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 [Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V2, Car One Moment ,MPV The Next

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Eithanius
post Sep 1 2011, 04:17 PM

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So fast V2 already..? sweat.gif
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post Sep 1 2011, 09:31 PM

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Any of you guys notice your air-cond knob encounter some resistance between level 1 and 2...?
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post Sep 2 2011, 12:01 AM

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I complained to HQ about this issue, and they say it's common on all Alza... It's like there's a step resistance when turning knob slowly from 1 to 2...
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post Sep 2 2011, 11:42 AM

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ok, time to buat hal in rawang dy...
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post Sep 2 2011, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 2 2011, 09:39 PM)
just change to ceramic nao brakepad, very kuayet, kekekeke
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as in braking time it's kuayet...?

berapa tu...? recommend shop bro... brows.gif brows.gif

nowadays I spent money rectifying Perodua's plunders more than I spent on myself... doh.gif doh.gif


Added on September 2, 2011, 10:21 pmbtw, something to add on your list of common problems on the first post:

1) gearbox issue - sudden jerk when engaging reverse gear
2) soft engine tapping noise
3) rattling sound everywhere, cheap plastic brushing metal frames
4) noisy tires
5) loose number plate on rear trunk door

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post Sep 3 2011, 02:46 PM

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Just noticed got sound coming from front suspension when going over speed breakers... Endless problems... doh.gif
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post Sep 3 2011, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Sep 3 2011, 07:35 PM)
Guys, just now this happens to me:

1. Reverse from parking lot, gear at R, press break.
2. Car stops, change from R to N. Break is still being pressed.
3. Waited a while for passenger to get in, then change from N to D4.
4. A sudden loud sound and jerk is heard. Like the gear forcefully changed from N to D4.
5. Passengers were shock, it sound so loud and jerk that all of them thought that we are hit by a car. But are no moving car in vicinity.
6. Car can move normally.

Anyone had this, or experience similar problem as this?
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Now that's the first. Car jerking forward instead of backward. Is it easily reproducible...?
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post Sep 4 2011, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(meow1803 @ Sep 4 2011, 04:08 AM)
mmm  hmm.gif very discouraging and scary reviews on the alza, i hear lotsa negatives more than positives from forumers and users.... i think ima gonna hold back on it for a little while maybe wait till next year see how, then only dare to even consider.
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QUOTE(tyenfei @ Sep 4 2011, 09:11 AM)
for me i think it is not accurate if just getting info from forumers.

coz not all Alza users will get online, not all users dare to complaint or dare to give good comment, or just like to read not like to post.

this will happened to any other brand of car users also.

at least for me, this car serve its right to me .. for now lah.
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tyenfei, it seems like you're not confident enough with this car...? don't get offended by my statement though... sweat.gif

anyhow, my conclusion stands, DO NOT BUY AN ALZA unless you have plenty of time to waste getting it stranded at Perodua SC to fix this and that, and plenty of money to fix their plunders and replace poor quality and missing parts.

My Alza has been giving me endless problems. I've already spent 4k on improving sound insulation and ride comfort (read sound insulation and ride comfort ONLY). I have to admit I'm not a DIY kinda person to do sound insulation like some of the members here, I really respect them for their efforts. But so far I'm close to achieving what I've got on this car (it means I'm gonna spend more on this guinea pig), but with 4k it can be used on something more useful. This 4k of mine is used to fix what Perodua failed to offer for an overpriced 60 grand tin can. Even a Naza Citra now going for 70 grand offers better insulation and comfort with a bigger engine capacity albeit the fuel consumption.

If you see the list of problems on the first post, my car has 80% of the issues on the list. And more coming on the way and yet to be rectified. Just look at the lousy brake pads that causes dirty rims. Perodua said it's normal, that all cars has it. Granted it's true, but is it to that extent that the rims gets charcoal black in a matter of days..? Since they offer no better solution, we poor saps have to fork out just to get better grade brake pads.

I can be sure the maintenance for this car will skyrocket once the warranty goes out. I'll be rushing to sell this piece of junk once it does, not betting on high resale value though, coz by then many people will know how lousy this car is.
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post Sep 4 2011, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 4 2011, 10:21 PM)
Eithanius, we shall thank Alza aren't we? troublesome but fun, or else it'll be a dead boring car tongue.gif
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Fun for those who has the time and skills for DIYs... Unfortunately it's not me, my type of fun is the urge to drive a quiet car for no reason, and no specific destination...
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post Sep 4 2011, 10:43 PM

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Btw, what's with the Denso Iridium Spark Plug on the first post...? sweat.gif


Added on September 4, 2011, 10:45 pm
QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 4 2011, 10:41 PM)
Exora might be your choice then, quiet brows.gif
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Too big and underpowered... tongue.gif

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post Sep 5 2011, 12:07 AM

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Curious though... I read from here that more torque can be achieve by increasing the height of the gas pedal.

Has anyone else done this minor mod before...?

I did notice my sister's myvi is so torquey that it accelerates like a 2l engine with a somewhat heightened pedal - everytime I drive her car, my foot goes AWOL after extended drive...

PS: Apologise if you guys cannot reach the link, only for registered MAOC members only... sweat.gif


Added on September 5, 2011, 12:10 am
QUOTE(satanas @ Sep 5 2011, 12:07 AM)
@wtm0325: Thank you for consolidating the common problems from this car...

my rattling sounds came from the side of the front passenger seat's door pillar sad.gif it's freaking annoying... I knw it's a hopeless battle if it is being rectified at our SC, but I will try...

by the way, our car is just less than a month...
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common problem... B-pillar rattling sound... I practically had someone from a workshop who was kinda enough to spare some Insulflex to dampened the friction between the entire length of the plastic cover and the metal frame.

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QUOTE(satanas @ Sep 5 2011, 12:19 AM)
Yes, it's a common problem sad.gif I will try to find some accessory shops that can help us... it's kinda hard to find some decent shop if your a stranger sad.gif

Thank you for the input Eithanius, I do hope that your problem with this car will be ok... I did read almost all of your posts...
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Btw, if you're the DIY type, you can get some Insulflex and dampened the B-pilar yourself... I've seen them did it, it's not so difficult actually...

At the same time you can also refer to some pics posted by wtm0325 on the previous thread, use some of the Insulflex material and fill some of the gaps that may cause rattling noises.
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post Sep 8 2011, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 8 2011, 04:14 PM)
Normal Spark Plug cost ard RM52 at P2 SC which can last for 20,000km, iridium spark plug can last for 100,000km which cost RM180 at P2 SC. Buy at LYN garage sales cost you RM155, do the maths yourself tongue.gif
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RM 155 + RM 20 for installation already RM 175... tongue.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 8 2011, 04:14 PM)
This can be done, suggest you ask foreman, but I can teach you oso if you want to  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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You kat mana, me ask you do for me... brows.gif
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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 13 2011, 03:28 PM)
hahaha very sarcastic post!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

Some of the Alza are underpower becoz the string that connects to engine (I dunno wat u guys called) are too long. It is not meant to increase the torque from the specification, but to make the car more responsive.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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so bila mau appointment...? brows.gif
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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 13 2011, 05:42 PM)
ur car underpower mei? brows.gif
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superbly underpowered after driving a 2.4 camry... brows.gif

even my sis' myvi feels more powerful... doh.gif
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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 14 2011, 02:03 PM)
Estimated 4 hours - 3.50 hour test drive from OUG to Genting 2 flow, 10 min for the mod brows.gif

Labour Charge: Genting Starbucks Hot Chocolate brows.gif
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like that have to change brake pad dy... coming down from genting either brake rosak or gear rosak again... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Sep 15 2011, 10:32 AM

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Here's an updated list of problems plaguing my car:

1 Wind sound in excess of 70kph = Problem recurs

2 Loose number plate on the rear trunk door. Rattles when close = Problem recurs

3 Engine noisy inside cabin when speed in excess of 110kph = No solution provided, sound proofing issue

4 Steering veers to the left, slightly off axis at straight road = Resolved

5 Roof noisy when rains = Resolved but not satisfactory

6 Soft horn sound = No solution provided

7 Power window on driver side not smooth when in operation, jerky motion = Resolved

8 a) Gear shift from 3rd to 4th gear not smooth = Problem recurs
b) Reverse gear sometimes produces sudden strong vibration on car = Resolved

9 Low whining/whistling sound when engine is idle = No solution provided, problem not present upon testing

10 Cabin light not always turned on when car doors are opened = Resolved

11 Rattling sound of loose part near driver seatbelts on B-pillar = Problem recurs. Fixed outside

12 Rattling sound on dashboard = Problem recurs

13 Rattling sound from rear seatbelts when going over uneven roads = Resolved

14 Bluetooth not working = Resolved

15 Long distance/high speed braking not smooth, car jerky. No hard braking = Problem recurs

16 Dirty front rims (possibly caused by low-grade brake pads) = No solution provided, lousy brake pads

17 Noisy tyres = No solution provided, supplier sucks

18 Leaking water from engine compartment and exhaust, when air-cond turned on = Resolved

19 Air-cond takes time to cool cabin, not cold enough = Not solved. Cabin still not as cool as before

20 Soft knocking/tapping sound on engine when accelerating between 1 - 1.5k rpm after driving for some distance. Noise is also present when car is stationary and engine revved at the same rpm range = Problem recurs

21 Air-cond knob can get stuck between "1" and "2" = No solution provided, common problem

22 Rubber frame on left side front door does not fit perfectly = Resolved

23 External door handles too stiff = Resolved

24 Scratches on surface of car on every sides = New problem from Service Center

25 Rattling sound from third row seat, loose board on back of seat = New problem

26 Stationary and speed brake pedal vibrates when front wiper is running = New problem

27 Steering rack vibrates and noise on uneven roads, especially when turning = New problem

28 Front suspension noise when going over speed breakers = New problem

29 Loud burst sound, kinda like farting or sneezing sound when turned on air-cond. Happens when the car strolls for about 2 minutes from a minute-long engine warm up with fan running at level 2 low cooling factor. Can feel the car vibrates with the burst sound = New problem (So far only 1 instance)


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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 15 2011, 01:27 PM)
1 - same, no time to mod yet
2 - not sure how it loose, can snap some pic?
8 - does changing other brand petrol helps? tongue.gif
12 - dashboard which side?
15 - might be rotor bengkok, u always langgar lubang?
19 - try clean cabin filter, very easy 1
20 - i think is the soundproof no good so u can hear tongue.gif
24 - P2 staff revenge brows.gif
25 - quite curious how and where it sounds?
26 - no understand?
27 - this 1 is common, no solution
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2 - loose rattling sound when closing trunk door
8 - it does not... Alza forum member say it may have something to do with tightening the pedal string... :blur:
12 - dashboard inside
15 - no wor, perodua changed rotor, still the same
19 - how...?
20 - no, that sound should not be there... something is wrong with the engine...
24 - f***ers
25 - i'll take pics
26 - put your leg on the foot brake pedal, then trigger the front wiper...
27 - bising SC again...

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QUOTE(gamenoob @ Sep 15 2011, 04:04 PM)
Eithanius,
As for all the problem listed for Alza, I say a lot of them you having wrong expectation....You will most of the problem even for 200-300k car...
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Then perhaps you can find me a car with that price range that exhibits all of my 28 problems above... brows.gif brows.gif

and I don't think a car with that price will have that problem on the very top of the list...

This is about QC issue here, don't compare with expensive cars... doh.gif


Added on September 15, 2011, 4:27 pmAs for fuel consumption, I get 12.65km/L average...

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QUOTE(gamenoob @ Sep 15 2011, 04:30 PM)
BTW, does the Alza come with a DVD/GPS system? Some months ago, I remember they have this little detachable GPS cum reverse camera on the driver side glovebox which I find a bit silly. I rather have something like the Mvyi version..

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I can find many expensive car that have more than 28 problems you listed... some are a lot more serious than your 28. Some of the issue you highlight is childish....wind noise, roof noise from rain, dirty front wheels, ac not cold enough, tyre noise,....

You have a choice...if you hate it so much, just go to consumer tribunal and ask for a refund and replacement since you seem have so intune on what wrong with your alza...

or top up and get another car...
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Childish....?

Hello...!!! these are common problems lar dude.... I'm not the only one complaining... And it's my rights to complain, don't just come here and tell me what I can or cannot do with this thread... vmad.gif vmad.gif

If you don't like what I complain, then buzz off... mad.gif

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