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 [Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V2, Car One Moment ,MPV The Next

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QUOTE(tyenfei @ Sep 4 2011, 09:11 AM)
for me i think it is not accurate if just getting info from forumers.

coz not all Alza users will get online, not all users dare to complaint or dare to give good comment, or just like to read not like to post.

this will happened to any other brand of car users also.

at least for me, this car serve its right to me .. for now lah.
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post Sep 15 2011, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(gamenoob @ Sep 15 2011, 05:34 PM)
I have owned almost all P2 car except for Rusa, Kembara, and Alza for last 15 yrs. Some bought for sister, mom, and wife.. and they have never failed me.

Wife only wanted small car for easy parking and low maint. I love the Myvi too when I go pasar malam or KL downtown where too many fender bender...

For the price, and having own many other car, you have a more realistic view on what is reasonable expectation and what not. I have seen my buddy BMW needed a new engine, GB, and what not... and constant niggling factors... ECU failure, ratting pillar, creaking seats,..... horrible ride for the family and what not...

I have always received great service and repair from P2. They even replaced my front disc on the 4th year... when I ask them to...

Given the history and ownership record, I'm sure no issue but they always lemon anyway. Heck even in Myvi forum there are plenty of whiners too...but why they still buying it... same goes with Alza...
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+1 to the BMW part. Peace of crap. And the particular BMW I've experience is a sports series... but cacat when driving and seriously lots of wear and tear. Every month something breaks down.
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post Sep 16 2011, 03:18 PM

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Wait for the EV cars, but surely they won't be 60k price lo. We all alza drivers, help one another. Those without problems, try to stand in those with problems and feel for them. And those with problems, fair enough you voice your issues here and we all try to help out, but all readers are humans, sometimes we don't like seeing others write too many bad stuff, harsh stuff about the things we like.

Cut long story short, there is no point in arguing whether the sky is dark or the sun is out. It depends on your angle. Love our brothers and sisters, write with more sensitivity in mind. Perhaps spitting out how you feel is not wrong, but others might not like your tone. So be kind to one another, writer or reader. Peace!!

If it is anybody's fault, it is the govt's fault for wanting to produce national cars and therefore imposing high taxes on foreign brands. After 20 over years, we still have no enjoy any low cost cars. So blame it on the person who started the national car project. You know who is the person?

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post Sep 17 2011, 12:23 PM

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Hey, change donuts together lar. I also want to change perhaps to cc5 or xm2, or c.drive. Have not decided yet cos budget not allow yet.
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post Sep 17 2011, 12:52 PM

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We bang the shop for a good good price
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post Sep 20 2011, 03:37 PM

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I read from some forum some members also recommend c.drive. Just that it is expensive la.


Added on September 20, 2011, 3:38 pm
QUOTE(Eithanius @ Sep 20 2011, 01:20 PM)
Went to service my MyVi in Perodua HQ Rawang this morning, I guess my Alza's famous for being problematic that some service advisors knew (and probably blacklisted) my number plate already... whistling.gif

Even surprisingly, their records shows my car absorbers were changed without me knowing nor complaining it.... I really wonder what else in my car did they changed without my knowledge... doh.gif
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Send your car to najib's office. Ask him to "fix" it or the car will fart.

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post Sep 20 2011, 04:23 PM

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Tell him la, the challenge: This is a malaysian made car, but it has problems. Can malaysia repair it or we lack real engineers that is capable of fixing this? If we dont have, then why are we still making cars?
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post Sep 25 2011, 01:46 PM

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Some say use a bigger size battery it would help and the battery will not damage so easily. I have tried this with the previous car. But now I am not sure what size can be use for Alza?
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post Sep 26 2011, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 26 2011, 08:31 AM)
Try to ask in Official Alza forum, they got many lubang there brows.gif
Ur Alza is very petrol saving, mine average only 450km nowadays, always drive like bull brows.gif
change bigger help in?  blink.gif
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I don't know much about electrical, so the terms I use here might not be correct but just to illustrate on what I learn from mechanics.

If our Alza needs 1000mAh each time we turn on the car engine, and the battery we use is just 1100mAh, then the battery lifespan will be very short. Because we have only 100mAh buffer. So if we turn on the aircon to full one day, charge something, or for whatever reasons used very close to 1100mAh, it kind of reduces the battery's lifespan.

But, if we put in a 1300mAh battery, then we hardly strain/stress the battery since we cannot reach the limit. The 300mAh buffer is more than sufficient to cover all our needs. Hence, the battery will last longer.

However, the issue is different battery capacity has different sizes. I don't know what size can fit into our Alza.


Added on September 26, 2011, 9:26 am
QUOTE(Eithanius @ Sep 26 2011, 08:40 AM)
Drive like a bull...? Your Alza very powderful meh....? Coz installed Iridium spark plugs...? brows.gif

Mine underpowered lar....  doh.gif
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Aiya, 450km is very good already la. Not yet a bull, maybe a calf. I'm the real bull. I hardly reach 400km. Just something close to 400km, maybe +/- 380km. But the thing is, only sometimes I hit until 3000rpm going uphill. Most of the time on 2000rpm only. I cannot figure out why my mileage so low.

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QUOTE(zsnipes @ Sep 27 2011, 11:02 PM)
May I know +/- 380km for RM50 ?
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What do you mean? Sorry, I don't understand the question. Because RM50 only cannot reach 380km. If possible to do that, you will immediately be the richest person in the world. Because you have discovered a breakthru. So I must have misunderstood your meaning.
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Find an enemy who loves to drink, go out with him... find something to celebrate, drink lots and lots and lots... make peace with him, and when he cannot even walk, ask him to drive to Melaka and drink again. Give him the car keys and let him wreck the whole car. Claim insurance, and then buy something else.
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No, don't drink and drive with a love one or a friend. But if you really need to drink and drive, then drive with your enemy.
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post Oct 3 2011, 08:10 AM

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Did a refill yesterday night. Here are my readings, slightly better this time.
RM66 / 405km = RM0.16/km

Mostly city drive, say 80%. This time, I let everyone over take me. Mostly 60-70kmh, sometimes top at 80km on the way from Sg Buloh to Kuala Selangor. If you find the traffic moving very slowly, hey... it probably was me in front. Hahahaha.... but that was last week. This week, back to normal driving and let's see how it goes.

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Push with 3rd gear, then down steep slope shift to 4th gear, push suicidal mode ON = 160kph!! Do it with a manual transmission for more fun.

To get 405km, I'm driving really slow. Oh, mine is auto by the way. Not enjoyable at all. RM66 / RM1.90 means I pumped 34.7 liter. So still have less than 10 liter inside. Therefore, probably best guess is with full tank I can do around 460-490km, before I get kosong inside.

Because the tangki is 42 liter, which is RM79.80 full. But to do this, I have taken the fun out of driving. Perhaps this is my long distance drive target. To achieve as close as possible to 500km with full tank... maybe drive from KL to Johor early in the morning, something like that.

So city drive, perhaps a reasonable target is 380-400km, by putting in some fun back into driving. I don't want to follow behind uncle auntie's car.
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Add me to the list:

1 Wind noise > 80km/h
= Acceptable, never expect Perodua NVH better than others
== Agree

2 Loose number plate on the rear trunk door. Rattles when close
= It was stick to the car, screwed it will be better
== Don't have noise

3 Engine noisy inside cabin > 110km/h
= Acceptable, better than proton wira
== Better than waja

4 Steering veers to the left, slightly off axis at straight road
= Alignment can be done outside to fix it. Use conventional ruler rather than computerised alignment.
== I once had a car that didn't pass puspakom 3 times, and finally a sifu in Klang, old shop, help use ruler. gaotim in 10 min and later pass puspakom's test. Computer? Throw into river la.

5 Roof noisy when rain
= For those car before 2011, you need to report it to P2, it will be better after sound proof material
== It rained this afternoon, ok mar...

6 Soft horn sound
= I got no issue, but you can change it to hella horn
== This was the first thing I wanted to do, but the cheapest quote I got was RM350, cause need add amplifier lar, no enough power wo. Betul ker?

7 Power window on driver side not smooth when in operation, jerky motion
= NIL
== NIL

8a) Gear shift, 3rd to 4th, not smooth
= NIL
== NIL

8b) Reverse gear sometimes produces sudden strong vibration on car
= NIL
== NIL

9 Low whining/whistling sound when engine is idle
= Engine characteristics, noise minimal, accepetable
== Don't have

10 Cabin light not always turned on when car doors are opened
= Door ajar sensor, front left and right, their parts got defect
== NIL

11 Rattling sound of loose part near driver seatbelts on B-pillar
= Yup, I also got
== NIL

12 Rattling sound on dashboard
= Yup, I also got, don't ask them dismantle it and assemble it back, no point cause will be the same or worst.
This caused by tooling, their original cast for dashboard not good, all using plastics, snapped in, not screwed.
You will noticed major different, especially day and night. Day more noise cause hot, night less noise cause cold.
== NIL

13 Rattling sound from rear seatbelts when going over uneven roads
= Yup, I also got
== NIL

14 Bluetooth not working
= I didn't use before, not useful for me temp.
== NIL

15 Long distance/high speed braking not smooth, car jerky. No hard braking
= Mine ok, got engine braking
== NIL

16 Dirty front rims
= Is brake pads dust, cause by original P2 LUCAS brake pads. You can change others if you don't like
== Clean them every week

17 Noisy tyres
= Acceptable, cannot compare with good one
== I must find the budget to change this, not acceptable but it is silverstone.

18 Leaking water from engine compartment and exhaust, when air-cond turned on
= I didn't notice but Where is it?
== NIL

19 Air-cond takes time to cool cabin, not cold enough
= Acceptable, my fan blower strong and I got full car tinted
== Ya, acceptable, cools down quite fast, but no one sits on the 3rd row, so my comment is until 2nd row.

20 Soft knocking/tapping sound on engine when accelerating between 1 - 1.5k rpm after driving for some distance. Noise is also present when car is stationary and engine revved at the same rpm range
= Not sure about this
== NIL

21 Air-cond knob can get stuck between "1" and "2"
= My switch working fine
== NIL

22 Rubber frame on left side front door does not fit perfectly
= Mine ok
== NIL

23 External door handles too stiff
= Mine ok
== NIL

24 Scratches on surface of car on every sides
= Cause by those f!@# who scratch my car
== No comment

25 Rattling sound from third row seat, loose board on back of seat
= A bit, sometime got sometime don't have
== Don't have

26 Stationary and speed brake pedal vibrates when front wiper is running
= NIL
== I don't even understand

27 Steering rack vibrates and noise on uneven roads, especially when turning
= Didn't notice, need to test
== Don't have

28 Front suspension noise when going over speed breakers
= Previously got, now ok
== NIL

29 Loose black cover on trunk door causing rattling sound
= Yeah, a bit, can fix DIY
== Mine is alright

31 Jerky motion during acceleration, possibly another round of gear problem
= NIL
== After service today, I kinda feel there is something wrong some where.... but the driving distance back home is short, will listen carefully when I go out later

Mine was auto premium, year 2010, mileage 30,102km, average fc = RM 0.15 / km (Esso/Petrons, light foot, tighten throttle cable already). I'm kind of understand your issues and dissatisfaction, our local parts not so reliable if compare to japanese or korean. If I'm not mistaken, this whole car was truly made in malaysia, sometime no luck really will get problematic one.
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== You should check his plate number. But wow, RM0.15. Best I ever heard. Can show a pic of your tighten throttle cable?

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4 Steering veers to the left, slightly off axis at straight road
= Alignment can be done outside to fix it. Use conventional ruler rather than computerised alignment.
== I once had a car that didn't pass puspakom 3 times, and finally a sifu in Klang, old shop, help use ruler. gaotim in 10 min and later pass puspakom's test. Computer? Throw into river la.
+++ Can recommend me the sifu...? I wanna do alignment after tukar donut...

It is near the Klang puspakom besides fed hghway. I don't r'ber which shop but sure know which one if I am there. No shop names, sorry.
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6 Soft horn sound
= I got no issue, but you can change it to hella horn
== This was the first thing I wanted to do, but the cheapest quote I got was RM350, cause need add amplifier lar, no enough power wo. Betul ker?
+++ I tukar one for RM 120... Not too loud, but better than that chicken shit Perodua horn...

Just change the horn, or did you add anything else? Any brand?

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17 Noisy tyres
= Acceptable, cannot compare with good one
== I must find the budget to change this, not acceptable but it is silverstone.
+++ So bila mau tukar donut, kita gi sama k...?

These few months very soi... earn no money. Lots going out. Imagine if someone "bom" you with wedding invitations... aduh... sakitnya.

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post Oct 10 2011, 12:17 PM

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No budget yet lar.. I think if you change donut then surely more impact. Eithanius, I PM you.
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post Oct 10 2011, 05:37 PM

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No all of us la. There is always good and bad. Paper no matter how thin will still have 2 sides.

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