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post Dec 9 2025, 10:44 AM

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When trying to check some of the PRS funds last night, I noticed PM Prs Growth Fund & PM Prs Islamic Growth also have large overseas exposure, particularly in US tech sector. Performance for 3 and 5 years also not bad. Apart from the high sales charge, what are the downside? If buy from PPA website instead of PMO, still kena the 3% charge?
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post Dec 9 2025, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Dec 9 2025, 10:44 AM)
When trying to check some of the PRS funds last night, I noticed PM Prs Growth Fund & PM Prs Islamic Growth also have large overseas exposure, particularly in US tech sector. Performance for 3 and 5 years also not bad. Apart from the high sales charge, what are the downside? If buy from PPA website instead of PMO, still kena the 3% charge?
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Many years ago, .... read in one of the thread, ...
If you have min holdings of RM10k, ...can get their group Mutual Plus 2 insurance at lower than outside rate.

Not sure if you can get to hv it, if you buy thru PPA or if PM still hv it.
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post Dec 9 2025, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 9 2025, 11:14 AM)
Many years ago, .... read in one of the thread, ...
If you have min holdings of RM10k, ...can get their group Mutual Plus 2 insurance at lower than outside rate.

Not sure if you can get to hv it, if you buy thru PPA or if PM still hv it.
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Thanks... I wasn't interested with any of the insurance though. Have not seen or hear any claims on those insurance.
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post Dec 9 2025, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Dec 9 2025, 11:18 AM)
Thanks... I wasn't interested with any of the insurance though. Have not seen or hear any claims on those insurance.
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I think, you will still kena the 3% sc if you buy from PPA. Bcos previously I read in PM thread, ...even though you buy DIY from their PMO online platform, ...you will still kena that 3% SC for prs funds. None prs equities funds will be more %..

Just not sure of latest info about SC

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post Dec 9 2025, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 9 2025, 11:34 AM)
I think, you will still kena the 3% sc if you buy from PPA. Bcos previously I read in PM thread,  ...even though you buy DIY from their PMO online platform, ...you will still kena that 3% SC for prs funds. None prs equities funds will be more %..

Just not sure of latest info about SC
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If that's the case, have to reconsider, every year performance -3%.
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post Dec 9 2025, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Dec 9 2025, 10:44 AM)
When trying to check some of the PRS funds last night, I noticed PM Prs Growth Fund & PM Prs Islamic Growth also have large overseas exposure, particularly in US tech sector. Performance for 3 and 5 years also not bad. Apart from the high sales charge, what are the downside? If buy from PPA website instead of PMO, still kena the 3% charge?
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Have to buy using public mutual website. Service charge 3% p.a not sure about latest service charge.
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post Dec 9 2025, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Dec 9 2025, 07:43 PM)
If that's the case, have to reconsider, every year performance -3%.
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That SC (Sales Charge) is applicable only when you put in fresh fund.
No more SC for money already inside

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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Dec 9 2025, 07:43 PM)
If that's the case, have to reconsider, every year performance -3%.
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Worth it if you can get 20%p.a as that's what you get by investing in the US.
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post Dec 10 2025, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 9 2025, 07:59 PM)
Have to buy using public mutual website. Service charge 3% p.a not sure about latest service charge.
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If buy from PMO for sure kena 3% charge. I was thinking can buy directly from PPA, since during enrolment we have to choose a PRS fund to buy.
Maybe I should try once, if really get charged 3% then that's it.
QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 9 2025, 08:31 PM)
That SC (Sales Charge) is applicable only when you put in fresh fund.
No more SC for money already inside
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yeah, but every year Rm90 just to claim tax rebate.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 9 2025, 08:38 PM)
Worth it if you can get 20%p.a as that's what you get by investing in the US.
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Seeing from past performance, not reach 20%. but if can get 10% onwards after deducting 3% charge, me happy already.

Btw how much return you get roughly from Principal RetireEasy?
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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Dec 10 2025, 10:20 AM)
If buy from PMO for sure kena 3% charge. I was thinking can buy directly from PPA, since during enrolment we have to choose a PRS fund to buy.
Maybe I should try once, if really get charged 3% then that's it.

yeah, but every year Rm90 just to claim tax rebate.
Seeing from past performance, not reach 20%. but if can get 10% onwards after deducting 3% charge, me happy already.

Btw how much return you get roughly from Principal RetireEasy?
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I think so far 8-10%?
You can check it out in
https://www.fsmone.com.my/tools/fund-selector

So far manage to beat or match EPF. That is my bare minimum.

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post Dec 10 2025, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Dec 10 2025, 10:20 AM)
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yeah, but every year Rm90 just to claim tax rebate.

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If you hv already had 30k in there previously and early this year you put in 3k.
If this year the roi of the fund is 10%
You would gain ...
30k +3k X 10% = 3.3k minus 90 sc + savings from tax relief. ( higher your tax bracket, the more you will save)

So is that Rm 90 for Sales Charges, a well expenses?

If you doesn't want that 3%sc, ...try source PRS UT from other PRS providers or resellers. ...a few of them offer 0% sc instead of PRS UT funds from PM

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hi anybody has experience with withdrawing to reduce housing loan?

1. the housing loan balance statement has to be the one certified by bank officer or the e-statement will do?
2. the payment instruction details - is it supposed to be our savings account or housing loan account?

many thanks
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post Dec 11 2025, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Dec 11 2025, 08:25 AM)
hi anybody has experience with withdrawing to reduce housing loan?

1. the housing loan balance statement has to be the one certified by bank officer or the e-statement will do?
2. the payment instruction details - is it supposed to be our savings account or housing loan account?

many thanks
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I maybe wrong, but I think you posted at the wrong thread.
This is PRS thread

Anyway, for your Q1, ..If you are refering to withdrawal from kwsp, then i think, just think the statement must follow kwsp format
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/documents/20119/447...d0-bb3429a7b3c0

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/en/member/house-wit...loan-instalment

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 11 2025, 08:32 AM)
I maybe wrong, but I think you posted at the wrong thread.
This is PRS  thread

Anyway, for your Q1, ..If you are refering to withdrawal from kwsp, then i think, just think the statement must follow kwsp format
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/documents/20119/447...d0-bb3429a7b3c0

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/en/member/house-wit...loan-instalment
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thanks.

but i am indeed referring to PRS. i want to empty my prs account B. after getting the tax relief, really no other reason to keep inside.
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Dec 11 2025, 08:25 AM)
hi anybody has experience with withdrawing to reduce housing loan?

1. the housing loan balance statement has to be the one certified by bank officer or the e-statement will do?
2. the payment instruction details - is it supposed to be our savings account or housing loan account?

many thanks
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Dec 11 2025, 11:08 AM)
thanks.

but i am indeed referring to PRS. i want to empty my prs account B. after getting the tax relief, really no other reason to keep inside.
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I think you can check this out and hopefully it helps?
Guide to Complete Form for Housing Withdrawal.
https://www.ppa.my/wp-content/uploads/2022/...-Withdrawal.pdf

https://www.ppa.my/prs-and-you/prs-faq/



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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 11 2025, 11:17 AM)
I think you can check this out and hopefully it helps?
Guide to Complete Form for Housing Withdrawal.
https://www.ppa.my/wp-content/uploads/2022/...-Withdrawal.pdf

https://www.ppa.my/prs-and-you/prs-faq/
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yup. i did. was hoping can avoid making a trip to the bank with e-statement. also i believe there will be some charges for certified true copy and i have 3 service providers to redeem from sweat.gif
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Dec 11 2025, 12:00 PM)
yup. i did. was hoping can avoid making a trip to the bank with e-statement. also i believe there will be some charges for certified true copy and i have 3 service providers to redeem from  sweat.gif
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After having read that, did you notice that there seems to be different types of requirements for bank statements for the various stated category withdrawal for housing needs.




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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 11 2025, 04:56 PM)
After having read that, did you notice that there seems to be different types of requirements for bank statements for the various stated category withdrawal for housing needs.
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yup. making life difficult for everyone. when want to topup and enrol, everything can be easily done online. but when u want to withdraw, then so many requirements. same for banks.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 9 2025, 11:34 AM)
I think, you will still kena the 3% sc if you buy from PPA. Bcos previously I read in PM thread,  ...even though you buy DIY from their PMO online platform, ...you will still kena that 3% SC for prs funds. None prs equities funds will be more %..

Just not sure of latest info about SC
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If transfer in from other providers, will kena that 3% mou? now I am interested with that insurance, covers till 74 summore
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QUOTE(cklimm @ Dec 11 2025, 10:51 PM)
If transfer in from other providers, will kena that 3% mou? now I am interested with that insurance, covers till 74 summore
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I think, just think, ..if transfer also will kena bcos you need to sell your other provider UT and buy PM ut. Buying will kena 3% Sc

Unless, you can arrange with PM in advance to waive it.



 

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