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Ramjade
post Feb 11 2017, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 11 2017, 08:51 PM)
xuzen / Ramjade, may we have your thoughts on Affin Hwang Growth/Moderate funds?
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For PRS there are only 3 funds to look at.
Kenanga PRS ONe
Cimb PRS Asia Pacific
Amasia PRS REITS

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post Feb 14 2017, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 11 2017, 08:17 PM)
Invested Gross RM1,000 in Oct'16, just before I reached 31. Haven't seen the Youth Incentive Scheme of RM500 yet. It has been +-4 months already.

Question is, how long does it usually take for the money to be given?
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It should be credited some time in feb'17....
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post Feb 14 2017, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 11 2017, 08:51 PM)
xuzen / Ramjade, may we have your thoughts on Affin Hwang Growth/Moderate funds?
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AHAM Growth = puke.gif

AHAM moderate = thumbsup.gif

I am personally a contributor to AHAM PRS Moderate.

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post Feb 14 2017, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 11 2017, 08:51 PM)
xuzen / Ramjade, may we have your thoughts on Affin Hwang Growth/Moderate funds?
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 14 2017, 09:20 PM)
AHAM Growth =  puke.gif

AHAM moderate =  thumbsup.gif

I am personally a contributor to AHAM PRS Moderate.

Xuzen
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I on the other hand subscribed to AHAM Growth. I do not have any particular reasons as to why I chose that, but care to elaborate further on your comment?
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 14 2017, 09:20 PM)
AHAM Growth =  puke.gif

AHAM moderate =  :thumbsup:

I am personally a contributor to AHAM PRS Moderate.

Xuzen
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I thought ypu went with ponzi 2 proxy?
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post Feb 18 2017, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 11 2017, 08:17 PM)
Invested Gross RM1,000 in Oct'16, just before I reached 31. Haven't seen the Youth Incentive Scheme of RM500 yet. It has been +-4 months already.

Question is, how long does it usually take for the money to be given?
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They register your deposit twice, in end of June and End of December. After that you will have to wait in 6 month, not more in my case.

My wife deposited before her January birthday, same as I am in June. If you submit 2 weeks before your 31st birthday, you will stand a good chance.
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post Feb 19 2017, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 14 2017, 09:41 PM)
I thought ypu went with ponzi 2 proxy?
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I wanted to but meh! Too lazy to switch to around PRS. It is not so convenient, unlike the FSM wrap account can do with a click of a button. Besides, I only use PRS for tax relief only and amount is small compared to my other investment. A few percent difference is acceptable to me when compared to the tax relief portion.

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post Feb 19 2017, 07:48 PM

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For specific funds in PRS, how/where do I check the actual 'Annual Management fee' charged?

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Says 'Up to.....', in the PPA website..
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post Feb 19 2017, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 19 2017, 07:48 PM)
For specific funds in PRS, how/where do I check the actual 'Annual Management fee' charged?

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Says 'Up to.....', in the PPA website..
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Check their annual report via adffin hwang website or fsm website
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 7 2017, 11:11 PM)
I cannot suggest anything for you as I have no idea who you are nor what sort of circumstances you are in. But i can share with you my train of thoughts so that you can decide whether my logic / rational suits you or not.

I) PRS to me is a very passive investment and I will not be actively monitoring it unlike my other Unit Trust Investment. It is going to be a very long term investment.

II) I participate in PRS mainly for the tax relief.

III) A large chunk of my net worth is in KWSP and it is a known fact that KWSP is mainly exposed to Malaysia stock market and bond. Indirectly my assets are mainly exposed to Malaysian stock market especially government bonds and blue chip counter and index linked stocks.

IV) as such when I invest, I will select investment tools that are not exposed to Malaysia otherwise I will unwittingly increase my concentration risk.

V) Hence, when I choose a PRS, my criteria are:

A) Preferably zero sales charge, which is a no brainer.
B) Cover as broad geographical area as possible.
C) Low risk or volatility.
D) Decent return, better or at least on par with KWSP.

Due to the above criteria, I narrow my PRS selection to Affin Hwang PRS Moderate because it satisfy A), B) & C)

Due to the above criteria, I narrow my PRS selection to CIMB Principle PRS Asia-Pac Ex Japan Equity because it satisfy A), B) & D).

With regards AMReits PRS, I reserve my participation because it is sector specific and as such being a thematic play, I will avoid it as I have to monitor it actively.

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Hmm, C) Low risk or volatility, what about semi high risk?

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QUOTE(fjoru103 @ Feb 20 2017, 10:28 AM)
Hmm,  C) Low risk or volatility, what about semi high risk?
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The above are my criteria, you want semi high risk, you go and do your own research..... let us know when you find out.
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post Feb 20 2017, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 7 2017, 08:50 PM)
The 3 good funds
Cimb PRS Asia Pacific
AmPRS REITS
KenangaPRS one (only pick this if you are confident with Malaysian economy)
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how about PB?
im new to PRS...
still considering my option..
hvnt invest any PRS yet but only have PBB in my thought now..
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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Feb 20 2017, 07:14 PM)
how about PB?
im new to PRS...
still considering my option..
hvnt invest any PRS yet but only have PBB in my thought now..
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PB sucks. Pay 3% SC. If you buy PRS from FSM, it's 0% service charge.
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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Feb 20 2017, 07:14 PM)
how about PB?
im new to PRS...
still considering my option..
hvnt invest any PRS yet but only have PBB in my thought now..
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While waiting for his responses....
I just wanna add tis....for pm prs funds ..there us a 3% sc while others hv no sc.
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post Feb 20 2017, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 20 2017, 07:28 PM)
PB sucks. Pay 3% SC. If you buy PRS from FSM, it's 0% service charge.
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o.. i thought PB mutual fund is doing good then the PRS will be the same too...
These are the PRS u recommend?

Cimb PRS Asia Pacific
AmPRS REITS
KenangaPRS
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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Feb 20 2017, 07:42 PM)
o.. i thought PB mutual fund is doing good then the PRS will be the same too...
These are the PRS u recommend?

Cimb PRS Asia Pacific
AmPRS REITS
KenangaPRS
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PB Mutual is not doing good when you compare with it's peers (other fund which invest in the same region)

Just choose one.
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 7 2017, 11:11 PM)
I cannot suggest anything for you as I have no idea who you are nor what sort of circumstances you are in. But i can share with you my train of thoughts so that you can decide whether my logic / rational suits you or not.

I) PRS to me is a very passive investment and I will not be actively monitoring it unlike my other Unit Trust Investment. It is going to be a very long term investment.

II) I participate in PRS mainly for the tax relief.

III) A large chunk of my net worth is in KWSP and it is a known fact that KWSP is mainly exposed to Malaysia stock market and bond. Indirectly my assets are mainly exposed to Malaysian stock market especially government bonds and blue chip counter and index linked stocks.

IV) as such when I invest, I will select investment tools that are not exposed to Malaysia otherwise I will unwittingly increase my concentration risk.

V) Hence, when I choose a PRS, my criteria are:

A) Preferably zero sales charge, which is a no brainer.
B) Cover as broad geographical area as possible.
C) Low risk or volatility.
D) Decent return, better or at least on par with KWSP.

Due to the above criteria, I narrow my PRS selection to Affin Hwang PRS Moderate because it satisfy A), B) & C)

Due to the above criteria, I narrow my PRS selection to CIMB Principle PRS Asia-Pac Ex Japan Equity because it satisfy A), B) & D).

With regards AMReits PRS, I reserve my participation because it is sector specific and as such being a thematic play, I will avoid it as I have to monitor it actively.

Xuzen
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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Feb 20 2017, 07:42 PM)
o.. i thought PB mutual fund is doing good then the PRS will be the same too...
These are the PRS u recommend?

Cimb PRS Asia Pacific
AmPRS REITS
KenangaPRS
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post Feb 20 2017, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Feb 20 2017, 07:47 PM)

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thank you...
it is really useful for newbie like me....

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Hi, I am new to PRS.
As a young investor (24 still consider young?), which PRS will you guys recommend?

I have compare multiple PRS (affinhwang, PB and kenanga) and I found that affinhwang have the best performance? (not sure)

But affinhwang has a slightly higher annual charge compare to others, is it doesn't matter?

Need advice, thank you.
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QUOTE(ultimate93 @ Feb 21 2017, 12:00 AM)
Hi, I am new to PRS.
As a young investor (24 still consider young?), which PRS will you guys recommend?

I have compare multiple PRS (affinhwang, PB and kenanga) and I found that affinhwang have the best performance? (not sure)

But affinhwang has a slightly higher annual charge compare to others, is it  doesn't matter?

Need advice, thank you.
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Rhb ?

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