No as in cars with no mods and driven by aunties slowly also faced the same issue.

Does VW Passat Sedan has any problems??

So the only solution provided is the software update right?

The truth about the dsg7 is that the engine power running very close to the limit of the gearbox. The dsg7 is rated at 250nm n most of the engine that coupled to this gearbox ie tsi1.4 n 1.8 is at 160-180hp with 240-260nm at the wheel. This mean on crank u looking at almost 170-190hp n 260-280nm. That is 2.5l NA equivalent power. The 0-100 accel is addictive too n I seen way too many auntie n folks spinning wheel at traffic light doing launch control. With the dry n lower rated dsg limit that's is just a recipe for accelerated wear n year. There are cases of mechatronic failure or clutch pack issues for complete stock as mentioned but they are also many who driven for 60-70k km in 12mths without issue. So is the gear box design bad or just a batch issue? So far many of those who have replace the parts are having no further issue. So I think more of a batch issue.

But how many are willing n honest about what they have done to their car before the dsg failed? I know a few who remap barely out of showroom n start to ARempit like no body business and then parts failed.. And cry baby... And quietly revert to stock but get caught by vw because the car computer ecu keep track of flash count n losses their warranty.

If u drive it as it is without mod, if things failed u got 5 yrs unlimited mileage warranty to take care of thing.

If u worry too much buy the usual t & h n keep ur resale value. If u think vw bad, go and check out the BMW/peugeot/ford etc forum too...

I like the passat. But alot people saying DSG gearbox got problem.
Not Really know much details until you explain. BTW, VW got launch control?

Anynews on 2.0 VW BEATLE ?? heard that the new beatles will be launch within this year ? anyone that have info please do share ..

so far engines available for 2012 beetle are
1.2 turbo, 1.4 twincharge & 2.0 turbo

afaik golf & rocco are same pricing outside of malaysia,
so beetle might be similar price range as a rocco, maybe cheaper
since it's a 2 door

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. But how does one actually get 10hp/20NM more just by flooring? That's what you meant by cranking right?

Well I think GTI drivers are more likely to do the launch control but they had no problems with their gearbox (or at least not as common as the TSI). So my humble take is that if it's built as a feature in the car and that's one of the features VW used to sell the car then it should be sustainable.

I think you meant the clutch plate. Do you work at the VW service centre or higher management? I just wonder how you deduced that it's more likely a batch issue that's all. (because one usually needs to have the statistics to be able to tell things like this) I'm interested to learn more, not challenging you. It would be comforting if you could say that 2011 batch has significantly less such reported case. But then this batch has been driven for only 1 year 's time so it could just be that the problem doesn't emerged so soon. Whereas having no problem after replacing the parts, you need to factor in that it takes time for the new parts to fail like How the original parts only failed after some time and also the experience of having the parts replaced will impact the drivers' behavior. 1. Being explained how and why the parts failed in the first place. 2. The super long wait when VW replaces the parts.

So what I got is that it cannot be concluded that the failure of the mechatronics is caused by driving patterns. It could be, but with what's presented on the table it's just opinion, not conclusion. And that it's too soon to tell that the problem is solved (long term sustainability) after replacing the parts.

I think ppl are not so worried by the breakdown of the parts itself but the slow and bad service VW gave them when the parts fail.

Isn't VW selling >1k cars per month now? To me all things are bound to fail, it's how it's taken cared of when things fail that is the 'reliability'. With the increase in VW driver base in MY, if the management is serious about their business they would look into the 'reliability'. Just my 2 cents.

This post has been edited by everclear: Jul 1 2012, 09:33 PM

Make sense, if it is true, it clears my doubt on DSG's reliability and confidence on VW.

its all under gomen approval of importing parts. similar with other car makers. Import duties are quite a headache for warranty parts. unless you buying it. The car maker need to reduce the import duties = apply for the waiver
all those take times. unless they got the parts before selling.

likely VW selling 1k car per month. maybe stock parts only like 1-3%. if alot customer claim they will raise it.
at the end, all business about running cost.

understand our pain but still is a business for them. hard to get equal balance. too good to be true

Yup, you nailed it on the dot with this. Its not about being worried that I couldn't get it replaced but the poor service. Imagine a month without having a car, no courtesy car, false promises, constantly having to call them to find out the status only knowing that the car was just left there unattended. Their sales are definitely high but at the moment they are trying very hard to improve on their service.

I believe that they are well aware of the DSG7 issue. So I'd like to think that the DSG update is their solution to that.

I guess they wouldn't know themselves how well it'll solve the problem (only slows down the wear and tear or fix it permanently) until sometime later. It better not be like my previous Samsung washing machine, 1 year warranty and it konk out during the 13th month. >_<

This post has been edited by everclear: Jul 1 2012, 10:16 PM

guess is true. if is not engineering flaw then must be user. since no large recall. guess this is random
DSG reliability in test now. hu?

anyway, 5 years warranty is good enough

The only sensible business model for car makers is to build a large base first and then work on services or the cost will prove prohibitively high. But I'm sure you already know that. Hope they're really working on the service level part like you said.

I got a question,

if i turn my lights to AUTO then turn off the engine, the lights will be off.
When I unlock my car later, the headlight will be auto turn on for about 10 secs, is this normal? Will this affecting the car's battery life?

Its normal. I do the same for my car too. Its kinda cool to see your car lights turn on automatically when you unlock your car in a dark area./low lighting.

Hi all Jetta owners,
Do you guys need to top up engine oil one in a while even before the 15000km service intervals? I also heard there are a few irritating noise come from the dorrs and also below the stearing? Is this issues normal? I will be getting mine in few days would like to inspect properly before getting it. Thanks.

You can set in MFD if want the main-headlight to switch on or not.

Of course it'll affect the battery in some ways, since it is pulling power from the battery while the engine is not started.
Same as listening to radio/CD when the engine is turned off.

If not yet fall below 'Low', just leave it till next service. Unless you do long highway run, then top-up to middle.
Some choose to do minor-service at 7500km. Change engine oil.

Don't know if this has been discussed, but about the new software update for all 1.4 TSI VWs:

I've heard the rumors about this update reducing the car's power output, so I asked the service agent at Wearnes Sg Besi. According to him, it's true - the torque is reduced in an effort to improve reliability, although "you won't feel the difference".

Still kinda sucks that an update ends up giving you a weaker car.