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post Sep 21 2014, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Sep 21 2014, 06:01 PM)
yeah...but i just have the habit of not changing things...of coz this has something to do with safety hence wondering if there are any other ways...
i have a pana heater send back for them to check cause i thought rosak(but actually the problem lies with the switch) end up paying RM70 just to check and tell me nothing wrong...
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I also the same, won't simply change things. But now this perception changes as when my 1st water heater fails, the pump "exploded" with all the carbon.
What if it leaks before fails? I won't be here anymore cry.gif
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post Oct 1 2014, 08:38 PM

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hi all experts....i want to ask about multipoint instant water heaters.....such as this:

Beebest Multi-point Instant water heater.....

is that a direct replacement to centralized water heater tank system?
anyone using?

based on what i read on their website...it sounds like a direct replacement

thoughts and reviews much appreciated.
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post Oct 1 2014, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Oct 1 2014, 08:38 PM)
hi all experts....i want to ask about multipoint instant water heaters.....such as this:

Beebest Multi-point Instant water heater.....

is that a direct replacement to centralized water heater tank system?
anyone using?

based on what i read on their website...it sounds like a direct replacement

thoughts and reviews much appreciated.
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according to their website it says, "Electric Tankless On-Demand Instant Water Heater is specially designed to supply hot water with maximum efficiency and reliability. You can enjoy hot from any mixer tap at your home for shower, wash basin, bath tub, Jacuzzi, kitchen sink and washing machine."

fuyoh i really wonder how this little thing can fill a bath tub or jacuzzi with hot water or can supply to multi point as they claimed. sweat.gif
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ok ler....i dont have jacuzzi....i only plan to use it for my shower....

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post Oct 1 2014, 09:31 PM

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If this is the one you talking about http://www.beebest.com.my/index.php?option...#specifications

Prepare a thick wires. Minimal is 4.5kwatt it sure going to take minimal 20amps. Switch this on it draw current like your water.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 1 2014, 09:31 PM)
If this is the one you talking about http://www.beebest.com.my/index.php?option...#specifications

Prepare a thick wires. Minimal is 4.5kwatt it sure going to take minimal 20amps. Switch this on it draw current like your water.
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Is this a local brand?
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post Oct 1 2014, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 1 2014, 09:31 PM)
If this is the one you talking about http://www.beebest.com.my/index.php?option...#specifications

Prepare a thick wires. Minimal is 4.5kwatt it sure going to take minimal 20amps. Switch this on it draw current like your water.
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Haha....I was about to tag you rclxms.gif
It draws even more power than two of my induction cooktop biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by idoblu: Oct 1 2014, 09:51 PM
Unwir3D
post Oct 2 2014, 08:58 PM

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I'm looking to install Rinnai gas water heater for my double story terrace.

So far the quote i got is the following,

Rinnai 16L external gas water heater. RM2300

Plumbing and installation using hanson poly piping for 3 bath, 1 kitchen and installation of water pump. RM4800


Question here, do you guys this is worth of investment? The plumbing charges is so expensive cry.gif


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post Oct 2 2014, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(Unwir3D @ Oct 2 2014, 08:58 PM)
I'm looking to install Rinnai gas water heater for my double story terrace.

So far the quote i got is the following,

Rinnai 16L external gas water heater. RM2300

Plumbing and installation using hanson poly piping for 3 bath, 1 kitchen and installation of water pump. RM4800
Question here, do you guys this is worth of investment? The plumbing charges is so expensive  cry.gif
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Ask installer from the shop you bought the unit. They may have plumber to introduce.

My storage piping also around 1.5k just the two bathroom on first floor.

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post Oct 2 2014, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(Unwir3D @ Oct 2 2014, 08:58 PM)
I'm looking to install Rinnai gas water heater for my double story terrace.

So far the quote i got is the following,

Rinnai 16L external gas water heater. RM2300

Plumbing and installation using hanson poly piping for 3 bath, 1 kitchen and installation of water pump. RM4800
Question here, do you guys this is worth of investment? The plumbing charges is so expensive  cry.gif
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Why not get those instant type? Cheaper but have to take some extra precaution.
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post Oct 2 2014, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(Unwir3D @ Oct 2 2014, 08:58 PM)
I'm looking to install Rinnai gas water heater for my double story terrace.

So far the quote i got is the following,

Rinnai 16L external gas water heater. RM2300

Plumbing and installation using hanson poly piping for 3 bath, 1 kitchen and installation of water pump. RM4800
Question here, do you guys this is worth of investment? The plumbing charges is so expensive  cry.gif
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definitely not worth it. dont forget you need to hack your bathroom and redo all the tiles as well. in the end you spend 10k just for all these.
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post Oct 2 2014, 09:30 PM

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No wonder gas water heater not so popular here, maybe i should go for storage type instead.
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post Oct 2 2014, 09:52 PM

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What do you guys think about SEERS water heater? Any good?
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post Oct 2 2014, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Oct 2 2014, 09:24 PM)
definitely not worth it. dont forget you need to hack your bathroom and redo all the tiles as well. in the end you spend 10k just for all these.
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The same for storage and solar, all need copper or stainless steel piping.
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post Oct 2 2014, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 2 2014, 10:23 PM)
The same for storage and solar, all need copper or stainless steel piping.
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I know. You should reply to him tongue.gif
The cost is not the method but the hot water plumbing for whole house

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post Oct 2 2014, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Unwir3D @ Oct 2 2014, 09:52 PM)
What do you guys think about SEERS water heater? Any good?
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It heats up water just the same so why pay more for seers?

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post Oct 2 2014, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Unwir3D @ Oct 2 2014, 08:58 PM)
I'm looking to install Rinnai gas water heater for my double story terrace.

So far the quote i got is the following,

Rinnai 16L external gas water heater. RM2300

Plumbing and installation using hanson poly piping for 3 bath, 1 kitchen and installation of water pump. RM4800
Question here, do you guys this is worth of investment? The plumbing charges is so expensive  cry.gif
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If you add in the material with the hacking and plumbing, don't see it expensive.

Your water pump already cost RM1k+.
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post Oct 4 2014, 05:59 PM

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Dear All, I am looking for a good water heater, and energy saving. I am looking into Seers due to a few shops strongly recommended Seers DC heater. It was impressed that it can save 60% energy. I have read thru Seers forum and brochure, But with my electrical background, energy can not created nor destroyed. Hence, I have a doubt that the energy can be save until this extend.
And I ask my Singapore friend in this field and he don't believe.
And I feel weird that the salesman and brochure mentioned that all the model can save 60% energy, but from the Seers forum I think only their Hybrid range can save this much, and I also don't believe the single tank, double tank, all can save that much due to the principle is better insulation.
Can some one help on this?
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post Oct 4 2014, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Alan Chia @ Oct 4 2014, 05:59 PM)
Dear All, I am looking for a good water heater, and energy saving. I am looking into Seers due to a few shops strongly recommended Seers DC heater. It was impressed that it can save 60% energy. I have read thru Seers forum and brochure, But with my electrical background, energy can not created nor destroyed. Hence, I have a doubt that the energy can be save until this extend.
And I ask my Singapore friend in this field and he don't believe.
And I feel weird that the salesman and brochure mentioned that all the model can save 60% energy, but from the Seers forum I think only their Hybrid range can save this much, and I also don't believe the single tank, double tank, all can save that much due to the principle is better insulation.
Can some one help on this?
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With your engineering background, you already know the answer. It doesn't matter Ac or DC generating heat still need current.

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post Oct 4 2014, 06:17 PM

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Then how can they misleading users in such a marketing way?? Even they have a Return of investment chart!! I thought all of it models can save energy in such, if not perhaps 30%!! And I think energy saving is only the hybrid systems not even the double tank one. If this is the fact, we must spread out this news to avoid them to mislead other people!!! Pls correct me if I am wrong.

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