuppachop @ Apr 15 2012, 12:18 PM)
50 in-house channels = more staff needed to produce trailers, schedule the channel, tape dubbing etc.

maybe astro trying to come across as being a good corporate citizen and create more jobs etc.  smile.gif

Don't lose hope.  smile.gif
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I agree with you on that! What most people don't understand is why go through all the trouble having such processes than just bring in another channel and just air it? Astro wants to create more opportunities for local music/film industry and at the same time grow local industry's filming scene. If you have seen those astro first own production, its not bad actually, like the recent cinta kura2. And I actually do feel proud as for once we are progressing in this industry. It may be slow, but better than nothing.

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hello guys, Byond V3.0S2 is the latest now, is it?

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