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onthefly
post Aug 2 2020, 12:33 AM

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seem like 'better' provider have highest sales charge of 3%
is it still okay to go with provider with 3% in the long run?
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post Aug 20 2020, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 4 2020, 12:25 PM)
Use FSM or eUT to buy PRS at 0%. So even if the fund is making 3%p.a who cares. You already make money. The thing is avoid paying service charge at all cost.
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https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/fsmone/res...commended-funds
https://www.eunittrust.com.my/Home/Banner1
https://www.ppa.my/wp-content/uploads/2020/...ormance-All.pdf
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post Nov 22 2020, 08:06 PM

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Tried to register account from PRS https://prsenrolment.ppa.my/
Seem force to choose the PRS Provider & Fund. Cannot skip ?
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post Nov 22 2020, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Nov 22 2020, 09:27 PM)
why dont buy through FSM?......free of charge
i dont know u in which situation..... sweat.gif
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Situation is first timer
Tried fsmone earlier but seem need they will send snail mail ?
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So thought faster if PRS can do everything online.

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Just saw this. can do online for certain provider.

Formless PRS application is applicable via FSMOne Mobile Website on certain Fund House, please click this link HERE for more information.

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post Dec 1 2020, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Nov 30 2020, 03:35 PM)
i will suggest u this:

1. Affin Hwang PRS Growth Fund (if wanna return high a bit)
2. Affin Hwang PRS Moderate Fund (my favor n consistent)
3. Principal PRS Plus Moderate - Class C

others not recommend for u if u want conservative / moderate
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for long term which would be better between
Affin Hwang PRS Growth with moderate Fund ?

moderate has lower management fees by 0.3 compare to growth
Would that make moderate be "better" if i want to go long term? confused.gif
appreciate any thoughts or feedback
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post Dec 1 2020, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Dec 1 2020, 12:37 AM)
With more active management (more buy and sell transaction), of course more fees will be incurred. Conservative will have the lowest management fee, would you say that it is the best because it is cheap?
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the return for both Conservative and growth seem close. so if factor in additional 0.3
conservation might potentially be better
Will need to check what is inside both funds
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post Dec 1 2020, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Dec 1 2020, 02:16 PM)
i think thats the way.....normally ur PPA account is PPA<IC number>
i think later PM will snail mail/email u the receipt n anything about the account.....

Why dun just open PMO account n buy PRS through PMO?.....pusing pusing u....
Why dun buy through FSM which is 0% sales charge? (but Public not in FSM list, if u insist Public oso)
why u buy RM100.50 only? why dun just 3k one shot?
u happily pay RM 0.5 every time u making top up ?.....BTW is ur money, its ok....just curious....... sweat.gif
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maybe he testing. like for Stashway i put rm100 for see see first. but no fees involved la
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post Dec 2 2020, 12:16 AM

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can use joint account to purchase fund on fsm right ?
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Dec 3 2020, 06:40 PM)

Personal tax relief= 9k
EPF= 4k
Insurance= 3k
Lifestyle tax relief= 2.5k


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Side track abit
1. EPF Contribution
Maximum Tax Relief: RM4,000

how much get in return by contributing 4k to EPF ( not via salary ) ? hmm.gif
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post Dec 4 2020, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Dec 4 2020, 12:49 AM)
You mean you contribute another 4k voluntarily?
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yep

like for PRS if in 24% bracket, you "earn" rm720
Is there any such table for 4k for EPF?
Thinking to invest some, also force to lock in some money

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https://www.ppa.my/prs-tax-relief/
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(QSYT @ Dec 4 2020, 11:07 AM)
Yes, and if invest in new fund, which CIMB fund should i go for?
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depend your situation like risk, age, etc
you can have look at

https://gllt.morningstar.com/e6qvxuu98r/fun...anguageId=en-GB

and fsmone.
Few recommendation also in this thread
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post Dec 6 2020, 12:54 AM

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Been few days, i have not receive email on the promotion tng rm40. Invested 3k in a single transaction.

https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/research/ar...Insurance=false

how long will fsmone provide the rm40 for funding 3k in a single transaction ?



QUOTE(blibala @ Dec 5 2020, 09:21 PM)
Thx
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You might want to invest before 11th December to get rm40 tng promotion from fsmone

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post Dec 10 2020, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(Cyclopes @ Dec 4 2020, 05:07 AM)
It will be just like PRS. If income bracket is 24% your 'savings' will be RM 960.
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side track,How to invest 4k into epf for the tax relief ?

Is it this ?
https://www.imoney.my/articles/beginners-guide-epf-i-invest

ok i think i found my answer
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https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution...lf-contribution

it seem self contribution to EPF is less popular, my aim is for tax relief likr PRS. is there better option around? hmm.gif

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post Dec 10 2020, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Dec 10 2020, 06:58 AM)
If you have maxed out tax relief for EPF via normal salary deduction by your employer, this self contribution won't be beneficial from the perspective of tax saving as EPF tax relief is meant for both channels (via salary contribution, via additional self contribution and via voluntary self contribution for self-employed).
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oh i see, so the 4000 tax relief is counted/inclusive from my Monthly Tax Deduction.


QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 10 2020, 06:59 AM)
Are you employed & need to contribute monthly to epf?
If, yes.. Is your annual statutory epf contribution amount already exceeded the limits set by lhdn for tax reduction under epf?
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yes employed, and have Monthly Tax Deduction
i think exceed 4k tax relief.

No wonder seldom see discussion on this.
Thanks for the feedback.
Lucky didnt self contribute for nothing

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post Jan 4 2021, 05:39 PM

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anybody got news for last year promote for rm40 tng
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post Jan 9 2021, 12:17 AM

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if get PRS via fsmone wont consider right
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post Jan 10 2021, 11:05 PM

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i understand that usually end of the year got promotion like fsmone rm40 tng card.

how about early/mid of the year ?
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post Apr 9 2021, 12:41 AM

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Anybody know next promo for PRS? I only aware year end got.
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post Apr 18 2021, 02:58 PM

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Wanting to put in 3k for PRS earlier this year instead of some promotion ( year end ) as they said time in market > timing the market.
Biggest point is for tax relief.

Still relatively new to fact sheet but Principal PRS Plus Asia Pac Ex Jpn Eq is still the clear winner if using pass records...but having invest the same provider for 2nd year will incur a mere RM8. No issue with that but earlier thought was wanting to have different fund from last year for diversity

So anybody has other PRS fund to look at or any other insights ?
Criteria is growth/equity/aggressive fund outside of Malaysia. hmm.gif

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post Apr 20 2021, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(silentz @ Apr 20 2021, 03:08 PM)
Seems like buying PRS from any platform will hv no big diff?

Advantage buying from FMS or SA is due the sales charge n fees?
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FSM = 0% sales charge

PPA PRS = Differs. refer to this diagram https://www.ppa.my/prs-providers/fees-comparison/

StashAway you can create a portfolio and name it "retirement fund".

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