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 [Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V2, Car One Moment ,MPV The Next

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post Jun 8 2012, 10:53 PM

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Hey.. well, I did say I can't believe, so that means DON"T believe it. Hehehee
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post Jun 8 2012, 11:43 PM

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Hi guys, this is Kent Goh from XD-Autoparts. I would like to inform guys i'm selling Perodua genuine parts such as ATF, MTF, Engine Mounting, Absorber, Bushing, Tie Rod End, Sensor & etc, feel free to drop us an e-mail. Thanks.
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post Jun 11 2012, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(n8210 @ Jun 8 2012, 10:53 PM)
Hey.. well, I did say I can't believe, so that means DON"T believe it. Hehehee
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looks like you and I have pieces of junks that can kill people on the road... yours with a spitting spare tyre, mine with an almost stalling engine... mad.gif
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Some pics to share. This are the pics after the service done at a authorised service ctr in Jln Genting Klang last week.

I complain about the car jerking when I reversed or move foward. I told them it mustab the transmission problem.
Inform him the people complain in this thread and other forums that the rust on it due to the leakage from the battery.
I ask them to check it and replace the transmission / battery / whatever parts faulty.
Dump this trash car there for a few days and ask them to sent to HQ for inspection.

Do u what to know what the SA told me during my visit to collect the car?

NO PROBLEM, OK.. I asked twice.. same reply

I inspected my car conditions, the on changes I saw was the the pipes to the radiator changed (Sure tukar 1 because I received the love letter from the HQ like some of the alza owners here) and the part right under the battery which they just clean it up. (Refer to PIC7)

Changed the shitty brake pads and ask them to anti rust the undercarriage and engine part.

I start the car and put to reverse gear from P AND...YES! its the same result.

I was pissed off, but I didnt shoot a single complain about it. I KNOW that this isnt the FIRST time these clowns receive complain for this matter. What the point for me to get angry?

I wonder where the hell they ronda ronda with my car for past 5days? My initial millage before the service was 183KM. It was 72KM went I collect the car, where they go and did to my car god knows! U pergi the HQ pun dun nid 100KM termasuk testing!

I gona bawa my car to Perodua Service and Parts centre to fix this shit! I waste alot of my resources to post this.
I pray that the car will not have other serious issues eg. flying spare tyre!

SIGH...

PIC1 - The rust
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PIC2 - The rust ZOOM in..
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PIC3 - They did something to my battery. I lost all my preset radio stations after the service.
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PIC4 - The bugger placed the bar to closed to the battery cover. I cant fill the battery because the cover cant open!
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PIC8 - Radiator Pic
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post Jun 17 2012, 09:46 PM

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Teruk.. should have taken one that is before and then these are after. We should spread these like crazy until P2 does something serious for once in their life. Otherwise they seem to become another Proton after time.
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QUOTE(n8210 @ Jun 17 2012, 09:46 PM)
Teruk.. should have taken one that is before and then these are after. We should spread these like crazy until P2 does something serious for once in their life. Otherwise they seem to become another Proton after time.
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They BECAME proton ever since their successful first-gen MyVi... since then quantity is their priority, not quality...


Tomorrow I'll be sending my Alza to Rawang SC to follow up on the engine and air-cond jerking issue... If these problems are still not rectified, then I'll contemplate selling it off and resurrect my sister's old MyVi since it's been collecting dust for months...
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post Jun 18 2012, 11:49 AM

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wow! the rust looks pretty bad on the gearbox.
already so many owners had problems with alza gearbox.


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post Jun 18 2012, 12:33 PM

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Want to gather up a few uphappy customers and arrange for a press conference?
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count me in... tongue.gif
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post Jun 20 2012, 09:18 AM

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Im speechless. Dun wan to talk much about this trash.
This is my 1st P2 car and I have 2 endure the shitty quality.
I ingat P1 had lousy product and after-sales, but P2 is even worse!
n8210, count me in for the press conference. I gona tembak em!
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post Jun 20 2012, 11:23 AM

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Hi Folks,

i just got my Alza Advance Version 3 weeks ago. so far so good, not much of an issues except some rattling issues which i managed to solve on my own half a day.

i wanna say my point here, almost any new cars, new production have rattling issue, from expensive Audi to VW or even BMW or Mercedes..all have rattling issues. Just type 'Pillar B rattling' in google search and you will be show thousand of links to many car models with rattling problem especially at pillar B.

If you wish to resolve pillar B rattling noise which P2 SC cannot resolve, please let me know so we can organize a TT session and show you all how to solve it. it is easy and cost less than 20 bucks.

There are 5 areas which causes rattling sound around pillar B.


Added on June 20, 2012, 11:29 amalso i wish to add, the steering rack issue. During the first day i got my ride, i found the streering on my ride is different from the previous batch. The rusted area found in previous batch is heavily coated with chrome in my ride. Thumbs up to P2 for upgrading the steering rack coating. :-)


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Wow.

good to know someone willing to share ^^

I would like to know how to solve . interested to learn nod.gif

for my car .. i didn't notice much rattling sound for my alza now. May be hardly appear or i use to it already tongue.gif
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post Jun 20 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(tyenfei @ Jun 20 2012, 11:32 AM)
Wow.

good to know someone willing to share ^^

I would like to know how to solve . interested to learn  nod.gif

for my car .. i didn't notice much rattling sound for my alza now. May be hardly appear or i use to it already  tongue.gif
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Let me know when your ride start having rattling sound. It is just a matter of time. i sold many used cars over the years, from european, japanese and korean brand till local brand, all got rattling noise. very easy to solve.

overall for my ride RM70k, it is a good ride. just need a bit of time to eliminate the rattling noise at your own home less than half a day.

Also if SC cannot resolve your wind noise starting from 80kmj causes by the small front mirror, let me know too so i can help. it can be diy less than 50 bucks.
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QUOTE(Delloyd79 @ Jun 20 2012, 11:44 AM)
Let me know when your ride start having rattling sound. It is just a matter of time. i sold many used cars over the years, from european, japanese and korean brand till local brand, all got rattling noise. very easy to solve.

overall for my ride RM70k, it is a good ride. just need a bit of time to eliminate the rattling noise at your own home less than half a day.

Also if SC cannot resolve your wind noise starting from 80kmj causes by the small front mirror, let me know too so i can help. it can be diy less than 50 bucks.
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my ride have rattling sounds all-rounder... from that little black box at the trunk door to my internal dashboard... Do you have a solution for that...?

My driver side quarter window is a disaster when it comes to wind noise.... replaced twice, and even have the so-called weather strip install... still noisy... doh.gif

That spare tyre torpedo... you got solution...? brows.gif


no offense to you, but used car of course got rattling sound - they're USED, even my colleague's 6-month old Honda Insight which is supposedly CBU from Japan has rattling sound inside the dashboard.... but Alza is different... from day one already got rattling sound and it drives like a 10-year old Kenari... doh.gif

You have solution for that stupid rough steering feel on Alza...? My sis' 4-year-old bruised and battered MyVi still feels and drives better on the steering itself than my piece of junk which has been babysitting too often in P2 SC... shakehead.gif
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post Jun 20 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jun 20 2012, 01:02 PM)
my ride have rattling sounds all-rounder... from that little black box at the trunk door to my internal dashboard... Do you have a solution for that...?

My driver side quarter window is a disaster when it comes to wind noise.... replaced twice, and even have the so-called weather strip install... still noisy... doh.gif

That spare tyre torpedo... you got solution...? brows.gif
no offense to you, but used car of course got rattling sound - they're USED, even my colleague's 6-month old Honda Insight which is supposedly CBU from Japan has rattling sound inside the dashboard.... but Alza is different... from day one already got rattling sound and it drives like a 10-year old Kenari... doh.gif

You have solution for that stupid rough steering feel on Alza...? My sis' 4-year-old bruised and battered MyVi still feels and drives better on the steering itself than my piece of junk which has been babysitting too often in P2 SC...  shakehead.gif
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The driver side quarter window has wind noise. almost all car manufacturer with this design have wind noise. please google VW, especially Jetta, City, Vios and so on. Yes, there are solution to it. mine only produce wind noise after 120kmj which i find it normal. Old city also have this wind noise, new honda city no longer using this sort of design anymore, now they replace that window with side mirror. This apply same toward toyota wish and caldina too. VW GTI cost almost 3 times the price of our car also have this issue.

Spare tyre torpedo, i cannot take your words granted for this matter and generalize it. unless you can produce 100 same case, then we both can bring this matter to media.

About rattling, obviously you do not understand why car components rattle and causes noise. rattling do not occur on condition such as brand new or used. they rattle due to reason. and my solution is based on my own experiences when restoring used cars to almost as close to new.

Steering wheel rough? that is very subjective to individual, smooth or rough is hard to determine base on personal expectation same like wind noise. you think you have steering wheel rough issue, you can always visit Subang Jaya Service center, just behind Summit USJ.

The thing you need to learn is how to control your emotion, study the problem and identify the root of causes. After that you can DIY or send to service center and tell them your problem. i am here to help on rattling issue. Losing your cannon and blasting without solution, it is equal to Zero conversation.

Sometimes it is good to learn from Mat salleh, they dun go bark around when other failed to help them, they find time and help them self when noone else can help them.


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QUOTE(n8210 @ Jun 17 2012, 09:46 PM)
Teruk.. should have taken one that is before and then these are after. We should spread these like crazy until P2 does something serious for once in their life. Otherwise they seem to become another Proton after time.
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Hmmm really alot of complaints from Alza owners... but as far as i know... Myvi owners quite satisfied with their ride... not as much complaints hmm.gif
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Do we need to reproduce 100 spare tyre killings as well? How do we get the participants? We advertise: "Do you feel like dying today?"

Rattling, noise, etc.. won't cause death. If one day your spare tyre really do fly off, injured or killed someone, please think of the explanation and how you may convey your condolences to the victim/family.

Or we should just use the low moral way: It is --> P2's fault. I don't know anything.
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 20 2012, 04:07 PM)
Hmmm really alot of complaints from Alza owners... but as far as i know... Myvi owners quite satisfied with their ride... not as much complaints hmm.gif
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For that I concur... I have owned 3 1st-gen MyVis in my household... None gave major issues like the Alza... I can't say much about the new MyVi since I don't own one...


Added on June 20, 2012, 4:56 pm
QUOTE(Delloyd79 @ Jun 20 2012, 03:56 PM)
The driver side quarter window has wind noise. almost all car manufacturer with this design have wind noise. please google VW, especially Jetta, City, Vios and so on. Yes, there are solution to it. mine only produce wind noise after 120kmj which i find it normal. Old city also have this wind noise, new honda city no longer using this sort of design anymore, now they replace that window with side mirror. This apply same toward toyota wish and caldina too. VW GTI cost almost 3 times the price of our car also have this issue.

Spare tyre torpedo, i cannot take your words granted for this matter and generalize it. unless you can produce 100 same case, then we both can bring this matter to media.

About rattling, obviously you do not understand why car components rattle and causes noise. rattling do not occur on condition such as brand new or used. they rattle due to reason. and my solution is based on my own experiences when restoring used cars to almost as close to new.

Steering wheel rough? that is very subjective to individual, smooth or rough is hard to determine base on personal expectation same like wind noise. you think you have steering wheel rough issue, you can always visit Subang Jaya Service center, just behind Summit USJ.

The thing you need to learn is how to control your emotion, study the problem and identify the root of causes. After that you can DIY or send to service center and tell them your problem. i am here to help on rattling issue. Losing your cannon and blasting without solution, it is equal to Zero conversation.

Sometimes it is good to learn from Mat salleh, they dun go bark around when other failed to help them, they find time and help them self when noone else can help them.
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Wait until you get a problematic car that requires you to go in and out of SC while riding a ride that may jeopardized yourself, your loved ones, and even other road users, you'll learn to become like me.... and btw, you have not met mat sallehs that can go bark around when they don't get what they want... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jun 20 2012, 04:48 PM)
For that I concur... I have owned 3 1st-gen MyVis in my household... None gave major issues like the Alza... I can't say much about the new MyVi since I don't own one...


Added on June 20, 2012, 4:56 pm

Wait until you get a problematic car that requires you to go in and out of SC while riding a ride that may jeopardized yourself, your loved ones, and even other road users, you'll learn to become like me.... and btw, you have not met mat sallehs that can go bark around when they don't get what they want... tongue.gif
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hahhahahaha funny. after working for close to 20years, i learnt that my job is duly to solve problem, almost all job description in the market is about solving problem or needs. and i guess it was my job that help me to become more DIY and a problem solving person.

tyre issue, so far how many cases involving tyre fly out? 2? 3? how many alza already on the road vs tyre fly out? in any studies to make decision, any industries need statistic. i checked mine in service center while the technician applying rust prove to my underneath carriage, the rod that holding the tyre is very strong and thick. bolt and nut still tight after riding it for 3 weeks. so far so good, let see how it goes after 1 year :-).


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QUOTE(Delloyd79 @ Jun 20 2012, 05:08 PM)
hahhahahaha funny. after working for close to 20years, i learnt that my job is duly to solve problem, almost all job description in the market is about solving problem or needs. and i guess it was my job that help me to become more DIY and a problem solving person.

tyre issue, so far how many cases involving tyre fly out? 2? 3? how many alza already on the road vs tyre fly out? in any studies to make decision, any industries need statistic. i checked mine in service center while the technician applying rust prove to my underneath carriage, the rod that holding the tyre is very strong and thick. bolt and nut still tight after riding it for 3 weeks. so far so good, let see how it goes after 1 year :-).
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perhaps you've gotten a better batch after all our complaints were put to good use by P2... like you said, maybe I got myself a bloody dud... but I stand by my case... It's the worse car money can buy, and I will keep telling ppl who wanna buy Alza, DO NOT BUY PERODUA ALZA...! ENDLESS QUALITY ISSUES...! I have wasted 64k cash buying this piece of junk, and enough is enough...

btw, maybe you should work in P2, then you can apply your patience and DIY skills there and try solving all of our problems... tongue.gif

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