thanks....i guess just depositing rm5k just to get the tax discount is worth it
Private Retirement Fund, What the hell is that??
Private Retirement Fund, What the hell is that??
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Nov 14 2015, 05:07 PM
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thanks....i guess just depositing rm5k just to get the tax discount is worth it
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Nov 14 2015, 05:12 PM
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Nov 14 2015, 05:15 PM
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$5K heheh.. i think someone may be confused with SSPN? This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Nov 14 2015, 07:31 PM |
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Nov 14 2015, 09:58 PM
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Nov 16 2015, 11:40 AM
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are UT companies the only ones offering PRS? or insurance companies as well?
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Nov 16 2015, 11:42 AM
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Nov 16 2015, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(KopitiamTalk @ Nov 16 2015, 11:40 AM) You will realise that many some Insurance Company also have a UT division namely:i) AIA offers PRS ii) Manulife offers PRS iii) AM Assuarance offers PRS via their asset management division. Xuzen |
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Nov 16 2015, 04:18 PM
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I think some people misunderstood how to claim tax relief for PRS.
When you save RM3k in your PRS account, it does not mean you can claim RM3k from LHDN. This is how to calculate: Let's say you earn RM100k annually And you save RM3k in your PRS account RM100k-3k = 97k So, RM97k is your taxable income. I would say PRS is a very good investment scheme If I can switch EPF to PRS I would do it |
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Nov 16 2015, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(nashburn @ Nov 16 2015, 04:18 PM) I think some people misunderstood how to claim tax relief for PRS. Personally I won't.When you save RM3k in your PRS account, it does not mean you can claim RM3k from LHDN. This is how to calculate: Let's say you earn RM100k annually And you save RM3k in your PRS account RM100k-3k = 97k So, RM97k is your taxable income. I would say PRS is a very good investment scheme If I can switch EPF to PRS I would do it EPF - principal money is guaranteed, return also guaranteed, just how much the dividend will be only. PRS - Principal not guaranteed, return also not guaranteed, can be no dividend, and make a lost if market situation is not favourable to the fund. I would opt for UT instead of PRS. PRS = UT that cannot be withdrawn until reaching pension age, apart from the tax relief (3K max), there is no incentive to invest into PRS at all. While invest in UT (without PRS route), you have the flexibility to withdraw or selling it anytime, if one is seeing the market has peak. |
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Nov 20 2015, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 16 2015, 10:16 PM) Personally I won't. Your statement is right. Each investment might look similar but serve to a different objective.EPF - principal money is guaranteed, return also guaranteed, just how much the dividend will be only. PRS - Principal not guaranteed, return also not guaranteed, can be no dividend, and make a lost if market situation is not favourable to the fund. I would opt for UT instead of PRS. PRS = UT that cannot be withdrawn until reaching pension age, apart from the tax relief (3K max), there is no incentive to invest into PRS at all. While invest in UT (without PRS route), you have the flexibility to withdraw or selling it anytime, if one is seeing the market has peak. UT is considered active investment where you need to monitor the price every now and then, the objective is to accumulate wealth within a period of time. PRS has a different objective where it targets for your retirement age, thus it is not advisable to withdraw though you can after 1 year and subject to 8% penalty charge. Employer also can contribute without a fix amount or term. This type of retirement scheme is common in other countries but still considered new in Malaysia. You can also choose the risk profile which suits you whether its conservative, moderate or aggressive. Yes, the return not guaranteed and can be no dividend and all (same thing with UT) but PRS is meant for long term investment and you can switch to other operator if you wish. |
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Nov 25 2015, 11:20 PM
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What is the interest rate per annum for PRS?
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Nov 25 2015, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(wkyrichie @ Nov 25 2015, 11:20 PM) interest rate per annum? PRS is sort of Unit trust investment......they don't pay interest to you. they are not guaranteed products like Bank Fixed Deposit. Your investment in PRS carries investment risks... Is the investment into PRS guaranteed by the government or does it have a minimum dividend policy? PRS investments are not guaranteed and it does not have any statutory minimum dividend policy. You are advised to read and understand the Disclosure Document and Product Highlights Sheet to understand the risks involved before investing into a PRS. http://www.ppa.my/prs/prs-faqs/ |
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Nov 26 2015, 12:00 AM
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Why PRS is created? The truth is out there all this while.
Over 80% of Malaysians worry about not having enough for retirement http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015...ans-retirement/ Retirement crisis brewing as EPF savings suggest pensioner poverty http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...nsioner-poverty Retirees’ EPF funds barely enough to last five years http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...o-last-5-years/ USA, no.1 economy in the world, as of today 1USD = MYR4.21704 (Americans do have high purchasing power), settling on Older Retirement Age at 65 http://www.gallup.com/poll/182939/american...rement-age.aspx Our wealthy neighbor is not doing well either http://www.cnbc.com/id/100472868 Meanwhile, may not seem much but won't hurt to know>>> Benefits of PRS: https://www.fimm.com.my/distributors/prs/pr...ent-scheme-prs/ Another benefit of PRS: http://www.ppa.my/prs/prs-youth/prs-youth-incentive/ |
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Nov 26 2015, 10:01 AM
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Nov 26 2015, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(nashburn @ Nov 16 2015, 04:18 PM) I think some people misunderstood how to claim tax relief for PRS. For the default 12% EPF contribution you can't. But if your employer pays more than 12% as an employee perk, a lot of banks offer that; then the additional percentage, you can put in PRS and employer will still get tax deduction up to 19% just like additional EPF contributionWhen you save RM3k in your PRS account, it does not mean you can claim RM3k from LHDN. This is how to calculate: Let's say you earn RM100k annually And you save RM3k in your PRS account RM100k-3k = 97k So, RM97k is your taxable income. I would say PRS is a very good investment scheme If I can switch EPF to PRS I would do it The only trouble is, most HR is too lazy to provide this option as it means more work to them, especially if the employees want to contribute to different funds under different PRS providers I highly recommend this option to those Sdn Bhd business owners as it is tax advantageous and less sales charge compared to if you take out from EPF account 1 to invest in UT |
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Nov 26 2015, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 16 2015, 10:16 PM) Personally I won't. Yeap the only incentive for me is the tax relief.EPF - principal money is guaranteed, return also guaranteed, just how much the dividend will be only. PRS - Principal not guaranteed, return also not guaranteed, can be no dividend, and make a lost if market situation is not favourable to the fund. I would opt for UT instead of PRS. PRS = UT that cannot be withdrawn until reaching pension age, apart from the tax relief (3K max), there is no incentive to invest into PRS at all. While invest in UT (without PRS route), you have the flexibility to withdraw or selling it anytime, if one is seeing the market has peak. Max out EPF first and then go for PRS. After maxing out PRS, I'd go for shares. |
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Nov 26 2015, 11:46 AM
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Nov 26 2015, 11:57 AM
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Is it me or do you all realise that this PRS thread is extra active during the end of the year?
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Nov 26 2015, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 25 2015, 11:29 PM) interest rate per annum? So how much dividend do u all expect per annum? Im sure u are investing expecting something in return right? PRS is sort of Unit trust investment......they don't pay interest to you. they are not guaranteed products like Bank Fixed Deposit. Your investment in PRS carries investment risks... Is the investment into PRS guaranteed by the government or does it have a minimum dividend policy? PRS investments are not guaranteed and it does not have any statutory minimum dividend policy. You are advised to read and understand the Disclosure Document and Product Highlights Sheet to understand the risks involved before investing into a PRS. http://www.ppa.my/prs/prs-faqs/ |
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