Friend, Water conduct electric.

Even domestic rubber glove will conduct electric if the voltage are high, for domestic 230v is safe, but for 11kv maybe not. Its all depend the voltage.

That's what i thought too. Near the on/off switch.

The GE RCCB I saw in the shop also this type. Hager also same.


Yes can mount on the wall. The shop showed me the RM2.00 plastic RCCB wall housing, all covered up with a square opening at the center for switch and test button.

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can take a picture and share to us, of the rccb you have installed?

any recommended storage water heaters? been looking at Joven so far..

Well, if it doesn't look ugly and industrial look, you can install it. But my imagine of this rccb mount on wall doesn't look nice. I rather get the eBay 1, since the price not different much.

Somehow there is a loophole on this water heater. Probably manufacturing keep it secret from public.

Any comments for used joven centre system?

Is the price list for "used" or new? If new that not that expensive.

I just bought an Alpha Smart i18 instant heater. Cost alone oledi 600+

But I supposed for storage heater, you have to factor in the copper piping, that will really jack up the final cost.

Hopefully by next year can save enough budget......

All things will spoil eventually. Oil Seal, crack that cause the water leak and conduct current. Quality of the product are important.

Using two in my house. Nothing to comment, it perform what it build for, i.e. heating up water.

There is a breather hole/pipe, this will leak some water out and need to pipe it. If your plumber experience he will know how to do it.

The price on the Joven storage is list price, its much cheaper after discount. Cheaper than any instance heater with build in pump.

Installation is another story.

How long hv you been using the Joven, ever changed the heating element?

My new house has a heater point on the concrete roof slab, right next to the water tank.
(Don't know what developer was thinking)

Can this type of storage heater be mounted on top? In open air.

Installed Q3 2011, start using Dec 2011 till now. Nothing change.

Open air/expose?

May be is for pump, not storage.

Wonder whats wrong with mine, was working fine until last year, changed the element 3 times so far, the repair guy told me to try Elton

- Is the element original from Joven?
- How is your storage placed? If you did not place properly air may be inside and the heating element is heating the air instead of water.

Heating element won't spoil so fast, what was the cause of failure? Did you ask the technician?

If want, change to Rinnai Gas much better.

Thanks

I dont think Elton is Italian. It's made by a local company, if not mistaken taken over Ignis and turn it into Elton.
I used an Ignis storage heater for 9 years. Used Joven storage heaters for 7 years. No problem.

Maybe you need to change the whole thing instead of just the element. Go ahead and try Elton this time around. Just like some light fixtures, certain bulbs always blows much faster than the rest for no apparent reason.