QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 22 2011, 11:57 AM)
This post has been edited by gogo2: Sep 22 2011, 01:19 PMSTOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V98, Celebrating KLCI breach 13xx point
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V98, Celebrating KLCI breach 13xx point
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Check in second..haha
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V98 ar.. manyak ONG ar!!!
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Huat!!
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HUAT ARRRRHHHHH
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I am third! Today no working can register to new thread early!
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Hopefully, new thread new hope. Miss the time KLCI hitting 1,600 points. Now so sick already, everyday red..almost.
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Another defensive play is to sell it at minor profit / break-even / minor losses and later when trend reverse only buy back. |
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98!!!! But DJ future very red
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I every time 慢一步....
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Huat la... time for rebound !!!
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wa...i in @ 13A
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let's turn the stock forum into a chatroom while the losers buy high, before they know it, we are going to snipe the bear instead. 40% more discount to go, countdown begins now.
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If uncle Ben does not offer some sweet this 21 - 22nd Sept. We will be seeing below 1400 this week. Volatile week.
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How good will it be if Ben will just inform everyone in the world
Market is bad, just sell all your stock now. Yes, we are in recession. Nothing is moving, and bank is defaulting for sure. Greece is going to default, and Greece bank is going to get hard hit. Die to market, market will collapse in a serious manner now. |
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In! Huat ar!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 04:06 PM) 10 x cut loss 10%, habis liao... +1 LIKE Buy A stock at Rm1.00, drop to Rm0.90, cut loss, loss Rm0.10 Buy B stock at Rm1.00, drop to Rm0.90, cut loss, loss another Rm0.10 Buy C stock at Rm2.00, drop to Rm1.80, cut loss, loss another Rm0.20. Market rebound strongly, no stock in hand.... Net loss Rm0.40, earn nothing because all stocks cut loss... |
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greece.. quickly default plz... end our suffering~~ This post has been edited by mopster: Sep 19 2011, 04:31 PM |
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sorry to say but still got plenty of room to drop..... I only have 25% in stocks....... still waiting to pick up durian runtuh.....
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Year end our KLCI should be 1350, my forecast. Check out now. Meeting up some clients.
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Sep 19 2011, 04:30 PM) How good will it be if Ben will just inform everyone in the world Just want to ask opinion. We hear recession everyday, does any of you hear any big retrenchment in M'sia recently? Market is bad, just sell all your stock now. Yes, we are in recession. Nothing is moving, and bank is defaulting for sure. Greece is going to default, and Greece bank is going to get hard hit. Die to market, market will collapse in a serious manner now. |
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NO worry guys.....if everyday drop 15 pts..... still need another 94 days to reach 0
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Sep 19 2011, 04:30 PM) How good will it be if Ben will just inform everyone in the world Ben should K.I.S.S.Market is bad, just sell all your stock now. Yes, we are in recession. Nothing is moving, and bank is defaulting for sure. Greece is going to default, and Greece bank is going to get hard hit. Die to market, market will collapse in a serious manner now. Ben : We are toasted !! |
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If Greece defaults, it will bring down some big European banks with them.
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My uemland koyak 99.......
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 19 2011, 04:35 PM) This forum can be used to gauge the market. Previously, Cherroy (if I am not mistaken), mentioned that history is repeating itself when Ace counters become hot topic in this forum. More and more forumers reporting holding little shares = ?? Anyone can complete the equation? Edited: Ace market become hot topic = market top More newbie forumers = market top This post has been edited by staind: Sep 19 2011, 04:41 PM |
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JTINTER good buy at 5.50-6.00, Alex said.
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QUOTE(cherroy) 10 x cut loss 10%, habis liao... Can lower cut losses %, say 5%-7%.Buy A stock at Rm1.00, drop to Rm0.90, cut loss, loss Rm0.10 Buy B stock at Rm1.00, drop to Rm0.90, cut loss, loss another Rm0.10 Buy C stock at Rm2.00, drop to Rm1.80, cut loss, loss another Rm0.20. Market rebound strongly, no stock in hand.... Net loss Rm0.40, earn nothing because all stocks cut loss... Cannot be buy 10/10 stocks also a loser stocks kua Cut-losses has 'saved' me and my capital If I didn't cut losses quick, much capital trap inside now. But if cut losses, we can protect the capital first and after the storm has faded, then can buy back lower later. But if losses too deep say 20% or more, then I guess no point cutting lioa. |
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QUOTE(othme @ Sep 19 2011, 04:33 PM) Just want to ask opinion. We hear recession everyday, does any of you hear any big retrenchment in M'sia recently? Facts is YES... there is some ongoing.... but till now still voluntary. Many many company freeze headcount and starting to do drastic cost cutting.Recession not yet but at door steps liau |
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Sep 19 2011, 04:43 PM) Can lower cut losses %, say 5%-7%. In a bear market, you can have buy 10/10 stocks also loser stock one. Cannot be buy 10/10 stocks also a loser stocks kua Cut-losses has 'saved' me and my capital If I didn't cut losses quick, much capital trap inside now. But if cut losses, we can protect the capital first and after the storm has faded, then can buy back lower later. But if losses too deep say 20% or more, then I guess no point cutting lioa. Don't believe, try it yourself, or someone can share this experience. Talk is easy, real trade and practically time, thing is always not happening as your script one. Take for eg. Sime. in 3 trading day, plunged more than 10% already. How? 5-7% is very easy to achieve one, one may forever cut loss, cut loss, until cut everything. |
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Fears run high here... lol
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QUOTE(kuluuluk @ Sep 19 2011, 04:45 PM) Facts is YES... there is some ongoing.... but till now still voluntary. Many many company freeze headcount and starting to do drastic cost cutting. So bad? ..My place here, many companies are still ok wo.Recession not yet but at door steps liau Anyway thanks for sharing |
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Some may say, don't play in bear market.
But when you know it is a bull market time, often it is too late. Every technical rebound can mean a baby bull trend is born. No one know it is an uptrend or technical rebound, until it is too late. For eg. recently, DJ has a nice surge from below 11000, to 11500, it is a uptrend, or start of uptrend? or it is a technical rebound, before dipping back or even lower? You want to see you a stock price which is RM2.00, but you bought at RM0.80 or even lower, then it is only achievable when you bought the stock in a bear market. How people can buy PBB at RM0.88? How people can buy Genting during 2008 at RM3.xx or Rm4.xx? All comes from a down trend market, bear market. |
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DIGI getting hit very bad
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 04:57 PM) Some may say, don't play in bear market. bro cherroy.. I'm bottom fishing also... so when the sifu said like that, I become scared because it seems my tactic of bottom fishing is wrong...But when you know it is a bull market time, often it is too late. Every technical rebound can mean a baby bull trend is born. No one know it is an uptrend or technical rebound, until it is too late. For eg. recently, DJ has a nice surge from below 11000, to 11500, it is a uptrend, or start of uptrend? or it is a technical rebound, before dipping back or even lower? You want to see you a stock price which is RM2.00, but you bought at RM0.80 or even lower, then it is only achievable when you bought the stock in a bear market. How people can buy PBB at RM0.88? How people can buy Genting during 2008 at RM3.xx or Rm4.xx? All comes from a down trend market, bear market. anyway, hopefully you're right... |
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Start of the next bear market? KLSE market technicals look really bad...
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 04:51 PM) In a bear market, you can have buy 10/10 stocks also loser stock one. I'm the one Don't believe, try it yourself, or someone can share this experience. Talk is easy, real trade and practically time, thing is always not happening as your script one. Take for eg. Sime. in 3 trading day, plunged more than 10% already. How? 5-7% is very easy to achieve one, one may forever cut loss, cut loss, until cut everything. 10/10 stocks all in loss now with some close to 50% Avg >20% in red For me no point to cut loss at this point of time I'll average down if downtrend continues and buy some BMWs at Proton's price market will rebound someday btw, checking in |
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QUOTE(robinlim @ Sep 19 2011, 05:01 PM) I'm the one sry to hear that bro.. mind sharing what are the counters ?10/10 stocks all in loss now with some close to 50% Avg >20% in red For me no point to cut loss at this point of time I'll average down if downtrend continues and buy some BMWs at Proton's price market will rebound someday btw, checking in my biggest losers are KianJoo and Fajar.. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 05:57 PM) Some may say, don't play in bear market. True, not easy to 'see' the TRUE reversal sign. Perhaps can use Bone's tactic, enter by stages using KLCI as benchmark.But when you know it is a bull market time, often it is too late. Every technical rebound can mean a baby bull trend is born. No one know it is an uptrend or technical rebound, until it is too late. For eg. recently, DJ has a nice surge from below 11000, to 11500, it is a uptrend, or start of uptrend? or it is a technical rebound, before dipping back or even lower? You want to see you a stock price which is RM2.00, but you bought at RM0.80 or even lower, then it is only achievable when you bought the stock in a bear market. How people can buy PBB at RM0.88? How people can buy Genting during 2008 at RM3.xx or Rm4.xx? All comes from a down trend market, bear market. One sifu say if use 200 SMA, might not have much meat when go it but its signal is stronger. 50days and 100days SMA crossing over signal is weaker but more meat. QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 19 2011, 06:03 PM) sry to hear that bro.. mind sharing what are the counters ? Mine is old paramon. The moment I buy (bonus and split share time) never above my buy price once my biggest losers are KianJoo and Fajar.. This post has been edited by ngaisteve1: Sep 19 2011, 05:13 PM |
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I practice cut lost as well. It was when the market was sideway before the recent selldown. I did it early and it saved my capital plus profit.
I got 10% in stock only. It was bought recently. My play is to average down on these stocks real slowly. Therefore, I am buying in downtrend SLOWLY. This post has been edited by staind: Sep 19 2011, 05:14 PM |
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Fuyoh~ After sunday news, i got hint that KLSE in red sea zone ~~~
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 19 2011, 05:03 PM) sry to hear that bro.. mind sharing what are the counters ? The biggest lost being Bursa-CTmy biggest losers are KianJoo and Fajar.. should have cut it early thought that market might rebound in few months time the expiry date is January next year now almost wiped out Again is issued by CIMB, like Affin-CD A lesson well learnt Second big lost is SPSetia-WB Close to 50% but I'm not to worried on this counter as their fundamental is strong It earned me handsome profits previously Another 1 year+ to go before the expiry Basically my main losses are from warrants share wise average loss is 10% This post has been edited by robinlim: Sep 19 2011, 05:21 PM |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 19 2011, 04:59 PM) bro cherroy.. I'm bottom fishing also... so when the sifu said like that, I become scared because it seems my tactic of bottom fishing is wrong... Bottom fishing only right, if you fish the right fish or right fish pond, aka your targeted stock is right (fundamental good, solid) in the first place.anyway, hopefully you're right... Bottom fishing can lead one lose pant one, if you fish at rubbish pond. In a stock market exchange, you can have 1000 stocks, but the right fish can mean just a couple of ten or hundred stocks only. |
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Tomorrow testing 1400.......hopefully with a good rebound
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 05:23 PM) Bottom fishing only right, if you fish the right fish or right fish pond, aka your targeted stock is right (fundamental good, solid) in the first place. wa sibeh suka this post! Bottom fishing can lead one lose pant one, if you fish at rubbish pond. In a stock market exchange, you can have 1000 stocks, but the right fish can mean just a couple of ten or hundred stocks only. |
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Surely another bearish market tomorrow. Doesn't look good in the west.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 19 2011, 04:35 PM) Hmm.....nope. I guess I have more stocks (value) than last year or at least earlier of the year, but I never used a single cent to buy it since April. Guess my allocation have to leave it to next year or might start to shoot d. |
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It wouldn't drop to zero one rather lock down everything ~
Lock down lock down ~~ |
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Actually, recent drop just by the Petronas related counters and Sime Babi. Others still holding on quite well.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 06:23 PM) Bottom fishing only right, if you fish the right fish or right fish pond, aka your targeted stock is right (fundamental good, solid) in the first place. Yes agree, cannot simply tembak! Bottom fishing can lead one lose pant one, if you fish at rubbish pond. In a stock market exchange, you can have 1000 stocks, but the right fish can mean just a couple of ten or hundred stocks only. So, the percentage to get the good one is only about 0.1%-10%. walau. |
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Wah, our formal love Maybulk now visiting 1.8* ... Wow almost down by half...
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currently, it's all the share hv drop 30% ??
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Check in. Why no rally? Sheeeet. To dump or not to dump my remaining counters, that is the question. This post has been edited by Veda: Sep 19 2011, 06:49 PM |
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QUOTE(Dackson @ Sep 19 2011, 06:29 PM) i think majority(means mostly not blue-chips) of shares have dropped 25-35% from their peak by now. Imagine even strong players such as QL(20%), spsetia(28%), mahsing(32%), panamy(20%), genting(19%), cimb(23%), maybank(6%), KLK(6%)....hmm....another 20% to fall? that would make it ngam ngam 50%. Added on September 19, 2011, 6:50 pmpana, for me is, this year and last year also 白做。 Added on September 19, 2011, 6:52 pm QUOTE(Veda @ Sep 19 2011, 06:48 PM) Check in. Why no rally? Sheeeet. To dump or not to dump my remaining counters, that is the question. cut loss now? not too late meh? but who knows, maybe CI prefer 12xx more. Added on September 19, 2011, 6:55 pmAny latest paper on SIME buying E&O deal? Do IB think 2.30 expensive or fair? This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 19 2011, 06:55 PM |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 19 2011, 06:48 PM) i think majority(means mostly not blue-chips) of shares have dropped 25-35% from their peak by now. Imagine even strong players such as QL(20%), spsetia(28%), mahsing(32%), panamy(20%), genting(19%), cimb(23%), maybank(6%), KLK(6%).... huh~hmm....another 20% to fall? that would make it ngam ngam 50%. Added on September 19, 2011, 6:50 pmpana, for me is, this year and last year also 白做。 Added on September 19, 2011, 6:52 pm cut loss now? not too late meh? but who knows, maybe CI prefer 12xx more. Added on September 19, 2011, 6:55 pmAny latest paper on SIME buying E&O deal? Do IB think 2.30 expensive or fair? look like can wait 50% ^^ EU there still hv 17billions debt maturity ^^ CI 1280 may be testing ? |
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just realize kimlun dropped 37% from recent peak! even without serious doubt issue such as write-back risk in muhibah(45%) .
mudajya with better earnings dropped 34%, fajar with much lower profit last qtr on the other hand only dropped 24%. |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 19 2011, 07:04 PM) just realize kimlun dropped 37% from recent peak! even without serious doubt issue such as write-back risk in muhibah(45%) . Cause they are cyclical stocks mah.mudajya with better earnings dropped 34%, fajar with much lower profit last qtr on the other hand only dropped 24%. Most IBs were heavily promoting O&G, construction, property (all cyclical) a couple of months back cause of ETF. Now these sectors are the hardest hit. The non-cyclicals, so-called defensives like JTI, DLady, etc will also drop by big % eventually ........ just that the cyclical stocks always get hit first. |
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QUOTE(Veda @ Sep 19 2011, 07:11 PM) Cause they are cyclical stocks mah. Huuat arrr!!!!Most IBs were heavily promoting O&G, construction, property (all cyclical) a couple of months back cause of ETF. Now these sectors are the hardest hit. The non-cyclicals, so-called defensives like JTI, DLady, etc will also drop by big % eventually ........ just that the cyclical stocks always get hit first. Hopefully today is the bottom oredi. |
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btw, just curious here.
what happen if they (ECB, IMF, and others) dont lend money to greece? greece goes default right? so what will happen to euro if greece goes default? it affects everyone right? so in a way, they dont have much to choose from but to keep lending to greece right? correct me if im wrong coz im not really a economic/financial guy |
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Sep 19 2011, 08:47 PM) btw, just curious here. if greece goes default, european banks will kena kaw kaw.what happen if they (ECB, IMF, and others) dont lend money to greece? greece goes default right? so what will happen to euro if greece goes default? it affects everyone right? so in a way, they dont have much to choose from but to keep lending to greece right? correct me if im wrong coz im not really a economic/financial guy Added on September 19, 2011, 8:50 pm QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 19 2011, 07:51 PM) Should change the thread title to:Save us, Unker Ben! Do the Twist! This post has been edited by Veda: Sep 19 2011, 08:50 PM |
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QUOTE(Veda @ Sep 19 2011, 08:48 PM) so if european banks kena, does it directly affect asian & US banks/economy?or could it be just purely fear that drive everyone to sell and hide in the bunker? This post has been edited by ham_revilo: Sep 19 2011, 08:51 PM |
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Nice! My wish came true.. KLCI pierced through the last low of Aug 9th, with higher prior volume.
I would cover here. Let see if some bulls are brave enough to start buying here. There's a very steep cliff below 1400 all the way to 1370. Btw the way, those praying for Uncle Ben to appear... just continue to pray. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Sep 19 2011, 09:47 PM |
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Sep 19 2011, 08:47 PM) btw, just curious here. Greece default, never mind, bond holder lose out only. what happen if they (ECB, IMF, and others) dont lend money to greece? greece goes default right? so what will happen to euro if greece goes default? it affects everyone right? so in a way, they dont have much to choose from but to keep lending to greece right? correct me if im wrong coz im not really a economic/financial guy Who are the bond holders? Banks. Banks losing big money, and affect its liquidity and credibility and confidence is the biggest nightmare of economy. Economy cannot work without banks. QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Sep 19 2011, 08:50 PM) so if european banks kena, does it directly affect asian & US banks/economy? Now, you see why I said before, we are seeing the disadvantage of globalisation, everything become inter-related.or could it be just purely fear that drive everyone to sell and hide in the bunker? US banks can lend money to European banks. Money can be transferred from Euro to US and vice versa with a click of mouse. Globalisation, means you die, I also suffer, everyone is inter-related. Somebody did wrong thing, but you still need to bare the consequence, just the degree more and less. See how US QE1+2 aftermath, Asian countries across generally are struggling to contain the inflation pressure? Asian countries did nothing wrong, they are not venturing into RE bubble, they are not venturing into risky derivatives, exotic derivatives, they just work hard and save enough money for themselves. But we see foods price sky-rocketing, house price shoot to the moon, and many ordinary worker class are not able, even servicing a loan. If not globalisation, it is your matter, the degree of affect is not as great now. Don't get me wrong, I am not against globalisation, it has vast advantage, but it is not flawless. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 10:23 PM) Greece default, never mind, bond holder lose out only. Sound bearishWho are the bond holders? Banks. Banks losing big money, and affect its liquidity and credibility and confidence is the biggest nightmare of economy. Economy cannot work without banks. Now, you see why I said before, we are seeing the disadvantage of globalisation, everything become inter-related. US banks can lend money to European banks. Money can be transferred from Euro to US and vice versa with a click of mouse. Globalisation, means you die, I also suffer, everyone is inter-related. Somebody did wrong thing, but you still need to bare the consequence, just the degree more and less. See how US QE1+2 aftermath, Asian countries across generally are struggling to contain the inflation pressure? Asian countries did nothing wrong, they are not venturing into RE bubble, they are not venturing into risky derivatives, exotic derivatives, they just work hard and save enough money for themselves. But we see foods price sky-rocketing, house price shoot to the moon, and many ordinary worker class are not able, even servicing a loan. If not globalisation, it is your matter, the degree of affect is not as great now. Don't get me wrong, I am not against globalisation, it has vast advantage, but it is not flawless. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 10:23 PM) Greece default, never mind, bond holder lose out only. lol... need to put a link to this post.. else the same question will pop out every now and then...Who are the bond holders? Banks. Banks losing big money, and affect its liquidity and credibility and confidence is the biggest nightmare of economy. Economy cannot work without banks. Now, you see why I said before, we are seeing the disadvantage of globalisation, everything become inter-related. US banks can lend money to European banks. Money can be transferred from Euro to US and vice versa with a click of mouse. Globalisation, means you die, I also suffer, everyone is inter-related. Somebody did wrong thing, but you still need to bare the consequence, just the degree more and less. See how US QE1+2 aftermath, Asian countries across generally are struggling to contain the inflation pressure? Asian countries did nothing wrong, they are not venturing into RE bubble, they are not venturing into risky derivatives, exotic derivatives, they just work hard and save enough money for themselves. But we see foods price sky-rocketing, house price shoot to the moon, and many ordinary worker class are not able, even servicing a loan. If not globalisation, it is your matter, the degree of affect is not as great now. Don't get me wrong, I am not against globalisation, it has vast advantage, but it is not flawless. what happens when greece default.. how are we affected by greece... etc ... |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 11:23 PM) Greece default, never mind, bond holder lose out only. Well, it is nice to see KLCI rallied from 900+ to 1500+, thanks to QE1+2. Who are the bond holders? Banks. Banks losing big money, and affect its liquidity and credibility and confidence is the biggest nightmare of economy. Economy cannot work without banks. Now, you see why I said before, we are seeing the disadvantage of globalisation, everything become inter-related. US banks can lend money to European banks. Money can be transferred from Euro to US and vice versa with a click of mouse. Globalisation, means you die, I also suffer, everyone is inter-related. Somebody did wrong thing, but you still need to bare the consequence, just the degree more and less. See how US QE1+2 aftermath, Asian countries across generally are struggling to contain the inflation pressure? Asian countries did nothing wrong, they are not venturing into RE bubble, they are not venturing into risky derivatives, exotic derivatives, they just work hard and save enough money for themselves. But we see foods price sky-rocketing, house price shoot to the moon, and many ordinary worker class are not able, even servicing a loan. If not globalisation, it is your matter, the degree of affect is not as great now. Don't get me wrong, I am not against globalisation, it has vast advantage, but it is not flawless. I think Greece defaulting is just a matter of time. Germany already prepares for it, LKY already said something about it. Then the rest of the news we read, are just like lips service to buy time only for dunno what or who.. The question is whether this Greece defaults will cause even greater effect across the world or specifically US. If it does, then a prolong recession is a sure thing.. If it can be contained within Euro countries, then the effect will go away quicker. One thing I don't understand is why FF keep on selling down KLCI and Asia? Euro is sick at the moment, and US is in bad shape still. Where the money can go?? There are literally trillions of dollars floating around after QE... Cannot be everything inject into gold.. |
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QUOTE(lch78 @ Sep 19 2011, 11:36 PM) One thing I don't understand is why FF keep on selling down KLCI and Asia? Euro is sick at the moment, and US is in bad shape still. Where the money can go?? There are literally trillions of dollars floating around after QE... Cannot be everything inject into gold.. My guess is they're back for bargain hunting at US/Europe? |
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If Greece goes default.. just close one eye and BUY during that big dip!
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QUOTE(lch78 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:36 AM) Well, it is nice to see KLCI rallied from 900+ to 1500+, thanks to QE1+2. I pondered that question before. they could use the money to create more jobs for us citizen or invest in the economy. Since it's a bear market, I don't intend to buy anything yet, just sit back and watch how us and europe performs within the next two months. just observe the unemployment rate, earning growth, debt settlement/default, and other market data, and finally watch out for any sign of bull. oh boy can't wait. this bear makes me bored, cannot even short as the volume is low and thus not liquidable.I think Greece defaulting is just a matter of time. Germany already prepares for it, LKY already said something about it. Then the rest of the news we read, are just like lips service to buy time only for dunno what or who.. The question is whether this Greece defaults will cause even greater effect across the world or specifically US. If it does, then a prolong recession is a sure thing.. If it can be contained within Euro countries, then the effect will go away quicker. One thing I don't understand is why FF keep on selling down KLCI and Asia? Euro is sick at the moment, and US is in bad shape still. Where the money can go?? There are literally trillions of dollars floating around after QE... Cannot be everything inject into gold.. |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 20 2011, 12:01 AM) lol... need to put a link to this post.. else the same question will pop out every now and then... haha! Good suggestion.what happens when greece default.. how are we affected by greece... etc ... btw, glomac quarter will be out soon. I same like last year, will be 21sep. This post has been edited by ngaisteve1: Sep 19 2011, 11:53 PM |
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Sep 19 2011, 11:48 PM) yes... i'm waiting for that moment!!! when greece defaults.. we're all set for a rebound.. glad to share the same thoughts with sifus lol... Added on September 19, 2011, 11:54 pm QUOTE(lch78 @ Sep 19 2011, 11:36 PM) Well, it is nice to see KLCI rallied from 900+ to 1500+, thanks to QE1+2. AFAIK, KLSE is the most expensive compares to our regional peers..I think Greece defaulting is just a matter of time. Germany already prepares for it, LKY already said something about it. Then the rest of the news we read, are just like lips service to buy time only for dunno what or who.. The question is whether this Greece defaults will cause even greater effect across the world or specifically US. If it does, then a prolong recession is a sure thing.. If it can be contained within Euro countries, then the effect will go away quicker. One thing I don't understand is why FF keep on selling down KLCI and Asia? Euro is sick at the moment, and US is in bad shape still. Where the money can go?? There are literally trillions of dollars floating around after QE... Cannot be everything inject into gold.. jakarta, singapore, and Thai especially are all trading at lower price-earnings multiples so... should ang moh run ? furthermore, singapore and thailand had their election.. what about M'sia ? This post has been edited by mopster: Sep 19 2011, 11:54 PM |
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Haha evryone expect a big dip
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QUOTE(sharulzzz @ Sep 19 2011, 11:57 PM) Yeah, we shall see.Market place is filled with surprises. When u look at North, it goes South. When u look at South, it goes North. Sometimes when u look at South, it goes all the way to the South Pole n exceed ur expectation. While u still look at South wonder where it goes, actually it's at ur back and stab u from the back. I remember some forummers say this before. Watch out, your wish may come true. It might reach the stage where you wish you never made that wish. |
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QUOTE(lch78 @ Sep 19 2011, 11:36 PM) Well, it is nice to see KLCI rallied from 900+ to 1500+, thanks to QE1+2. There are plenty of cash sitting at sideline.I think Greece defaulting is just a matter of time. Germany already prepares for it, LKY already said something about it. Then the rest of the news we read, are just like lips service to buy time only for dunno what or who.. The question is whether this Greece defaults will cause even greater effect across the world or specifically US. If it does, then a prolong recession is a sure thing.. If it can be contained within Euro countries, then the effect will go away quicker. One thing I don't understand is why FF keep on selling down KLCI and Asia? Euro is sick at the moment, and US is in bad shape still. Where the money can go?? There are literally trillions of dollars floating around after QE... Cannot be everything inject into gold.. Just ask back yourself a quesiton. When you know, market may turn ugly, may go down further due to potential defaulting happening, what will you do as fund managers? 1. Sell a portion and keep in cash. 2. Lock in profit (there are plenty of profit can be locked in for a lot of people). 3. Reduce exposure. Do you know, money can evaporise when market goes down? Trillions of money in paper suddenly disappear in the thin air. Lot of money flock to treasuries, ain't we see 10 years plummeting to below 2%, from 3.x%? If US and Euro economy turn ugly, Asia or Malaysia won't spare from it. Just degree of effect is more and less. See how GDP growth slowdown across Asia, when US and Europe start to register stalling growth figure. |
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We can gauge the strong dip by tracking the ADX movement. Since it is still staying below 25, the CI has actually not shown any sign of strong trend yet. Now it is considered sideway movement. If it begins upward and approaches 50, then the trend will rally downward if and only if DI+ follows downward movement.
Alex said that ADX is the last indicator left that has not flagged as a warning. Meaning all other indicators including SMA,EMA,MACD,RSI have shown their downward bias. This post has been edited by primepeng: Sep 20 2011, 12:21 AM |
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Moppy, do you really think Greece can even escape from being a bankrupt? Seems that whether they default or not is just a rhetorical question.
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ROFLMAO! It's all about the Dollar! Boy's N Girls!
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Sep 20 2011, 01:01 AM) ROFLMAO! It's all about the Dollar! Boy's N Girls! Long US market but short KLCI market?? When the world panic.. they all jumped to US treasuries! Hopefully, we can see Crude hit $80 by end of this week or early next week, then I'm long again. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 20 2011, 03:01 AM |
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Overview/Top Headlines - At the market open EUR/USD open down over 80 pips from Friday close after EU Finance Ministers failed to emerge with a solid proposal on Friday and reports surfaced over the weekend saying that the EU had warned Greece that the next aid tranche is at risk if Greece does not take further steps. Greece PM Papandreou cancelled his trip to the UN and is holding a cabinet meeting today to consider additional austerity steps for continued international bailout funds. USD gained about 80 pips against the Swiss Franc and almost 120 pips against the A$. Asian equity markets had a day of steady losses on the renewed risk aversion and the fresh wave of concern over Europe’s inability to find a concrete solution for debt issues. Gold traded up, front month silver decoupled falling 0.4% in the session. - Former Vice PBoC Gov Wu Xiaoling said China economy will cool at quicker pace in 2012 because of EU sovereign debt crisis, slower global recovery and property tightening measures. “Currently, China’s economy faces inflationary pressures as well as pressures on government debt, which means we cannot go down the road of expanding both credit and fiscal spending.” Chinese press speculated that non-performing loans for China banks may rise as much as 5% in 2011. China reported August new home prices, showing in increase in all 70 cities measured, up from 68 in July. Shanghai Aug new home prices +2.8% y/y, +2.5% m/m; Existing Home prices +3.7% y/y. Beijing Aug new home prices +1.9% y/y, flat m/m; Existing home prices +1.9% y/y. - Japan Econ Min Furukawa said the Government will announce interim plans to deal with strong Yen early this week. Support for companies struggling with strong Yen and low-interest loans to small and medium sized companies expected to be part of the measures. - German Chancellor Merkel’s CDU party defeated by centre-left opposition Social Democrats in Berlin State Elections, a small increase in support compared to last election in 2006. Merkel’s CDU won 23.4%, a gain in comparison to the 21.3% five years ago (in the 1980s the part usually secured 40%+ of the vote). |
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...............announcement to be made soon.......approval to commercialize project guaranteed...100% guaranteed. ...btw, durians falling? ![]() ![]() |
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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 20 2011, 07:44 AM) ...............announcement to be made soon.......approval to commercialize project guaranteed...100% guaranteed. ...btw, durians falling? ![]() ![]() Next time we can be board of directors for Smartag. |
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– Petronas Chemicals Group (PCHEM MK; RM6.05, Sell) – Hanging by a thread. – Multi-Purpose Holdings (MPU MK; RM2.59, Sell) – Below all its key moving averages. – Malaysia Marine and Heavy Engineering (MMHE MK; RM6.13, Sell) – More downside ahead. |
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oh my...another boring day...T T
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Sep 20 2011, 09:09 AM) how to settle? hahaha.... china donate money to greece...German lends money to Greece so that Greece can pay German back. Greece gets more debt and interest charge by German. but wan...their resources in return ie utility company, telecom company...sapu all........ |
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QUOTE(paikut @ Sep 20 2011, 09:12 AM) i think better this way....punish those who are never prudent...and at least...immediate market collapse...and then all can start afresh and slowly work our way up... instead of now...eveyrbody suffer everyday...duno where we are heading.... |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 20 2011, 09:11 AM) yea I watched the interview of LKY. He said Euro will eventually break into 2 or 3 tiers currency area. Btw, how come it affects malaysia so much ? Our banks are not exposed to Greece or Euro problem right? Why panic? |
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Sep 20 2011, 09:15 AM) yea I watched the interview of LKY. He said Euro will eventually break into 2 or 3 tiers currency area. Last time also 2008/2009 does not affect our bank. Our bank also drop a lot. Its all matter of perception. Stock marketBtw, how come it affects malaysia so much ? Our banks are not exposed to Greece or Euro problem right? Why panic? have herd mentality. QUOTE(othme @ Sep 20 2011, 09:15 AM) LOL |
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Sep 20 2011, 10:15 AM) yea I watched the interview of LKY. He said Euro will eventually break into 2 or 3 tiers currency area. Btw, how come it affects malaysia so much ? Our banks are not exposed to Greece or Euro problem right? Why panic? |
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Asian stocks and U.S. equity-index futures dropped, while the euro weakened for a third day after Italy’s credit rating was lowered at Standard & Poor’s, fueling concern Europe’s sovereign-debt crisis will worsen.
The MSCI Asia Pacific Index slipped 1.1 percent as of 9:24 a.m. in Tokyo. Standard & Poor’s 500 Index futures retreated 0.8 percent. Europe’s shared currency dropped 0.4 percent to $1.3627 and slid 0.4 percent to 104.45 yen. The Australian dollar weakened before the release of minutes from the central bank’s last policy meeting. Oil and copper retreated for a third day, while wheat climbed for the first time in four days. Italy was lowered to A from A+ on concern that weaker growth and a “fragile” government mean the country won’t be able to reduce the euro-region’s second-largest debt load, S&P said. Greece will hold another call tonight with its main creditors after a “productive” round of talks aimed at staving off default. The U.S. Federal Reserve will start a two-day meeting today amid data forecast to show that housing starts and building permits declined. |
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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 20 2011, 09:17 AM) 1580 drops to 1400 only... still no cheap sales. The counters I am eyeing still very expensive. 1000 This post has been edited by soul2soul: Sep 20 2011, 09:20 AM |
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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 20 2011, 09:17 AM) have subprime problem. |
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Sep 20 2011, 09:22 AM
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-8 points This post has been edited by soul2soul: Sep 20 2011, 09:26 AM |
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Sep 20 2011, 09:22 AM) My auntie told me got subprime cumming in 2012 because many highend condos get their keys from developers and have to start service their loans. ahahah..no need...juz sai lang all your money to buy big piece of land somewhere suburb...then do farming......rear pigs, chicken, cow, fish, etc then plant rice...vegetable...and do barter trade....no erosion in value.....can eat summore....and be healthy...do it organic.... Coupled with crisis in Europe, another monetary easing by BNM and round of inflation? I think I want to convert my money into singapore dollar already. Added on September 20, 2011, 9:23 am-7 points only.... |
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The 2012 Budget which will be presented on 7 Oct is all about keeping the economy going given the acute external uncertainties. The budget measures will build on the foundations of the Government Transformation Programme (GTP) and Economic Transformation Programme (ETP) as well as strategic reform initiatives to enhance Malaysia’s competitiveness. Investors and consumers can look forward to a “friendly” budget that will stimulate economic growth in the private sector. Generally, the budget is unlikely to deliver major negative surprises. We also expect targeted “safety net” measures to ease the burden of the rising cost of living on low- and middle-income households. The Budget should sustain fiscal support while reducing the budget deficit from an estimated 5.4% of GDP in 2011 to around 5.0% in 2012. |
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Another boring market............ Meeeoowwwww....... |
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Sep 20 2011, 09:30 AM
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Anyone know how to check shareholders in the company and when EPF dump shares ?
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tiger is standing strong in the rough wave ...
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Sep 20 2011, 09:32 AM
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market will burst... klci hit 650... juz wait 4 election n gas malaysia to make money... it's a normal market cycle every 10 year....
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QUOTE(noswear @ Sep 20 2011, 09:27 AM) ahahah..no need...juz sai lang all your money to buy big piece of land somewhere suburb...then do farming......rear pigs, chicken, cow, fish, etc then plant rice...vegetable...and do barter trade....no erosion in value.....can eat summore....and be healthy...do it organic.... will do that once my kids can fly.... |
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I got this advice from my senior Remisier..
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support at 1400 still holding, may U turn into green.....
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bcoz US market juz hanging (new low, previous high)... myb they juz wait another last push.... and all burst... wait 2013 to enter back... will rally back until 2020...
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 20 2011, 09:30 AM) If you are using OSK188 portal, just click on the "News" tab and you will be able to check substantial shareholders disposing or acquiring shares. As for number of shareholdings, refer to "Database" tab. |
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Sep 20 2011, 09:48 AM) Yeah. I agreed, cannot hold one. When FF continue to dump more, PNB, EPF and ASB cannot do much also. Foreign fund is the key to drive up the economy, didn't we know this well? Last time I was thinking that those fund manager is the key to our stock market. LOL |
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our big2 tycoon buy biz outside country... more attractive because now cheap.... our stock still expensive...
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Sep 20 2011, 10:48 AM) Yeah. I agreed, cannot hold one. When FF continue to dump more, PNB, EPF and ASB cannot do much also. Foreign fund is the key to drive up the economy, didn't we know this well? andrew, u know where to get the daily statistic how many increase/decrease of FF, local institution and retailer? |
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big tycoons are slowly shifting their money out from Malaysia....
look at genting... look at robert kuok (forced out).. and etc... and not much big project injection in Malaysia.. mostly are self implementing... eg : MRT.. bla bla only penang got news ... got blackberry factory there.. Added on September 20, 2011, 9:55 am QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 20 2011, 09:54 AM) Buy Q very high... is that a good sign? This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: Sep 20 2011, 09:55 AM |
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salcon nice bargain price... |
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our market(emerging market) is ok... but still expensive in the region ... outside market... they are develop market... at this point of time... they look attractive n cheap... have project or not is not a big issue... our project is for rakyat... benefit for rakyat...
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QUOTE(Buy @ Sell @ Sep 20 2011, 10:05 AM) our market(emerging market) is ok... but still expensive in the region ... outside market... they are develop market... at this point of time... they look attractive n cheap... have project or not is not a big issue... our project is for rakyat... benefit for rakyat... I tot Indonesia more expensive ? |
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Market U-Turn again.. Gonna test 1400 psychological barrier.
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may i ask is there any PARAMON holders here? are u guys/gals still holding your PARAMON shares?
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Put warrant is good when market drop... attractive put warrant, pchem-ha, mhb-ha, drbhcom-ha..
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late check in
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 20 2011, 10:00 AM) oh u mean bank in malaysia not involve in selling derivatives of home loans and stuff like that right? sorry to say subprime. I actually meant property bubble burst and bank in die with NPL. |
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Is a good time to continue back our work
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BRDB to sell commercial assets for RM914mil, pay special dividend
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Big stocks dropping one by one everyday. Ystday's sime, petgas etc, today's pchem's turn.
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MRCB good price
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My next buying pit at is at 1370 or 1350. I have done shopping during 1450
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QUOTE(noswear @ Sep 20 2011, 09:27 AM) ahahah..no need...juz sai lang all your money to buy big piece of land somewhere suburb...then do farming......rear pigs, chicken, cow, fish, etc then plant rice...vegetable...and do barter trade....no erosion in value.....can eat summore....and be healthy...do it organic.... I LIKE * |
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Wow, FF selling pchem? Geng...
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Sep 20 2011, 11:03 AM) ya, at least some charcoals during winter Added on September 20, 2011, 11:17 am QUOTE(devilnevercry @ Sep 20 2011, 10:41 AM) ya, the Dato' Teo Chiang Quan is acquiring bit by bit... i think one of the reasons for him to acquire the shares is to maintain the price. else it will be free fall if no buying support there...This post has been edited by ken_ng: Sep 20 2011, 11:17 AM |
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wa...small fishes selling down PARAMON
Added on September 20, 2011, 11:23 amwa...PARAMON buy Q @ 1.60 change from 900 to 90 This post has been edited by ken_ng: Sep 20 2011, 11:23 AM |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:25 PM) dividend expired long time ago lo. yesterday is the dividend payment date.QUOTE(ken_ng) ya, the Dato' Teo Chiang Quan is acquiring bit by bit... i think one of the reasons for him to acquire the shares is to maintain the price. else it will be free fall if no buying support there... Thankfully got owner and shareholders tahaning it. |
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PBB sell down begins, first time for the past few weeks see it drop so much.
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MEGB is going penny stock soon ...
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@protonw
nope.. i sold maybulk some time back.. around 2.7x @skidd It's not a sure thing that Greece will default but they are trying the 'impossible' to not default if they continue to live on Euro dollar. The austerity measure is not practical in the long run and it wont be enough to payback anything including interests. Global slowdown, high unemployment, social unrest and lack of political will only make things worse. Greece can stay in the EU but use their own currency, just like Poland and other EU members. They can survive until Jan 2012 IFF they get the next tranche of 8B Euro bail out money. There'll be a meeting on Oct 3rd to decide on that money IIRC. If i'm not wrong, Greece has done close to nothing since the Austerity bill was passed. -- sigh.. i'm dead before index hits 1300.. This post has been edited by mopster: Sep 20 2011, 11:53 AM |
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Why all GLC counters kena bashed down like hell? MRCB, Pchem, UEMLand...
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By the looks of it I'm gonna throw all my salary into the stock market for the next 3-4 months.
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I want to do quick analysis on my holdings. See which one is the most resilience & with bullet-proof vest on...
Do you guys have any counter that doesn't drop much since early Aug till now? I can think of is Reits nia. |
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I think monkeyking gonna shout SMARTAG
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:10 PM) I want to do quick analysis on my holdings. See which one is the most resilience & with bullet-proof vest on... daiman? Do you guys have any counter that doesn't drop much since early Aug till now? I can think of is Reits nia. |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:10 PM) I want to do quick analysis on my holdings. See which one is the most resilience & with bullet-proof vest on... REITS are quite resilient....others Do you guys have any counter that doesn't drop much since early Aug till now? I can think of is Reits nia. |
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Top 3 Loser in my portfoli.
Comparing their 52-weeks high VS today's price : TWS, PANAMY & BLDPLANT. Averagely corrected more than 25% On the bright side, these are the gem to be added into shopping cart lo |
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y after i buy all go down one???
affin buy 3.12 pacmas buy 3.71 now all so low....T.T |
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My best performing stock are DUTCH LADY & GAB
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Since when Mflour become 6.7x
Their multi-proposal has been approved yesterday Looks like everything has been priced in. Glad I took profit at RM8. Grin. |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:28 PM) These two bukan sudah mao privatize ka. it's not a recommendation to buy... in fact i need stress to u "not to buy hupseng"!! it never moves!!!! good day, bad day... it is forever stagnant...I like Hupseng recommended by moppy. tecnic is good.. but i think u sold.. LOL horrible cash flow.. but somehow the company is thriving This post has been edited by mopster: Sep 20 2011, 12:39 PM |
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QUOTE(yeowyin @ Sep 20 2011, 01:28 PM) This post has been edited by monkeyking: Sep 20 2011, 12:34 PM |
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But also got many babies coming out
1 accident shot gun = 1 baby 2 accident shot guns = 2 babies |
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QUOTE(othme @ Sep 20 2011, 11:30 AM) http://research.maybank-ib.com/newsletter....120454&mid=3363Added on September 20, 2011, 12:48 pm QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:10 PM) I want to do quick analysis on my holdings. See which one is the most resilience & with bullet-proof vest on... Smartag ? Do you guys have any counter that doesn't drop much since early Aug till now? I can think of is Reits nia. This post has been edited by simonc: Sep 20 2011, 12:48 PM |
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guys , any idea what is happening to dialog stocks ?? droped 0.16 this morning
should i sell and minimize bleeding ? |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:10 PM) I want to do quick analysis on my holdings. See which one is the most resilience & with bullet-proof vest on... PLANTERS . Do you guys have any counter that doesn't drop much since early Aug till now? I can think of is Reits nia. edit -> the RIGHT planters . This post has been edited by GregPG01: Sep 20 2011, 12:55 PM |
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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 20 2011, 12:33 PM) Just kidding |
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Pchem? Anyone buying?
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New 52 Week High
Symbol Last Change Vol Avg. Vol EPIC 3.0900 0.32 % 13,226 5,957 New 52 Week Low ... too many to list . lol . |
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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:51 PM) haha, my planters all tabao, paper loss liao.but I have full faith that they will make a strong come back after all this shit is over. QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:53 PM) New 52 Week High I even created a category for 52-weeks low counters.Symbol Last Change Vol Avg. Vol EPIC 3.0900 0.32 % 13,226 5,957 New 52 Week Low ... too many to list . lol . Some in my list are bluechips like TENAGA, GENTING, SUPERMAX, MAYBULK, LATEXX, etc. This post has been edited by panasonic88: Sep 20 2011, 12:57 PM |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:10 PM) I want to do quick analysis on my holdings. See which one is the most resilience & with bullet-proof vest on... My holdings that didn't drop much instead gain is BERNAS, TM, MAXIS (mantain), CMMT and SUNREIT.Do you guys have any counter that doesn't drop much since early Aug till now? I can think of is Reits nia. Worst affected is SPSETIA for the past weeks and YTLPOWR which is going downhill since early of the year. Genting paper lose is near to 6% at the moment with my ABP at 10.04. Thankfully I have took profit on SUPERMX 7 weeks ago when it was trading at 3.74. |
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Woah, you guys are heroes for holding so much blue chips in this bad market sentiment. I currently only holds smartag.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:57 PM) haha, my planters all tabao, paper loss liao. harta is much more choice than supermx and latexx . but I have full faith that they will make a strong come back after all this shit is over. I even created a category for 52-weeks low counters. Some in my list are bluechips like TENAGA, GENTING, SUPERMAX, MAYBULK, LATEXX, etc. |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:20 PM) Then this should cover all your loses below already Added on September 20, 2011, 1:06 pm QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:17 PM) Top 3 Loser in my portfoli. .Comparing their 52-weeks high VS today's price : TWS, PANAMY & BLDPLANT. Averagely corrected more than 25% On the bright side, these are the gem to be added into shopping cart lo This post has been edited by CP88: Sep 20 2011, 01:07 PM |
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property sector , cap > 1b , cheapest nominee is ..... SUNWAY , but shit everyday also getting cheaper .
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Sep 20 2011, 01:03 PM) My holdings that didn't drop much instead gain is BERNAS, TM, MAXIS (mantain), CMMT and SUNREIT. Way to go. Worst affected is SPSETIA for the past weeks and YTLPOWR which is going downhill since early of the year. Genting paper lose is near to 6% at the moment with my ABP at 10.04. Thankfully I have took profit on SUPERMX 7 weeks ago when it was trading at 3.74. Bernas 15 sens divvy ex tomolo. Hope no side effect like Panamy had. This post has been edited by panasonic88: Sep 20 2011, 01:12 PM |
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Sep 20 2011, 02:03 PM) My holdings that didn't drop much instead gain is BERNAS, TM, MAXIS (mantain), CMMT and SUNREIT. u don't plan to reduce your exposure for those who have gain during this period?Worst affected is SPSETIA for the past weeks and YTLPOWR which is going downhill since early of the year. Genting paper lose is near to 6% at the moment with my ABP at 10.04. Thankfully I have took profit on SUPERMX 7 weeks ago when it was trading at 3.74. |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 01:07 PM) Pbbank doesn't fall as much as the others. (approx -8% only) Hlbank should rest for a few years until QLC goes shopping again... HLFG/HLB DY sucks =/However, Pbbank doesn't cheong like other banks neither when market was bullish. Try comparing HLFG & PBBANK, then you'll know who is the most resilience. be cautious with Maybulk.. safer to buy if it's below NAV... -- Plz let Greece default.. dont give them the 8B. Even if they are given the 8B bail out money, they will come back in December and ask for more. Mkt will fall and the whole default issue will come back and haunt the world.. This post has been edited by mopster: Sep 20 2011, 01:18 PM |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 20 2011, 01:12 PM) Hlbank should rest for a few years until QLC goes shopping again... HLFG/HLB DY sucks =/ In this complicated financial/economics worlds it's the game play by the super duper cash rich financialsinstitutions maybe they will pass the 8B in return they will have few more months to strategize their move to earn even more than 8B, this is very possible if not y they still wanna bail them out since they know they cannot bail them forever? Now is greece only, who knows italy was next? Follow by portugal? Yeah cash is always the king but our cash is no match them only one country can come out and said they are cash rich! It's China be cautious with Maybulk.. safer to buy if it's below NAV... -- Plz let Greece default.. dont give them the 8B. Even if they are given the 8B bail out money, they will come back in December and ask for more. Mkt will fall and the whole default issue will come back and haunt the world.. |
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BUY BUY BUY
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QUOTE(Buy @ Sell @ Sep 20 2011, 10:27 AM) Put warrant is good when market drop... attractive put warrant, pchem-ha, mhb-ha, drbhcom-ha.. put warrants in our market are all trading at very high premium (avg 40-50%) with less than 6 months expiry date, which make them not so attractive. |
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Today I am very efficient at work
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I wonder is something cooking for PMIND?
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QUOTE(flamestudio @ Sep 20 2011, 02:14 PM) cooked, served, dined, now waiting to XXXX QUOTE UNCONDITIONAL TAKE-OVER OFFER BY PM SECURITIES SDN BHD ON BEHALF OF SOO LAY HOLDINGS SDN BHD, NORCROSS LIMITED AND CHERUBIM INVESTMENT (HK) LIMITED (COLLECTIVELY REFERRED TO AS THE “JOINT OFFERORS”) TO ACQUIRE ALL THE REMAINING ORDINARY SHARES OF RM0.05 EACH IN PMI (“PMI SHARES”) NOT ALREADY HELD BY THE JOINT OFFERORS (“OFFER SHARES”) FOR A CASH CONSIDERATION OF RM0.045 PER OFFER SHARE. |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:10 PM) I want to do quick analysis on my holdings. See which one is the most resilience & with bullet-proof vest on... Beside reits, my best performers are maybank and drbhcom. Do you guys have any counter that doesn't drop much since early Aug till now? I can think of is Reits nia. And worst are mudajya, masterskills, perisai, muhibah, sunway, spsetia, gamuda. same as mopster, if hit 1300, i am also dead already. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 20 2011, 02:21 PM |
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The project was launched via Facebook last Wednesday, according to Performance Management and Delivery Unit (Pemandu) director of communications content and infrastructure, business services National Key Economic Area (NKEA), Dr Fadhlullah Suhaimi Abdul Malek. It already has 3,050 subscriber signed up for the free email service. This project is perceived to be the lifesaver for ACE Market-listed Tricubes Bhd, which has been categorised as Guidance Note 3 (GN3) and is due to submit its regularisation plan by the end of next month. In its regular update to Bursa Malaysia, the IT-based company said it is currently reviewing “various options to meet its obligations under GN3 with its sponsor and targets to submit its regularisation plan by the submission deadline. According to Fadhlullah, the project has been delayed because Tricubes has worked in parallel to provide “value-added services”. He disclosed that people who subscribed to the email service would also have a means of utilising their value-added services such as bill payments. “Tricubes has assured me that it will be holding a media session sometime in late September,” Fadhlullah told The Edge Financial Daily, saying that he had been briefed on the progress of the project last week. “They are moving not as fast as one would want them to, but they are moving. And every single ringgit put into this project is their own money,” he stressed. To recap, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak announced that Tricubes was awarded the 1Malaysia email project in April. The project has been labelled as being under the purview of the Economic Transformation Programme (ETP). The email project could generate a gross national income of RM39 million by 2015 by Tricubes’ RM50 million investment over the next 10 years. Tricubes CEO Khairun Zainal Mokhtar earlier said the 1Malaysia email project was a “lifeline” thrown to the company. The project will be the core part of Tricubes’ regularisation plan. The company has targeted about 5.4 million subscribers by year-end. The government has set a KPI (key performance indicator) of a 50% take-up rate for those above 18 years old by 2012 and 100% by 2015. The 1Malaysia email address will then be the digital channel for the government-linked organisations to communicate with the public. There are no charges for the public to open an email account. The proposed business model is to charge the government bodies that want to send their correspondence to the 1Malaysia email addresses. The charges are up to 50 sen every mail being sent. However, Khairun did not respond to The Edge Financial Daily’s enquires on the updates on the company’s regularisation plan and which government-linked organisations that Tricubes is currently in talks with for the deployment of its email service. Dr Fadhlullah said the unique selling proposition here, which seems to have been overlooked by all the local pundits, is that the myemail will have a validated database. “When you use one of the free email services such as Gmail or Yahoo, there is no way of knowing that you are who you say you are. With this service, you have been verified. And what’s more, it’s still free.” Commenting on the controversy that has surrounded this project since it was launched, Fadhlullah said it is up to Tricubes to do a better job in clarifying the situation. “I told him (Khairun) that now it’s up on Facebook, he has to be ready for people commenting on it, and needs to respond as quickly as possible. We said, don’t wait till the end of the day because negativity could have built up by then.” Tricubes’ 70%-owned unit TricubesNCR JV Sdn Bhd has recently bagged a one-year RM4.4 million contract from the Ministry of Home Affairs in relation to a project for the Malaysian police. The company expects the contract to start contributing in FY12 ending March 31. Tricubes incurred a net loss of RM1.19 million or 0.89 sen per share for 1QFY12 ended June 30 compared with RM485,000 or 0.34 loss per share in the previous corresponding period. |
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Ringgit down on Europe debt crisis impact fears By CHOONG EN HAN PETALING JAYA: The ringgit slumped to its lowest range against the US dollar this year, as a combination of external headwinds in the eurozone and the United States continue to weigh in on Asian currencies across the board. The ringgit weakened 1.09% to 3.1157 against the US dollar from 3.0820 last Friday as investors fled emerging markets on fears that the contagion risk of Europe's sovereign debt crisis might slow global economic growth and hurt the economies of export-based developing countries. The local unit had lost 1.98% of its value from a week ago. Regional currencies were broadly lower with the rupiah leading the pack, with a 1.02% decline. Similarly, it was 2.58% higher a week ago. Hong Kong-based Societe Generale fixed-income strategist Chong Wee-Khoon said Asian currencies continued their weakening move against the US dollar yesterday on concerns over global uncertainty and capital flights out of Asia. “The weakening move started last week when the contagion fears finally spread to the Asia foreign exchange and local bonds market. Previously, the equity outflows seen in Asian had been recycled back into Asia bonds and foreign exchange. Such move (weak Asia foreign exchange) might continue as long as global uncertainty persist,” he said. All eyes would be on the next Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) meeting later this week, he said, adding that the near-term outlook was bearish for Asian currencies. The two-day extraordinary FOMC meeting would be the most important event of the week as the Fed decides on the direction of the US monetary policy amid a staggering global economy that is slowly moving into stagnation. “The ringgit has moved from 2.96 in early September, broken 200-day moving average at 3.03 and spiked to 3.11 in the last two weeks. The risk is for the ringgit to test previous highs of 3.16. Longer term, we like the ringgit on domestic fundamentals, but it is hard to fight the near-term upside move driven by lack of market confidence rather than a deterioration of Asian economies,” Chong said. However, he said, the contagion had started a while ago in the equity markets but the local bond market had been relatively immune as investors sought yield enhancement and also the benefit of currency appreciation. “With uncertainty accelerated in recent weeks, the markets have taken profit for fear to be the last one out,” he said. According to Chong, the five-year MGS yield on Friday had gone from 3.19% to 3.48% in one week, and the spread between the five-year MGS and US Treasuries was now at 260 basis points (MGS 260bp higher) and it was the highest since March 2009 (317bp recorded). He said there had been a sell-down in the Indonesia and Thai bond markets as well. CIMB currency strategist Suresh Kumar Ramanathan said the external factors had stepped up the global risk aversion and the moves of central banks closely mirrored what had happened back in 2008. “In the past two weeks, the markets still believed that there was still growth in the emerging markets. However, things have not been improving and external headwinds are eroding confidence,” he said. He said the concern was still on mature developed money markets where their central banks were closer to easing monetary policy to boost liquidity, and the next action of easing rates. Meanwhile, Tan Chee Wee, head of fixed-income research at Maybank Investment Bank Bhd, said there had been three days of sell-off in the bond market last week. “I would say it is more of profit taking rather than economic worries as there have been three months of rally and the yield is already looking flat,” he said, adding that the sell-off was more towards domestic players relinquishing their positions, and while there were foreign players selling, there were also foreign players buying. |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 20 2011, 02:18 PM) According to the detail of the offer, the HK comp acquired 1,686,000 unit of shares only. But 7,716,900 unit of shares(from the buying up perspective) has been transacted. Does it means when other ppl saw the shares are being bought in big lots and they followed and the 6mil unit of shares are bought by the public? |
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pchem is moving backwards to its ipo price.
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all GLC stocks take turn to fall..
1st = MISC ..long time ago 2nd = Tenaga & CIMB 3rd = UEMland 4th = MRCB 5th = SIME 6th = PCHEM.. so wat is next?? |
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Glomac Q should out soon, maybe tomoro like follow last year's date. Seems like everyday got shares added into treasuries. Might be good to put it into watch-list first since sifus say no to property stock during this period.
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Gone are the days where selling biscuit can reach rm100 per share..
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QUOTE(othme @ Sep 20 2011, 03:38 PM) QUOTE(simonc @ Sep 20 2011, 03:46 PM) Does this indicate election is near?This post has been edited by kalandra: Sep 20 2011, 03:49 PM |
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QUOTE(simonc @ Sep 20 2011, 03:37 PM) Take a snapshot. Imagine u sold all. Actually it's quite simple. Before you started investing stock market, what made you want to invest instead of buying Macbook.Think of a toy you want to buy, Macbook perhaps. Check again 2-4 weeks later. See whether you should have bought a Macbook I believe most of us think...ok 1. Buy Macbook. Let's say Rm 8k. After 4-5 yrs, model obsoleted. Your hand gatal and want to change a new one. Sell as 2nd hand if u r lucky at Rm1k. You lost Rm7k. 2. Buy stock. U hv Rm8k. U got lucky, price increase. Ur Rm8k might increase to Rm16k. Yahoo. Worst case scenario, market drop like now. U lost 50% capital, left only Rm4k. U r swearing that u shud hv bought Macbook but u still hv Rm4k. So...Investing in stock, at least u hv chance to win. Buy Macbook, sure rugi This post has been edited by othme: Sep 20 2011, 03:54 PM |
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QUOTE(simonc @ Sep 20 2011, 03:46 PM) I want to puke looking at angmoh markets... Green after Italy downgrade.. Dont u wish Greece default ? Global mkts will rally big time!!! --------- Dielog broke below 200SMA... starting of a downtrend i guess.. i dun think the RI will be successful anymore unless the Boss and EPF make public statements that they will fully subscribe the RI. |
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he is trying to sapu all 0.275 now.... omg... cheap stock no more d.... salary coming out soon.. want to reload more also no chance... |
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QUOTE(othme @ Sep 20 2011, 03:51 PM) Actually it's quite simple. Before you started investing stock market, what made you want to invest instead of buying Macbook. Sure rugi but... sure enjoy? I believe most of us think...ok 1. Buy Macbook. Let's say Rm 8k. After 4-5 yrs, model obsoleted. Your hand gatal and want to change a new one. Sell as 2nd hand if u r lucky at Rm1k. You lost Rm7k. 2. Buy stock. U hv Rm8k. U got lucky, price increase. Ur Rm8k might increase to Rm16k. Yahoo. Worst case scenario, market drop like now. U lost 50% capital, left only Rm4k. U r swearing that u shud hv bought Macbook but u still hv Rm4k. So...Investing in stock, at least u hv chance to win. Buy Macbook, sure rugi Of course, buying the macbook thingy only made sense if the person Cut Loss. So, Cut Loss = Rugi. Since rugi, might as well have a Macbook to enjoy This post has been edited by simonc: Sep 20 2011, 04:02 PM |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 20 2011, 03:53 PM) I want to puke looking at angmoh markets... Green after Italy downgrade.. Dont u wish Greece default ? Global mkts will rally big time!!! good good! let it default and then market recover gao gao!!! then all the recent sellers regret!!! This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 20 2011, 04:04 PM |
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QUOTE(simonc @ Sep 20 2011, 04:00 PM) Sure rugi but... sure enjoy? Exactly but problem is, nobody knows the future....well especially retail investors like us.Of course, buying the macbook thingy only made sense if the person Cut Loss. So, Cut Loss = Rugi. Since rugi, might as well have a Macbook to enjoy We invest because we hope our money will grow. Buy Macbook, can enjoy but at the end. More junk at home and less cash left also |
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QUOTE(othme @ Sep 20 2011, 03:51 PM) Actually it's quite simple. Before you started investing stock market, what made you want to invest instead of buying Macbook. I got a win-win solution.I believe most of us think...ok 1. Buy Macbook. Let's say Rm 8k. After 4-5 yrs, model obsoleted. Your hand gatal and want to change a new one. Sell as 2nd hand if u r lucky at Rm1k. You lost Rm7k. 2. Buy stock. U hv Rm8k. U got lucky, price increase. Ur Rm8k might increase to Rm16k. Yahoo. Worst case scenario, market drop like now. U lost 50% capital, left only Rm4k. U r swearing that u shud hv bought Macbook but u still hv Rm4k. So...Investing in stock, at least u hv chance to win. Buy Macbook, sure rugi Use 2k to buy Dell, good enough to use. The rest 6k buying 6% dividend stocks. Got laptop, Happy. While everyday wake up time, you see Rm1 pop up in your eye. Happy. This post has been edited by cherroy: Sep 20 2011, 04:05 PM |
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smartag year low how muuch wor???
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 20 2011, 04:04 PM) I got a win-win solution. Youngsters nowadays go after branding. Use 2k to buy Dell, good enough to use. The rest 6k buying 6% dividend stocks. Got laptop, Happy. While everyday wake up time, you see Rm1 pop up in your eye. Happy. Spend first, invest p/s: I don't own a laptop, I pun tarak iPad lo. |
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any comment about SUNWAY stock? since it dropped so low since ipo. is it a good buy?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 20 2011, 04:04 PM) I got a win-win solution. Yes, u r right but problem is, youngster today, they dare not show their Dell when all their friends are using Iphone, Macbook etc la. Use 2k to buy Dell, good enough to use. The rest 6k buying 6% dividend stocks. Got laptop, Happy. While everyday wake up time, you see Rm1 pop up in your eye. Happy. Invest?...It's for old ppl only |
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QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Sep 20 2011, 04:13 PM) I'm a Sunway holder.. hate to say this... but it's hit by less optimistic properties sales, new construction orders, lack of dividend policy.. valuation wise it can definitely go cheaper... now is about fair with a little discount.. u want a good deal ? maybe errr <Rm1.50 ? (hentam figure) oh Gosh.. why am I still holding ? Jeff!! dont dissappoint us minor shareholders >_<" |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 04:16 PM) ur bf is one of the youngster who invested in alot of gadget? hahahhaa i love the quote.. that's the reason i don't have gf now... This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: Sep 20 2011, 04:20 PM |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 04:09 PM) Youngsters nowadays go after branding. Nowadays so much of EPP plan for 12/24 months, it does make sense household debt going up and upSpend first, invest p/s: I don't own a laptop, I pun tarak iPad lo. Imagine commitment of car instalment, phone bill, EPP plan, utilities and rental, add up all is a big snowball every month And some of my friend start to living in this kind of luxury life p/s: i saw u ada ipon and ipad QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 20 2011, 04:13 PM) This post has been edited by yhtan: Sep 20 2011, 04:21 PM |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 20 2011, 04:19 PM) I'm a Sunway holder.. hate to say this... but it's hit by less optimistic properties sales, new construction orders, lack of dividend policy.. valuation wise it can definitely go cheaper... now is about fair with a little discount.. sunway build RM1.5 million a piece house wor... and in this economic downtown u want a good deal ? maybe errr <Rm1.50 ? (hentam figure) oh Gosh.. why am I still holding ? Jeff!! dont dissappoint us minor shareholders >_<" |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 20 2011, 04:19 PM) I'm a Sunway holder.. hate to say this... but it's hit by less optimistic properties sales, new construction orders, lack of dividend policy.. valuation wise it can definitely go cheaper... now is about fair with a little discount.. moppy, nowadays I avoid counter with bonus issues. u want a good deal ? maybe errr <Rm1.50 ? (hentam figure) oh Gosh.. why am I still holding ? Jeff!! dont dissappoint us minor shareholders >_<" Which is also part of the reason why I sold Mflour, no doubt it is an essential thing in our daily life, but I hate seeing the price being beaten down due to post-BI syndrome. I bet those who bought Paramon before the bonus issue would agree with me. |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 20 2011, 04:21 PM) lol... got upmarket buyers one~~~me ikan bilis cannot sure cannot afford lar.. but i know ppl with 2-3 units of sunway vivaldi QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 04:22 PM) moppy, nowadays I avoid counter with bonus issues. yah... only counters that did BI in 2010 did well.. all 2011 BI went holland~~ Which is also part of the reason why I sold Mflour, no doubt it is an essential thing in our daily life, but I hate seeing the price being beaten down due to post-BI syndrome. I bet those who bought Paramon before the bonus issue would agree with me. This post has been edited by mopster: Sep 20 2011, 04:26 PM |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 20 2011, 04:19 PM) I'm a Sunway holder.. hate to say this... but it's hit by less optimistic properties sales, new construction orders, lack of dividend policy.. valuation wise it can definitely go cheaper... now is about fair with a little discount.. that bad meh? it's 2.5 billion company trading at PE 7x, quite cheap isn't it? u want a good deal ? maybe errr <Rm1.50 ? (hentam figure) oh Gosh.. why am I still holding ? Jeff!! dont dissappoint us minor shareholders >_<" i think it's more defensive than pure property company since it's also a large construction company, so that will benefit from ETP. besides, its exposure in china and singapore can grow good fruits in long term....yeah, long term especially china. i also hated that it doesn't come out divvi policy. although it's not fair to judge that since most property/construction companies don't have such policy either. Added on September 20, 2011, 4:26 pm QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 20 2011, 04:22 PM) you are "early cooked" (早熟) This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 20 2011, 04:26 PM |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 20 2011, 04:23 PM) lol... got upmarket buyers one~~~ We always hear uncle aunties say. Rich get richer, poor get poorer.me ikan bilis cannot sure cannot afford lar.. but i know ppl with 2-3 units of sunway vivaldi So still got buyers for those expensive hse. But low cost apartment, might get worse. This happens in Penang now also. |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 20 2011, 04:19 PM) I'm a Sunway holder.. hate to say this... but it's hit by less optimistic properties sales, new construction orders, lack of dividend policy.. valuation wise it can definitely go cheaper... now is about fair with a little discount.. I live at sunway and i see alot of construction is building up, and jeffrey cheah is a good corporate leader.u want a good deal ? maybe errr <Rm1.50 ? (hentam figure) oh Gosh.. why am I still holding ? Jeff!! dont dissappoint us minor shareholders >_<" i just dono what price is fair. i think it sure will pick up in the future.. hehe |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 04:22 PM) moppy, nowadays I avoid counter with bonus issues. me too. now very scare BI, RI....whatever I! Which is also part of the reason why I sold Mflour, no doubt it is an essential thing in our daily life, but I hate seeing the price being beaten down due to post-BI syndrome. I bet those who bought Paramon before the bonus issue would agree with me. Added on September 20, 2011, 4:29 pm QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Sep 20 2011, 04:27 PM) I live at sunway and i see alot of construction is building up, and jeffrey cheah is a good corporate leader. directors has been buying millions recently. they think it's cheap gua, but market think it's expensive. i just dono what price is fair. i think it sure will pick up in the future.. hehe This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 20 2011, 04:29 PM |
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[quote=yok70,Sep 20 2011, 04:28 PM]
me too. now very scare BI, RI....whatever I! Added on September 20, 2011, 4:29 pm what about Iphone, Imac, Ipod, Ipad, or even Iron.....?? |
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QUOTE(noswear @ Sep 20 2011, 04:30 PM) the 'I' in front one is ok, just not the behind one. Added on September 20, 2011, 4:32 pmEuro market all green, US future all green. Asian mostly green. As usual, we are "uncertainly" red. Added on September 20, 2011, 4:34 pmsurprisingly, megb got quite some buying strength today. RHB paper said divvi forecast 8%. maybe they buy for divvi sake? This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 20 2011, 04:34 PM |
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[quote=noswear,Sep 20 2011, 04:30 PM]
[quote=yok70,Sep 20 2011, 04:28 PM] me too. now very scare BI, RI....whatever I! Added on September 20, 2011, 4:29 pm what about Iphone, Imac, Ipod, Ipad, or even Iron.....?? [/quote] Young ppl want thing all start with 'I'. Only thing old ppl use start with 'I' is 'ICU' nia |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 20 2011, 04:25 PM) that bad meh? it's 2.5 billion company trading at PE 7x, quite cheap isn't it? have to price in all the Europe, US, circus show la...i think it's more defensive than pure property company since it's also a large construction company, so that will benefit from ETP. besides, its exposure in china and singapore can grow good fruits in long term....yeah, long term especially china. i also hated that it doesn't come out divvi policy. although it's not fair to judge that since most property/construction companies don't have such policy either. FA wise, Sunway is ok. Although there's no divvy policy, but i believe there should be at least 2%/3% from him.. (a bit chinaman style) Jeff shared his experience and what he'd been through since he started his mining company during Suncity AGM. He sounds like a genuine businessman to me. (hope he is not a wolf in sheep skin.. Currently, Jeff holds > 45% of Sunway shares, Singapore GIC another 12.5%.. together already 57.5%. He bought more from open mkt recently instead of disposing. All these little factors gave me confidence and I decided to hold.. anything good or bad to share ? This post has been edited by mopster: Sep 20 2011, 04:41 PM |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 04:22 PM) moppy, nowadays I avoid counter with bonus issues. I raise my legs & toes to support this statement ! Which is also part of the reason why I sold Mflour, no doubt it is an essential thing in our daily life, but I hate seeing the price being beaten down due to post-BI syndrome. I bet those who bought Paramon before the bonus issue would agree with me. |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 20 2011, 04:39 PM) have to price in all the Europe, US, circus show la... you have not experience the worse matter when SunCity having financial difficulties during 97/98, my parent are proud holding it from 90's till nowFA wise, Sunway is ok. Although there's no divvy policy, but i believe there should be at least 2%/3% from him.. (a bit chinaman style) Jeff shared his experience and what he'd been through since he started his mining company during Suncity AGM. He sounds like a genuine businessman to me. (hope he is not a wolf in sheep skin.. Currently, Jeff holds > 45% of Sunway shares, Singapore GIC another 12.5%.. together already 57.5%. He bought more from open mkt recently instead of disposing. All these little factors gave me confidence and I decided to hold.. anything good or bad to share ? Like Pana signature, be patient p/s : did Jeff share his experience how Singapore GIC help him? i'm sure he did mention about it The recent article interview in SinChew last few weeks, during 97/98, his company facing financial difficulties and search for white knight to rescue him. He knock the door of EPF and Khazanah but they decline to help him. End up Singaporean is the one who help him sail through This post has been edited by yhtan: Sep 20 2011, 04:50 PM |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 20 2011, 04:44 PM) you have not experience the worse matter when SunCity having financial difficulties during 97/98, my parent are proud holding it from 90's till now yah yah~~ Jeff also mentioned 97/98.. Sunway is him, he is sunway.. I believe he will take care of it.. Like Pana signature, be patient |
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Edit: OMG somebody just sapu 10,000 just as I was finished typing. And then another 10,000 queue again. hahahahaha. If dun sell today, then tomorrow will get a lower price. So the seller desparate to sell. This post has been edited by simplesmile: Sep 20 2011, 04:55 PM |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 04:22 PM) moppy, nowadays I avoid counter with bonus issues. I don't really agree with this. Those suffer high price is because they buy after the BI announced, else you should be making plenty of money at least, especially for those 1:1 bonus. Usually about 100% profit if sell the BI + original shares.Which is also part of the reason why I sold Mflour, no doubt it is an essential thing in our daily life, but I hate seeing the price being beaten down due to post-BI syndrome. I bet those who bought Paramon before the bonus issue would agree with me. |
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 20 2011, 05:05 PM) as far as i remember, it felt like I WAN MORE!!! kind of feeling. Miss that so much. Added on September 20, 2011, 5:10 pm QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Sep 20 2011, 05:08 PM) what is "loose change"? i just calculated that out by total volume at 78% buy rate, with minimum low lot trading (only 4%). This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 20 2011, 05:11 PM |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:05 PM) refresh your memory a bit . lol . http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...49&sec=business KUALA LUMPUR: Masterskill Education Group Bhd group chief executive officer Datuk Seri Edmund Santhara is considering to up his stake in the group. ...anything below RM2 doesn't justify keeping the company listed... but but but " NO ACTION , ALL TALK " . |
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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:11 PM) refresh your memory a bit . lol . you are absolutely right! http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...49&sec=business KUALA LUMPUR: Masterskill Education Group Bhd group chief executive officer Datuk Seri Edmund Santhara is considering to up his stake in the group. ...anything below RM2 doesn't justify keeping the company listed... but but but " NO ACTION , ALL TALK " . |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:27 PM) if, there will not be global recession as that singapore guy said. Added on September 20, 2011, 5:29 pm QUOTE(simplesmile @ Sep 20 2011, 05:25 PM) No. They only spent brokerage, stamp duty and clearing fee. I see. The money they used to buy will go back to themselves, if they are selling from right pocket to the left pocket. so this could be a trading buy if they really continue to do the trick. as today they didn't push up the price but just accumulating, there could be more shows in later days. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 20 2011, 05:30 PM |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:28 PM) if, there will not be global recession as that singapore guy said. Nowadays you bet either side also got 50% strike chance, if you say nothing then you have no chance to get correct...Added on September 20, 2011, 5:29 pm I see. so this could be a trading buy if they really continue to do the trick. as today they didn't push up the price but just accumulating, there could be more shows in later days. Place your bet now... |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:28 PM) if, there will not be global recession as that singapore guy said. What I mean is, they could be trying to trick the ikan bilis into thinking that there is strong support at 1.12, when in fact it is themselves buying their own shares.Added on September 20, 2011, 5:29 pm I see. so this could be a trading buy if they really continue to do the trick. as today they didn't push up the price but just accumulating, there could be more shows in later days. |
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Sep 20 2011, 05:38 PM) What I mean is, they could be trying to trick the ikan bilis into thinking that there is strong support at 1.12, when in fact it is themselves buying their own shares. correct. just that since buying rate is about 80%, so they need to push it up further (at least a bit) in order to make profit in later days.anyway, i'm just discussing here, not a buy recommendation. i really hate the big liar management of masterskills. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 20 2011, 05:45 PM |
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QUOTE(htt @ Sep 20 2011, 05:33 PM) Nowadays you bet either side also got 50% strike chance, if you say nothing then you have no chance to get correct... legal gambling for halal+non-halal, we called it "sports" in malaysia. Place your bet now... Added on September 20, 2011, 5:47 pm QUOTE(Superman7 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:45 PM) still mild green so far. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 20 2011, 05:47 PM |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:47 PM) legal gambling for halal+non-halal, we called it "sports" in malaysia. what happenned? why is everybody talking about gambling pulak all of a sudden? |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Sep 20 2011, 05:57 PM) That might be right bet also, depending on your entry and exit point... now chocolate... Life is like a box of chocolate, you will never know which one inside is the rotten until you sunk your teeth into it Added on September 20, 2011, 6:01 pm QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:59 PM) i disagree unless u trade with no plans.....err blindly....This post has been edited by nasni: Sep 20 2011, 06:01 PM |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE SINGAPORE, Sept 20 — Malaysia’s national power utility Tenaga Nasional bought 105,000 tonnes of October-delivery fuel oil and is expected to continue purchasing steady volumes until next year, industry sources said today. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...inue-till-2012/ beware punters on TNB.. financial surely will not be pretty for the next coming years.. Added on September 20, 2011, 6:02 pm QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:59 PM) nola.. you'll be surprise the number of long term investors in this forum This post has been edited by Superman7: Sep 20 2011, 06:03 PM |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Sep 20 2011, 06:02 PM) http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...inue-till-2012/ do we need to worried tariff hike again? beware punters on TNB.. financial surely will not be pretty for the next coming years.. Added on September 20, 2011, 6:02 pm nola.. you'll be surprise the number of long term investors in this forum |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Sep 20 2011, 06:02 PM) http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...inue-till-2012/ not only that, an Indon coal suplier told that they cud not keep up with increase demand for coal frm TNB too.beware punters on TNB.. financial surely will not be pretty for the next coming years.. Added on September 20, 2011, 6:02 pm nola.. you'll be surprise the number of long term investors in this forum |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:05 PM
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Sep 20 2011, 06:05 PM
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german reacts strongly on the upside despite Italy's rating being downgraded by S&P this morning. cannot be this reason. I think they are expecting an outcome from the two-days meeting. They just lost confident on the German's Chancellor. Market is eyeing on US again.
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Sep 20 2011, 06:05 PM
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Sep 20 2011, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Sep 20 2011, 06:02 PM) http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...inue-till-2012/ +1 likebeware punters on TNB.. financial surely will not be pretty for the next coming years.. Added on September 20, 2011, 6:02 pm nola.. you'll be surprise the number of long term investors in this forum +2 like to being forced long term investors |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:07 PM
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Sep 20 2011, 06:08 PM
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Sep 20 2011, 06:10 PM
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Sep 20 2011, 06:11 PM
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Sep 20 2011, 06:12 PM
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we always have comparison of petrol prices with the regional countries..
Do we actually have comparison of electricity charges with the regional countries? |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Sep 20 2011, 06:12 PM) we always have comparison of petrol prices with the regional countries.. i don't think so, same as pay TV charges comparison,Do we actually have comparison of electricity charges with the regional countries? income comparison??? to reflect our spending capability.... |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Sep 20 2011, 07:02 PM) http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...inue-till-2012/ beware punters on TNB.. financial surely will not be pretty for the next coming years.. Added on September 20, 2011, 6:02 pm nola.. you'll be surprise the number of long term investors in this forum |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Sep 20 2011, 06:08 PM) who does'nt sweat? 7% for their hike = around 20% show on my bills!!! this is reality and i believe most if u were same as mine ..... TNB shares wise is monopoly biz WB facourite but if in malaise then have to think it was glc and bla bla bla ...... i dun like monopoly biz control by GLC ...... no reason given. |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:19 PM
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http://www.freemalaysiakini.com/?p=11161 http://www.freemalaysiakini.com/?p=11163 This post has been edited by monkeyking: Sep 20 2011, 06:22 PM |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Sep 20 2011, 06:17 PM) who does'nt sweat? i fret alot in this forum at last hike..... 7% for their hike = around 20% show on my bills!!! this is reality and i believe most if u were same as mine ..... TNB shares wise is monopoly biz WB facourite but if in malaise then have to think it was glc and bla bla bla ...... i dun like monopoly biz control by GLC ...... no reason given. |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:30 PM
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Sep 20 2011, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 20 2011, 06:19 PM) http://www.freemalaysiakini.com/?p=11161 http://www.freemalaysiakini.com/?p=11163 that's what they r good at,.... instead of guiding/manage this country to be regionally competitive... we r loosing to our Asean nieghbors... soon we might export maids to Indon instead..... |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:40 PM
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woohoo sapind ended unmoved. good quarterly please.
but paramon |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 20 2011, 06:16 PM) whutever their moves have ulterior motives...just look with the abolishment of u know what recently.... i don' t trust them to manage the future..... |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 20 2011, 06:16 PM) Worst part I cannot tahan him now is, he is so lan si. He always says, during my time, this kind of issues never happen. Of course la, you give ur cronies makan 9 9. Who would against u? They sure wallop u la if u didn't feed them during ur tenure. wtf. This post has been edited by othme: Sep 20 2011, 06:50 PM |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 20 2011, 07:19 PM) .This post has been edited by primepeng: Sep 20 2011, 07:25 PM |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(othme @ Sep 20 2011, 06:49 PM) Yes, he's the King of Corruption. Conruption situation worsen since he became PM. Worst part I cannot tahan him now is, he is so lan si. He always says, during my time, this kind of issues never happen. Of course la, you give ur cronies makan 9 9. Who would against u? They sure wallop u la if u didn't feed them during ur tenure. wtf. history is repeating itself albeit in a different manner with the current ruling... nuthin new... This post has been edited by nasni: Sep 20 2011, 06:57 PM |
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Sep 20 2011, 07:01 PM
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Sep 20 2011, 07:12 PM
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Sep 20 2011, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:05 PM) I'm buying now because all seems pretty bearish including those bozos local analysts whom were all singingla la tunes just back before Raya that KLCI will see 1600 after Raya.. what a joke. This downturn will teach them a hard lesson. |
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Sep 20 2011, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Sep 20 2011, 07:25 PM) I'm buying now because all seems pretty bearish including those bozos local analysts whom were all singing Even Dali is not too happy about the current selldown of the GLCs..la la tunes just back before Raya that KLCI will see 1600 after Raya.. what a joke. This downturn will teach them a hard lesson. |
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Sep 20 2011, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Sep 20 2011, 07:25 PM) I'm buying now because all seems pretty bearish including those bozos local analysts whom were all singing Teach them? Heh I think they are the ones expecting but feeding us bullshit to keep the hype up for them to sell off.la la tunes just back before Raya that KLCI will see 1600 after Raya.. what a joke. This downturn will teach them a hard lesson. |
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Sep 20 2011, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Sep 20 2011, 08:47 PM) Teach them? Heh I think they are the ones expecting but feeding us bullshit to keep the hype up for them to sell off. Bingo ! Seriously, there is no reason for them to be so kind to give us frank and sincere advice. If we make profit, they cannot cari makan also. Parts of their profit is from retailers like us. So they say, you die and your money come to me. |
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Sep 20 2011, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 20 2011, 06:19 PM) I am surprised at the IQ of journalists writing such reports and people who believe them... 1. If you read the article - this lady who got PR .. was allegedly told that PR is gifted and she should vote for ruling party ... now .. PR's are not eligible to vote .. 2. This was supposedly an email exchange interview - wow .. shocking .. as I know that interviews are not conducted via email and even if so .. how can the lady forget any details when this was captured in email .. 3. On the Bangladesh article - that is the height of being ridiculous - three main points that this is a planted story: a. The English sentences written seem to have been written by someone who did not have time to construct proper English sentences b. This is an NGO website which has no news reports on the whole website, let alone such a news item c. Lastly, if you try to find the news through the main page of the website - you simply can't. Next time please verify before believing such rubbish. |
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Sep 20 2011, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(f3rrarilover @ Sep 20 2011, 09:11 PM) I am surprised at the IQ of journalists writing such reports and people who believe them... Things about BN bad things can be unbelievable. MACC, Saiful, PKFZ etc is all unbelievable but it's true. Only BN and mass media cannot be trusted.1. If you read the article - this lady who got PR .. was allegedly told that PR is gifted and she should vote for ruling party ... now .. PR's are not eligible to vote .. 2. This was supposedly an email exchange interview - wow .. shocking .. as I know that interviews are not conducted via email and even if so .. how can the lady forget any details when this was captured in email .. 3. On the Bangladesh article - that is the height of being ridiculous - three main points that this is a planted story: a. The English sentences written seem to have been written by someone who did not have time to construct proper English sentences b. This is an NGO website which has no news reports on the whole website, let alone such a news item c. Lastly, if you try to find the news through the main page of the website - you simply can't. Next time please verify before believing such rubbish. |
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Sep 20 2011, 09:26 PM
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News that I wished i never saw - IMF says there is 1 in 6 chance UK is in another recession. :S
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Sep 20 2011, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(f3rrarilover @ Sep 20 2011, 09:11 PM) I am surprised at the IQ of journalists writing such reports and people who believe them... For 3a, if it had bad english (which I don't notice), it not that surprising. We Malaysian made tons of English mistakes in our websites too.1. If you read the article - this lady who got PR .. was allegedly told that PR is gifted and she should vote for ruling party ... now .. PR's are not eligible to vote .. 2. This was supposedly an email exchange interview - wow .. shocking .. as I know that interviews are not conducted via email and even if so .. how can the lady forget any details when this was captured in email .. 3. On the Bangladesh article - that is the height of being ridiculous - three main points that this is a planted story: a. The English sentences written seem to have been written by someone who did not have time to construct proper English sentences b. This is an NGO website which has no news reports on the whole website, let alone such a news item c. Lastly, if you try to find the news through the main page of the website - you simply can't. Next time please verify before believing such rubbish. For 3c, I heard it been taken off. But there is a screenshot taken by someone. http://awesomescreenshot.com/0e2kjr11f |
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Sep 20 2011, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 20 2011, 09:26 PM) Things about BN bad things can be unbelievable. MACC, Saiful, PKFZ etc is all unbelievable but it's true. Only BN and mass media cannot be trusted. Look buddy - I am not saying A or B is fair .. I am only saying that we must not trust news blindly - with some verification you can know easily..If you noticed I did not talk about either of the topics you mentioned - so please do reply to my specific points that I made .. and am happy to be corrected |
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Sep 20 2011, 09:36 PM
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Sep 20 2011, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 20 2011, 09:26 PM) Things about BN bad things can be unbelievable. MACC, Saiful, PKFZ etc is all unbelievable but it's true. Only BN and mass media cannot be trusted. +1 I grew up in a small kampung when I was a small kid. I did see unbelieveable thing about our goment voting trick. If I tell this story with my broken English. Will it become just a fiction? Haiya...actually most of us already make up our mind who to vote at next GE. We don't need this story to decide our vote la. Fake or true, it's more like entertainment to me Please do not use any word to insult other's IQ etc. No good. |
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Sep 20 2011, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(kalandra @ Sep 20 2011, 09:33 PM) For 3a, if it had bad english (which I don't notice), it not that surprising. We Malaysian made tons of English mistakes in our websites too. for 3c, direct link was there and is there .. but again please tell me why would an NGO related website post any news let alone such a news? This NGO website has no other news .. surprising isn't it?For 3c, I heard it been taken off. But there is a screenshot taken by someone. http://awesomescreenshot.com/0e2kjr11f |
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Sep 20 2011, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(f3rrarilover @ Sep 20 2011, 09:36 PM) for 3c, direct link was there and is there .. but again please tell me why would an NGO related website post any news let alone such a news? This NGO website has no other news .. surprising isn't it? OT This is thread for stock market discussion. Nanti kena banned by moderator baru tahu! |
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