Mechanical Keyboard Club is v4 Now! Keep On Rolling!
Special Thanks and Credits To Moogle Stilzkin for Creating The Mechanical Keyboard Club.

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For Distributor Information, Please head to my second post at below.

Anyone that wished to learn about Mechanical Keyboard can head over to The Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard Guide
Or you can read the Switch Information at Below as well.

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Note : All Credits(Everything Including Picture) In This Part Belongs To List Of Users On Below
Credit:
Original Guide Created by Manyak on OCN
Frequent Update on Original Guide by Tator Tot on OCN
Alps Section thanks to ch_123 on OCN
Pictures of Switches in action are thanks to Lethal Squirrel on Geekhack
Pictures of Keycaps thanks to Ripster on OCN & Geekhack
Source : http://www.overclock.net/keyboards/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html

Some of you guys might interested to know what's the difference between a membrane keyboard and a mechanical keyboard, well, the most important part that is easily noticeable would be the key switch. I'll provide some Image for better explanation, since they are better and easier to understand.

Membrane Keyboard Switches(Membrane Switches are not Mechanical Switch)
Source : Taken From Wikipedia
Mostly Consist of 2 Types, One Rubber Dome And the other Scissor Switch.
Dome-switch

_{Dome switch keyboards are a hybrid of flat-panel membrane and mechanical keyboards. They bring two circuit board traces together under a rubber or silicone keypad using either metal "dome" switches or polyester formed domes. The metal dome switches are formed pieces of stainless steel that, when compressed, give the user a crisp, positive tactile feedback. These metal types of dome switches are very common, are usually reliable to over 5 million cycles, and can be plated in either nickel, silver or gold. The rubber dome switches, most commonly referred to as polydomes, are formed polyester domes where the inside bubble is coated in graphite. While polydomes are typically cheaper than metal domes, they lack the crisp snap of the metal domes, and usually have a lower life specification. Polydomes are considered very quiet, but purists tend to find them "mushy" because the collapsing dome does not provide as much positive response as metal domes. For either metal or polydomes, when a key is pressed, it collapses the dome, which connects the two circuit traces and completes the connection to enter the character. The pattern on the PC board is often gold-plated.}

Dome-switch in Action

_{Both are common switch technologies used in mass market keyboards today. This type of switch technology happens to be most commonly used in handheld controllers, mobile phones, automotive, consumer electronics and medical devices. Dome switch keyboards are also called direct-switch keyboards.}

Scissor-switch

_{A special case of the computer keyboard dome-switch is the scissor-switch. The keys are attached to the keyboard via two plastic pieces that interlock in a "scissor"-like fashion, and snap to the keyboard and the key. It still uses rubber domes, but a special plastic 'scissors' mechanism links the keycap to a plunger that depresses the rubber dome with a much shorter travel than the typical rubber dome keyboard. Typically scissor-switch keyboards also employ 3-layer membranes as the electrical component of the switch. These stabilizing scissor-like devices extend the lifespan of the membrane to as much as 10 million keystrokes. They also usually have a shorter total key travel distance (2 mm instead of 3.5 – 4 mm for standard dome-switch keyswitches). This type of keyswitch is often found on the built-in keyboards on laptops and keyboards marketed as 'low-profile'. These keyboards are generally quiet and the keys require little force to press.}

Scissor-switch in Action

_{Scissor-switch keyboards are typically slightly more expensive. They are harder to clean (due to the limited movement of the keys and their multiple attachment points) but also less likely to get debris in them as the gaps between the keys are often less (as there is no need for extra room to allow for the 'wiggle' in the key as you would find on a membrane keyboard).}

Mechanical Keyboard Switches(All below are Mechanical Keyboard Switch)
Introduction - A Switch is Not "Just a Switch"

<sub>Many people ask for recommendations about switches without knowing exactly what they are looking for, but instead only with an idea of what their needs are. Fortunately, this is not always a problem because most mechanical switches will always feel nicer than rubber domes. However, the final choice is very important because a switch is not just a switch; it is the heart of what makes your keyboard have its feel and your personal tastes can make or break a keyboard for your uses. If you don't like the switch when you type on it, most likely, you won't ever like the keyboard.

Switches are generally rated by force using the weight measurement of Grams (g). Although force is more accurately described using Centinewtons (cN) However, 1g of weight applies about 1cN of downward force, so we can use "55g" when describing a 55cN-rated switch because that is sometimes easier to understand. For this fact; we'll use Grams as a measurement of force; though either term is correct.</sub>

Cherry MX Black Switches

Type: Linear Switch
Link: Datasheet
Tactile: No
Clicky: No
Actuation Force: 60g (40g-80g overall) (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 2mm to actuation, 4mm to bottom

_{Cherry MX-Black switches are linear (non-tactile) switches, these are considered one of the best switch types for gaming. When gaming, having a tactile bump does absolutely nothing because you're going to be bottoming out anyway. So these give you a very smooth feel. The actuation and release points are at the exact same position as well. So games that require a lot of double tapping become easier than on any other keyswitch. However, most people don't enjoy typing on them that much do in part, to their linear nature.
If you're a person who tends to hit a wrong key every so often while gaming, these will be beneficial in that the high actuation force will help prevent many of those accidental presses.}

Cherry MX Brown Switches

Type: Tactile Switch
Link: DataSheet
Tactile: Yes
Clicky: No
Actuation Force: 45g (55g Peak Force) (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 2mm to actuation, 4mm to bottom

<sub>Cherry MX Brown switches are considered a middle ground between typing and "gaming" switches. They have a light, tactile feel half way through the key press that lets you know the switch has activated. This gives you an indication of what you can release the switch. The switch is considered a middle ground because the reset point & actuation point are close enough together than you can "float" at that point, enabling you to double tap faster.

As a note: this switch actually has a peak force of 55G, it is 45G at the point of actuation. This is due to the design of the Cherry switch itself.</sub>

Cherry MX Blue Switches

Type: Tactile & Clicky Switch
Link: DataSheet
Tactile: Yes, precise
Clicky: Yes
Actuation Force: 50g (60g Peak Force) (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 2mm to actuation, 4mm to bottom

<sub>Cherry MX Blue switches are the best cherry switch for typing. The tactile bump can easily be felt, and the resistance is similar to your average keyboard.

Although many people find them just fine for gaming, some don't like the fact that the release point is above the actuation point. This can cause some trouble with double-tapping. This is usually the case with someone who has experienced other mechanical switches before hand.

As a note: this switch actually has a peak force of 60g, it is 50g at the point of actuation. This is due to the design of the Cherry switch itself.</sub>

Cherry MX Clear Switches

Type: Tactile Switch
Link: DataSheet
Tactile: Yes
Clicky: No
Actuation Force: 55g (65G peak force) (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 2mm to actuation, 4mm to bottom

<sub>Cherry MX Clear switches have often been called "stiffer browns" though some users note that they have more of a tactile feel than browns do. This really can be a subjective topic, though this is another switch that could be considered "ballanced." The force required is comparable to most rubber dome keyboards, with a nice tactile feedback to tell you the key has actuated. These switches are harder to find on keyboards.

As a note: this switch actually has a peak force of 65g, it is 55g at the point of actuation. This is due to the design of the Cherry switch itself.</sub>

Cherry MX Red Switches

Type: Linear Switch
Link: DataSheet
Tactile: No
Clicky: No
Actuation Force: 45g (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 2mm to actuation, 4mm to bottom

_{Cherry MX-Red's are another switch that can be considered a "gaming" switch. It's essentially a lighter version of the MX Black, requiring less force to actuate. Most people do not find this switch that good for typing or gaming because it is so light. This switch is hard to find; and was reported as obsolete. Though some board makers still use it for Special Edition keyboards.}

Buckling Spring Keyswitches

Type: Tactile & Clicky Mechanical Switch
Link: Patent
Tactile: Yes, very precise
Clicky: Yes, loud
Actuation Force: 65g-70g (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 2.3mm to actuation, 3.7mm to bottom

_{Buckling springs are pretty straightforward once you see them in action. After pushing the key down a certain distance the spring buckles under pressure, causing the hammer at the bottom to hit a membrane sheet and create an electrical contact. The buckling of the spring also provides tactile feedback and a satisfying click as it hits the shaft wall. And you might also notice through the force diagrams that this is the only mechanical switch where the tactile and audible feedback correspond to the exact moment the switch actuates.}

Black Alps

Type: Tactile Mechanical Switch
Tactile: Yes
Clicky: No
Actuation Force: Simplified 60g, Complicated 70g (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 3.5mm

<sub>Black Alps are one of the two most common Alps switch types. Many people do not like these switches due to the fact that they are stiff, bottom out hard, and tend to develop friction in the travel as they wear. Nonetheless, they are an improvement over most rubber dome keyboards.

There are two different types of Black Alps switch - an older type known as the "Complicated" due to the large number of parts in the switch, and a newer type known as the "Simplified", which was manufactured by Alps and some other companies. Complicated switches are common in many older keyboards, particularly the Dell AT101W, which is a very common mechanical keyboard from the 1990s.

The most well known Simplified Black switch is made by a company called Fukka, and was used in the ABS M1. The Fukka switch has less resistance, but many claim that it provides less solid tactility than the complicated switch.</sub>

White Alps

Type: Clicky & Tactile Mechanical Switch
Tactile: Yes
Clicky: Yes
Actuation Force: 60g-70g (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 3.5mm

<sub>White Alps are one of the most most common Alps switch types. These are far more popular than the Black switches due to more pronounced tactility, and the lower force requirements of some versions. Like the Black Alps, White Alps are much easier to bottom out on compared with other mechanical keyswitch designs.

As with the Black switch. there are Complicated and Simplified White switches. The two most popular Simplified White switches are the Fukka and the XM. The XM is almost universally considered to be a terrible switch, it was used on some older Filco Zero models, and some vintage keyboards. The Fukka switch is quite popular, and some people prefer them over the Complicated switch. It is used on some current production Alps keyboards such as current production Filco Zeros, Matias keyboards and some others. Complicated White switches were used on some well made keyboards from the 90s such as the Northgate and Focus keyboards.

There are also a variety of White Alps-like switches of varying quality. Some, like the SMK Monterey, are considered very pleasant to type on..</sub>

Topre Key Switches

Type: Tactile Capacitive Switch
Link: Patent
Tactile: Yes
Clicky: No
Actuation Force: 30g, 35g, 45g, 55g depending on model (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 4mm

<sub>Topre switches are somewhat of a hybrid switch, and are capacitive by nature. The Topre mechanism uses a spring underneath a rubber dome, and the depression of the spring causes a change in capacitance between the underlying capacitor pads. With this change in capacitance; the switch activates.

Topre Switches are considered some of the finest switches available, as they offer a very enjoyable typing experience with a quieter experience compared to a Cherry MX, Alps, or Buckling Spring switch. The reason is Topre switches have the smoothest force gradient even compared to Linear switches like MX-Reds and MX-Blacks.</sub>

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List Lowyat mechanical keyboard users:(listed by name followed by what keyboard brand/model they have) Credits To Moogle Stiltzkin For Creating the List.
Note : Users that wanted to have their name and keyboard added to the list, please pm me.

ABS

1. OCN_fssbzz - ABS M1 (black ALPS)

ACER

1. Cyclonechuah - ACER 6311-HU (ALPS switch)

Cherry

1. THEswordmaster - Cherry G80-3494 Lycus-2 Black (Cherry mx Red)
2. OCN_fssbzz - Cherry G80-3494 Lycus-2 (Cherry mx Red)
3. Squarebox - Cherry G80-3494 Lycus-2 (Cherry mx Red with White Rice's geekhack custom made doubleshot abs 108 key cap set installed )
4. Squarebox - Cherry G80-3494 (Cherry Mx Red)
5. Squarebox - Cherry G80-1950 (Cherry Mx Brown)
6. Squarebox - Cherry G80-8113 (Cherry Mx Clear/white)
7. Squarebox - Cherry G80-8113 (Cherry Mx Clear/white)
8. Squarebox - Cherry G80-11900 (Cherry Mx Black)
9. Squarebox - Cherry G80-11900 Custom Mod (Cherry Mx Brown, Blue, Black, Red)
10. Moogle Stiltzkin - Cherry G80-1295 HAU NKRO (Cherry mx black, very rare vintage keyboard)

Das

1. alvin8866 - Das Ultimate
2. OCN_fssbzz - DAS Silent Model S
3. SSJBen - Das Model S Professional
4. ganstream1 - Das Model S Professional

Deck Legend

Ducky

1. Moogle Stiltzkin - Ducky DK-9008 laser etched PBT keycaps (Cherry Mx brown)
2. Moogle Stiltzkin - Ducky DK-9008 Tiger Limited Edition (Cherry mx Brown, with a Cherry mx Clear spacebar)
3. Cyclonechuah - Ducky DK-9008 Black On Black silkscreen abs keycaps (Cherry MX Black)
4. OCN_fssbzz - Ducky DK-1087 (Cherry Mx brown)
5. OCN_fssbzz - Ducky DK-9008 Special Edition Mix (black,blue,brown Cherry mx switches)
6. cusx - Ducky DK-9008 (Cherry Mx brown)
7. micdy - Ducky DK-9008 PBT laser etched key caps (Mixed black, blue and brown Cherry Mx switches)
8. Squarebox - Ducky DK-9008 abs black on black (Cherry Mx blue)
9. Sky.Live - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx brown )
10. Kepala Botak - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx brown With PBT Keycaps )
11. Xcen - Ducky DK-9008 (Cherry MX Blue with ABS blank caps.)
12. VampHexia - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx brown )
13. ravewar - Ducky DK-1008L ( Cherry Mx brown )
14. rockccf - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx blue )
15. angelofro - Ducky DK-9008 Tiger Limited Edition (Cherry mx Black)
16. skincladalien - Ducky DK-1008 ( Cherry Mx Brown )
17. kaiserreich - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx Brown with ABS Blanks )
18. larnelle - Ducky DK-9000 ( Cherry Mx Brown )
19. westley0214 - Ducky DK-1008 ( Cherry Mx brown )
20. seichirosano - Ducky DK-9000 ( Cherry Mx brown )
21. storm88 - Ducky DK-1008 R2 ( Cherry Mx blue )
22. guess19 - Ducky DK-9008S Shine ( Cherry Mx blue )
23. unohoo22 - Ducky DK-9008S Shine ( Cherry Mx brown )
24. Hyde`fK - Ducky DK-9008S Shine ( Cherry Mx brown )
25. EON - Ducky DK-9008 G2 ( Cherry Mx Brown )
26. Mr.Lonely - Ducky DK-9008S Shine ( Cherry Mx brown )
27. Vannus - Ducky DK-9008S Shine ( Cherry Mx red )
28. heavyarm - Ducky DK-9008S Shine ( Cherry Mx brown )

Filco

1. alvin8866 - Filco Majestouch (Cherry Mx blue, with blank keys)
2. Squarebox - Filco Majestouch "Otaku" (Cherry Mx Brown)
3. Squarebox - Filco 2 Majestouch Tenkeyless (Cherry Mx Brown)
4. willaw - Filco Zero (Fukkas switches)
5. willaw - Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless (Cherry Mx Brown)
6. Evo Fantasy - Filco Majestouch non-nkro (Cherry MX Brown)
7. lew999999 - Filco Majestouch NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
8. zandara - Filco Majestouch NKRO (Cherry MX Brown)
9. BlueBerry~ - Filco Majestouch Linear R Limited Edition (Cherry MX Red)
10. BlueBerry~ - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
11. Slythape - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
12. kEazYc - Filco Majestouch AI FKBN104M-AI Blue (Cherry MX Brown)
13. Slythape - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Brown)
14. paradis3lost - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
15. Volvagia356 - Filco Majestouch Ninja (Cherry MX Brown)
16. eichi-sama - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Brown)
17. storm88 - Filco Majestouch NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
18. kianweic - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Brown)
19. halllo81 - Filco Majestouch 2 Camouflage Edition (Cherry MX Brown)
20. SheepMekk - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
21. 3010517 - Filco Majestouch Ninja ( Cherry MX Brown )
22. 3010517 - Filco Majestouch 2 Camouflage Edition (Cherry MX Blue)
23. avengers88 - Filco Majestouch 2 Camouflage Edition (Cherry MX Brown)
24. Manticore - Filco Majestouch Linear R Limited Edition (Cherry MX Red)
25. CyntrixTech - Filco Majestouch Ninja ( Cherry MX Brown )

Gigabyte

1. Ic3pRInc3sSsIcA - GK-K8000 (Cherry Mx black)

HHKB

1. alvin8866 - Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2 (HHKB)
2. PeaceCraft1989 - Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2 (HHKB)
3. [Top-Gun] - HHKB

IBM

1. willaw - IBM Model M (1988) (Buckling springs)
2. Kaiserreich - IBM Model M 59G7980 'Lexmark' (1993) (Buckling spring)
3. epiguru - IBM Model M Space Saving (1391472, 1991 84-key Bolt-modded) (Buckling springs)
4. epiguru - IBM Model M (1391401, 1987 white label) (Buckling springs)

IONE (Sub brand XArmor)

1. snipaboy - IONE Scorpius M10
2. ooiwbng - XArmor XARMOR U9BL-s (Cherry MX Brown)

Leopold

1. Cyclonechuah - Leopold FC200R Tenkeyless
2. Cyclonechuah - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
3. zandara - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
4. Semisweet - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
5. Semisweet - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown) (not copy paste error)
6. jinhan108 - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
7. Sky.Live - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
8. xenodon - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
9. xenodon - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
10. SkYY - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
11. opalotion - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
12. Squarebox - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
13. boonykun - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
14. skye - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
15. angelofro - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
16. z3r0h - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
17. e1e7en - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
18. jian5481 - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
19. hitman66 - Leopold FC500RC/EB (Cherry MX Blue)
20. RangerKarl - Leopold FC500RL/EB (Cherry MX Black)
21. FlakCannon - Leopold FC500RC/EB (Cherry MX Blue)
22. Heav3nCl0ud - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
23. n3wb13 - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
24. lucidlts - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
25. yimingwureze - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
26. Raki - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
27. mikaelr - Leopold FC500RL/EB (Cherry MX Black)
28. Szzz - Leopold FC500R/KB (Cherry MX Brown / Korean Layout)
29. 3010517 - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
30. KilJim - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
31. Hoshiyuu - Leopold FC500RL/EB (Cherry MX Black)
32. wilsongunawan - Leopold FC500RC/EB (Cherry MX Blue)

Noppoo

1. lucidlts - Noppoo Choc Pro 2
2. willaw - Noppoo Choc Mini (Cherry MX Blue)
3. willaw - Noppoo Choc Mini (Cherry MX Brown)
4. willaw - Noppoo Choc Mini (Cherry MX Black)
5. Squarebox - Noppoo Choc Mini (Cherry MX Brown)

Mionix

1. Squarebox - Mionix Zibal 60 (Cherry MX Black)

PLU

1. lucidlts - PLU ML-G2000
2. lucidlts - PLU ML-G3000 NKRO Edition (Cherry MX Brown)
3. mikaelr - PLU ML-G2000 (Cherry MX Brown)
4. low yat 82 - PLU ML-87

PLUM

1. lucidlts - PLUM MX104M (Cherry MX Red)

Razer

1. sai86 - Black Widow Expert (Cherry Mx blue)
2. blacktrix - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
3. phantomash - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
4. raynmay - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
5. boiboi95 - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
6. BlueBerry~ - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue) Sold
7. zandara - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
8. davidlian - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
9. axn992 - Black Widow Expert (Cherry Mx blue)
10. Mr.Botz - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
11. j.sun - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
12. eichi-sama - Black Widow Expert (Cherry Mx blue)
13. affirmative90 - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)

Rosewill

1. OCN_fssbzz - Rosewill RK9000

Steel Series

1. BlueBerry~ - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
2. AlexLai - SteelSeries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
3. N1ck - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
4. shawnlut - SteelSeries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
5. victor2212 - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
6. warlove3 - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
7. aegis` - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
8. Calvin Seak - SteelSeries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
9. jay - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
10. Cyclonechuah - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
11. StratOS - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
12. OCN_fssbzz - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
13. lucidlts - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
14. lucidlts - Steelseries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
15. Squarebox - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
16. angelofro - Steelseries 6Gv2 Modded (Cherry Mx black + Brown + Clear + Red)
17. rockccf - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
18. FullMetalBoy - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
19. alexander_romanov - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
20. vincent5195 - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
21. kaysa - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
22. heavyarm - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)

Topre

1. kianweic - Topre Realforce 103U (Black)
2. Cyclonechuah - Topre Realforce 103U (Black)

Unicomp

1. willaw - Unicomp SpaceSaver

ZOWIE

1. BlueBerry~ - ZOWIE CELERITAS (Cherry MX Brown) Sold
   [s]andrewcsh - ZOWIE CELERITAS (Cherry MX Brown)

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Feb 15 2012, 06:18 AM

Mechanical Keyboard Distributor Information

Ducky
Zeon Powertech Marketing Sdn Bhd
Tel: +6019-217 2618
Fax: +603-957 2269
Website : http://www.zeon.net.my
E-mail: info@zeon.net.my
Address:
1093 Sk 5 Jalan Kuyoh,
Seri Kembangan,
43300 Selangor Malaysia.

Filco
Inter-Asia Technology Sdn Bhd
Tel: 03-7880 4001  / 03-7880 4002
Fax: 03-7880 9811
Website : http://www.inter-asia.com.my/
E-mail: info@inter-asia.com.my
Address:
16, Jalan PJU 3/47
Sunway Damansara,
47810 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor.

Leopold
Leopold MY Sdn Bhd
Tel: +6019-530 2920
Fax: N/A
Website : http://www.leopold.com.my (under construction)
E-mail: info@leopold.com.my
Address:
153, Simpang Road,
34000 Taiping,
Perak.

Razer
Ban Leong Technologies Sdn Bhd
Tel: 03-7956 6300
Fax: N/A
Website : http://www.banleong.com.my
E-mail: support@banleong.com.my
Address:
Ban Leong Technologies Sdn Bhd
Lot 1.02, Level 3, Wisma Academy
Jalan 19/1, 46300 Petaling Jaya

Steelseries
PLAY Interactive Sdn Bhd
Tel: 03-7874 3877
Fax: 03-7874 5877
Website : http://www.playinteractive.com.my/
E-mail: josephine@playinteractive.com.my
Address:
No. 222, Block A3,
Leisure Commerce Square,
No.9, Jalan PJS 8/9,
46150 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.

Topre Realforce
Leopold MY Sdn Bhd
Tel: +6019-530 2920
Fax: N/A
Website : http://www.leopold.com.my (under construction)
E-mail: info@leopold.com.my
Address:
153, Simpang Road,
34000 Taiping,
Perak.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Nov 7 2011, 02:55 PM

4th post! woot!

waiting for CNY money now....spent too much on PC this year.

DAC and a Ducky..hehe wait for me

This thread is mainly for discussion. Anything off topic please use the PM box then. This is not the first time this thing have happen. Please refrain from doing so. Even if you want to post, post something constructive

This post has been edited by Lacus: Nov 4 2011, 06:17 PM

Let the worshiping continue! I'm saving up for a tenkeyless blue now

LOLed for the sudden strictness.
anyways, still no sign of ducky 1008XM? since it's the cheapest ALPS board available out there ( correct me if i'm wrong), i'm sure it's worth for a try

It's not sudden. It's always been like this for ages. Rules and regulation are meant to be followed anyway. No need to go so hyper each time new version is open

anyway, thanks lacus for clearing the 2nd post, i was kinda shocked with how fast the reply are, and i'm too late post a 2nd post for reserving for distributor information.

Btw, back to topic. anyone interested in fullset doubleshot printed keycaps? geekhack deadline is at the end of this month. xD

I pray on god that the price will drop to 40 usd like round 3, and that would be so awesome.

thanks for reminding. Just got the 4th continuous discussion in a short period of time, quite excited of what will be coming next.

@cyclone
too bad i'm all out of cash. also, i've noticed that not all shift,space bar has the same distance between the main insert and stabilizer insert. why can't they standardize it anyway?

This post has been edited by lucidlts: Nov 4 2011, 07:01 PM

i believe Shift has already been standardize shift key, like Filco, Leopold, Ducky, SS, Razer. Except if it's following different layout.

For Leopold Spacebar that's have the issue with main and stabilizer insert it is because they are following the Cherry's Recommended Distance. Althou i don't know why Cherry does not standardize all the following.

Maybe it has to do with Cherry Keyboard, as you can see Cherry Keyboard has alot of versions and even layout and keycap distances, which makes me think this is one of the reason why they can't standardize. Since it has to do with their molding equipment, changing it will cost too much money.

that's strange
the shift of my choc pro doesn't fit with others.
btw, i've saw a video related to the key stuck on BWU. the user just sand off the edge of the key cap which causes the sticking keys issue. LOL

do you mind take a picture of your choc pro ? i didn't own them, so i do interested to know the distance from main stem and stablizer.

Do you guys know of any people in Malaysia distributing some Noppoo Choc Mini? I've been dying to get my hands on one of those T_T

Just a Taobao away, isn't?
I believe Taobao will provide a better price and the shipping will be reasonable/cheap as Chc Mini is small(thus lighter).

Lol the problem is, I can't read frickin chinese T_T Maybe i'll try to get one of my friends to purchase it for me.

You can just ask us here to help, can't you?
Simply go taobao search for the item then quote it here b4 you proceed to the agent. We are willing to assist you.

i believe you can pm lucidlts for this matter.

Item 1 RM 20

Item 2 RM 17

Item 3 RM 13

Minimum Order 5 Unit per size (item 1 & 2 can mix & match since share identical size)

This post has been edited by bai1101: Nov 4 2011, 08:52 PM

u can find me anytime. been getting lotsa stuff from taobao ever since i'm into this

count me in for one

Don't rush. Its a very nice price, but also need to see what comes out of this

Maybe get a sample made out first. I'm willing to be the lab rat

This post has been edited by kaiserreich: Nov 4 2011, 09:17 PM

How much is the taobao price + shipping to Malaysia?
got both of mine in Indonesia tho'

count me in for the full sized ( item 1 )

Guy be patient 1st ! i try ask for 1 sample 1st before proceed to order in Qty

I have few of their acrylic product what i can tell don't expect smooth edge from this price la, u need to used sand paper to smooth it up ><

@cyclone
thx for adding my name in to the mech user list =D

don't worry, i'm quite good with sand paper.

Alright, let's not get over excited about these. Plus, posting one liners might get this thread more heat from the mods. We don't want that to happen.

With prices like this, definitely cannot expect the kind a quality that we see on the pictures that I grabbed from bird-electron website. The people that made those good looking keyboard roofs.

Guys, are those arcylic roofs really that good? I saw that the sides are open and wouldnt that still allows dusts to enter???
Plus, if it is just placed on the keyboard with it's sides on the keyboard... even with smooth edges, wouldnt it slide around and sometimes scratches your keyboard unless you put rubber feet on them?

Can someone provide evidence that can convince me that this is better than the stock cover from Filco and Leopold...

It's more of a personal taste kinda thing.
Rubber feet is needed for sure.
Dust still can get in, but it needs some 'cornering' to do that. The stock FILCO ones should go well what came with it.
I'm putting these on my Realforce and/or Poker since they did not come with dust covers.

Oh.... now i know....
Well, it is useful especially when your keyboard dont come with one cover of it's own.

For Ducky XM series, we are ordering them and come in, and this time they are swimming ducky. So expect will be little late

Storm, where is your Ducky sales thread???
Last time heard you mentioned about the Ducky in SHINING RED!!!!
Can check for reference?

Hi there.
For second batch onwards, we are not going to sell by ourselves anymore. You had to get the actual product from our dealers.
For Ducky SHINING, in Red LED expect to be Fly-ing in by next Thursday.

Will post up picture when it's here

This post has been edited by storm88: Nov 5 2011, 12:24 AM

Is it Ducky Shine 9008 ? Got cherry brown switches? price?

Yea. Its 9008 SHINE.
Fyi, available in MX BROWN, BLUE, n RED.

Pricing wise, each dealer might quote different price. MSRP 429

This post has been edited by storm88: Nov 5 2011, 09:54 AM

Oh... so meaning Storm you become just distributor???

We always been

I just placed order for the Doubleshot Round 4, looking forward for the keycaps!, but i order the retro thou, not dark/orange.

Damn bro >.< So tempted to get one, not sure if it's worth getting tho, but still...

well it helps to reduce ur kb's appetite in eating dust i think? lol

Any good recomendation on keyboard that have backlight? Usage is normally for moderate gaming and typing. The cheaper the better (¬.¬͡)

don't expect cheap from mecha KB

Cheapest with light is 4xx and above.... if don't have this budget dont think abt light >< Even regular one cost around 3xx for local.

there is one from noppoo, cost around 380 including shipping to Malaysia.
http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=974745...546157450&prc=1

LOL, you guys forget the ''Razer BW''? It should be the cheapest BL Mech KB around.

And yes, indeed it is ''cheap''...

I highly suggest that you get the Ducky 9008 Shine, it might be a tad pricey for some, but it's worth the buck.

ducky shine or noppoo would be ok. noppoo is USB NKRO btw.

Ducky Shine i think is RM400 or RM419??

or you can get the usual BlackWidow Ultimate...

ducky shine better, for the PS/2 NKRO. lol
BW can't do that

Ya, kinda interested in ducky shine 9008! Looks great but the price, I need to save a bit. Btw, y many people prefer brown key? What's the different?

It really depends on one's preference, i suggest you go and test which key you like the most.

Most people prefer brown switch because it gives you a slight bump indicating that you has press the switch.(sort of feel slightly like membrane keyboard.

THE BUMP!

Blue clicky a bit...but its nice also...if you want to use in the office, make sure you use Blue....The sound will make people know you are working eventhou you are chatting or play FB...

Black and reds sounds rumble "gede gede gede"..... like you at battlefield..

after using red switches can't help but feel a bit strange going to brown switches...

On a separate note, still need 9 more sets for Dark/Orange set in the GeekHack doubleshots round 4!

well, i have to agree after using red, going back brown is kind of strange feeling. but now i'm used to Realforce Topre switch now. typing is getting more and more comfortable as time goes.

i jump for Retro Stardard kit set thou. =X what you ordered?

i ordered this.
RETRO/STANDARD
RETRO/RGBY
RETRO/SPACE
RETRO/SPACELEO
RETRO/LOTUS/RED
NOIR/AWESOMEFUN/BLACK/YELLOW
CHERRYREDESC
VIM
LOD

For you all that didn't know, Realforce 10th anniversary comes with Topre limited keychains. only in malaysia thou. =/ , as i clarify again, Topre does not reproduce them anymore, they can't be find anywhere else, i only manage to get 5 of them to be included with Topre. Topre said there's no more.


This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Nov 6 2011, 04:45 PM

Am torn between Dark/Orange and the Retro set but not too keen on the blue lettering. Am looking for a decent set of keycaps to put into my Majestouch Multicam, though have a set of rebel red alert red on white doubleshots coming in through deskthority.

do want
too bad they don't sell that thing separately

Look around in Taobao, got a few seller selling them.

The Rebel Red Alert keycaps looks quite sexy and omg 170 keycaps!? still available?

The keychains was only produce in solely for Event Souvenir or something like that, which is not for sale.

Well, i did found one seller, around 200 CNY Renminbi. Do conversion to RM which is /2, i guess you should know how much it is. i see the price, i

Hide them from your sale threads and tada, instant 500bucks(RM) in your pocket, PROFIT?

hey fellas, I'm thinking of picking up a mech keyboard for my daily use. Been stalking this thread for couple of times.

Last time I posted a question on "Blackwidow Ultimate, why the hating/ignore?" I heard the coming stealth edition is going to be cherry brown, should I get it?

Or are they any Zarmor mech keyboard users around here?

The built quality of Razer BWU is very sucks and though sometimes even causing problems. Though, it will be like tossing a coin, some ppl got and some ppl pass(though i cant deny that some of the ppl simply too blinded by the bling bling of razer, neglecting those issues).

Razer BW Stealth come with brown and matte surface, thus possibly less 2 problem than normal razer(blue switch on BW is having inconsistent quality, brown may face those problem less).

BTW, afaik razer don't sell Stealth edition through distributor(at least at the moment), thus it is hard to get them in Malaysia if you dont import.

Zarmor? I think you mean Xarmor. Some ppl say the keyboard is fine and some say it sucks(mostly on keycaps issue)

This post has been edited by Human10: Nov 7 2011, 02:34 AM

I just helped my friend to send his BWU to warranty after 1 week of usage due to one of the key's LED decided to give up, what say you?

Surprisingly Razer (or should i say Ban Leong) decided to change a new one straight away for him, less than a day or 2, i will let you think whatever you want, but if for me, i have something in my mind already. Not so good to say it out tho.

This post has been edited by kEazYc: Nov 7 2011, 02:35 AM

Thanks for the headsup. And yeah it's Zarmor.


I guess some of the BWU are not QC properly
Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll just have to look for alternative. Will stick with my G110 atm.

ducky shine or noppoo choc pro LED backlit version will do

Try different switches and see which one fits you.

You can check with Cyclonechuah for Topre switches.

Ducky shine or filco?

The main difference that "I" (based on personal experience) between those two is that Ducky has "higher" keys compared to Filco and Filco is heavier than Ducky lol

can we check for this imperfection when we buy?

It's not an imperfection, it's just the way it's manufactured o.O

There's always Leopold besides Ducky and Filco.

If you're buying from a local shop, it is possible that you could open the box infront of them, and press all the keys and check keyboard layout and line-out. (Press one per one key to make sure it it doesn't comflict with other key)

Better safe than sorry.

i always check each key before i send out, so basically, i violated every keyboard's virginity before sending out. i apologize to every Leopold keyboard owner

i don't agree with this.

If Imperfection is covered by "This is the way it's manufactured"

Then the product that has better overall than the imperfection means? Imperfection is still a flaw which can not be fix by saying "This is the way it's manufactured"

As Customers, what if you receive a badly built product, it has flaws, but manufacturer replies you with "Can't do anything, It's just the way it's manufactured"
will you be mad if you compare to other customer product which does not has the same flaws as you have?

Customer that purchase the product has the right to make a complaint so we could improve based on complaint details.

Saying "This is the way it's manufactured" is irresponsible, as it sounded like "you just have to face it, this flaw is suppose to happen in manufacturing process, and you couldn't do anything about it"

I'm just saying my point, no offense. Customer should know it's rights, If Flaws has been noticed, improvement should made to fix that matter.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Nov 7 2011, 02:12 PM

Well said well said, actually i was refering to kanabalize's assumption that the difference in key height between Ducky and Filco being an imperfection. I was just merely stating that the difference in height between the two brands is not a manufacturing flaw lol

That's not imperfection, it's just different keycap family or different design.

Keycap Family : http://keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php

Yeah that was what i was trying to point out >.< that the height difference is not an imperfection.

Which is the best backlit model? Leopold has no backlit if im not mistaken? Looking at mx brown switches.

Yup, Leopold no backlit model. Though, it is among the best choice if you are not despo for BL.

Can't tell which is best/worst as there isn't a guideline to rank/folo.

Though, for quality wise, we suggest you go for those well-known brand/OEM(manufacturers).
Mionix seems appealing as it's OEM is Costar(same as Filco)
Xarmor is iOne which having some bad records but some of their keyboards also quite well-made, thus cant comment much.
Razer BWU, rumor to be manufactured by iOne too(though Squarebox disagree and suggest may be Costar instead) and it is having serious QC problems. An imperfect BWU will be an eyesore to you if you are the picky type.
Deck, more to the premium/vintage brand which you pay premium price for premium quality but normal specs.
Ducky and Noppoo, China/Taiwan brand, quite experienced brands in manufacture Mech KB, but some say they also having some QC problems. Though, they offering more features such as NKRO most others above.

This post has been edited by Human10: Nov 7 2011, 03:59 PM

since you including Filco into your list of options. i figure out you might consider non-backlit keyboard. since from what i do know, Filco does not have backlit keyboard as well. So i decided to mention Leopold.

If Backlit is important to you, there's Ducky SHINE, or Mionix Zibal 60, but i can't confirm when will Mionix be coming to Malaysia, Rumour say it's coming.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Nov 7 2011, 09:14 PM

Personally, I find the height of Ducky is a major design flaw. It make reduces the overall typing experience.
Generally, the lower it is the more comfortable it will be from a ergonomic stand-point.
The lowest mechanical keyboard that I have came across are from Cherry but due to the Plate-Mounted(rage-proof) hype, Cherry keyboards didn't stand a chance but end-users are not their target from the very beginning.

This post has been edited by Squarebox: Nov 7 2011, 11:49 PM

According to speculations, the price of Cherry boards in the next 2-3 years would be around Rm150+ or so....
the sauce is from a Chinese vendor from China....

You mean the new Cherry Keyboard that is exclusive in China one? The one with ultra low profile that is almost flat out like scissor switch? The one that having Logitech G series keyboard looks?

It will be good for those that used to low profile keyboard but I afraid that pressing one key will also dragged the other keys below it. It will be hard to press them down deep enough.

P/S: Cant seems to dig out the picture of the keyboard. Most probably posted by Storm88/Cyclone, i forgot.

This post has been edited by Human10: Nov 8 2011, 12:50 AM

well, have to agree with this, i think the new Cherry keyboard G80-3800 has some serious flaw in it, 4mm switch deep and flat profile.

Btw, i gonna start my wood casing project soon. Wood that i will be going to use a "Kayu Batu" which is a heavy hardwood. some of my house wood furniture are made by my dad using "Kayu batu" which surprisingly remains in superb condition after 10+ years, and the wood color has darken over time.

This will gonna take some times. =D

Haha, thx for the model name.
Here is the picture I googled, may be too small...


I believe color isn't the main concern as long as it is uniform.
I sure the hardest part will be drilling and shaping the keycaps. HELL jobs indeed.

This post has been edited by Human10: Nov 8 2011, 01:05 AM

yes, this is what i'm worried because of wood hard nature, i'm quite worry it would CRACK during the drilling session, for Keycaps, i will postpone first, will continue to work with it after done with casing.

But i will first do some testing with cheap wood to get the measurement right as well as some experience.

Anyone can share some experience with the Cross section in the keycap that hold the stem? i'm still figuring out how to do it. since drilling that small cross section is kinda impossible/troublesome, and possibly leads to a lot of error instead.