QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 22 2024, 09:53 AM)
during covid time can withdraw account b without penalty via email. i cleared all my account b during that time.Private Retirement Fund, What the hell is that??
Private Retirement Fund, What the hell is that??
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Mar 22 2024, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 22 2024, 09:53 AM) during covid time can withdraw account b without penalty via email. i cleared all my account b during that time. Cubalagi liked this post
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Mar 22 2024, 02:37 PM
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I already pay 10 year PRS. After confirm, basically I no need to pay any more.
Any idea can I still enjoy tax relief if I purchase another PRS? |
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Mar 22 2024, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Mar 22 2024, 02:37 PM) I already pay 10 year PRS. After confirm, basically I no need to pay any more. Huh what do you mean? PRS tax relief is based on fresh fund contribution. It's based on assessment year, as long as you contribute during the assessment year, you can enjoy the relief if until they stop it.Any idea can I still enjoy tax relief if I purchase another PRS? If you put in 3k in 2022 but none in 2023, you cannot claim tax relief in 2023. |
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Mar 22 2024, 02:48 PM
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But look like it only extend till 2025?
https://www.ppa.my/prs-tax-relief/ Can recommend resh PRS that only pay 1-2 year for tax relief purpose. |
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Mar 22 2024, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Mar 22 2024, 02:48 PM) But look like it only extend till 2025? which one did you previously buy ?https://www.ppa.my/prs-tax-relief/ Can recommend resh PRS that only pay 1-2 year for tax relief purpose. i believe what you bought was deferred annuity plan by Insurance providers |
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Mar 22 2024, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Mar 22 2024, 10:34 AM) during covid time can withdraw account b without penalty via email. i cleared all my account b during that time. Yes, i think this also coincided with the EPF withdrawal scheme.Just to add. Aside from death, retirement or leaving the country, you can also withdraw without penalty for housing (building, reduce loan etc...) or health reasons. ( https://www.ppa.my/prs-and-you/prs-faq/ ) |
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Mar 22 2024, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Mar 22 2024, 02:48 PM) But look like it only extend till 2025? PRS funds has no committed to buy duration unlike deferred annuity plan that you had with Maybank Etiqa.https://www.ppa.my/prs-tax-relief/ Can recommend resh PRS that only pay 1-2 year for tax relief purpose. PRS funds can be bought and stopped to buy any time you like unlike deferred annuity plan that you had with Maybank Etiqa. If you feel like stopping you can stop without any "penalty" (like deduction of premiums for insurance coverage provided and etc etc) unlike deferred annuity plan that you had with Maybank Etiqa For your "what to buy recommendation, for just 1 or 2 years," ....if you liked to place bets on best performance and returns in the next 1 or 2 yrs....try the link in post 6277 to see and judge for yourself This post has been edited by MUM: Mar 23 2024, 07:02 AM |
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Mar 23 2024, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 21 2024, 10:11 PM) i dont know you pretend stupid or Congratulations to you then. Please remember to invest more during the downturn. If you invested more than RM3k a year then i applaud you more that you have selected the right funds and have confidence investing more than the tax deduction limits.you really are like that.. u failed to follow the points in contention! if you follow you could just admit it, and said NO, you did not buy it 8 years ago You bought it only recently at high price eg...RM1.20 in 2021 case close that chart there is past 10yrs TRACK RECORD , NOT returns projected by fund house you dont trust it? takpa . i have that PRS, i keep record Dec 2016 RM0.80 i bought 2017 RM0.98 i bought 2018 RM0.95 i bought 2019 RM1.05 i skip 2020 RM1.15 i bought again 30.9.2021 RM1.26 2022 RM0.95 - RM1.00 2023 RM0.99 -RM1.04 2024 RM1.14 now you still think that is window dressing chart? a fake chart by fund house to cheat you? i give up. is like a guy who overestimated his own muscle power entered a Gym to tell others dont waste your time guys i have broken my back working out here add: If Gym is so good then why gomen must gip you RM2500 tax relief? ha ha . |
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Mar 23 2024, 02:21 PM
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my PRS all is green. how much return per year i don't know. what's important is the current percentage is quite high. even if it perform like fd its good enough for me.
the profit is not including tax deduction. with my prs + sspn deduction every year. basically the deduction covers my yearly prs. so its good enough for me. if i have to think further, i rather spend that effort on my other investments. this is part of diversification too. This post has been edited by cempedaklife: Mar 23 2024, 02:22 PM |
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Mar 23 2024, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(ky33li @ Mar 23 2024, 01:15 PM) Congratulations to you then. Please remember to invest more during the downturn. If you invested more than RM3k a year then i applaud you more that you have selected the right funds and have confidence investing more than the tax deduction limits. for me PRS is just PRS,for my tax RM3000 a year tak cukup? you want to earn more, can no need PRS lah go for properties . nett rental returns 7% - 17% capital appreciation 200-300% tak cukup risky? go for bonds 17.37% pa return i bought also. Attached thumbnail(s) Barricade liked this post
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Apr 4 2024, 06:30 PM
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Sorry if these questions are silly, a noob here.
1) The purpose of putting prs is to deduct rm3k from his income right? for example: annual income: rm50k - rm3k = rm47000 so the chargable income drop from rm50k to rm47000, so the tax percentage he need to pay drops too, correct? 2) i heard that most unit trust are losing money, is it worth it to put the money in prs beside tax reduction? Thanks everyone |
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QUOTE(putraheight @ Apr 4 2024, 06:30 PM) Sorry if these questions are silly, a noob here. 1) Yes, not deduct 3k from income, but personal tax relief for an individual, how much the relief is depending on his taxable income. At 50k, its around RM200 or so.1) The purpose of putting prs is to deduct rm3k from his income right? for example: annual income: rm50k - rm3k = rm47000 so the chargable income drop from rm50k to rm47000, so the tax percentage he need to pay drops too, correct? 2) i heard that most unit trust are losing money, is it worth it to put the money in prs beside tax reduction? Thanks everyone 2) There are conservative and there are risky funds, just do your due diligent. For example, my RoR was around 30% or so YoY but the last 2 years was pretty shitty so that took me down a few notch due to China. Switched to new fund, now its tracking around to 10% . DYDD. putraheight liked this post
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QUOTE(putraheight @ Apr 4 2024, 06:30 PM) Sorry if these questions are silly, a noob here. 1. Yes. It's not exactly deduct income but in a way it is deduct income. It's to bring down your tax bracket if possible and/or bring down taxable income.1) The purpose of putting prs is to deduct rm3k from his income right? for example: annual income: rm50k - rm3k = rm47000 so the chargable income drop from rm50k to rm47000, so the tax percentage he need to pay drops too, correct? 2) i heard that most unit trust are losing money, is it worth it to put the money in prs beside tax reduction? Thanks everyone 2. Yes that's right. Depends on what you want. If you want can match Epf return, majority sucks (fail to match EPF returns). If you want best return but you don't mind if fund sells down can only recommend you 3 funds. Choose one. Principal retire easy 2050 conventional or islamic version AIA PAM growth. putraheight liked this post
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Mar 22 2024, 02:48 PM) But look like it only extend till 2025? I don't think will end at 2025. They want to encourage Malaysians to save.. so likely will extend. https://www.ppa.my/prs-tax-relief/ Can recommend resh PRS that only pay 1-2 year for tax relief purpose. This PRS is more useful to those that dont want to learn investing themselves.. they will likely end up putting more money into it. |
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Apr 8 2024, 05:37 PM) I don't think will end at 2025. They want to encourage Malaysians to save.. so likely will extend. If until 2025, then I will just buy prs for the last time in 2025 and leave it there.This PRS is more useful to those that dont want to learn investing themselves.. they will likely end up putting more money into it. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Apr 8 2024, 08:13 PM Barricade liked this post
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Apr 8 2024, 05:37 PM) I don't think will end at 2025. They want to encourage Malaysians to save.. so likely will extend. I add more than the min 3k as I also use prs as a "strategy diversifier" for my retirement savings.This PRS is more useful to those that dont want to learn investing themselves.. they will likely end up putting more money into it. First, I have my own DIY portfolio which Im the portfolio manager. Second, I also have EPF where the manager is the government appointed one. And finally, PRS which is a private sector one. Of course, using my DIY portfolio, I try to beat the other two. However, Im open to the possibility that Im not as smart as I think I am and there could be times where these others beat me. |
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Apr 9 2024, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Apr 9 2024, 03:27 PM) I add more than the min 3k as I also use prs as a "strategy diversifier" for my retirement savings. No need put extra. Put excess to sp500 or QQQ. Both outperform EPF and PRS by miles.First, I have my own DIY portfolio which Im the portfolio manager. Second, I also have EPF where the manager is the government appointed one. And finally, PRS which is a private sector one. Of course, using my DIY portfolio, I try to beat the other two. However, Im open to the possibility that Im not as smart as I think I am and there could be times where these others beat me. Barricade liked this post
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https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/710756 Full tax exemption being mulled for emergency private retirement scheme withdrawals, says SC KUALA LUMPUR (May 8): Malaysia is considering full tax exemptions on withdrawals from private retirement scheme (PRS) funds for emergency purposes, said Securities Commission Malaysia (SC) chairman Datuk Seri Awang Adek Hussin. !@#$%^ liked this post
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QUOTE(Ultra+ @ May 8 2024, 03:26 PM) https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/710756 it's about time. doesn't make sense if u can withdraw without penalty for epf but not prs.Full tax exemption being mulled for emergency private retirement scheme withdrawals, says SC KUALA LUMPUR (May 8): Malaysia is considering full tax exemptions on withdrawals from private retirement scheme (PRS) funds for emergency purposes, said Securities Commission Malaysia (SC) chairman Datuk Seri Awang Adek Hussin. |
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