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post Dec 1 2020, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Dec 1 2020, 09:58 PM)
I will only pump in RM3000 every year into PRS for tax rebate purpose.

Good to know it's been extended till 2025.
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doing the same too for another 5 years ✌
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post Dec 2 2020, 12:16 AM

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can use joint account to purchase fund on fsm right ?
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post Dec 2 2020, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(onthefly @ Dec 2 2020, 12:16 AM)
can use joint account to purchase fund on fsm right ?
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u mean joint account is bank account transfer money or FSM account?

5. Can I purchase PRS via beneficiary account?
No. PRS is only applicable to Personal Account only.

https://www.fsmone.com.my/support/frequentl...tions?faq=Funds
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post Dec 2 2020, 11:16 AM

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Has anyone of you withdraw the 1,500 for each fund house you have investment with from Account B of your PRS as permitted by the government?
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post Dec 2 2020, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Dec 2 2020, 11:16 AM)
Has anyone of you withdraw the 1,500 for each fund house you have investment with from Account B of your PRS as permitted by the government?
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no sure if can...withdraw 1.5k tax free.....then add in 1.5k fresh fund = total 3k...buy again PRS fund 3k...claim RM3k tax relief.....
if can....walao....sure untung
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post Dec 2 2020, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 2 2020, 11:37 AM)
no sure if can...withdraw 1.5k tax free.....then add in 1.5k fresh fund = total 3k...buy again PRS fund 3k...claim RM3k tax relief.....
if can....walao....sure untung
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hahah potential loophole, but sounds fantastic if this can be done ehhhhhh tongue.gif

anyway, if you put in 1.5k = tax relief for 1.5k right.

withdrawal also can claim tax meh?

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post Dec 2 2020, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Dec 2 2020, 12:12 PM)
hahah potential loophole, but sounds fantastic if this can be done ehhhhhh  tongue.gif

anyway, if you put in 1.5k = tax relief for 1.5k right.

withdrawal also can claim tax meh?
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The taken out RM 1.5k is going back to buy PRS fund with additional RM 1.5k to make up for the RM 3k for tax relief.
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post Dec 2 2020, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Dec 2 2020, 12:14 PM)
The taken out RM 1.5k is going back to buy PRS fund with additional RM 1.5k to make up for the RM 3k for tax relief.
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ohhh.... i don't see any thing that prevent one from doing such thing. highly possible if you ask me.
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post Dec 2 2020, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Dec 2 2020, 12:18 PM)
ohhh.... i don't see any thing that prevent one from doing such thing. highly possible if you ask me.
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Agreed with you.
But from I heard, the withdrawal is very troublesome as there's no e-withdrawal like EPF.
You need to deal with the respective PRS provider and submit physical original copy of the forms.
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post Dec 2 2020, 12:48 PM

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account B only have 30%, account A 70%. withdrawal can only be made on funds invested more than 1 year, ie last year.
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post Dec 2 2020, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Dec 2 2020, 11:16 AM)
Has anyone of you withdraw the 1,500 for each fund house you have investment with from Account B of your PRS as permitted by the government?
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yes i did with no penalty.
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post Dec 2 2020, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Dec 2 2020, 12:19 PM)
Agreed with you.
But from I heard, the withdrawal is very troublesome as there's no e-withdrawal like EPF.
You need to deal with the respective PRS provider and submit physical original copy of the forms.
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oh? i thought we could do via PPA website?

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account B only have 30%, account A 70%. withdrawal can only be made on funds invested more than 1 year, ie last year.
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Yes, the only dilemma is last year those funds didnt really make positive returns, so in another words, selling at a loss.

QUOTE(ky33li @ Dec 2 2020, 01:22 PM)
yes i did with no penalty.
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hmm, still thinking if I should withdraw the money and put it into elsewhere like stashaway or others.

but what is stopping me is the negative return for 2019. But also not to forget, we also do have instant profits when we claim our tax relief.

so it's kinda even out.
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post Dec 2 2020, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Dec 2 2020, 02:21 PM)
oh? i thought we could do via PPA website?
Yes, the only dilemma is last year those funds didnt really make positive returns, so in another words, selling at a loss.
hmm, still thinking if I should withdraw the money and put it into elsewhere like stashaway or others.

but what is stopping me is the negative return for 2019. But also not to forget, we also do have instant profits when we claim our tax relief.

so it's kinda even out.
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As far as I know upon reading the FAQ from PPA portal, PPA won't facilitate the withdrawal. You deal it yourself with PRS provider.

Also, I don't think there's sell or withdrawal feature at PPA portal.

This post has been edited by GrumpyNooby: Dec 2 2020, 02:31 PM
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post Dec 2 2020, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Dec 2 2020, 02:30 PM)
As far as I know upon reading the FAQ from PPA portal, PPA won't facilitate the withdrawal. You deal it yourself with PRS provider.

Also, I don't think there's sell or withdrawal feature at PPA portal.
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ok thanks for the info. i think i will withdraw from one of the 2 providers i invested in.


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post Dec 2 2020, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Dec 2 2020, 02:21 PM)
oh? i thought we could do via PPA website?
Yes, the only dilemma is last year those funds didnt really make positive returns, so in another words, selling at a loss.
hmm, still thinking if I should withdraw the money and put it into elsewhere like stashaway or others.

but what is stopping me is the negative return for 2019. But also not to forget, we also do have instant profits when we claim our tax relief.

so it's kinda even out.
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which fund u purchase?
can switch within the same fund house,... brows.gif
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post Dec 2 2020, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Dec 2 2020, 03:06 PM)
which fund u purchase?
can switch within the same fund house,... brows.gif
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Switching cannot get tax relief.
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Dec 2 2020, 03:06 PM)
which fund u purchase?
can switch within the same fund house,... brows.gif
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i have cimb and kenanga. tongue.gif
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post Dec 2 2020, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Dec 2 2020, 03:07 PM)
Switching cannot get tax relief.
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My bad 😅
I mean if not performing can switch not for tax purposes

QUOTE(tehoice @ Dec 2 2020, 03:10 PM)
i have cimb and kenanga.  tongue.gif
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My cimb is ok, i don't have kenanga, try ask Grumpy.
Kenanga prs growth?

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Dec 2 2020, 02:21 PM)
Yes, the only dilemma is last year those funds didnt really make positive returns, so in another words, selling at a loss.
hmm, still thinking if I should withdraw the money and put it into elsewhere like stashaway or others.

but what is stopping me is the negative return for 2019. But also not to forget, we also do have instant profits when we claim our tax relief.

so it's kinda even out.
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correct. i withdrew those from 2017 and 2018. unfortunately 2019 i invested in amreits which is still making loss now. probably keeping it unless miraculous recovery in next couple of weeks.

on the other hand, lump sum 3k to manulife reit to get tng voucher and take advantage of the low reit price.
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post Dec 2 2020, 10:38 PM

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Hi Guys! New to PRS here. Thinking to open a PRS account for the tax incentive by year end.
1) Is it better to invest via PPA website or FSM? Any difference?
2) What are the recommended funds for high growth long term?
3) Can non-bumis invest in Islamic funds?
Thanks!

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