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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V98, Celebrating KLCI breach 13xx point

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post Sep 19 2011, 04:22 PM

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Another defensive play is to sell it at minor profit / break-even / minor losses and later when trend reverse only buy back.
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post Sep 19 2011, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy)
10 x cut loss 10%, habis liao... 

Buy A stock at Rm1.00, drop to Rm0.90, cut loss, loss Rm0.10
Buy B stock at Rm1.00, drop to Rm0.90, cut loss, loss another Rm0.10
Buy C stock at Rm2.00, drop to Rm1.80, cut loss, loss another Rm0.20.

Market rebound strongly, no stock in hand.... 
Net loss Rm0.40, earn nothing because all stocks cut loss... 
Can lower cut losses %, say 5%-7%.

Cannot be buy 10/10 stocks also a loser stocks kua biggrin.gif

Cut-losses has 'saved' me and my capital nod.gif

If I didn't cut losses quick, much capital trap inside now. But if cut losses, we can protect the capital first and after the storm has faded, then can buy back lower later.

But if losses too deep say 20% or more, then I guess no point cutting lioa.
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post Sep 19 2011, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 05:57 PM)
Some may say, don't play in bear market.
But when you know it is a bull market time, often it is too late.

Every technical rebound can mean a baby bull trend is born.

No one know it is an uptrend or technical rebound, until it is too late.

For eg. recently,
DJ has a nice surge from below 11000, to 11500, it is a uptrend, or start of uptrend?
or it is a technical rebound, before dipping back or even lower?

You want to see you a stock price which is RM2.00, but you bought at RM0.80 or even lower, then it is only achievable when you bought the stock in a bear market.

How people can buy PBB at RM0.88?
How people can buy Genting during 2008 at RM3.xx or Rm4.xx?

All comes from a down trend market, bear market.
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True, not easy to 'see' the TRUE reversal sign. Perhaps can use Bone's tactic, enter by stages using KLCI as benchmark.

One sifu say if use 200 SMA, might not have much meat when go it but its signal is stronger.

50days and 100days SMA crossing over signal is weaker but more meat.

QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 19 2011, 06:03 PM)
sry to hear that bro.. mind sharing what are the counters ?
my biggest losers are KianJoo and Fajar.. sad.gif
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Mine is old paramon. The moment I buy (bonus and split share time) never above my buy price once doh.gif

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post Sep 19 2011, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 06:23 PM)
Bottom fishing only right, if you fish the right fish or right fish pond, aka your targeted stock is right (fundamental good, solid) in the first place.

Bottom fishing can lead one lose pant one, if you fish at rubbish pond.

In a stock market exchange, you can have 1000 stocks, but the right fish can mean just a couple of ten or hundred stocks only.
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Yes agree, cannot simply tembak! biggrin.gif

So, the percentage to get the good one is only about 0.1%-10%. walau.
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post Sep 19 2011, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 20 2011, 12:01 AM)
lol... need to put a link to this post.. else the same question will pop out every now and then...
what happens when greece default.. how are we affected by greece... etc ...
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haha! Good suggestion.

btw, glomac quarter will be out soon. I same like last year, will be 21sep.

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post Sep 20 2011, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Sep 20 2011, 10:48 AM)
Yeah. I agreed, cannot hold one. When FF continue to dump more, PNB, EPF and ASB cannot do much also. Foreign fund is the key to drive up the economy, didn't we know this well? smile.gif
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andrew, u know where to get the daily statistic how many increase/decrease of FF, local institution and retailer?
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post Sep 20 2011, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Sep 20 2011, 11:26 AM)
may i ask is there any PARAMON holders here? are u guys/gals still holding your PARAMON shares? hmm.gif
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I have been holding. Any remedy to Paramon? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 20 2011, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Sep 20 2011, 12:00 PM)
i have received the divvi from PARAMON. dont u?  rclxms.gif
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Yes, in my pocket already yesterday, a bit of 'realized' money at least biggrin.gif
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post Sep 20 2011, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:25 PM)
get dividend and sell the stock. Wait for 1300 points  icon_question.gif
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dividend expired long time ago lo. yesterday is the dividend payment date.

QUOTE(ken_ng)
ya, the Dato' Teo Chiang Quan is acquiring bit by bit... i think one of the reasons for him to acquire the shares is to maintain the price. else it will be free fall if no buying support there...
Thankfully got owner and shareholders tahaning it.
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post Sep 20 2011, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Sep 20 2011, 12:30 PM)
Get 1 mil and standby smile.gif Good strategy smile.gif
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MYR or Rupiah? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 20 2011, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Sep 20 2011, 01:22 PM)
pana jiejie, is rubbish counter included in your question? if yes, then i would say INGENS  tongue.gif  lol... not moving at all  tongue.gif
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another one is FOCUS, steady as rock. In fact still can go up 1-2bid.
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post Sep 20 2011, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Sep 20 2011, 02:03 PM)
My holdings that didn't drop much instead gain is BERNAS, TM, MAXIS (mantain), CMMT and SUNREIT.

Worst affected is SPSETIA for the past weeks and YTLPOWR which is going downhill since early of the year. Genting paper lose is near to 6% at the moment with my ABP at 10.04.

Thankfully I have took profit on SUPERMX 7 weeks ago when it was trading at 3.74.
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u don't plan to reduce your exposure for those who have gain during this period?
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post Sep 20 2011, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(noswear @ Sep 20 2011, 03:43 PM)
all GLC stocks take turn to fall..

1st = MISC ..long time ago
2nd = Tenaga & CIMB
3rd = UEMland
4th = MRCB
5th = SIME
6th = PCHEM..

so wat is next??
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Good observation. I don't know which is GLC stocks but I notice that they are taking turn.
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post Sep 20 2011, 03:02 PM

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Glomac Q should out soon, maybe tomoro like follow last year's date. Seems like everyday got shares added into treasuries. Might be good to put it into watch-list first since sifus say no to property stock during this period.
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post Sep 20 2011, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(othme @ Sep 20 2011, 04:01 PM)
BAT becomes <RM 10.  brows.gif
Maxis becomes penny stock  tongue.gif
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no la, sifu said during bad times, ppl smoke more.
telco is defensive one. See these two fellow are in top gainers (i mean digi).

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post Sep 20 2011, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(flamestudio @ Sep 20 2011, 04:06 PM)
Hoho....

Then make sure you use more TAKASO....so the TAKASO share will go up...

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I think TAKASO is one of the scariest counters for this month. shocking.gif
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post Sep 20 2011, 06:40 PM

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woohoo sapind ended unmoved. good quarterly please.
but paramon doh.gif i think i will top up when reach RM1
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post Sep 20 2011, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(lch78 @ Sep 20 2011, 08:01 PM)
Hoping for another 14cent divvy?  brows.gif
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No la, big div come once in a blue moon only biggrin.gif
hopefully good quarterlies can support its price good enough during this stormy times.
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post Sep 20 2011, 11:42 PM

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Euro and US index green ... at the moment.
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post Sep 21 2011, 09:17 AM

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FOCUS broke its 3 months resistance. Aiya sold dy. Gonna choong technically i guess.
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